1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: This is jam Nation with oh. He spoke on the 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: show to Trevor Long yesterday tech expert about the implications 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: of what the medibank scam means and or no banking 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: information has been released, but your medical information has been released. 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: And Todd Woodbridge came out yesterday and said he thought 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: something was sus because he's been filled in call after 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: call from an unknown number on Tuesday. He obviously put 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: all this together that this is what had happened, that 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: the hackers, well, he was asked from this number. He 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: didn't answer his phone to this unknown number. Then they 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: started to text him asking him to pay outstanding medical bills. 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: They knew the hospital he'd been in, they knew he'd 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: had a hospital stay, and said, you have some outstanding bills, 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: give us a call to pay up. I had this 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: scenario recently when I had a colonoscopy and I got 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: asked to pay a certain bill on the day. I 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: can't remember which bits I've paid to have and somebody 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: pay up front, some you pay afterwards. So I had 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: to phone up to verify all that I would have 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: been scammed like this, I'm sure thinking, oh sorry everyone, 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: I forgot to pay. 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: That bit, it's a cautionary tail. 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so the message said he had bills to pay. 24 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: They knew the hospital he had been in, they knew 25 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: the procedure he'd had. This is a very obvious example 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: of how this stuff can bite you on the bump. 27 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: That wasn't the procedure he was having. By the way, 28 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: be prepared for this kind of. 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: Scam, and what it means is the companies that deal 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: in text form. So I had a text from Lavity 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: Pathology saying that I had the money for some pathology, 32 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: and I went, no, I'm not paying that. So it 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 2: went on for ages. They kept sending him once a month, 34 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: I go, and then it was actually pathology. You know, 35 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: it was for blood tests, a blood test because someone 36 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: suggested we drink each other's blood. 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: Oh of course yes, but we had to have blood test. 38 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had to have blood and so I had 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: to pay for the pathology for that. But what I'm 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: saying to these companies, if you're going to deal with 41 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: your clients online, you know through texts and stuff, you'll 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: be prepared that you're not going to get paid because 43 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: the only way the scammers get the money is if 44 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: you come to the party and pay them. So don't 45 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: pay a ransom, don't know, and don't pay anything on 46 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: the phone. If the common word banks ends your text, 47 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: don't You can presume that everything is a scam. 48 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: But what if lavity then do they have all these 49 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: outstanding bills from people? How do they get paid? 50 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: Although they're just going to have to work that out, 51 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: that's their problem. But every man for himself. 52 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: They were saying on the news last night that this 53 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: kind of information being leaked has implications for marriages, for jobs, 54 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff in private medical information. So for example, 55 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: you're an employer and you have to choose between three 56 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: people to hire for a job. If you get information 57 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: that one of those people is having ongoing cancer treatment. 58 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: This is just an example, and you think, oh, they've 59 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: got any time off work, they're going to blah blah blah. 60 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: They may not be well knowing that information that someone 61 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: has tried with absolute their right to keep private. Just 62 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: wonder how this stuff's going to be used. As Trevor 63 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: said on our show yesterday, let's all just agree to 64 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: be kind to each other because we're all in the 65 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: same boat, our private information getting out there.