1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Growing up in the Australian country town of Aubrey, Sally 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Goldsworthy always had a love for any sport she could 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: get her hands on. In fact, it was soccer that 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: she had fallen in love with from a young age, 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: but after moving to the city when she was just fifteen, 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: she associated burnout with soccer and lost her passion for 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: the game. But it was moving back to Aubrey that 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: helped her rEFInd her love for Ossie Rules. She was 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: the GWS Giants' first draft pick in twenty twenty two 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: and capped off her twenty twenty three season as the 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Giant's youngest ever club champion. That same year, at just 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: eighteen years old, she. 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: Picked up the League's Rising Star Award. My name's Sophie 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: and I'm the producer here at the Female Athlete Project. 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: Zali is now rounding out her third year of AFLW 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: and is making her presence known across the park. This 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: chat proves that if you have that passion and drive 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: and you don't need a backup plan, we hope you 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: enjoy it. 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: Darly Goldsworthy, Welcome to the Female Athlete Project. Thanks for 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: having me does It's great to be I actually just 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: forgot which podcast I was introducing you, just because we 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: also host the Giants podcast together, close rival of the 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: Tefat podcast, The Giants Podcast a close second, very close 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: second with our mate Alicia Eva. So we're going to 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: do that today as well to podcasts in a day. 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how we're going to go the content. 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: I better have some good content. You said a high 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: bar with your expectations of the content. Oh gosh, before 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 3: this podcast, I was looking you up on Wikipedia just 31 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: to check there wasn't anything about you that you haven't 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: told me any hidden secrets. How do you feel about 33 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: your Wikipedia page? 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 4: Ah, I don't really know. 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 5: It's a bit interesting that, Yes, someone's gone out of 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 5: their way to put that all together. I don't know 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 5: how they've found it all, but yeah, a bit of 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 5: a weird one. 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: Because we've got a fair bit like it's got a 40 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: lot about like your junior teams, who you played for 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: different sports. I didn't know about the cricket. We're going 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: to talk about soccer, the football, but I didn't know 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: a lot about the cricket. 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, dabbled a little bit of cricket. 45 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: Yeah really, I. 46 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 5: Just dabbled in ale bit of everything. Like being a 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 5: country kid. I feel like most weekends were four or 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 5: more sports. 49 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: That's a solid effort. 50 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, like netball, cricket, soccer, footy was everything. 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: What were you like? Can you describe Zari as a 52 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: little kid? 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: Oh, Nayli's little kid. 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 5: Was had a big ego and was a little troublemaker. 55 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: I think I had trouble with authority, didn't like being 56 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 5: told what to do as per and yeah, I don't know. 57 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 4: Just pretty energetic, crazy. 58 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 5: I loved hanging that with the boys, so as you 59 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 5: can imagine, got up to some reality business. 60 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: And what was sport like for you at home? Like 61 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 3: being a country kid, what was your access to sport bike? 62 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 5: Oh, it was pretty good, Like any sport you could 63 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 5: think of you could play in Aubrey. I guess to 64 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 5: go to the elite levels, you probably had to start 65 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 5: moving to the cities, which was pretty hard because there 66 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 5: wasn't probably a great pathway to the country kids. But yeah, 67 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 5: I did that a couple of years ago, moved to 68 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 5: Sydney and yeah, and then moved back home. 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: We tried about this the other day. What ye were 70 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: you in when you moved to Sydney? 71 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 4: I was in in nine and ten, so twenty nineteen, 72 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. 73 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: And you got pretty homesick when you moved here. 74 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was extremely homesick. 75 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 5: And it was a huge culture shock coming from like 76 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 5: Aubrey and then moving to the big city school. Like 77 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 5: I was in a private school all my life, Kinderda 78 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 5: year eight, it would have been, had black best friends 79 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 5: for eight years. And then yeah, I just moved to Westfields, 80 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 5: which I think had like two thousand kids in year 81 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 5: seven or twelve. And yeah, like I've gone from living 82 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 5: ten minutes down the road to living an hour away 83 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 5: and catching buses and trains and waking up at six 84 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 5: in the morning every day and not getting home till 85 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: the summer's down. 86 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, it was pretty crazy. 87 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 3: That's a lot for a young teenager to be doing that. 88 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was just it was a huge culture shop, 89 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 5: like going from yeah, just having training ten minutes down 90 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 5: the road, having family ten minutes down the road, black 91 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 5: family barbecuse, family dinners were huge, and I was having 92 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 5: them like all the time. They're just yeah, seeing family 93 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 5: maybe like once every five weeks if that. 94 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: Wow. 95 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 5: And yeah, and like just living with my sister, the 96 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 5: being in a rowdy house, a lot of white noise 97 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 5: in the background, which I think that, Yeah, you don't 98 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 5: appreciate how much it's how much you love it until 99 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 5: it's gone. Like just hearing the dogs bark here and 100 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 5: dad dinner, Yeah, Dad's TV. 101 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 4: Like fighting with the TV. Yeah, just little stuff like that, 102 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 4: I think is what you missed once you're moved out. 103 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, gets a bit, gets a bit quiet, and sometimes 104 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 5: you don't like to quiet. 105 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: You. You've got a pretty great family and you've got 106 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: some good characters in your family. Can you touch on 107 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: your relationship with your parents. 108 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I'm extremely close to them. My mum. I 109 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: call her Jodi because he's honestly like my best friend. 110 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: Like it's not really a mother taughter relationship. 