WEBVTT - UNDER THE INFLUENCE: Angie Kent

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<v Speaker 1>I hit it for so long, and I one't really

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<v Speaker 1>knew then you I had an eating problem where I

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<v Speaker 1>would sick certain things. No one knew I was billemix.

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<v Speaker 1>I was bilimics for so long. I'm sure honest to

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<v Speaker 1>people like you know you and Colin fighting, I was

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<v Speaker 1>be like, it's still it's a real relationship. Now, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, you give me a shit sometimes, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, Colin, you search It's like it's a real

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<v Speaker 1>relationship now. I'm not going to pretend everything's okay all

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<v Speaker 1>the time when it's not. We just went through a

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<v Speaker 1>bloody rollercoaster and then we had to hide for three months,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they're just thrown in the public space. But

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<v Speaker 1>everybody just jugs the shit out of us. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be times where we really really struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>I was exercising every day, so I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>six pack. It's me. I always thought, you know, the bachelor,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to this beautiful, you know, spit goal and

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<v Speaker 1>might be averagely fit. To me, I didn't have my

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<v Speaker 1>ideal bachelorette body. And then I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get picked for the way I look, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>amazing bachelorre body that I don't have. I got picked

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<v Speaker 1>because of me.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to Outspoken, out Under the Influence episode.

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<v Speaker 2>You're joined as usual by journalists Amy and Sophie Torber

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<v Speaker 2>and today we're so excited to have Australia's reality show

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<v Speaker 2>sweetheart Angie.

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<v Speaker 3>Kent on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>The bubbly, fun loving twenty nine year old one Hearts

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<v Speaker 2>and Friends when she partnered with best friend Evie Jones

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<v Speaker 2>to commentate from the couch as we watched them watching

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<v Speaker 2>TV on goggle Box. Since then, she's gone on to

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<v Speaker 2>appear on I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here,

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<v Speaker 2>and Find Love on The Bachelorette. In today's episode, Angie

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<v Speaker 2>candidly speaks about her struggles with bulimia, her time as

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<v Speaker 2>a carer, and the speculation surrounding her relationship with Carlin.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's Angie, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Angie, welcome to Outspoken. We are so excited to have

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<v Speaker 2>you on our show because we have to say you

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<v Speaker 2>were our favorite bachelorette that has appeared on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, thanks goal, No worries.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've heard that you've had an incredibly busy end

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<v Speaker 2>of the year. You've recently finished your book tour for

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<v Speaker 2>your first book. If you don't laugh your cry, can

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<v Speaker 2>you tell us a little bit about the book and

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<v Speaker 2>what inspired you to write it in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I love writing. I've been writing since I was

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<v Speaker 1>a little gal. I'd always write stories or do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of poetry. I was so bad, but like I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I was great and just you know, diaries and things.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I studied creative writing at UNI, both in

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<v Speaker 1>America and in prison at QUT. So I've always like

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<v Speaker 1>dabbled in it, but I never thought of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>writing or anything like that. I just used it more

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<v Speaker 1>of like a creative outlet and expressions things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after the Jungle and Goggle Book and then

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<v Speaker 1>write before Bachelorette, I was approached to, yeah, write a book,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't know they kind of wanted me to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's still my book, but that asking questions

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<v Speaker 1>and I just speak, you know how I answer things

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<v Speaker 1>like I did on Google Blocker in the Jungle or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't actually know that I loved to write. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote the whole thing in three weeks before I

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<v Speaker 1>went into lockdown, which was kind of full on. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was just such a nice relief, Like it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a something I didn't have to think about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bachelorette, and it was just straight into writing,

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<v Speaker 1>which was Yeah, I think it's exactly what I need.

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<v Speaker 3>It got three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing to be able to produce a book in

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<v Speaker 2>such a short amount of time. You're Australia's JK. Rowling.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, yeah, I wouldn't go that far. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to bake up really really good stories. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even how to tell my stories. But yeah, not only

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks, so it was full on. It was quite

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<v Speaker 1>a short redline. But in a way I see it

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<v Speaker 1>as a blessing because I then didn't have time to

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<v Speaker 1>like overthink every single topic I was going to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>and edit myself. I was just like, go for goal,

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<v Speaker 1>say how you would want to say, and don't edit yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is the real you don't over don't you know.

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<v Speaker 1>With any project we do with humans, we just ce critique.

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<v Speaker 1>We always try to find something to make it better.

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<v Speaker 1>But this way it was just like pure raw angy,

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<v Speaker 1>no time to overthink, which I think was kind of yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a blessing in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you say, You do speak so candidly in

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<v Speaker 2>the book about growing up on the Sunshine Coast in

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<v Speaker 2>your childhood. For those who haven't read it yet, can

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<v Speaker 2>you tell us a little bit about what your childhood

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<v Speaker 2>was like growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>My childhood, I would say, was like that pretty sock

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<v Speaker 1>standard Sunshine Curast childhood. We were very lucky to have

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<v Speaker 1>such beautiful weather and you know, spent so much time

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<v Speaker 1>at outdoors. I was part of the generation early nineties

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<v Speaker 1>where there was none of that you know, computer time.

