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Speaker 1: Judio with us.

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Speaker 2: Matt Cunningham from Sky News, Good morning, Matting.

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Speaker 1: We've got the Minister for Health.

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Speaker 2: He's also the Minister for Essential Services and various other portfolios.

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Speaker 2: Steve Edgington, good morning, Good morning Katie, and good morning

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Speaker 2: to all the listeners. And Selena Hubo, the leader of

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Speaker 2: the Opposition. Did you have to swim here?

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Speaker 1: Selena?

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Speaker 3: I was very like a good morning, Katie.

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Speaker 4: I left Catherine yesterday morning nine meters at the bridge

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Speaker 4: and it's significantly gone up last night. So thinking of

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Speaker 4: everyone in Catherine and particularly in my electorates. Some of

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Speaker 4: the communities have been cut off, so thinking of them.

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Speaker 4: I've been madly texting a few people this morning, so

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Speaker 4: very many.

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Speaker 1: So just on that.

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Speaker 2: We are obviously keeping a really close eye on the

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Speaker 2: Catherine River, various other waterways in Catherine, I understand as well.

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Speaker 2: You know around the region will Beswick, for example, are

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Speaker 2: they having flooding issues at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're in Lola flooding this morning.

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Speaker 4: The o latest update I had as LO called Member

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Speaker 4: Katie was that the lower subdivision of Wiggler or best

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Speaker 4: with other people know the name, are people are being

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Speaker 4: moved to the top subdivision which is out of the

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Speaker 4: the flood level. That also includes the council office and

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Speaker 4: the clinic Katie, so they've got to move all the medicines.

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Speaker 4: They get some support of course with the emergency management team,

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Speaker 4: which is fantastic. The school becomes a bit of an

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Speaker 4: evacuation center for anyone from the lower sub that needs

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Speaker 4: to move to the top sub. The childcare center, the

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Speaker 4: age care center.

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Speaker 3: They're all in the flooding regions.

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Speaker 4: So thinking of the people that willgler today and particularly

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Speaker 4: all of those emergency responders who are supporting people to

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Speaker 4: make sure that they're safe.

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Speaker 2: Steve, what's the word from the government. I would assume

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Speaker 2: that you're keeping a pretty close eye on various different

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Speaker 2: areas at the moment. You know, no talk of evacuation

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Speaker 2: from many communities, but even the Daily was looking like

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Speaker 2: they're getting some more rain.

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Speaker 5: Well certainly, yeah, my understanding is that the Daily is

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Speaker 5: coming up again. But as Selena said, you know, the

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Speaker 5: river's up in Catherine Beswick certainly underwatch at the moment

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Speaker 5: as well. So what we have particularly in the big

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Speaker 5: rivers now, you know, we saw it all in the

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Speaker 5: Central Australia, but certainly the watch area appears to be

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Speaker 5: in the Big Rivers area at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, when we're talking about Catherine and the amount

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Speaker 2: of rain that they are currently receiving, it's a discussion

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Speaker 2: that we'd had earlier in the week as well about

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Speaker 2: the Barkley region. The rain radar in Catherine not currently working.

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Speaker 2: People are really pretty furious about this at the moment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie and I had a rain gauge that links

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Speaker 4: to one of the rivers and creeks in my electorate

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Speaker 4: as well. I wrote to the Minister responsible two months ago.

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Speaker 4: Well actually it was back in November. It took two

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Speaker 4: months together a response. So you know, these are things

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Speaker 4: that particularly in the wet season, but when we're seeing

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Speaker 4: some of these extra phenomenons in the in the wet

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Speaker 4: with the extra rain, it's really important people like to

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Speaker 4: be well informed, and particularly those who are on properties

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Speaker 4: and stations, they really know what the triggers are when

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Speaker 4: they need to move their cat on livestock, when people

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Speaker 4: need to move from one subdivision to another subdivision in

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Speaker 4: a community. The rain gages really provide that insight and

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Speaker 4: that early information to be as best planned as possible

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Speaker 4: for emergency services and our community members and our pastoralists.

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Speaker 4: So it's really important that we have working measures and

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Speaker 4: that the materials are there to be able to make

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Speaker 4: those quick decisions and supported decisions.

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Speaker 2: Look, one of our friends of the show, Mary Anne,

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Speaker 2: had been in contact with us earlier in the week,

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Speaker 2: and just like on obviously the Catherine rain radar not working.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully they can sort that out soon, But on Tenant

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Speaker 2: and the Barklay, she had said that one family that

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Speaker 2: she's friends with had their home flooded four times in

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Speaker 2: four weeks. She said, you know, obviously having a rain

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Speaker 2: radar is not going to stop that flooding, but they'd

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Speaker 2: at least have some warning and maybe be able to

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Speaker 2: prepare better. I mean, we spoke about this earlier in

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Speaker 2: the week, Steve. It's a bit of a joke.

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Speaker 5: Really, Katie. This is a critical infrastructure and people are furious.

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Speaker 5: In the Barkley ten years people have been waiting. It

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Speaker 5: was decommissioned by the federal government back in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 5: Here we are twenty twenty six, so we're approaching eleven

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Speaker 5: years without the radar. But the points that you raise

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Speaker 5: are particularly relevant because what the radar will give is

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Speaker 5: real time information, and yes there are events, but it

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Speaker 5: gives you the opportunity if you can see where that's,

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Speaker 5: where the lower is, where the rain is, where the windows,

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Speaker 5: you can start preparing and be prepared for when that

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Speaker 5: water hits you. But at the moment, pastor US, Aboriginal

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Speaker 5: real time information, which is creating frustration anger amongst people

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Speaker 5: because ten years is far too long to be waiting.