111 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 5: She's just another friend and anyone who meets her knows 112 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 5: why that is. Like she is in all of my 113 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 5: friend groups. Everyone always asked me to bring Jody, bring 114 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 5: Jody along when she comes to see loves it. He 115 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 5: loves here for that, and whereas my dad's kind of 116 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 5: like the complete opposite, like he doesn't like to He's 117 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 5: kind of like was that parent at the I don't 118 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: know kids' games, but he would sit on the other side, 119 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 5: and he didn't want to. 120 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: Talk about anyway. 121 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: The crowd. 122 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, so like you just see all the crowd in 123 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 5: one bunch in the stadium and then there'd be some 124 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 5: man on the other side of the field just by himself. 125 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 5: But yeah, extremely close to them. 126 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and how have they impacted your sporting journey a lot? 127 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 5: I think that looking back on it now as a 128 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 5: youngster growing up, you don't appreciate what they were doing 129 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 5: at the time. And they gave them the opportunity to move 130 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 5: to Sydney and sacrificed a lot. Like I know my 131 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 5: mom she missed having me in the house and she 132 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 5: still does. She whenever I go home. It's honestly, like 133 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 5: she says that the bomb's got off, like. 134 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: But she loves it. 135 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 5: I bring my broom box, my speaker in the town 136 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 5: and we do karaokey together, we dance together. And I 137 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 5: guess like just their influence of me has been pretty big. 138 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's look at your junior sport years. Yep, young matildas. 139 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: You I want to clarify because this is you get 140 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: not you're not happy about this. It's often a reference 141 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: made that you're part of the young Matildas. But you 142 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: went to a camp. 143 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 5: I went to that, correct, Yeah, I went to one 144 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 5: camp and that and in a couple of like prial games. 145 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 4: That was about it. 146 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: But she liked you'd like to say the record straight 147 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: that you weren't part of officially part of the young 148 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: I never. 149 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 5: Played a games for Dailey, Like, I don't know where 150 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 5: this has come from, but everyone just keeps saying, yeah, 151 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 5: next young Matilda, and I think. 152 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: People it's like the media like jumping onto those things. Okay, 153 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: but so you didn't You didn't play a game, but 154 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: you've got to be pretty good to go to a 155 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: camp regardless where the where the soccer, soccer, football love start? 156 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 5: Uh? Soccer started? Like that was just my first sport. 157 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: I would have been about four and just never looked 158 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 5: back since then. Like I did gala days, played for 159 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 5: my local club, absolutely loved it, did all the state teams, 160 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 5: anything I could. 161 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: I was doing soccer. 162 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: And then how did you get to the point of 163 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: did you have to choose between footy and soccer? 164 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? So when I was in Sydney, I think that 165 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 5: just having that Yeah, as I said, culture shock, we 166 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 5: were like I was training four times a week in 167 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 5: Aubrey to something ridiculous like twelve times a week in Sydney, 168 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 5: and yeah, it's just a kid. It's not probably something 169 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 5: you're thinking about then and it's probably not a priority. 170 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 5: But then yeah, I don't know, like I just I 171 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 5: got burnt out and I went through a period of 172 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: I just hated the sport, Like I just hated soccer. 173 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 5: And it was completely like it's not you, it's me. 174 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 5: Like it wasn't like anything was happening that made me 175 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 5: hate it. It was just purely it was me, Like 176 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 5: I just I got so sick of it that Yeah, 177 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 5: when I was the option to come home to Aubrey 178 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 5: and start doing footy, it was a no brainer in 179 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 5: the end. 180 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah right, And then what was it quite refreshing coming 181 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: home and playing footy? 182 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 4: Oh it was so hurting. 183 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 5: Like I still did soccer, but I just did it socially, 184 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 5: like with my friends and like for the local club 185 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: I played up for, grow it up with playing with 186 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 5: and yeah, I don't know, it was just it was 187 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 5: so nice to be able to have a pathway in 188 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 5: a sport I could also do from home and h 189 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 5: and I was completing year eleven and twelve at that stage, 190 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 5: and I was still I was really thought that school 191 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 5: was the be all and end all and. 192 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: Who are you? I know, I know, so I'm going back. 193 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 5: I was like, I'm really going to focus on school 194 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 5: and I'm going to like it's really important. 195 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: No. 196 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: I was like I missed that part of the story. 197 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 5: Yeah no, as soon as as soon as footy came 198 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 5: into the picture, like like I could actually get drafted. 199 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 4: It was fact, that was it. 200 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: Okay. 201 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: I never looked back and never really gave school a chance. 202 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 4: I was like, who is I know? I know the 203 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: last like. 204 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 5: Eight months of school, I reckon I wasn't even there, 205 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 5: Like I was in Sydney or I was in Melbourne, 206 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 5: I was doing state games or training with the giants, 207 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 5: Like yeah, so I probably didn't give it a great run. 208 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 5: And in the end, like I was kind of one 209 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 5: of those kids that again doesn't like being told to 210 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 5: do so doing HC. I was like, I don't need 211 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 5: a test to tell me how while I went in school. 212 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: You're like, I know, I'm good. 213 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, And then I was like I didn't even open 214 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 5: my ATR results like to that extent. 215 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: I was like, wait, so you still don't know, still 216 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: don't know, you've got no idea. 217 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: How I got no idea. 218 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: I respect that. I how did you even have the 219 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: self control to not look? 220 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 5: It? 221 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: Just never worried me. 222 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 5: And also at the time, I was getting my tonsils out, 223 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 5: so I was in the hospital and couldn't actually open 224 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 5: it because there was no service, but I just did. 225 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 5: It wasn't a priority and it still hasn't been. I've 226 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 5: never looked back. 227 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: Fair enough, lucky you're good at footy. 