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<v Speaker 1>When there was a PlayStation, but even then we would

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<v Speaker 1>only be allowed on it for like, you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>hour of something a day, and that was like a tree.

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<v Speaker 1>It was more like you know, plane trees, cobby houses.

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<v Speaker 1>And my dad felt this like you know, amazing slide

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<v Speaker 1>with his bare hands. Like there was things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>like old school ninety stuff, which I you know, I loved.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad I've missed generation of technology, because then

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have probably had my wild imagination.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Holly pocket or a baby born? Was that was that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? I had both of home. I had

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<v Speaker 1>pocket do more. I was absessed with those tiny little goals.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like I love putting them in all different

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<v Speaker 1>like mermaids and like, oh my god, I forgot about

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<v Speaker 1>something and baby born Mine was Amber Jane.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, Sophie had a baby born, and so did

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<v Speaker 2>our other sister, Kate. And they actually named theirs after

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<v Speaker 2>Baywatch characters, which I don't know is actually appropriate now

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, so tweaked. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're the same vintage. We turn thirty this year.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got your thirtieth coming up soon, don't you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>February six is my thirtieth. I can't believe I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be thirty. I have no more excuse to act

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<v Speaker 1>like a complete idiot anymore, do I I'm still going to.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't have an excuse.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I think, just be yourself. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>the worst thing is when you're twenty nine and you're

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<v Speaker 2>waiting to turn thirty. Once you're thirty, it's like you

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<v Speaker 2>can laure that over people and be like, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thirty and I know that now, Yeah, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you got? Funny? I'm not really a birthday gal.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that sounds really sad. I can't of never really,

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<v Speaker 1>I just have dinner normally, but because it is my

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<v Speaker 1>thirtieth and I feel like I really want to celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>everything I've achieved in my twenties, I wouldn't mind doing something,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to be working, so I yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>working on my actual birthday, and then both weekend surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>my birthday, I'm working. So I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know unless somebody wants to. One thing Carlin has brought

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<v Speaker 1>me for my birthday is an to go see Gabby Bernstein.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like my spiritual guru, So that's one way to helprate,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm really.

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<v Speaker 3>Excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But besides that, I'm not doing anything. I'll make I'll

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<v Speaker 1>make Mum organize maybe a little family thing.

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<v Speaker 2>On more serious topics, just going back to your book,

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<v Speaker 2>I think what I loved most about it was just

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<v Speaker 2>how open you were talking about your struggle with boliemia.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I know a lot of young women.

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<v Speaker 2>Would have read this book and related very much to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you tell us about that time in your life

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<v Speaker 2>when you were fourteen and you were going through these

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<v Speaker 2>struggles For a.

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<v Speaker 1>Long time, I didn't talk about it, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>so embarrassed and ashamed because there was no real information

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, knowledge surrounding this. I just thought people

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<v Speaker 1>would think that I'm doing it for attention. They wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>understand why. I didn't really understand why I did it

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<v Speaker 1>until later on in life. Yeah, I think. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's so hard that time too. I kind of lanked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it out. When you're in times of

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<v Speaker 1>real hurt, you do, as humans do, tend to blank

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<v Speaker 1>out certain parts. But I think it started around fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>because that's when I remember I went to a natural

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<v Speaker 1>pat and she says, you know you are w you

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<v Speaker 1>eat and not having much knowledge or education on that. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>as a fourteen year old with all those while for men,

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<v Speaker 1>that to me kind of sounds like, you know, stop

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<v Speaker 1>eating unless it's just carrot. So I literally did that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just eat salads and vegetables. But then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got hungry around that crazy time of the month

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to bin. And then that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>when it started. I was punishing myself for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was flipping up and then it turned

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<v Speaker 1>into more of an addiction, like I was addicted to

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, and it wasn't because I wanted to be skinny.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I did start to get really skinny, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people started to notice that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that would be that then became an obsession too. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the way I got attention. Yeah, I could not not

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<v Speaker 1>do it, like my body would physically until I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'd just like, oh okay, grate my mind

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<v Speaker 1>stopping saying do it, do it, do it, do it.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as I did it, it would go away. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a control thing too. You know, my

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<v Speaker 1>life felt a little bit out of control, so I

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<v Speaker 1>could control what went into my body. Therefore I could

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<v Speaker 1>control what came out of it. It's all very when

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<v Speaker 1>you do the research on it later on in life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, now I understand why I did it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really quite sad because I was a little girl. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what I was doing. I just knew