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Speaker 1: For this way too long.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty wild matte like we're in. I know,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Northern Territory is vast. We've obviously got

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Speaker 2: plenty of you know, different different places that are more

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Speaker 2: a bit of an eye on what's going on, particularly

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Speaker 2: if you're trying to transport stock or anything else, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: He saw from the Cattleman's Association, you know, they raise

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Speaker 6: this just over a week ago. And I know whether

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Speaker 6: you saw those pitches from our cattle station and the

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Speaker 6: people there where they were just like ruins piled out

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Speaker 6: like an island and really no real time information about

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Speaker 6: what was going on. And you know, I don't think

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Speaker 6: that would be allowed to happen anywhere else in the country. No,

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Speaker 6: I don't know what sort of answers you've been getting,

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Speaker 6: Steve about why nothing's been done about that, but you know,

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Speaker 6: it just does seem absolutely absurd and ridiculous. And if

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Speaker 5: Look. I spoke to Amber Driver on the phone just

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Speaker 5: yesterday evening and it's the biggest flood event that they've

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Speaker 5: seen in four generations out there at el Kedra. But again,

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Speaker 5: you know the feedback from people living in those areas

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Speaker 5: that they're just furious that that information isn't available. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 5: we do see rain events, we see flooding, we see

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Speaker 5: all of those things. But at the critical point when

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Speaker 5: you want to know where that's, where that low is,

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Speaker 5: it's just not there. And as we said, ten years

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Speaker 5: to be waiting for a weather radar, there's nowhere else

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Speaker 2: Exactly is holding it up? I know we spoke about

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Speaker 5: Well, there was two things. Firstly, it was put into

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Speaker 5: federal government to install the radar, have it built, and

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Speaker 5: there was two point five million operational money from the

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Speaker 5: Anti government committed. What we've seen is yes, there was

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Speaker 5: the COVID period as well, so there were some delays.

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Speaker 5: These weather radars aren't just built here in Australia. They're

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Speaker 5: built overseas. They have to you know, they're very technical

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Speaker 5: MI understanding is that it's now been sitting somewhere for

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Speaker 5: around about two years until some of the land issues

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Speaker 2: That has to be sorted sooner rather than later. This

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Speaker 2: is something that is impacting you know, various different people.

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Speaker 1: Look, we'll talk more about the weather.

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Speaker 2: We're certainly going to be heading down to Catherine after

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock this morning and finding out exactly what's going.

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Speaker 1: On in the area. So we're talking about that text.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, a local business has had a flooded or rain

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Speaker 4: I hope everyone's safe and looking after each other, but

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Speaker 4: they've just literally got that text now from all bugs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we're friends.

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Speaker 1: Well look, I hope that everybody is okay.

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Speaker 2: We will head down to Catherine after ten o'clock this

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Speaker 2: morning and talk more about it. Now, I just want

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Speaker 1: Those petrol prices.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is something we've spoken about a bit throughout

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Speaker 2: the week and something that's really annoyed a lot of

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Speaker 1: But I do just want to give people a bit

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Speaker 2: It comes to the terminal gate price today in Darwin,

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Speaker 2: we were sitting at a dollar sixty six yesterday for

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Speaker 6: this is the consequence of what's going on in the

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Speaker 6: interesting seeing the politicians sort of, you know, get all

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Speaker 6: I've seen this game before. I mean, what haven't we

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Speaker 6: What we see in you know, crisis like this is

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Speaker 6: that you know, our politicians don't really have a lot

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Speaker 6: There are ways that they could have greater control. And

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Speaker 6: it was interesting this week, Katie. You know, Santos Man

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Speaker 6: what it's showing is the need for us to really

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Speaker 6: you know, he was saying, you know, we've kind of

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Speaker 6: relative stability when it comes to world peace. But we're

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Speaker 6: heading into sort of more trying times and you're seeing

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Speaker 6: this week the impact of that. And so, you know,

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Speaker 6: he was making the point, and I think it's a

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Speaker 6: good one that we really need to develop our own

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Speaker 6: energy resources and make sure we have more resilience on

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Speaker 6: an energy front, so that when these sort of things happen,

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Speaker 6: these crises overseas that are beyond our control, that we

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Speaker 6: have a little bit more control locally over these sort

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Speaker 6: of price spots.

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Speaker 1: Like, to me, that is such a logical thing to do.

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Speaker 6: I won't play very well in the nightcliff By election

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Speaker 6: at all.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't suspect, but definitely, you know a point that

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Speaker 2: is so so logical, think in the sense that if

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Speaker 2: you can be self sufficient, gee, it makes life a

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Speaker 2: lot easier for us here in the Northern Territory, and

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Speaker 2: we've got all everything we need to be self sufficient,

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Speaker 2: but we're.

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Speaker 3: Just not there.

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Speaker 5: It hasn't been a consideration. My fuel in Tea is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and advertising it on his Facebook the other day.

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Speaker 2: We had Adam Giles up end of the Pineapple. Adam

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Speaker 2: Giles told us then we had what are gonna tell us?

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Speaker 1: He was going to he was winning.

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Speaker 6: Hard launched that fuel.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's good for people, to be honest.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, shout out, but that that always.