228 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: I know lucky I am that. Who knows how it 229 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: would have gone gone a UNI or anything like. 230 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: Gosh, okay, So did you always know I was going 231 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: to be the Giants when you're like, okay, I'm going 232 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: to get drafted? Was it always going to be the Giants? 233 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely? Okay, I remember it was always going to. 234 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 5: Be a Victorian team, like and if I came to 235 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 5: Sydney was going to the Swans? 236 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 4: I wow, yeah, the Giant. It was never the Giants. 237 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 5: I did academy with them and it would have been 238 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 5: one of the first years they did academy and it 239 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 5: just it just it wasn't it kind of in. 240 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 241 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 5: I don't really know how to explain it, but it 242 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 5: just wasn't really a great academy at that age because 243 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 5: it was only new Yeah, and. 244 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 4: I just I didn't enjoy it. I think their trainings 245 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: were in Wargar. 246 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 5: And there was about four girls rocking up, so wow, 247 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 5: it was kind of useless, right, and so I just 248 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 5: I don't know why. I just thought, no, well, I 249 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 5: did the Giants thing and I didn't like it. And 250 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 5: then I was chatting to all the Melbourne clubs. I 251 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 5: was ninety century. I was going to Melbourne. And it 252 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 5: also told me that whatever you say in the media 253 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 5: off the record is always on the record. 254 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: Did that happen to you? 255 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, So an article came out saying that she's gone 256 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 5: to Victoria and I was like, oh, I said that 257 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 5: off the record, and I was a bit nervous because 258 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 5: I was like, I still haven't spoken of the Swans yet, 259 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 5: Like what are they going to think? 260 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:53,359 Speaker 3: Wow? 261 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I was, yeah, I was in a bit 262 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 5: of disarray. And then yeah, I was chatting to all 263 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 5: the Melbourne clubs. I think my first interview was with Hawthorne. 264 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 5: I was so excited. I was over the moon. They 265 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 5: were coming into the competition. When I and my draft years, 266 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 5: I thought like, this is fate meant meant to be. 267 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 5: And then I just I didn't connect with any of 268 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 5: the Melbourne clubs, like it was a bit more of 269 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 5: a transactional relationship. 270 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: And I guess it just showed me. 271 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 5: That sport is a business and it showed me that 272 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 5: side of it, and I was kind of like, oh, well, 273 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 5: like coming from the country where relationships are so important, yes, 274 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 5: I guess I was only really taking the Giants interview 275 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 5: as a courtesy to. 276 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: Tick a box yea in the future. 277 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 5: And then when I was just in the interview, they 278 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 5: kind of just told me everything I wanted to hear, 279 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 5: like we're going to play here. You'd be a realized 280 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 5: that to the team. They kind of promised me a 281 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 5: couple of things and they've delivered. And yeah, and just 282 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 5: as a seventeen year old to be wanted was so 283 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 5: nice that stage because I was, yeah, as I said, 284 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 5: doing interviews with Moment clubs, they were kind of like, 285 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 5: why should we pick you with. 286 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 4: We're interviewing what makes you so special? Type thing? 287 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 3: Interesting. 288 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, So it was a bit like they were playing 289 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 5: hard to get and I was kind of like, I 290 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 5: thought that was the norm. And then as soon as 291 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 5: I met the Giants, and they were kind of like, 292 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 5: let me know, we want you. 293 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, yes, okay, that's nice to hear. 294 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: Yes, isn't it interesting when they when someone sees your 295 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: value and recognizes it, rather like playing a game with you, 296 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: because you would know you're like I know that I'm 297 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: a good footballer and I know I'm going to be 298 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: an asset. 299 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 5: Well yeah, and it's just like, as I said to 300 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 5: as a seventeen year old, to be wanted instead of 301 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 5: like like I had a club come to our house 302 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 5: all of ten minutes and say, we're not going to 303 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 5: have the picks to get you. So I'm just kind 304 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 5: of here to tick a box. Warn your strengths, what 305 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 5: are your weaknesses? Yep, we agree. We also think you're 306 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 5: not good at XYZ see you later. 307 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: Are you joking? 308 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 4: No, So it was kind of and I just thought 309 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: that that was the norm. 310 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 5: And yeah, as soon as I met the Giants, I 311 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 5: was like, no, like they yeah, they want me and 312 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 5: they show a lot of value in me, and yeah, 313 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 5: I've never looked back Stims, it's crazy. 314 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been. You've been a very very good addition. 315 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: Before we get to your time at the Giants, can 316 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: you touch on why Hawthorne would have felt like fate 317 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: before you had that interview. 318 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just a huge Hawks fan growing up. 319 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 5: Like Hawks were was the be all and end all 320 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 5: for me as a youngster. Watching them when their three 321 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 5: Grand Finals was like some of the best years of 322 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: my life, Like honestly just being a little kids and 323 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 5: waking up on Grand Final day it was better than Christmas, 324 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 5: Like it was so cool and I was like the 325 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 5: ultimate fan and the ultimate like it's are loser, like 326 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 5: you lost. I was in tears, Like it could just 327 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 5: be a home and away game and I was in tears. 328 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 5: The family knew, like not to come near me, like 329 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 5: obviously they'd try and stir me up. 330 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. They were just a huge part of 331 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: my life. 332 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 5: And like I wouldn't be playing footy if it wasn't 333 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 5: for their success. 334 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: Wow. 335 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. 336 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 5: But I used to like just be such a nerd 337 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 5: and know like you could say twenty twelve round eight 338 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 5: and I'd know who we played, what the score was. 339 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: Do you still know that or back in the day 340 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: you did. 341 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 4: I'd only know like certain games. 342 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 5: Okay, so don't test, like I don't do it. 343 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: It's something that I don't like to say because I 344 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 4: know people like. 345 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, yeah, it's like when you say you're a 346 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: singer and everyone's like sing for me. 347 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 4: Felt out Seleen, Selene. 