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do it. That's what I felt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fourteen is so young.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean at the time when we're all fourteen, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we all thought we were just so old, But

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<v Speaker 2>it's so young. Did you feel pressure to live up

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<v Speaker 2>to any sort of girls in the magazines because now

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's got Instagram and it kind of scares me a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Does that kind of did you feel the

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<v Speaker 2>pressure to live up to those these girls and do

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<v Speaker 2>you know, oh no, was it more of a control thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, never to look like never to look like anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I suffered really bad acne. I think I just that

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<v Speaker 1>really affected my self esteem. Yeah, so that was the

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<v Speaker 1>main cause of it. It's suffering from the ACTE. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to have to ski like all my friends, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know when it's bad to beings to me that

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<v Speaker 1>then it wasn't that big a deal, I think. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was like MySpace and MSN Messenger, But

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<v Speaker 1>I never felt the pressure to look like anyone. I

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<v Speaker 1>always just felt pressure to be perfect, but not comparing

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<v Speaker 1>myself to anyone. I was very odd.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's odd at all. I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>quite normal.

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<v Speaker 2>But such a tough time to navigate, isn't it like

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<v Speaker 2>when you're going through high school when everything's changing And

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, while, how did.

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<v Speaker 3>You manage to overcome all of this?

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<v Speaker 1>I took years. I hit it for so long, but

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<v Speaker 1>I one't really knew then you won't have an eating

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<v Speaker 1>problem where I would eat certain things. No one knew

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<v Speaker 1>I was BOLLEMI I was alimic for so long. I

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<v Speaker 1>started to when I moved to Sydney, I started to

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<v Speaker 1>see a psychologist and I finally started to open up

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And then I really got into mindfulness, meditation,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went down more of a spiritual path. I

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<v Speaker 1>always had spirituality kind of growing up, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>more Catholic religious space. I started to turn more universal

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<v Speaker 1>self kind of expressing and finding out about myself. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just finding out triggers and why I did it, and

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<v Speaker 1>went down the whole you know, family, life path, friends,

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<v Speaker 1>relationships that may have affected me. I why I would

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<v Speaker 1>have done this and that Really Yeah, I educated myself

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<v Speaker 1>on it, and then you know, for you, I still

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<v Speaker 1>had days where I had to when I felt that

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<v Speaker 1>trigger of not being good enough for my body wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to do that because it was so many years of

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<v Speaker 1>using myself like that, I had to create channel it

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<v Speaker 1>to go elsewhere. Would be like, you know, go meditate now,

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<v Speaker 1>or go right, or say something beautiful about yourself, don't

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<v Speaker 1>run to the toilet. It took a long time, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I always say, It's like any addiction,

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<v Speaker 1>it never goes away. You just channel it elsewhere, and

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<v Speaker 1>you get addicted to something else, like treating yourself better

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<v Speaker 1>or meditation or exercising. But yeah, I still have really

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<v Speaker 1>bad thoughts when I'm down. I just don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that to myself anymore, so I channel it to

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<v Speaker 1>other other area, you could say, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you worried at all that appearing on a show

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<v Speaker 2>like The Bachelor, where you receive so much scrutiny and judgment,

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<v Speaker 2>were you worried that that might spark some of those

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<v Speaker 2>feelings again?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? One, and it did. At the beginning. I I

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<v Speaker 1>went in like I was exercising every day, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't you know what was overly super fit? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a six pack. It's me. I always thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the Bachelor. I had to be beautiful, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fit Galon m'd be averagely. I'm only quite little. But

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I didn't have my ideal bachelorette body. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was like, you know what, I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>picked for the way I look and for this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>amazing bachelorette body that I don't have. I got picked

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<v Speaker 1>because of me. So I am focused on that more.

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<v Speaker 1>But no idead. I often felt prescious through at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would try to try to put me in size

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<v Speaker 1>sixes and I wasn't a size six, but by the

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<v Speaker 1>end I was six because I was so stressed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I watched myself just like anyone, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>worry mainly not about my body weight, but just my

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<v Speaker 1>acme I look and I just like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>or I could notice was my scars. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought, you know, don't be ridiculous. Nobody is perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>and focus on your heart. That's why you're in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a find love, not to you know, why would

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<v Speaker 1>I want to pick somebody that only liked me for

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<v Speaker 1>the way I look.

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<v Speaker 2>We all thought you looked absolutely stunning, and as we said,

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<v Speaker 2>you were just saying this, but you were our favorite

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<v Speaker 2>bachelorette because not only we think you're gorgeous, you're funny.

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<v Speaker 3>You're the full package.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's not to say the other bachelorettes haven't made,

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<v Speaker 2>but you brought such amazing personality. And you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>actually stood up to those dicks in the house because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's some kind of contracts you have to

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<v Speaker 2>sign that you know they've got.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, some of the entertaining people have to stay in.