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Speaker 1: Make it a bit cheaper.

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Speaker 5: And that's what we say is you know, if you've

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Speaker 5: keep doing that. But be mindful that what we're hearing

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's take a really quick break.

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Speaker 2: There so much on the agenda this week. Very keen

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Speaker 1: Us joined as well.

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Speaker 2: We've got a great line up this morning, Matt Cunningham,

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Speaker 1: It's going to be an interesting race.

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Speaker 2: What's your tip, Matt Cunningham, You live in the electrics.

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Speaker 6: Harder to break, could go to one of three ways,

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Speaker 6: Look, look, the CLP won't win. I'm pretty comfortable saying that.

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Speaker 6: I agree, probably a three way race. I don't look,

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Speaker 6: I think the preferences, I think the preferences are kind

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Speaker 6: So you know it's going to come down to preferences.

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Speaker 6: It's a really weird by election, and Nightcliff, where I leave,

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know there's an old saying another one.

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Speaker 6: You know, a politician will promise you a bridge even

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Speaker 6: just all campaigning on what they're going to stop, what

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Speaker 6: going to ban fracking, stop middle arm, save lead point,

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Speaker 6: I could give you a list as long as my

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Speaker 6: But I don't see anyone proposing this.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that bizarre.

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Speaker 2: Look, we the main thing that gets brought up with us,

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Speaker 2: Can the candidates please explain to us how they're going

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: It was real.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was that bit of just that sort

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Speaker 2: That's a real concerned It is a worry. I think

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Speaker 2: people to realize that pretty much everybody's preferenced Phil Scott

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Speaker 1: I did actually ask ed, I.

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Speaker 2: Think one of the most important questions that people want

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Speaker 4: Yes, I love that and Electric officers, as we know,

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Speaker 3: Know connection, which other was great.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, Katie, we think you know, our labour team's

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Speaker 4: really focused on supporting ed Smell. He's a great candidate,

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Speaker 4: be tight. We're absolutely not taking any vote for granted.

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Speaker 4: Our labor team knows that we're trying to regain the

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Speaker 4: continue to support ed right up until six pm on

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Speaker 3: We think he will be.

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Speaker 4: A fantastic advocate for the three suburbs in the Nightcliff electorate,

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Speaker 4: So looking forward to continuing to support him that it

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Speaker 2: Steve, I mean, what do you think, do you think's

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Speaker 5: I think he is. But you know there's a whole

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Speaker 5: John's been here for ten years. He's a lawyer, his

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Speaker 5: can see, the COLP has been focused on crime right

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Speaker 5: from the very outset. Labour has a problem here because

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Speaker 5: we know that over the eight years that they were

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Speaker 5: in government there was very little focus on crime. So

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Speaker 5: what people are talking about on the doors at the

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Speaker 5: moment is certainly they're concerned about crime. What we can

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Speaker 5: do is offer somebody a seat at the table. So

447
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Speaker 5: by winning that by election, an John will be part

448
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Speaker 5: of the COLP team. We're focused on reducing crime, rebuilding

449
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Speaker 5: the economy and restoring our lifestyle. So aar John's been

450
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Speaker 5: out there, he's been talking to people on the doors.

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Speaker 5: We're hearing exactly the same as what Matt said. Crime

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Speaker 5: is an issue. COLP are the ones that can tackle.

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Speaker 3: That head okaty. This is the big difference.

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Speaker 4: Like the colper in government, they have the ability to

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Speaker 4: offer some tangible commitments to the people of Nightcliff.

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Speaker 3: The voter is in Nightcliff for this by election.

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Speaker 4: They haven't come out and done that, so I think

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Speaker 4: it is an opportunity that they have lost. They have

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Speaker 4: the edge, they have the budget, They are able to

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Speaker 4: promise things that they should be able to deliver as

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Speaker 4: a government. They haven't done this with airje one, so

462
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Speaker 4: it really begs the question are they serious about it?

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Speaker 5: We're already We're already delivering across Darwen and Palmerston. Katie

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Speaker 5: will continue to do that.

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Speaker 3: What we.

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Speaker 5: Know, what we're hearing is it and Matt really I've

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Speaker 5: said there's been no strong commitments from Labor what we're

468
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Speaker 5: doing is getting on with the job. We're delivering every

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Speaker 5: day of the week.

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Speaker 6: To be fair, there've been none from the CLP, who

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Speaker 6: are the party of government. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 6: why the CLP. I mean, I just think they're kind

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Speaker 6: of running dead. But I think if they wanted to

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Speaker 6: win it, I'd go out and say, all right, I'm

475
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Speaker 6: going to you know, I'm going to redevelop the sporting

476
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Speaker 6: precinct at Nightcliff High School, which is which is like

477
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Speaker 6: like something that is desperately needed. You know, you've got

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Speaker 6: the kids over.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the CLP want to win it. I

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Speaker 2: don't think they need another another candidate. I think they

481
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Speaker 2: need another one. I think they're quite happy with their

482
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Speaker 2: what is it twenty members I'm.

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Speaker 1: Going to call it. I think they.

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Speaker 2: Well seventeen Yep, they've they've gone. Do you know what,

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Speaker 2: We'll put somebody in. We'll give We'll give it a crack.

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Speaker 2: You know, we don't want to look like we're not trying,

487
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Speaker 2: but we don't genuinely think we're going to.

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Speaker 5: We look, the CLP hasn't held the seat for a

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Speaker 5: long time. What we do have is a strong candon.