348 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: It's got to be Selene, got to be Sally Amazing. Okay, 349 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: so you end up at the Giants. Can you tell 350 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: us about a practice match where you hurt your shoulder 351 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: in your first year twenty twenty two. 352 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is a bit of a night mare, 353 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 5: like just keeps on coming. 354 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 355 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 5: No. So I was playing out it with Noble and 356 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 5: we're playing the Doggies. I think I just kick goal 357 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 5: and I was going in for a smother and one 358 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 5: of our players kind of like hip bump me in 359 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 5: the shoulder, and first it kind of like heard a bit. 360 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 5: I came off, and then it just slowly started to 361 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 5: hurt more and more and I couldn't move my arm, 362 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 5: and I remember I was like starting to get a 363 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 5: bit teary because I was thinking like, oh, I've never 364 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 5: really had an injury like this before. 365 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty serious. 366 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: Yea, as did we. 367 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, as did everyone else. 368 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 5: And then I was in like getting an ultrasound and 369 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 5: I had Nick Bar next to me, and I was 370 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 5: trying to be like tough and holding the tears, and 371 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 5: you know, they offered me some pain meds and I 372 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 5: was like no, no, no, I'm okay. 373 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: I'm okay. And then they walked out of the room 374 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: and bars. He was like, whenever they offer you pain. 375 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: Meds, she's experienced in that area. Yeah. So I took 376 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: the pain meds and was off my rocker, off your 377 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: absolute rocker, wheeled in a wheelchairs so bad. 378 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 5: Like I was on the phone to my family because 379 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 5: they weren't at the game, and I was telling him 380 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 5: I was fine in New York like all that. I 381 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 5: was kept saying to all, like the coaching staff, how 382 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 5: much I want a KFC? 383 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 4: Oh gosh. 384 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 385 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: And then we while we were. 386 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 5: There in the airport, the port boys were walking off 387 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 5: and Oli Wines was there, and you know, I was 388 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 5: kind of trying to wave him down and get a 389 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 5: photo and all the videos are like, no, stop, please. 390 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: Stop me, stop for a photo. Didn't he Yeah, he stopped. 391 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 4: I've got a photo of olliwin. 392 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 5: It's pretty iconic of me drugged out on a wheel 393 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 5: chair in a sling in a sling. 394 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 4: Oh gosh. 395 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 5: And then we got to Sydney, and I just remember 396 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 5: it kind of started to like wear off, and I 397 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 5: like had to sleep or something. 398 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 4: I woke up and one of the coaches. 399 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 5: Brought in front of gas scene and he's got like 400 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 5: I got you g FC, like he's the he's your 401 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 5: burger or something, and I just remember I felt so 402 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 5: sy I was like, get it out. 403 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: You didn't even eat yours. I didn't even eat my cache. 404 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: And I know, I know around, I know, like especially 405 00:17:59,520 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: from a coach. 406 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, go I love that. 407 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 5: And then and then yeah, and then I had to 408 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 5: stay in Sydney for a couple of days with some 409 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 5: of the girls, and I felt so bad because I 410 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 5: knew that they all had work and like Cambo. 411 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 4: She took a couple of days. 412 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 5: I think she already had the days off work, and 413 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 5: I like, you had to basically look after me, and 414 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 5: I felt so bad. And then anyway, all scans came 415 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 5: back click just some bone bruising or it was basically 416 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 5: a corky on the like the cuff. Okay, so it 417 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 5: was just a bad spot to get a corky because 418 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 5: it's any type of movement. 419 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it wasn't. It wasn't a great first impression 420 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: at the Giants. 421 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: It's quite a funny thing I reckon when you go 422 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: for a scan, because there's such a big part of 423 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: you that's like please be fine, like yes, be okay, 424 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: but then the other part of you where you're like, well, 425 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: I hope there's something so I don't look like an 426 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: absolute idiot. 427 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I. 428 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 5: Genuinely thought there was something, Like I that was the 429 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 5: worst pain I felt, and I couldn't move half my 430 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 5: body like I remember, like the girls had to kind 431 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 5: of get me into the shower and I couldn't move 432 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 5: like I was in so much pain. 433 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: And then I'm just being a cool and I think. 434 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: I think since then, you've proved yourself though to be 435 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: pretty tough. 436 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 4: Well I hope so. I mean, I know that the 437 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 4: girls like show videos. 438 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 5: Of me at training, like getting my ankle basically like 439 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 5: stomped on, and like me like limping for a couple 440 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 5: of minutes and being like so dramatic, and I was like, 441 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 5: are you serious, My ankle has just been stomped on? 442 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 5: You lucky I didn't go and get a scan or 443 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 5: go over to the physio and need to be subbed 444 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 5: out for two weeks. Are you serious and like to 445 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 5: be fair, I think like some of the other girls 446 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 5: in the team who give me a bit of casa 447 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 5: shit okay for it aren't probably the best in terms 448 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 5: of injuries anyway. 449 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 4: So I like that. 450 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 3: I like that, like little hinted, Yeah, I see what 451 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 3: you're getting out there. 452 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I think you know. 453 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so pwayed your first season, your debut. I think 454 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 3: round three in the derby, Yes, I am. 455 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 5: Right, missing two weeks anyway with Lucky Yeah, I know, yes, 456 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 5: I missed those two weeks. And then yeah, first game 457 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 5: was the derby at the SCD kicked two yep, kicked 458 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 5: two goals four or something with Pollin out in the fall, 459 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 5: I think as well. 460 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: There was a pretty good goal celebration in that though. 