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<v Speaker 2>But I actually thought that in terms of criticism, I

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<v Speaker 2>think people haven't been openly criticizing you as much as

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<v Speaker 2>maybe previous bachelorettes. Have you felt that or have you

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<v Speaker 2>felt a lot of criticism?

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<v Speaker 1>I got so lucky, But then again, I didn't search

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<v Speaker 1>for it because I have some suggars and suffering from

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<v Speaker 1>both of esteem and eating sort of for so long

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day. I don't like to search. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some people misery likes companies that if you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>feral mood you kind of want to attract, like book

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<v Speaker 1>for more. No, I was really important, and just maybe

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<v Speaker 1>ignorance is blissed too. Since I didn't look for it,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it, but I don't reckon. Many people

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<v Speaker 1>commented on the way I looked at all. I think

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<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't that type of bachelorette. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>really emotional and kind of personality based, like even my

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<v Speaker 1>boys they well, I thought that was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people were like little why not? But it was very much.

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<v Speaker 1>They had huge personality. So I was like, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love a personality, I thought, looking but a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people were like, god, you locked out girlfriend, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, I'm not unless I have low standards.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've got to say, as soon as Carlin came on,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, SOF and I we always played that game,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you and Eve played it a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit on Google Box, where you'd be like nah nah no.

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<v Speaker 2>We were literally not well, not that we were saying no,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was like, he's clearly the best looking of

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<v Speaker 2>all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>A game. That's the game we'd play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, were you playing that in your head

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<v Speaker 2>the night they were all coming down to beat you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just just by myself, I was said, and wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if I did. That night was so long I probably

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<v Speaker 1>can say I was like, I was like, yeah, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god. With Carlin, he was just yes, he's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously so good looking, but to me, it was just

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<v Speaker 1>like his presence and how calming he was, and he

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<v Speaker 1>really looked into my eyes, and that feeling was just

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<v Speaker 1>so overwhelming. A lot of the boys were so nervous

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<v Speaker 1>and highly strong, because like such an intimidating night. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even explain how full on that night is. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's so cold, so everyone's knows and they're cold, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they're just hanging for a drink, but they've been

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<v Speaker 1>waiting around for hours. But he had this like beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>calming presence. And yeah, usually I wouldn't go for the

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<v Speaker 1>best looking guy because I would think this is so mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was kind of thinking, oh, you're probably boring,

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<v Speaker 1>but he wasn't. They didn't show his personality as much

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<v Speaker 1>because they've lost such big, big personalities like Kim and Kieran,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie and all that. That kind of stole the show

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. But yeah, I know he he looks for

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<v Speaker 1>just a bonus, seriously, Like it's his personality and his

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<v Speaker 1>presence that really really drew me to him. And he

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<v Speaker 1>looked ridiculously good enough that white food, let's say so.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I just felt like he was discriminated against throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the series because of his looks, because everyone sort of

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<v Speaker 2>judged him as to be like, oh, you're just on

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<v Speaker 2>here for your Instagram and that kind of thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose we've seen that in the past with The Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the women often get judged. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, soph did you feel the same thing that

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<v Speaker 2>people were Well, as Andre was saying, I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>they refer that he didn't have much of a personality,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is hard to show everyone's personalities, I suppose

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<v Speaker 2>in that half an hour time.

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<v Speaker 3>But also the Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bachelor wants everyone to be shocked at the end

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and I felt like that always, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't work in the favor of the winner. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you find that you thought that it was very much

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<v Speaker 2>focused on Tim, wasn't it the last few episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that definitely kept everyone on the edge of

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<v Speaker 1>their seats in terms of who I was going to pick.

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<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't That was because I I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I really didn't know. And I did have to tell

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<v Speaker 1>Carla this, you know, as soon as the show was done,

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<v Speaker 1>and I picked him, and because I didn't want him

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<v Speaker 1>to think that I, you know, was keeping anything from him,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was got to see it in real, you

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<v Speaker 1>know time when you guys were watching it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea who I was going to kick until

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<v Speaker 1>I stood there on that thing environ and they had

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<v Speaker 1>to send someone down first. That's the name of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And they said, it's the first person that comes your head.

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<v Speaker 1>Who comes down first doesn't mean that he's the one

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<v Speaker 1>that's going home. And I just Kim and I had

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<v Speaker 1>time to change my mind, and I didn't. I just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like, no, I can't spend I can't spend Carlen home,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank God, because I feel like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>will always have a soft spots for Tim. He's, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I still stand by the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>is one of my soulmates. But Carlin is my future.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a future with Carlin. And yeah, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they they edited definitely to be the Tim Show.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's because I didn't even know who I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to pick, so I played a huge part in

0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.399
<v Speaker 1>them kind of having that footage where it's like we

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<v Speaker 1>didnt know who's going to pick into the last minute anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So you.