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Speaker 5: We're out there on the doors. We're supported by a good,

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Speaker 5: strong team doing the work in Nightcliff. And look, a

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Speaker 5: lot of the votes have probably already been cast as

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Speaker 5: we speak, large number. What we'll see tomorrow is the

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Speaker 5: final voters there. There will be a last opportunity to

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Speaker 5: talk to our members as they go into the polling booth.

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Speaker 5: We'll do that. We'll share our positive story around crime,

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Speaker 5: rebuilding the economy, and restoring our lifestyle, and that's what

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Speaker 5: people will hear.

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Speaker 1: On the booth tomorrow, just very quickly.

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Speaker 2: One of the interesting things that Agent had said on

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Speaker 2: the show yesterday was that he would like to push

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Speaker 2: for the Nightcliff police station to actually be used and

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Speaker 2: I thought, well, hang on a sec. The COLP government's

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Speaker 2: already in Like, if we were able to use it

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Speaker 2: in a different way, that is something that should be

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Speaker 2: happening now, you know, if it was something that the

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Speaker 2: government was truly sort of focused on. I know that

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Speaker 2: there are police in there, but if we're going to

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Speaker 2: use it in a different way, it shouldn't actually matter

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Speaker 2: whether there's a seal P person in the seat in

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Speaker 2: Nightcliff or whether it's somebody else. It should quite literally

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Speaker 2: come down to a safety you know, a safety issue.

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Speaker 2: But my understanding as well, and that correct me if

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong that the police have always like it's an

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Speaker 2: operational police decision as to who's based there at the

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Speaker 2: Nightcliff Police Station. Is the line that we've been given

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Speaker 2: in the past.

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Speaker 6: Well that's the line we've been given. And a Chief

519
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Speaker 6: Minister's line is that it's a glorified office block, which

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Speaker 6: it is, right, I mean, you know, converted back, converted

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Speaker 6: into a bowling alley and hand it back to the

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Speaker 6: people who used to own the bloody planet. Like it's

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Speaker 6: the greatest misuse of public funds. You know, you could

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Speaker 6: imagine to have it sitting there, this massive police station

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Speaker 6: in the middle of an area that has had some

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Speaker 6: pretty horrific crimes occur, and it doesn't have any frontline

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Speaker 6: police you know.

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Speaker 5: But it just highlights, you know, Labour's mismanagement of the

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Speaker 5: budget building a police station that was open between eight

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Speaker 5: and four. There's been many, many other exams. We've got

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Speaker 5: a shadeless structure on Kavanagh Street. The COLP is focused

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Speaker 5: and I encourage everybody to get to the polling boost

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Speaker 5: and vote for around.

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Speaker 3: Jim Well Katie.

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Speaker 4: I was just going to say, you know, Steve's in government,

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Speaker 4: Celp's in government. Leef Andokieria is the police Minister. She's

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Speaker 4: also our chief minister. Of course, she has the power

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Speaker 4: to be able to direct some of that operation Tho's focus,

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Speaker 4: and she hasn't. She walked away from Nightcliff, she walked

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Speaker 4: away from the station, something that she criticized a lot

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Speaker 4: in opposition, and I acknowledged Labor could have done better,

542
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Speaker 4: but she had the power to do it. She still does,

543
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Speaker 4: and she just fobs it off and says, no, actually,

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Speaker 4: I've got nothing to do here.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's up to the police itself.

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Speaker 4: But she wanted that police station changed operationally, she would

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Speaker 4: fight for it, and she hasn't.

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Speaker 1: Or right, we will move.

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Speaker 2: Along because one of the other things that we've discussed

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Speaker 2: quite a bit this week is well the Administrator joined

551
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Speaker 2: us on the show for the first time. David Connolly

552
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Speaker 2: was in the studio on Monday morning. It was an

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Speaker 2: interesting interview, I think, to say the least. He said

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Speaker 2: that his store is open to his opponents to discuss

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Speaker 2: how the office of the Administrat could help to tone

556
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Speaker 2: down blokey sort of talk. That's a little bit clumsy.

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Speaker 1: He said.

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Speaker 2: It's now a matter for them whether they wish to

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Speaker 2: speak to him or not, but they'll find that. I

560
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Speaker 2: understand that this office is bigger than the person, and

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Speaker 2: it's always been about bringing territorians together. I've had a

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Speaker 2: few people say to me it sort of felt like

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Speaker 2: it was a case of I'm sorry, not sorry. Throughout

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Speaker 2: that interview, Selena, you and I spoke about this a

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Speaker 2: little bit earlier in the week. You said, you know,

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Speaker 2: you sort of said, well, he's gonna have to get

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Speaker 2: stuck into the job now, and the actions will speak

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Speaker 2: louder than words.

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Speaker 4: I suppose, yeah, Katie, and I think that most people

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Speaker 4: see that a supposed apology forty eight hours before the

571
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Speaker 4: swearing in was too little, too late, And I think

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Speaker 4: there's still a lot of people that have been hurt

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Speaker 4: by this appointment still do not understand Katie. While Leafanokiaro

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Speaker 4: has pushed for this anti administrator to be sworn in,

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Speaker 4: I think there has been enough concerns raised across the

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Speaker 4: community about the importance of the role the unity it

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Speaker 4: should bring, regardless of politics, and we haven't seen that

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Speaker 4: in this appointment. I think Matt did a really interesting

579
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Speaker 4: editorial a couple of weeks ago, which I agree with Matt.