461 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 462 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just it was almost like again, like 463 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 5: it was like fate that I'd missed probably two or 464 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 5: three before then, and I think they were at the 465 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 5: other end. 466 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: So to kick that goal, my. 467 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 5: Family was like probably twenty meters away, not even so 468 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 5: I just ran straight to. 469 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: Them, pointed at them. 470 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 5: Thought I was on cloud nine. I ran away from 471 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 5: all my teammates, like everyone was like, we're trying to 472 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 5: catch you, but you just ran away, so we just went, oh, 473 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 5: we're just going back to the square. 474 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: Then. Well, so now getting around you, I think I 475 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: couldn't keep up with you. 476 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think like Barzi was there and maybe Elisha, 477 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 5: but then I mean, and also at that stage, we're 478 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 5: ten goals up, so I kind of took the sting 479 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 5: out of it a little bit. But yeah, I didn't 480 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: even think about them. 481 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 4: I was off. I was like, my family's over there. 482 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 4: I'm getting to them. 483 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: How good. I know, that's great. Yeah, your preseason before 484 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: season two, I remember sending you a text. This feels 485 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: like a lifetime ago, but I remember sending you a 486 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: text awards the back end of pre season and I 487 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: said something to you like, I reckon, you are going 488 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 3: to absolutely kill it this year. 489 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 5: Yes, I know that was That was so special because 490 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 5: I feel like we we'd never really spoken before then, 491 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 5: so I was like, oh my god, Clodelin was. 492 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: Sending me a text. 493 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 3: It's practical that off the battle. But the reason I 494 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: said that was because you actually then ended up to 495 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: go on to have a ridiculous season. You took out 496 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 3: pretty much every award at the Giants End of season Awards. 497 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 3: Gab trainer Rising Star Fearless Award, and you also were 498 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: named the AFLW Rising Star. Yeap, What on earth did 499 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: you do in that season could be that good? 500 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 4: I have no Honestly, I didn't even have the best preseason. 501 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: I thought you did, thought you were looking good. 502 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 4: I was injured for the first half. 503 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I actually think that that was like amazing 504 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 5: because it meant like, let me go on the gym, 505 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 5: which I always say that me and going to the 506 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 5: gym is like a married relationship, like we don't get 507 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 5: along at the times, sometimes bhammed and sometimes I'm like 508 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 5: I want a divorce, Like I just I'm not and 509 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 5: you can probably tell, like I'm not the strongest. 510 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 4: So I guess it just gave me six weeks. 511 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 5: To go in the gym, and I felt so different, 512 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 5: like I was like, oh my god, like I am 513 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 5: starting to finally see some results. And then I just 514 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 5: guess that I hit preseason six weeks into whenever I 515 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 5: was probably about halfway through and starting to feel it, 516 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 5: and I felt refreshed, I felt motivated, felt better than ever, 517 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 5: And yeah, I guess it kind of kickstarted what was 518 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 5: a good year. 519 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: And You've done it again multiple times this season. You're 520 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 3: the kind of player that when it looks like we're 521 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: in trouble, we need a huge momentum swhen you are 522 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: so often the person to step up and do that, 523 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 3: whether it's getting a clearance in the midfield or kicking 524 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 3: a goal in the forward line? What are you? Like? 525 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: Are you just in the zone? Like are you just flowing? 526 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: What actually happens in those moments? 527 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 5: I think it's just a bit of like I get 528 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 5: a lot of white line fever, so like, yeah, in 529 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 5: those moments, I'm probably like feman, like I'm I feel 530 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 5: like I just want to help the team as best 531 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 5: as I can. And so when and it's probably come 532 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 5: at a time where the other teams kicked a couple 533 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 5: of goals and I'm in the forward line like kind 534 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 5: of watching it from a file like getting just yea, 535 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 5: like getting a bit worked out, getting bit itchy. Like 536 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 5: so I guess me going in there is kind of 537 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 5: letting out a bit of frustration and yeah, and I 538 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 5: guess I kind of like being the person that can 539 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 5: take a step forward. And I really like being the 540 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 5: person that is kind of like helping helping girls up 541 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 5: and like come with me kind of mentality. So I 542 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 5: guess when I do that, it's kind of yeah, it's 543 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 5: a bit of frustration, but it's also like I want 544 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 5: to I want to take a step forward and I 545 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 5: want you gls to come with me kind of thing. 546 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. Yeah, how have you learned to 547 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: deal with like the pressure in the big moments, because 548 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 3: that also seems like something that you really want to 549 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 3: step into and like you thrive in those moments. 550 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that it's just about you gotta want it, 551 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 5: Like you gotta want those moments and uh, like you're 552 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 5: not going to get them right all the time, but yeah, 553 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 5: you just gotta want those moments. And I guess even 554 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 5: this year, winning all those awards, like you could probably 555 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 5: any young player, it could change them a bit. But 556 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 5: I guess like just even with yeah, like feedback, criticism, 557 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 5: I always just take it with a grain of salt, 558 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,239 Speaker 5: like and just control what you can control. Like if 559 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 5: you can't control the uncontrollables, then yeah, don't worry about it. 560 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 4: But with those moments, yeah, you just gotta you gotta 561 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 4: want them. 562 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 5: And yeah, as I said, if you don't get them right, 563 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 5: you still gotta want them, like you gotta want to 564 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 5: have the ball in your hands to take, like the 565 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 5: final kick for a goal off starrnt or something like that, 566 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 5: and if you. 567 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 4: Miss, you're still gotta want it because otherwise. 568 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 5: I feel like if you don't want it, the ball's 569 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 5: gonna find you anyway, and if you've kind of scared 570 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 5: of it or something, and if you don't step into it, 571 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 5: then it. 572 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: Could And in a bit of a negative. 573 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: Way, I want to touch on that ego piece you 574 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: talked about being a kid with ego. I feel like 575 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: you are a really good balance, Like you have this 576 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: confidence about you, but not in a way that I 577 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 3: don't like you, Like, yeah, yeah, you know. 578 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 5: What I mean. 579 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I can't stand arrogance. 