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<v Speaker 2>Would, well, that's great to hear that you were being

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<v Speaker 2>genuine because often I watch, especially the American Bachelor and Bachelorette.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you watch those?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I have, like in the past, but no, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't you everything's.

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<v Speaker 3>So sensationalized compared to the Australian.

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<v Speaker 2>One, and they're always I could imagine I.

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<v Speaker 3>Wanted to see you guys watch it on Google Box

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<v Speaker 3>because it's I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like anyway, but they they're always, oh, they actually

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<v Speaker 2>tell the people that they love both of them, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you never know who they're going to pick.

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<v Speaker 3>So I love that you're pe.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they would have loved thing do things differently.

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<v Speaker 1>But I always said, if I'm going to be a bachelorette,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to let maybe meet Otherwise I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get anything. I'm just going to be awkward. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to be someone I'm not and no

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<v Speaker 1>one wants to watch that. So I often would go

0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:28.879
<v Speaker 1>rogue and do what I wanted, and by halfway they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, don't overly, you know, tell Angie what to do,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously I had rules and things like to follow

0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and you know, boxes to tick. They were like, the

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<v Speaker 1>magic happens when Angie gets an idea in her head

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<v Speaker 1>and grows rogue. And they often let me to do

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted, which is great. Otherwise I would have

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<v Speaker 1>just felt felt trapped and like I had to be

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<v Speaker 1>someone I'm not and that's that would have just everybody

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<v Speaker 1>would have seen through it. People who have followed me

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.040
<v Speaker 1>for years, they would have been like, that's just while

0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:56.440
<v Speaker 1>we're watching this bachelorette, that's not Angie and I devil

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:56.840
<v Speaker 1>wanted that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's so true talking about people going Kieran

0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:02.480
<v Speaker 2>seemed to do a lot of what he wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Was he actually fully nude in front of.

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<v Speaker 1>You all, fully nude? Fully nude? I thought when he

0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.720
<v Speaker 1>took off his rob but I kept saying to Evan,

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<v Speaker 1>surely not, surely not. She's like, I reckon he would,

0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:18.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, no, it'll He'll have a little cheese

0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:20.680
<v Speaker 1>during one and we'll just seek He's like what he

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<v Speaker 1>was darker and he thought it was only going to

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<v Speaker 1>be for like twenty minutes. He was naked for like

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<v Speaker 1>four hours and he was just standing there for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kept getting up afooring him drinks. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm going to be drunk because he's got

0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.520
<v Speaker 1>three more hours of this. Otherwise he's just going to start.

0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 1>It's going to kick in and he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>like what am I?

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<v Speaker 2>So well during the show, I felt like there's been

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<v Speaker 2>constant speculation of rumors that you didn't end up finding love.

0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you felt that, but I felt

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.159
<v Speaker 2>like it was very much that feeling this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>now since you've obviously announced that you're with Carlin, there

0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.040
<v Speaker 2>seems to be so much pressure put on for you

0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.440
<v Speaker 2>to show how in you are via Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you felt that pressure at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a little bit, because the ending is so full,

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and with you know, them editing Kim so well and

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<v Speaker 1>not editing the way I saw him. I mean like,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they didn't fake any of it. All that stuff happened.

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<v Speaker 1>They just didn't shine so much light on the connection.

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Corlin and I had a bought through shine the light

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<v Speaker 1>on the connection Tim and I had. I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, oh god, you know this could go. There

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:34.119
<v Speaker 1>wasn't really fifty fifty. It was like sixty forty, like

0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:36.960
<v Speaker 1>everybody wanted Jim doing and then Carlin. So I was

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>like I felt this pressure in a way because so

0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.040
<v Speaker 1>many people were like, oh, she's made the biggest mistake

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 1>of her life, and it's like, no, I haven't. Yeah,

0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:49.119
<v Speaker 1>people aren't there, you know, they don't understand what actually

0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:51.840
<v Speaker 1>goes on. That's the show. I was watching it as

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.440
<v Speaker 1>a show. I already lived the experience. I already know

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 1>what happened. So yeah, when I left, I was a

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:01.200
<v Speaker 1>little bit like, you know, I felt like I kind

0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of had to prove and then I'm like, well, so

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:07.720
<v Speaker 1>as long as my friend's family go and Colin friends

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and family, no, and Colin, and I know, I don't

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.920
<v Speaker 1>really overly care what anybody else has to say. I'm

0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 1>glad they had they got their show. At the end

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.920
<v Speaker 1>of the day, they didn't get their happy ending, but

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I got mine. And isn't that the basis of the

0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:23.160
<v Speaker 1>show exactly?