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Speaker 4: I think your observations were spot on. This is a

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Speaker 4: chance to bring the community together that've absolutely missed the ball,

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Speaker 4: and I almost feel like it's been a deliberate move

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Speaker 4: by Lefanokiarra and her team to divide the community because

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Speaker 4: unfortunately that reflects the politics that we're seeing from the

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Speaker 4: anti government today.

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Speaker 2: Did you support the appointment of David Connolly as our

587
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Speaker 2: next administrator?

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Speaker 5: Well, the issue of the administrator, as we've had, there's

589
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Speaker 5: been a range of issues leading up to his appointment,

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Speaker 5: but all of the social media posts, but the fact

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Speaker 5: is he is the administrator. He's came out and he's

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Speaker 5: made that apology and moving forward. He has spoken here

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Speaker 5: on radio and he said that he wants to get

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Speaker 5: out and he wants to work with the people, and

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Speaker 5: he wants to meet with the people that have obviously

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Speaker 5: had concerns about that appointment. So I think what we're

597
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Speaker 5: hearing at the moment is an administrator that is willing

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Speaker 5: to work with the people. He's clearly apologized for any

599
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Speaker 5: past in discretion around social media post and I think

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Speaker 5: what we need to do is how do we move

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Speaker 5: forward the administrator is keen to move forward. He's keen

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Speaker 5: to bring people together, and that's what he's committed to doing.

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Speaker 5: So the question we need, what we need to do

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Speaker 5: is get behind the administrator now, because he's there for

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Speaker 5: the next three years. He's been supported by the federal

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Speaker 5: government and he was sworn in by the Governor General

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Speaker 5: just last week.

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Speaker 6: The question that Steve was whether you supported the appointment.

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Speaker 5: Yes, everybody supported the appointment in the seal. Do you

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Speaker 5: think people in your electric support the appointment. Well, there's

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Speaker 5: been no feedback at all from anyone in my electric

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Speaker 5: regarding the appointment.

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Speaker 3: In a couple of weeks, I'll be talking to Steve

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Speaker 3: on his behalf.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think talking to constituents is fine, but what

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Speaker 5: I want to say is that nobody has contacted me

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Speaker 5: directly from my electorate to say, hey, that's the.

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Speaker 2: Wrong appoint have been an unnecessary loss of skin though

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Speaker 2: like politically, do you know what I mean? Like you

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Speaker 2: sort of go the appointment of an administrator shouldn't really

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Speaker 2: be a point of discussion like it has.

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Speaker 6: The last few necessary loss of skin, particularly for someone

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Speaker 6: in an electorate that takes in many Aboriginal communities. And

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Speaker 6: is held by a very slim margin. I mean, are

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Speaker 6: you worried about the potential that you could lose your

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Speaker 6: seat over this?

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Speaker 5: And then look, I'm the person on the ground where

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Speaker 5: the government there is a separation between the government and

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Speaker 5: the administrator. The government of the day is out doing

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Speaker 5: the work on the ground. They're the ones that control

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Speaker 5: the budget, how the budget is spent. So when I

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Speaker 5: get on the ground and talk to people in my electorate,

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Speaker 5: what we're talking about is the issues that affect people

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Speaker 5: on the ground today and how we're responding to those

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Speaker 5: issues and the electric But what I will just say

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Speaker 5: once more is it nobody directly from my electorate has

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Speaker 5: contacted me and said, hey, you've made the wrong decision,

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Speaker 5: but moving forward, the administrator has made an apology and

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Speaker 5: what he wants to do is work with everybody across

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Speaker 5: the board. So I think it's time to move forward.

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Speaker 1: Okatie.

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Speaker 4: Watching this unfold, it's quite fascinating. Originally, Leafanokia, as the

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Speaker 4: chief minister responsible for the selection and the appointment, said oh,

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Speaker 4: I wasn't aware. I wasn't made aware of these posts,

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Speaker 4: and then later on we're here, Oh actually, yeah, there

646
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Speaker 4: were some Bill Yen on your show a couple of

647
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Speaker 4: weeks ago, said, oh yeah, came to cabinet. We were

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Speaker 4: kind of made aware of some not all, but some

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Speaker 4: of the posts. So someone's not telling the truth. And

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Speaker 4: it sounds like the back you know, backstepping and moving

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Speaker 4: away from accountability for this decision that Leah has made.

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Speaker 4: That she's made her whole team try and stand up

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Speaker 4: against sorry, stand up and support and made some very

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Speaker 4: you know, some people very uncomfortable within her own party

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Speaker 4: and supporters. The r P people have reached out to

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Speaker 4: me and some of my team to say they've been

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Speaker 4: unhappy about this appointment. And so it has been interesting

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Speaker 4: to see it unfold that there was a dismissal of

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Speaker 4: knowing anything at first, and then it was sort of

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Speaker 4: changed to oh yeah, yeah, but we'll you know, we

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Speaker 4: would do it again, and then it sort of changed,

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Speaker 4: oh well, now he's in, let's just give him a go. So,

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Speaker 4: you know, when is it a point of accountability and

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Speaker 4: whose accountability is this? This is Leafinocchio's decision as the

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Speaker 4: chief Minister, and it is hers to own.

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Speaker 3: She's not owning it.

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Speaker 2: Look, we are going to have to take a really

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Speaker 2: quick break. You are listening to Mix ONEO four point nine.

