1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: I hit it for so long, and I one't really 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: knew then you I had an eating problem where I 3 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: would sick certain things. No one knew I was billemix. 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: I was bilimics for so long. I'm sure honest to 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: people like you know you and Colin fighting, I was 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: be like, it's still it's a real relationship. Now, I'd 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, you give me a shit sometimes, Oh 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: my god, Colin, you search It's like it's a real 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: relationship now. I'm not going to pretend everything's okay all 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: the time when it's not. We just went through a 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: bloody rollercoaster and then we had to hide for three months, 12 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: and then they're just thrown in the public space. But 13 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: everybody just jugs the shit out of us. Of course, 14 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: there's going to be times where we really really struggle. 15 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: I was exercising every day, so I didn't have a 16 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: six pack. It's me. I always thought, you know, the bachelor, 17 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: I had to this beautiful, you know, spit goal and 18 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: might be averagely fit. To me, I didn't have my 19 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: ideal bachelorette body. And then I was like, you know what, 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't get picked for the way I look, you know, 21 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: amazing bachelorre body that I don't have. I got picked 22 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: because of me. 23 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Outspoken, out Under the Influence episode. 24 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: You're joined as usual by journalists Amy and Sophie Torber 25 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: and today we're so excited to have Australia's reality show 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: sweetheart Angie. 27 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 3: Kent on the show. 28 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: The bubbly, fun loving twenty nine year old one Hearts 29 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: and Friends when she partnered with best friend Evie Jones 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: to commentate from the couch as we watched them watching 31 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: TV on goggle Box. Since then, she's gone on to 32 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: appear on I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here, 33 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: and Find Love on The Bachelorette. In today's episode, Angie 34 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: candidly speaks about her struggles with bulimia, her time as 35 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: a carer, and the speculation surrounding her relationship with Carlin. 36 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: Here's Angie, So. 37 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: Angie, welcome to Outspoken. We are so excited to have 38 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: you on our show because we have to say you 39 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: were our favorite bachelorette that has appeared on the show. 40 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: Ah, thanks goal, No worries. 41 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: So we've heard that you've had an incredibly busy end 42 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: of the year. You've recently finished your book tour for 43 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: your first book. If you don't laugh your cry, can 44 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: you tell us a little bit about the book and 45 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: what inspired you to write it in the first place. 46 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: Well, I love writing. I've been writing since I was 47 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: a little gal. I'd always write stories or do a 48 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: lot of poetry. I was so bad, but like I thought, 49 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: I was great and just you know, diaries and things. 50 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: And then I studied creative writing at UNI, both in 51 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: America and in prison at QUT. So I've always like 52 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: dabbled in it, but I never thought of, you know, 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: writing or anything like that. I just used it more 54 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: of like a creative outlet and expressions things like that. 55 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: And then after the Jungle and Goggle Book and then 56 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: write before Bachelorette, I was approached to, yeah, write a book, 57 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: and they didn't know they kind of wanted me to. 58 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's still my book, but that asking questions 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: and I just speak, you know how I answer things 60 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: like I did on Google Blocker in the Jungle or whatever. 61 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: They didn't actually know that I loved to write. So 62 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: I wrote the whole thing in three weeks before I 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: went into lockdown, which was kind of full on. But 64 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: it was just such a nice relief, Like it was 65 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: kind of like a something I didn't have to think about, 66 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, bachelorette, and it was just straight into writing, 67 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: which was Yeah, I think it's exactly what I need. 68 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 3: It got three weeks. 69 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: That's amazing to be able to produce a book in 70 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: such a short amount of time. You're Australia's JK. Rowling. 71 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, I wouldn't go that far. I don't know 72 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: how to bake up really really good stories. I don't 73 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: even how to tell my stories. But yeah, not only 74 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: three weeks, so it was full on. It was quite 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: a short redline. But in a way I see it 76 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: as a blessing because I then didn't have time to 77 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: like overthink every single topic I was going to discuss 78 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: and edit myself. I was just like, go for goal, 79 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: say how you would want to say, and don't edit yourself, 80 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: Like this is the real you don't over don't you know. 81 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: With any project we do with humans, we just ce critique. 82 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: We always try to find something to make it better. 83 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: But this way it was just like pure raw angy, 84 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: no time to overthink, which I think was kind of yeah, 85 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: a blessing in the sky. 86 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: And as you say, You do speak so candidly in 87 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: the book about growing up on the Sunshine Coast in 88 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: your childhood. For those who haven't read it yet, can 89 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: you tell us a little bit about what your childhood 90 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: was like growing up. 91 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: My childhood, I would say, was like that pretty sock 92 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: standard Sunshine Curast childhood. We were very lucky to have 93 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: such beautiful weather and you know, spent so much time 94 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: at outdoors. I was part of the generation early nineties 95 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: where there was none of that you know, computer time. 96 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: When there was a PlayStation, but even then we would 97 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: only be allowed on it for like, you know, an 98 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: hour of something a day, and that was like a tree. 99 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: It was more like you know, plane trees, cobby houses. 