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:27.440
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes you know when you see couples on Instagram

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 2>and they try a bit too hard, you know they're

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 2>posting these love Yeah, I feel like that's the first

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:36.160
<v Speaker 2>sign that a relationship probably isn't going too well.

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm true honest to like the people that even said

0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 1>which would probably get me in trouble. People are like,

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:44.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, you and Colin fighting, I'd be like, it's

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>still it's a real relationship now. I'd be like, yeah,

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:49.879
<v Speaker 1>he gives me the ship sometimes, Oh my god, Colin surging,

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:52.199
<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's a real relationship now. I'm not going

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:55.120
<v Speaker 1>to pretend everything's okay all the time when it's gone.

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.719
<v Speaker 1>We just went through a bloody roller coaster and then

0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>we had to hide for three months and then we're

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 1>just thrown in the public space. But everybody was judge

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the shit out of us. Of course, there's going to

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>be times where we really really struggle that we communicate

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>so well, but yeah, we have some Sarry Crockers. We

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.360
<v Speaker 1>have days where we're just like, this is so hardcore,

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 1>but we talk it out. We don't shut down, which

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.360
<v Speaker 1>is good. That was growth like that because I could

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>see how it feel really hard for couples after this

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 1>show because it's hardcore, Oh for sure.

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:26.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean even when you look at Matt Agnews series

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 2>and they constantly were showing him, you know, humping, well,

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 2>try humping Abbey on the beach, I was like, wow,

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be a hard episode to watch for

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 2>those two.

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, everybody signs up, so you know, no

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>one's forced to do it, but you don't realize how

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>hard it's going to be, and you don't really think

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 1>about what Australia is going to think of you when

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 1>you're living the experience and throwing yourself in there to

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:54.400
<v Speaker 1>find love. I mean, that's my case. I never thought

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>what Australia think of me when I was filming those

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:58.680
<v Speaker 1>nine weeks because I just wanted to get through the

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:03.120
<v Speaker 1>days and make connections and you know, look after my heart.

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 1>During the process. But yeah, you just watch it and

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>you're just like, oh my gosh, this is you don't

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.400
<v Speaker 1>think about that and you've got to have the right

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 1>too mentally to be able to deal with it. For sure. Yeah,

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that would have been so hard for Chelsea to watch that,

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 1>but it is it is. It is showing they did

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.159
<v Speaker 1>do it. So it's kind of like it's it's up

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 1>for they can show whatever they want at the end

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>of the day.

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 2>And many of our listeners would have first fell in

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 2>love with you, of course on Google Box. You appeared

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.560
<v Speaker 2>on the show along Evie, but there was also a

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:40.880
<v Speaker 2>third housemate who we didn't get to see, your best

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 2>friend Tom, and you of course acted as Tom's care

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:44.640
<v Speaker 2>for three and a half years.

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Can you tell us a little bit about what that

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 3>time was like in your life.

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that was a magical time. It was a hardcore

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>time obviously, because you know, I went from moving to

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Sydney in Turning my slight off in the film television world,

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:03.679
<v Speaker 1>so I moved Therefore, I wanted to produce and eventually direct,

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and you know I had all these different ideas and yeah,

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I was you know, partying because I was only young

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>in Turning working as a dinning or doing chromo and

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 1>then when I met you, I was just convinced me

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>into moving in. So I went from this young twenty

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 1>one twenty two year old girl. So then kind of

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 1>being like a not a parent because Tom's older than me,

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>but you know, being a full time support worker but

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>also best friend and house mate. So it just makes

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>me kind of not grow up quicker, but really, you know,

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:40.879
<v Speaker 1>put my caring hat on, and yeah, we kind of

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 1>had our own family. It was like being easy with

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the moms and dads and then we had our had

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:49.119
<v Speaker 1>our Tom, and then we had our seven at baby

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>seven at a time, rescue dogs, let's go on environment.

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.160
<v Speaker 1>There was always a lot of people coming and going,

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>but it was so magical. I learned so much about myself.

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I've traveled with Tom Sabali twice and

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>We've been to London together and he comes and stays

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>on the Sunshine Coast and we stay in apartments and

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, we go. He's just like a family member

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>to me. Now. Yeah, it was a real Ironsina and

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't change a thing. Learning how to look after

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody with the intellectual disability and diabetes is it's hard

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>work because he could wake up in the middle of

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the night scareaming bloody birder and you know, from a

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>hyperoguo semic attack, and I'd have to you know, he

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.120
<v Speaker 1>would kind of have to pin him down, and I'd

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>have to put food in his mouth, and then we

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.680
<v Speaker 1>have to get the needles into him. So it's it

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>could be quite full lot of times. But then other times,

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, you just learn to live in the moment

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.680
<v Speaker 1>because that's how Tom lived, and you learn so much

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>about getting over stuff because there's just more to life

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>and worrying about, you know, being stuck in traffic Sydney traffic,

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>or not getting the new iPhone, you know, stuff that

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.680
<v Speaker 1>people lose their minds over. It just made me realize

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that more. I'm kind of just live in the moment,

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>which was exactly what I needed being a youngster moving

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to that wild while Sitney lifestyle.