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Speaker 2: It is the week that was. If you've just joined us,

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Speaker 2: well you've been missing out because in the studio with

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Speaker 2: us today we have got Selina Hubo, the opposition leader.

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Speaker 1: We've got Matt Cunningham.

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Speaker 2: From Sky News, and we have of course got Steve Edgington,

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Speaker 2: who's the Minister for Health and Public Housing, various other portfolios. Now, look,

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Speaker 2: one of the stories that really got people pretty annoyed

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Speaker 2: earlier in the week was when we found out that

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Speaker 2: Air Asia had begun informing passengers that it was going

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Speaker 2: to scrap it's Darwin DEMPASA and Darwin KL services from

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Speaker 2: April twenty seven, leaving Quantus and Jetstar the primary providers

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Speaker 2: of regional air services for the foreseeable future. Now. Air

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Speaker 2: Asia obviously released a formal statement then on Tuesday, but

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Speaker 2: social media showed that the airline had begun sort of

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Speaker 2: contacting those passengers. Well, Kathleen was one of those passengers.

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Speaker 2: It was content acted my producer they'd begun contacting them

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Speaker 2: on Monday. People furious about this. You know, I think

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Speaker 2: that we all agree that you're like to be able

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Speaker 2: to fly the one place that you can generally fly

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Speaker 2: for a fairly reasonable amount, is BALI not many? You know,

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Speaker 2: people are people are annoyed. We spoke to the Minister

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Speaker 2: for Asian Relations and Trade, Robin Carl earlier in the week.

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Speaker 2: She seemed pissed off as well, to be pretty blunt

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Speaker 2: about it, but also very annoyed that you know that

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Speaker 2: we have this what's the incentive call when we're trying

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Speaker 2: to get the airlines to come and operate. Yes, so

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Speaker 2: she had said that she's now asked the department to

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Speaker 2: review that and basically, you know, if we are going

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Speaker 2: to offer that scheme to different airlines that they have

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Speaker 2: to be operational for a certain period of time before

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Speaker 2: they're able to pull out. Now we don't know exactly

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Speaker 2: how much they were entitled to. She said that that

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Speaker 2: was commercial in confidence. I mean, we're still talking about

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Speaker 2: taxpayers dollars here, though none of us have any idea

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Speaker 2: how much it could be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, I'd love to know from Steve and his

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Speaker 4: team when they found out, because we found out secondhand,

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Speaker 4: similar to many other people, once they were starting to

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Speaker 4: get those text messages and the next morning it came out.

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Speaker 4: But how long did the cop know because they obviously

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Speaker 4: have a deal with the company, and why didn't they

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Speaker 4: front foot and tell territorians what was happening.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think Katie, you know obviously we're extremely angry

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Speaker 5: and disappointed with this decision by Air Asia. You know,

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Speaker 5: when it comes to territory attraction, what we want to

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Speaker 5: see is airlines here and we want to ensure that

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Speaker 5: there's sufficient routes and a number of routes available for people.

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Speaker 5: We want to see choice for our all territories when

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Speaker 5: it comes to travel, and I think that's important. That's

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Speaker 5: the work that we're doing. But when it comes to

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Speaker 5: Air Asia, what I can say is that we are

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Speaker 5: extremely disappointed because Steve Well, I think the issue around

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Speaker 5: whether we who knew that's a matter for the minister.

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Speaker 5: I don't have that information. It certainly doesn't come under

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Speaker 5: my portfoit. I don't have that information here at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Surely, as ministers, I don't have.

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Speaker 5: That information here. That's a question for the relevant minister.

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Speaker 5: But what I do want to say is that yes,

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Speaker 5: we are disappointed, and you know, when we support airlines

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Speaker 5: to do the job, we want some certainty and some

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Speaker 5: security around. Seeing them pull out is extremely disappointing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it.

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Speaker 2: Just adds to the ongoing winch that all of us

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Speaker 2: have about how much it costs to fly anywhere from

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Speaker 2: the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 1: And you know that when it comes to.

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Speaker 2: Choice, that's a huge you know, it has a huge impact.

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Speaker 2: If you've got other airlines that are flying to various

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Speaker 2: differ different destinations, it makes a big difference in terms

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Speaker 2: of trying to bring those prices down. You know, when

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Speaker 2: you talk earlier about petrol prices. One of the other

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Speaker 2: things that we constantly get annoyed about when you live

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Speaker 2: in the end is trying to fly anywhere.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and look, the long term solution, Katie is, you know,

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Speaker 6: economic development and population growth, because we see these airlines

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Speaker 6: come and go, and for as long as we're foring

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Speaker 6: them financial incentives to come for a fixed period of time,

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Speaker 6: they'll come for that fixed period of time and then

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Speaker 6: they will leave. You know, you know, the glory days

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Speaker 6: of aviation. You know, during my time here was during

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Speaker 6: you know, the lead up to and during the Impacts boom,

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Speaker 6: when our population was growing at such a rate that

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Speaker 6: airlines wanted to fly here because it was profitable because

752
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Speaker 6: their planes were full coming in and out Tiger ten

753
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Speaker 6: bucks to Melbourne. You know it was great. Now if

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Speaker 6: you get it for under five hundred, you're pretty happy,

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Speaker 6: so you know, it is it is a real It's

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Speaker 6: one of the biggest you know, deterrens to living in

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Speaker 6: this place. And I mean, you know, paradoxically it's one

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Speaker 6: of the issues with attracting people to live here is

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Speaker 6: the cost of airfas. But then you need to attract

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Speaker 6: more people to live here to bring the cost of

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Speaker 6: those airfares down. So you know, it's a difficult one.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I honestly, I don't really know what

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Speaker 6: the solution is, but the solutions to create lots of

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Speaker 6: well paying jobs here so people come.