580 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 5: I think that it's like anyone that is arrogant and 581 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 5: good at sport, I just can't stand them. Like I like, 582 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 5: I'm same as you. You need a level of confidence 583 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 5: and belief in your own ability. But like on the field, 584 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 5: I guess I'll play with a bit of confidence, bit 585 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 5: of flagger, but off the field, yeah, I'm probably always 586 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 5: the person that's like sarcastically putting myself. 587 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 4: Down or something like that. But yeah, I don't know. 588 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: Kind of a weird one. 589 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 3: Talk about the two way dialogue that you have with 590 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 3: the fans in the crowd. We've discussed this a few 591 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: times on the Giants podcast, and a lot of the 592 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 3: time after you've kicked a goal, there's a pretty good 593 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: component of your highlight reel that involves interacting with the 594 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 3: opposition in the crowd. 595 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 5: Yes, well, as I said, like, I've just been a 596 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 5: big footy fan since like day one, and one of 597 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 5: my favorite things to do is go to the footy 598 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 5: and yell out to the people on the field. And 599 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 5: I've just always been I love when in the men's 600 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 5: or and the women's when a player kicks a goal 601 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 5: and the crowd was given them a bit, that they 602 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 5: turn around and they just give them a bit of 603 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 5: salute or something like that. So I'm a big believer. Yeah, 604 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 5: if you're gonna talk to talk, you better be ready 605 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 5: to walk the walk. So yeah, if if they're giving 606 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 5: me a bit and I kick a goal, I'm in 607 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 5: every right to turn around and give it straight back. 608 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: I love it. Yes, it's a two way conversation we're 609 00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 4: basically having. 610 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: Yeah that, and I think it brings like a real 611 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 3: favor is a bad word, but I feel like, yea yeah, 612 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 3: brings a good amount of that to the game, because 613 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: I think like that's a whole part of like growing 614 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 3: the sport, and the whole thing about AFLW is like 615 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 3: the more characters there are and the more stories there 616 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 3: are of people like you, Like you could have been 617 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: this kid who was like going to be the Giants 618 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 3: first round draft pick, who was going to be amazing, 619 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: and you could have come and been a cookie cutter 620 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: with a boring personality. 621 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 622 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, we probably wouldn't have been friends, probably, But I 623 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: feel like what you do, like when you give it 624 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 3: back to the crowd, it's cheeky, but it's such a 625 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 3: good way, like it builds your personality in the Giants' 626 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 3: personality at the same time too. 627 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think like it's cheeky to an extent, like, yeah, 628 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 5: obviously you're not going to go over the top with 629 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 5: it and you're not going to let it like change 630 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 5: the way you play. Yes, but yeah, like in those 631 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 5: moments I always say too though, that like the thirty 632 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 5: seconds after you kick goal, like that's kind of your 633 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 5: moment to just take a breath, like, and it's kind 634 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 5: of like you can do whatever you want because no 635 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 5: one can take the goal off you, and I guess 636 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 5: it's kind of like all the hard work you're putting in, 637 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 5: it's thirty seconds to be like like, yeah, it's working. 638 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 4: Take a moment. 639 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 5: Whereas because I just don't think that you can get 640 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 5: that too much post game like yeah right, yeah, Like 641 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 5: results just don't go your way, so you're probably a 642 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 5: bit influenced by how the game went, Whereas once kick goal, 643 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 5: you've got thirty seconds to just reset and yeah, like 644 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 5: I guess, take a breather and whatnot. 645 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 3: And some people say if they do something either really 646 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: good like your goal, or they make a mistake, can 647 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: get caught in that moment, but you seem quite good 648 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: at like you'll either celebrate or get pissed off at 649 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 3: yourself and then you're onto the next Like what do 650 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: you do to move on to the next thing? 651 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 5: Well, I think they're like it's just especially afl like 652 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 5: you'll like when you make a mistake, I think you 653 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 5: think that ten thousand people are watching you, but really, 654 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 5: like when you're watching foody as a spectator, you're not 655 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 5: worried like about those things too much, like obviously unless 656 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 5: it's glaringly obvious. But a lot of those little mistakes 657 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 5: that you think you've made. You can't even notice them 658 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 5: on the broadcast or when you're rewatching the game, like 659 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 5: you will notice them, but yes, not many other people will. 660 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 5: And so I think that just switching off on those 661 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 5: moments and just like switching back on as quick as 662 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 5: you can, Like like when I think it was round three, 663 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 5: I kicked it into the girl in the mark in 664 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 5: the goal square, which was not a great moment, but like, 665 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 5: you just gotta smile, and I knew. I knew that 666 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 5: was going to get another opportunity in that game. So 667 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 5: I just thought, like I still want the ball in 668 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 5: my hands, like yeah, like you just got to want 669 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 5: those moments, got to own it, yea, And yeah, just 670 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 5: in a way like laugh it off, like that's always 671 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 5: something like inside I was like, you're a bloody idiot, 672 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 5: but like outside I was like, no, just smile it off. 673 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 5: Just yep, smiled away, don't worry about it. 674 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: It's fine, that's good. 675 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 4: And yeah, you just got to want the moment again. 676 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool. I want to talk about your Rising 677 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: Star speech acceptance. How much did you practice, because I 678 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: think you're pretty nervous. 679 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 5: I was so nervous I had like Alicia even next 680 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 5: to me at the w Awards, and she was like 681 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 5: kind of saying. 682 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 4: Like, you're a real chance. 683 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 5: Here, and I had like a couple of wines in 684 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 5: front of me and I was just like having the 685 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 5: waters and she was like, yeah, like you're a real chance. 