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>And the goggle Box, of course, seems to kind of

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 2>pride itself on showing diverse families in Australia. Did it

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 2>annoy you a little bit that they chose not to

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 2>include Tom as part of your family in the show?

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>No, I know, the thing that was a lot of

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 1>pressure for goggle Box because it just seems so much hate, like,

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, what's the show? It sounds rubbish. So

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want it to be that show where they're

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>putting in I don't know how to say this without

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 1>coming across that I don't know. They say, I know

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>what you do, and you know exactly what you you

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. They don't want it to be

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>that show where they're just putting in a bunch of

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>minorities to sell it to people are like, oh, you

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>know that. That's how they felt to serve. And also

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Tom was one do it because he would not want

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to sit for four hours watching the amount of crap

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>we've watched. Sometimes amongst the amazing shows, we watched a

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of crap. He'd be like, I don't like it.

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to play my video games, I want to

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>eat like good. Only we wanted to live his best life.

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>We wouldn't have wanted to hold him down because that's

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 1>not the way, That's not what we're there to do.

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, when he's half my support workers, we're not

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>going to force him to do stuff. Plus Tom's very

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>hard to understand, So every time Tom would have spoke,

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>we either or I would have had to repeat what

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>he said, because only close people to Tom can really

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>understand what he's thinking and saying, so there'd be some

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>titles or we'd have to repeat everything. So there was

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of reasons as to why Tom couldn't be apart,

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>but there was no resentment there at all. If anything,

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Tom would have resented asked if we forced he watched

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>that much television.

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 3>Too much Bachelor for him. I was gonna say, what,

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 3>oh God, what's.

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 2>The reality of actually being on google Box? Because I mean,

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 2>as I said, we all love the show, but do

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 2>people recognize you on the street.

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 3>I suppose when you were on google Box.

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when Edie and I went together, especially when we

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 1>were with like Sisy, our big bulldog, and the two

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Pomeranians we had at the time that are both passed

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>now rest in peace, our little princes. They were kind

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>of like the original google Box dogs. Yeah, we were together,

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>people would buying the dog cart. So when we went

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>to dog pubs and stuff. Even now, people will still

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>yell out goggle Box girls, and a lot of people

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>it is, and a lot of people at my book

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>signings will still say we just loved you on google Box,

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, They're like, we watched the other shows,

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>but we missed you so much on goggle Box. Are

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you coming back? I get that question every time I'm

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>out and about usually when are you going back to

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>goggle Box? And I'm like, guys, been here and they

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>ain't taking us back. Once you leave and do other shows,

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>they not having your back.

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Were you interested to see how they would actually cover

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the Bachelorette because I watched, you know, I was really

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 2>interested to see how they would tackle it.

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I was interested in Slash, excited, slash, a bit nervous.

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm still pretty close with all of them. Some are

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>talking more than others, but that's just like any work,

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, friends, situation, you talk to some people more

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>than others. I've got a lot of support, mainly from

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>my goggle block, but yeah, I saw from the jungle

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>some of them weren't that supportive of a little bit like, oh,

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, here we go. But I sat on my

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 1>couch for four years the same to other people, so

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, comma whatever it was my time to cover.

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 2>And just how rigorous is the filming process? I mean,

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 2>I suppose like for a lot of people watching at home.

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Is there a cameraman actually there or is it a

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 2>camera setup or what exactly does that look like?

0:31:59.160 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 3>In your house?

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>There is an entire crew, so there's really like five people,

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>but they're all set up. It was my at the time,

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>so they do they operate everything from another room, so

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>they'll have two cameras, but there's not a cameraman behind.

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>So I mean after the second season, you don't even

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>notice if the cameras are there. And we did it

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>for four years, so it was just like second h

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>to us. They're lighting and sounding into a mic and stuff,

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>but nothing there to make you, you know, overly feel

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>like you're not, you know, in the comfort of your

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>home watching television with your friends or family or seven

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>rescue dogs.

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Were you ever concerned about what you might say if

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 2>it came back to buy you because I know, we

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 2>always joke that our family would be amazing, that our

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 2>dad would just be too offensive in his comments.

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 3>From you know, the shows he watches. Yeah, are you

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 3>have a bit worried?

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>At first I think we were a little bit, and

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>then with time because it was just like God, if

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I have to send to everything, I said there, there's

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>be no point me talking because my brain to mouth

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>ratio is like quite off sometimes and so as my

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>heart to mouth ratio. So I usually say what I

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>think and then later I'll go, oh, my god, oh

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that probably wasn't right. But they never showed me saying that,

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>so they just show that's the thing. I'd say.