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Speaker 4: And live here and then very disappointed obviously, and particularly

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Speaker 4: for those customers who will miss out, because it is

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Speaker 4: important for local territories to be able to travel in

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Speaker 4: and other territory, for people to come, for visitors to come,

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Speaker 4: for our economy to grow and boost due to tourism,

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Speaker 4: and also those internal flights around Northern Territory.

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Speaker 3: I think is so important.

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Speaker 4: People are suffering some a significant high costs when you're

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Speaker 4: just traveling, you know, an hour and twenty minutes within

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Speaker 4: the territory on a commercial line.

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Speaker 3: It's really really tough.

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Speaker 4: So I think that this particular decision, and while it

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Speaker 4: might have been a commercial decision, unfortunately the COLP you know,

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Speaker 4: they're great, they are out there for photo opportunities when

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Speaker 4: things are going well, but where were they when this faulted?

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Speaker 4: And I think that you know, being able to stand

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Speaker 4: up in front and tell territories what's going on, understanding

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Speaker 4: there may be some you know, confidentiality around the commercial

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Speaker 4: and confidence agreement, but being able to let people know,

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Speaker 4: so they're not starting to find out via text message

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Speaker 4: from the airline that they're you know, their travel their

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00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 4: plan travel has now been cut and they don't have

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Speaker 4: another way to get to where they're going. So I

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Speaker 4: think it's been the biggest disappointment. There is a federal

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Speaker 4: inquiry into airfares across the country.

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Speaker 3: I've written a submission to that.

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Speaker 4: Katie on behalf of our labor team to really encourage

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Speaker 4: the committee to come to the Northern Territory, not just

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Speaker 4: to Darwin, but to other parts of the NT to

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Speaker 4: hear directly from territorians, our businesses, our workers, and some

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Speaker 4: of our FIFO community members who are coming in and out,

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Speaker 4: but not necessarily here and as Matt said, attracting workers'

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Speaker 4: long term to set routes here in the territory. I

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Speaker 4: think it's really important. I hope that the committee does

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Speaker 4: come to the NT.

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Speaker 5: But what I would say, Katie is certainly air Asia

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Speaker 5: has committed to refunding airfares, and what I would say

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Speaker 5: is that our government is certainly working with the airline

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Speaker 5: and Body.

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Speaker 1: High trying to mitigate. Then you're not going.

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Speaker 5: Trying to mitigate, trying to mitigate the impact on customers.

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Speaker 5: But on a more positive note, I suppose Dilly Is

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Speaker 5: announced that they'll be running the Dah and Dilly service

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Speaker 5: twice per week, commencing on the twenty fourth of May.

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Speaker 5: So that's some good news for.

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Speaker 1: Territories, some good news.

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Speaker 6: Good joint Dilly worth a visit, is it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Now, just before we do get ready to wrap up,

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Speaker 2: I do actually want to just head across to something

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Speaker 2: that's been pretty pretty heavy. I think you'd have to

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Speaker 2: say throughout this week, Matt, I know that you've been

816
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Speaker 2: keeping a close eye on the inquiry into the controversial

817
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Speaker 2: health patient record system, Akasha. Now we are due to

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Speaker 2: catch up with john's Orbis, the AMA's Northern Territory President,

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Speaker 2: this morning as well after ten o'clock. But tell us

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Speaker 2: a little bit about what you've heard throughout this week.

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Speaker 6: Well, well, John Zorbis gave a thirty minute presentation to

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Speaker 6: the inquiry the committee on Tuesday. That was the most

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Speaker 6: devastating thing I have ever listened to, I think in

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Speaker 6: the Northern Territory like that. We went for about two

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Speaker 6: hours on Tuesday afternoon and we heard from john's Orbis.

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Speaker 6: We'd heard from the executives of the Health Department the

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Speaker 6: week before, who had actually described AKEASHA as a resounding success.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that is one of the most extraordinary statements

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Speaker 6: I've ever heard. You heard another executive say that there

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Speaker 6: were no issues when it came to patient risk associated

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Speaker 6: with a KASHA. He just basically came out and called

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Speaker 6: bull dust on what we had been told by executives.

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Speaker 6: He said that there are hundreds of tickets at the

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Speaker 6: moment associated with bugs in that Acacia system and with

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Speaker 6: patient risk from Acacia. He also said that the way

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Speaker 6: that risk is assessed in our hospitals is at a

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Speaker 6: lower level. Serious incidents written off at a lower level.

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Speaker 6: In Northern territory hospitals to what they are inter state

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Speaker 6: and that is perhaps why they're saying there's no risk.

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Speaker 6: We heard that a kasha has cost three hundred and

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Speaker 6: thirty five million dollars so far and it's lucky if

842
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Speaker 6: it's one third implemented. It is an absolute disaster. And

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Speaker 6: then after we heard from John Zorbers, we heard from

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Speaker 6: contractors who'd worked for DCDD who are saying it's not

845
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Speaker 6: a kasha that's the problem. It's not the system itself,

846
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Speaker 6: it's the toxic work environment within DCDD that has led

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Speaker 6: to this absolute debarcle a work environment where people, anyone

848
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Speaker 6: who raised issues, who raised concerns about things that were

849
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Speaker 6: going wrong, were basically frozen out. They were labeled trouble makers.