686 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, if I can't get. 687 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 5: Up on the stage, like I'm looking around at the 688 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 5: room and like the superstars of the game, I'm like, 689 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 5: I honestly don't want the award, like, don't let me 690 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 5: get up on that stage. 691 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 4: Don't let me get up on that stage. And then 692 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 4: I won it, and I got up on the stage. 693 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 5: And you know of it well thankfully, because I can 694 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 5: I can tell when I'm nervous and I'm talking because 695 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 5: I talk really fast and my heart goes and my 696 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 5: voice goes a bit like this is so after the 697 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 5: first half of that speech is so nervous, and I 698 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 5: can tell I start to like mix up words and 699 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 5: then I get caught up on it. But then I 700 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 5: also am trying to spit out words, so it's like 701 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 5: my brain is going a million. 702 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: Miles an hour. 703 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 5: And yeah, and I guess luckily I didn't say anything 704 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 5: too stupid. 705 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 3: I reckon you nailed it. It was good. 706 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 5: Well, it's it's a bit of like that self criticism. 707 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, always yeah, always didn't love it, but yeah, 708 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 5: I mean it ticked a box. 709 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well no, I think you did good this year 710 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: with the Giants to spend rough you haven't got a 711 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: lot of wins on the board. Yeah, what's it like 712 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: when you feel like you're playing well but your team's 713 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: not getting results. It's tough. 714 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it is tough, And it's just about finding 715 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 5: the right balance because like it's always like you should 716 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 5: always be team first, and I'm always team first. Like 717 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 5: when Giants don't win, absolutely, I'm like filthy for that, 718 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 5: like whole night and I stay up at night and 719 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 5: you can't sleep and you're just thinking about all the 720 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 5: things you could have done. But I guess it's that 721 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 5: like we have a twenty four hour where it's like 722 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 5: we're gonna lose. You got twenty four hours to get 723 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 5: over it, and I think by the next day, I'm 724 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 5: always like I'm okay, Like I've had my night, I've 725 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 5: had a bad night's sleep, But don't let it impact 726 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 5: too many of the next days following, because you just 727 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 5: you got to prepare for the next game, and yeah, 728 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 5: I guess it's also just finding that balance that you like, 729 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 5: don't you don't want to get yourself down if you're 730 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 5: playing well, but also if like there's been a couple 731 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 5: of games this year I had a sinker, but the 732 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 5: team's gone well, and I was like, like, that's so 733 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 5: fine too, Like you also don't want to be like 734 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 5: just so individualized, Like you just kind of got to 735 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 5: be what the team needs you to be in those moments. 736 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 5: I like that, Yeah, like you don't want to be 737 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 5: missus positive, like oh, I've just waltzed off the ground 738 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 5: kicked them up five like you don't and like you're 739 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 5: looking round and everyone's kind of put their heads down, 740 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 5: like you don't want to be that type of person, 741 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 5: But then you don't want to be the total ops 742 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 5: that where you might not have played well on the 743 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 5: Giants and one and you're kind of like, oh, gosh, 744 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 5: I shouldn't kicked the goal blah blah blah. Yes, it 745 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 5: was just fine of that balance and yeah, what the 746 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 5: team needed to be in that moment. 747 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 3: I like that. I ask everyone with everyone this question, 748 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: and it's what is your favorite failure? 749 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: Oh, I know straight away. 750 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 5: Wow, Yeah, it's actually in footy. 751 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 4: It was a. 752 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 5: I think it was a school's game, like year eight 753 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 5: school game in in Aubrey and our team we were 754 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 5: I think it was like a year eight and nine 755 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 5: team doing the state championships and we if we won 756 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 5: this game, we got to go on a trip away 757 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 5: to Camera I think it was, which back in those 758 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 5: days was like a mini camp. 759 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 4: Real high. 760 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a real highlight and we were coming 761 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 5: up against Billabong High else something. 762 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 3: Oh where is that It sounds like a funny place to. 763 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 5: Go somewhere near, But yeah, we were coming up against 764 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 5: them and like they were, we were real underdogs, like 765 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 5: we were tiny commared to them. And there was a 766 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 5: moment in the game, I think it was probably about 767 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 5: thirty seconds left, took a mark in the sent a 768 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 5: square area played on and would have been probably about 769 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 5: thirty five forty out and kicked it. Basically started celebrating 770 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 5: like or like I was kind of hugging my friend. 771 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 4: We're like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. 772 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 5: And it was a rainy day and it slipped to 773 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 5: the point and to this day, I'm still like, oh, like, 774 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 5: if only that had gone through Like nothing would have 775 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 5: changed obviously, but I think like that was so good 776 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 5: for me to experience that because I feel like up 777 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 5: at that stage, i'd never really had a moment where 778 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 5: that had kind of happened, like I'd lost the game. 779 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 5: It was always the other way around, right, And for 780 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 5: a kid who again like was a bit of an ego, 781 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 5: it was the best thing for us, like humbling. And 782 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 5: I remember I was prying to my mom, I was 783 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 5: crying of my dad and they were kind of like, oh, she's. 784 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 4: Never cried before. Wow, we do so Yeah, it was 785 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 4: like it was my best It was the best thing 786 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 4: for me. Yeah, which, yeah, that's probably why I like that. 787 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you were chatting to a little kid who 788 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: just loves sport, maybe love for you, what's your advice, Well. 789 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 5: I guess like you just gotta have passion for it. 790 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 5: You gotta want to do what you're doing. I guess 791 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 5: that's probably a reason why I never really was successful 792 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 5: in soccer, because I just I didn't have a passion for. 793 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 4: It, whereas. 