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>We were never allowed at to be around the celebrities

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>that we would speak about, so we felt really protected.

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>And then when we got into the world of you know,

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:39.479
<v Speaker 1>after the Jungle and especially Bachelorette, I'm working with all

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>these people I spoke about, I do get a little

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>bit nervous because I'm like, for four years I watched

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you and they were like, yeah, and I remember you

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>said this, and I was like, I don't remember. I

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>just love.

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<v Speaker 2>And one question I suppose people are interested to find

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<v Speaker 2>out is how will you and Carlin be spending Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>this year? Is your first Christmas together? Is the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>on to see families and make it a special one?

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<v Speaker 1>We were Yeah, we were originally going to do his

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>family fos and then mine, but this was at a

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<v Speaker 1>time where it was like still super fresh, and I

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>thought to myself, if I was dating somebody in the

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<v Speaker 1>real world after three months have been together. Even in

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the normal setup, I would never be like, again, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to your house to christ and you're kind of fine,

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<v Speaker 1>like I wouldn't. But I did feel this pressure of,

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<v Speaker 1>like you after the show, you almost feel like you're engaged,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had this I was putting pressure on it,

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>which is not like me to do that, and I

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of I'm speaking to Georgia love actually, and I

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>said to her, I just feel like I need to

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<v Speaker 1>not rush it, but keep that flow of the show

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<v Speaker 1>kind of alive. You know, there's a high, intense, bold feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, no, you're at a real world now, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>do what you would do. And I'm like, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd take it. Let's go back to basics and let's

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>just date and still be boyfriend girlfriend, but like just

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<v Speaker 1>be normal. So he's I'm not going there for Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's coming puts very infamous Kent Boxing Day, which

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I need to bribe all the boys on the show about.

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, yeah, your don't behavior. Wo'd be coming

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<v Speaker 1>to the Kent Boxing Day and everybody was like a

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.439
<v Speaker 1>joke we had in the mansion, so Yeah, he's coming

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<v Speaker 1>for Boxing Day and we're going to spend Boxing Day

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<v Speaker 1>and up until New Year's Day together.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's so nice.

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<v Speaker 2>And just lastly, so when I am massive Christmas fan,

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<v Speaker 2>so we have to ask are you a big Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>fan or can you sort of You're not you're not

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<v Speaker 2>that into it?

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<v Speaker 3>Not tragic like us?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh my god, I love Christmas so much. I've

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 1>already been to the Contrary Christmas Carols and then the

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:51.760
<v Speaker 1>next night I do the Karamunday Lake Christmas Carols and life.

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>And we've got like Christmas Light looking we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do we go to that like what's that religious one

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 1>down in a dream that they put on that big really? Oh,

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>we have it, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>All I'm such as for Christmas Treo, do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a real Christmas tree or a fake?

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<v Speaker 1>No, we have a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's all right.

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>My family passes too, like we've got too much stuff

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>going on, and there's a way will we be able

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to get a real Christmas tree up in horror? But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Christmas. I love Christmas so much. Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>And just lastly, obviously you've got your book out at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment, what other exciting things you have planned for

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<v Speaker 2>next year?

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<v Speaker 3>And where can people get a copy of your book

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<v Speaker 3>as well?

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<v Speaker 1>I think my book is still here, there and everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>which is great. Again, I like to say very clearly

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that my book is in like a biography. I know,

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm only like twelve years old and I haven't lived

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of lives to be like, listen to my

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:55.280
<v Speaker 1>story of my life. It's more like, you know, life lessons,

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>what to do, what not to do for your best mate.

0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:59.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've been through some stuff. I've learned. This

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:03.320
<v Speaker 1>is how I got navigated through some things. This is

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 1>what you shouldn't do. I recommend, but again, I'm not

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a doctor or a spiritual guru. Kind of Yeah, it's

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>a nice, little lighthearted read. You can read a lot about,

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, living with people with the disability, rescuing dog, relationships, friendship,

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm pretty sure it's still online book Tropia Dimmicks,

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's a lot like Target. Everything. Target

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a present. It's a cute little Christmas present

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really easy reading my mom's goat done and

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<v Speaker 1>read it in like an hour, put it down. I

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.280
<v Speaker 1>know that's my mom that's been embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if your mom didn't like it, would be a

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 2>bit concerned.

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<v Speaker 3>She's loving it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>At least I've got my mom and my number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you so much for joining us. We've had

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<v Speaker 2>such a lovely time chatting with you and we wish

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<v Speaker 2>you all the best.

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<v Speaker 3>But I hope you have a nice Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy. It's merry Christmas and joy the festivities. And watch

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<v Speaker 1>this face because there's some other exciting things popping up

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 1>your full secret Squirrel, but time will reveal.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, so nearly said that at the same time. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't wait to find out.

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