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Speaker 6: In some cases they were just marched out the door

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Speaker 6: because they're contractors and they can be. And then of

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00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 6: course we know the tragic story of Sean Joyce and

853
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Speaker 6: his sister Kara, you know, really bravely gave evidence to

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Speaker 6: that inquiry on Tuesday as well, and she didn't mince

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Speaker 6: her words. She attributes her brother's death to that toxic

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Speaker 6: work environment. I mean, it is an absolute scandal what

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Speaker 6: has happened here and amid that scandal, you have the

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Speaker 6: chief executive of nt Health two weeks ago, at that

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Speaker 6: same inquiry describe a Kasha as a resounding success.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Steve, how can can it be?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: Look, look, what we do know is that this all

863
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Speaker 5: started under Labor. It was badly mismanaged right from the start.

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Speaker 5: But when it comes to the role out of Acacia,

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Speaker 5: at the moment, Akasha is operating in Alice Springs, Tenant Creek,

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Speaker 5: Catherine Darwin and Nullen Boys and Palmeston, I should say

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Speaker 5: what we have seen since coming to government is another

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Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy enhancements of the Acacia system. But

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Speaker 5: looking back on what these issues around the Labor roll out,

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Speaker 5: we did see a number of problems. We've heard about

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Speaker 5: the risk and the reason why it's stopped back in

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Speaker 5: February twenty twenty four, but the budget blowout of sixty

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Speaker 5: one million dollars, the increase from two fifty nine to

874
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Speaker 5: three twenty. What I can say is that what we

875
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 5: have done since then is worked and worked and worked

876
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 5: to get Acacia as best as we can at the moment.

877
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 5: There are further enhancements to come, but what we have

878
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 5: done at the moment is a further one hundred and

879
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 5: seventy enhancements of the Acacia system and it is operating.

880
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 6: It's only a third implemented. One third was the evidence.

881
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 6: So how much is it going to cost for the

882
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 6: extra next two thirds to be implemented. Well, we don't

883
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 6: have that cost at the moment, about six d billion.

884
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 6: We don't have the full cost at the moment. What

885
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 6: we are doing is rolling out those enhancements at the

886
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 6: moment within budget. There's been a one hundred and seventy

887
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 6: different enhancements since coming to government, and what we do

888
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 6: have is online at the moment and it's operating in

889
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 6: all of the hospitals here. The legacy systems that it's

890
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 6: intended to replace, though, are they still operating and what's

891
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 6: the cost of continuing them going?

892
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 5: The legacy systems around Chasis for example, I was down

893
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 5: in Allo Springs when they switched on Akasha I think

894
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 5: late last year. I was down there for the switchover.

895
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 5: Kasis was switched off as a Casha came on line.

896
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 5: So the actual Acacia system is what's being used in

897
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 5: hospitals as we speak.

898
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 6: What about the extra burden? I mean, you heard John

899
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 6: Zilbers say that. He said, they're a frontline staff who

900
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Speaker 6: have literally worked in war zones, who have been reduced

901
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 6: to tears by this system. What's your response to that, like,

902
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 6: what's being done to fix that? That's that's just well.

903
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 5: What I want to do is sit down with John's

904
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Speaker 5: Orbis and have that discussion because a lot of these

905
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Speaker 5: issues were during the initial role out of the system.

906
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: It's an emergency now they're there now.

907
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 5: And it's operating at the moment, So ACACIA is operating

908
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 5: in every hospital in the Northern Territory.

909
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 6: What I do want to do and it's.

910
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 5: As fully functional, but as I said, we're working on that.

911
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 5: We've put in in place at one hundred and seventy

912
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 5: enhancements so far. There is more work to be done

913
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 5: with ACACIA and that's what look, that's what we've been

914
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 5: left with coming into government, that's what labor has left us.

915
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Speaker 5: We're doing the best that we can with the system

916
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Speaker 5: that we've got. We are working to improve the system constantly.

917
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Speaker 5: And when it comes to John's Orbis, I rang him yesterday.

918
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Speaker 5: We've exchanged mystic calls, but I will be catching up

919
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Speaker 5: with John to.

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Speaker 2: Get a better under he's going to be with us

921
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Speaker 2: and so we'll definitely talk more about that. We are

922
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Speaker 2: going to have to take a really quick break. I'm

923
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Speaker 2: really sorry, Selena. We'll take a really quick break just

924
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Speaker 2: because we are fast running out of time. You are

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Speaker 2: listening to Mix one O four ninees three sixty. It

926
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Speaker 2: is the week that was. You are listening to Mix

927
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Speaker 2: one O four nine's three sixty. That's about it for

928
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Speaker 2: us this morning. It's been a massive morning. Big thank

929
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Speaker 2: you to Matt Cunningham, thanks so much for your time today.

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00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: Thanks Katie and Steve Edgington.

931
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: Minister for Health than various other portfolios, thank you for

932
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: your time today.

933
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Speaker 5: Thanks Katie, and just want to put a shout out

934
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Speaker 5: to all those and Catherine take care. All the warnings

935
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Speaker 5: are out there at the moment, so stay safe and

936
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Speaker 5: obviously keep away from the floodaball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do take care.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk more about that and Selena, you both thank

939
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Speaker 2: you so much for your time.

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Speaker 1: The Opposition leader