100 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: And my dad felt this like you know, amazing slide 101 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: with his bare hands. Like there was things like that, 102 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: like old school ninety stuff, which I you know, I loved. 103 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm so glad I've missed generation of technology, because then 104 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have probably had my wild imagination. 105 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: Did you have a. 106 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: Holly pocket or a baby born? Was that was that 107 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: kind of. 108 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: Oh my god? I had both of home. I had 109 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: pocket do more. I was absessed with those tiny little goals. 110 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: I was like I love putting them in all different 111 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: like mermaids and like, oh my god, I forgot about 112 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: something and baby born Mine was Amber Jane. 113 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: Oh well, Sophie had a baby born, and so did 114 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: our other sister, Kate. And they actually named theirs after 115 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: Baywatch characters, which I don't know is actually appropriate now 116 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: you think about it. 117 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so tweaked. I love it. 118 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: I think we're the same vintage. We turn thirty this year. 119 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: You've got your thirtieth coming up soon, don't you? 120 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 121 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: I do. 122 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: February six is my thirtieth. I can't believe I'm going 123 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: to be thirty. I have no more excuse to act 124 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: like a complete idiot anymore, do I I'm still going to. 125 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: I just don't have an excuse. 126 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: I don't. I think, just be yourself. I think it's 127 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: the worst thing is when you're twenty nine and you're 128 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: waiting to turn thirty. Once you're thirty, it's like you 129 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: can laure that over people and be like, well, I'm 130 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: thirty and I know that now, Yeah, what. 131 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: Have you got? Funny? I'm not really a birthday gal. 132 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: I know that sounds really sad. I can't of never really, 133 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: I just have dinner normally, but because it is my 134 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: thirtieth and I feel like I really want to celebrate 135 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 1: everything I've achieved in my twenties, I wouldn't mind doing something, 136 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: but I'm going to be working, so I yeah, I'm 137 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: working on my actual birthday, and then both weekend surrounding 138 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: my birthday, I'm working. So I don't know. I don't 139 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: know unless somebody wants to. One thing Carlin has brought 140 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: me for my birthday is an to go see Gabby Bernstein. 141 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: She's like my spiritual guru, So that's one way to helprate, 142 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: which I'm really. 143 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: Excited about it. 144 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: But besides that, I'm not doing anything. I'll make I'll 145 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: make Mum organize maybe a little family thing. 146 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: On more serious topics, just going back to your book, 147 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: I think what I loved most about it was just 148 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: how open you were talking about your struggle with boliemia. 149 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: Because I know a lot of young women. 150 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: Would have read this book and related very much to it. 151 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: Can you tell us about that time in your life 152 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: when you were fourteen and you were going through these 153 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: struggles For a. 154 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: Long time, I didn't talk about it, and I was 155 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: so embarrassed and ashamed because there was no real information 156 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: or you know, knowledge surrounding this. I just thought people 157 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: would think that I'm doing it for attention. They wouldn't 158 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: understand why. I didn't really understand why I did it 159 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: until later on in life. Yeah, I think. I mean 160 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: it's so hard that time too. I kind of lanked 161 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: a lot of it out. When you're in times of 162 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: real hurt, you do, as humans do, tend to blank 163 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: out certain parts. But I think it started around fourteen 164 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: because that's when I remember I went to a natural 165 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: pat and she says, you know you are w you 166 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: eat and not having much knowledge or education on that. Obviously, 167 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: as a fourteen year old with all those while for men, 168 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: that to me kind of sounds like, you know, stop 169 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: eating unless it's just carrot. So I literally did that. 170 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: I would just eat salads and vegetables. But then you know, 171 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: I got hungry around that crazy time of the month 172 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: and I want to bin. And then that's kind of 173 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: when it started. I was punishing myself for you know, 174 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: I think it was flipping up and then it turned 175 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: into more of an addiction, like I was addicted to 176 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: doing it, and it wasn't because I wanted to be skinny. 