794 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 5: Footy you like I've yeah, you just got to want 795 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 5: to do it. And it's also the things you do 796 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 5: when nobody's watching, Like I've always said that you got 797 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 5: like you can't be going out the back and doing extras, 798 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 5: lick in your backyard because you think your parents are 799 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 5: watching or anything like, it's the things you do when 800 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 5: no one's watching. Yeah, And it's the same with like 801 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 5: AFL the giants, Like I can't go out and do 802 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 5: extras and be. 803 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 4: Like, hey, Cam are you seeing this? 804 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 5: Like yeah, so you just you gotta have a passion 805 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 5: for it, and yeah, you got to do the extras 806 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 5: because if you think about it, everyone else is training, 807 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 5: everyone else is getting better, everyone else is doing the same. 808 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 5: But it's the one percenters and the extras that no 809 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 5: one sees that's what makes it gets better. 810 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 3: What do you want to achieve in your AFOW career? 811 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 5: Gosh, I have no idea just coasting. Yeah, I'm literally 812 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 5: I'm just taking it one game at a time, one 813 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 5: season at a time. I think that AFOW is so 814 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 5: good for me because I probably wouldn't be very successful 815 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 5: outside of footy, Like I don't love having a job 816 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 5: and working that nine to five, but and I'm probably 817 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 5: not as committed as having that outside job. Whereas yeah, 818 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 5: I guess footy has been great for me that I 819 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 5: it's allowed me to do what I love and get 820 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 5: paid for it. So yeah, that's all I'm happy with 821 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 5: at the moment is just living out my youngster years 822 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 5: and getting to do what I love with my friends, 823 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 5: living the dream. 824 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 3: What do you reckon then? Post foot you could be 825 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 3: a coaching career for you? 826 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I don't know about coaching. 827 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 5: I mean maybe, but I definitely do want to stay 828 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 5: in sport, Like that's my passion. So I do love 829 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 5: list management and like, yeah, I love like managing teams 830 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 5: and just seeing it from the like the business side. 831 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 5: It is very yeah, business like and just looking at 832 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 5: a team and seeing like, I know what you need 833 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 5: type thing that would do, and like, yeah, you'd just 834 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 5: be going and watching footy all day, but you wouldn't 835 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 5: be a player and having to prepare for a game 836 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 5: the next day. 837 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 3: So that could be nice, eating meat pies watching like having. 838 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 5: A dream about dream the dream and getting paid for 839 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 5: it too, Like why not saying an expensive hotels could 840 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 5: be nice? 841 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, putting on the pullman Rod, she's envisioned the live already, 842 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 4: Yeah that could be the dream. 843 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 5: And then yeah, if coaching is the path I take, 844 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 5: then yeah, that could also be something I look at doing. 845 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 3: Okay, what if you have to do a university degree 846 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 3: to get one of those roles? 847 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 5: Then what I think you actually do have to do 848 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 5: some courses to do some of them, Like, I'd be 849 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 5: fine with it because it'd be again something that I 850 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 5: enjoy doing. I just think that my problem would be 851 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 5: is that you always have the option deferring. So I 852 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 5: would always like think in the back of my mind, 853 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 5: could just when things get stuff just put like I 854 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 5: think I. 855 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 4: Wouldn't be too bad. I was actually okay at school, 856 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 4: like I can. 857 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 3: You just have to find something that you like. 858 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, you've got to find something amly passionate about it 859 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 5: because and you have your own knowledge, so you're not 860 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 5: just getting it all from a book. You can actually 861 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 5: add in your own stories and anecdotes if you will. 862 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 3: All right, I like that. Yeah, I've got a would 863 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 3: you rather to finish us off? Because you tell me 864 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 3: you better come with the good content. It's actually a 865 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 3: little bit of it is story time. So recently Riley 866 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 3: and I went to the Hunter Valley for a friend's wedding, 867 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 3: and we got there quite late. We were just saying, 868 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 3: like a little airbnb on this cool little farm stay, 869 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 3: but it was quite late at night unpacking our suitcase 870 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 3: when we got there and we were like, we forgot 871 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 3: the toothpaste. Groceries with clothes, like supermarkets were close. We're 872 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 3: looking it up. We were like, is there somewhere. I 873 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 3: was going to go and knock on someone else's daughters 874 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 3: to borrow toothpaste, but I was like, we can't be 875 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 3: doing that. No, so we brushed our teeth with a 876 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 3: toothbrush with no toothpaste on it. Would you rather do 877 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 3: that for the rest of your life or do the 878 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 3: you only have tooth paste and you brush your teeth 879 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 3: with you, You know when you like stay at someone's 880 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 3: house after a few beds and you like do that 881 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 3: one with the toothpaste. 882 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 5: What do you can if you just use the toothbrush, 883 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 5: Can you still have like breath mince or anything like that? 884 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? I had. I had chewing gum and then brush 885 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 3: my teeth cold turkey on the toothbrush. Oh, it was 886 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 3: pretty gross. 887 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 4: Toothbrush. 888 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 3: I think toothbrush. 889 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 5: I don't think sticking a finger in your mouth is 890 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 5: overly hygienic. 891 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 3: It's not good and I still feel like you end 892 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 3: up with fairy teeth, Like no matter whether you have 893 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 3: the toothpaste in there on it. 894 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 4: And surely you can make some sort of concoction that's not. 895 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 3: Toothpaste crush up, some like chewing mince or. 896 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 4: Something just for that mince taste. 897 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 3: For the minty freshness. All right, thank you very very 898 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 3: much for coming on today. It was it was very 899 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 3: good to chat. I'm a big fan of you just 900 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 3: as a person and as a footy player. I really 901 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 3: like you and I'm stoked to have had you on 902 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 3: the podcast at all. 903 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 4: Thanks so much for having me anytime. 904 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, see on the Giants podcast. Yes there, 905 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for listening. If you got something out 906 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 3: of this episode, I would absolutely love it if you 907 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 3: could send it on to one person who you think 908 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 3: might enjoy it. 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