177 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: But then I did start to get really skinny, and 178 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people started to notice that, and then 179 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: that would be that then became an obsession too. That's 180 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: the way I got attention. Yeah, I could not not 181 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: do it, like my body would physically until I did it. 182 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: And then I'd just like, oh okay, grate my mind 183 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: stopping saying do it, do it, do it, do it. 184 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: As soon as I did it, it would go away. Yeah. 185 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: It was like a control thing too. You know, my 186 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: life felt a little bit out of control, so I 187 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: could control what went into my body. Therefore I could 188 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: control what came out of it. It's all very when 189 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: you do the research on it later on in life. 190 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: You know, now I understand why I did it. It's 191 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: really quite sad because I was a little girl. Really, 192 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was doing. I just knew 193 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: I had to do it. That's what I felt. 194 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, fourteen is so young. 195 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: I mean at the time when we're all fourteen, I 196 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: think we all thought we were just so old, But 197 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: it's so young. Did you feel pressure to live up 198 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: to any sort of girls in the magazines because now 199 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: everyone's got Instagram and it kind of scares me a 200 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: little bit. Does that kind of did you feel the 201 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: pressure to live up to those these girls and do 202 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: you know, oh no, was it more of a control thing? 203 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, never to look like never to look like anyone. 204 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: I suffered really bad acne. I think I just that 205 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: really affected my self esteem. Yeah, so that was the 206 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: main cause of it. It's suffering from the ACTE. I 207 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: wanted to have to ski like all my friends, but no, 208 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: I know when it's bad to beings to me that 209 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: then it wasn't that big a deal, I think. I mean, 210 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, it was like MySpace and MSN Messenger, But 211 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: I never felt the pressure to look like anyone. I 212 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: always just felt pressure to be perfect, but not comparing 213 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: myself to anyone. I was very odd. 214 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: I don't think that's odd at all. I think that's 215 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: quite normal. 216 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: But such a tough time to navigate, isn't it like 217 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: when you're going through high school when everything's changing And 218 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, while, how did. 219 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: You manage to overcome all of this? 220 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: I took years. I hit it for so long, but 221 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: I one't really knew then you won't have an eating 222 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: problem where I would eat certain things. No one knew 223 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: I was BOLLEMI I was alimic for so long. I 224 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: started to when I moved to Sydney, I started to 225 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: see a psychologist and I finally started to open up 226 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: about it. And then I really got into mindfulness, meditation, 227 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: and I went down more of a spiritual path. I 228 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: always had spirituality kind of growing up, but it was 229 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: more Catholic religious space. I started to turn more universal 230 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: self kind of expressing and finding out about myself. I'm 231 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: just finding out triggers and why I did it, and 232 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: went down the whole you know, family, life path, friends, 233 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: relationships that may have affected me. I why I would 234 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: have done this and that Really Yeah, I educated myself 235 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: on it, and then you know, for you, I still 236 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: had days where I had to when I felt that 237 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: trigger of not being good enough for my body wanting 238 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: to do that because it was so many years of 239 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: using myself like that, I had to create channel it 240 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: to go elsewhere. Would be like, you know, go meditate now, 241 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: or go right, or say something beautiful about yourself, don't 242 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: run to the toilet. It took a long time, and 243 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: you know what I always say, It's like any addiction, 244 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: it never goes away. You just channel it elsewhere, and 245 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: you get addicted to something else, like treating yourself better 246 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: or meditation or exercising. But yeah, I still have really 247 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: bad thoughts when I'm down. I just don't want to 248 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: do that to myself anymore, so I channel it to 249 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: other other area, you could say, And. 250 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: Were you worried at all that appearing on a show 251 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: like The Bachelor, where you receive so much scrutiny and judgment, 252 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: were you worried that that might spark some of those 253 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: feelings again? 254 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: Oh? One, and it did. At the beginning. I I 255 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: went in like I was exercising every day, but I 256 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: wasn't you know what was overly super fit? You know, 257 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: I didn't have a six pack. It's me. I always thought, 258 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: you're the Bachelor. I had to be beautiful, you know, 259 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: fit Galon m'd be averagely. I'm only quite little. But 260 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: to me, I didn't have my ideal bachelorette body. And 261 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: then I was like, you know what, I didn't get 262 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: picked for the way I look and for this, you know, 263 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: amazing bachelorette body that I don't have. I got picked 264 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: because of me. So I am focused on that more. 265 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: But no idead. I often felt prescious through at you know, 266 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: I would try to try to put me in size 267 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: sixes and I wasn't a size six, but by the 268 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: end I was six because I was so stressed. Yeah, 269 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: and then I watched myself just like anyone, and I'd 270 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: worry mainly not about my body weight, but just my 271 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: acme I look and I just like, oh my god, 272 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: or I could notice was my scars. And then I 273 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: just thought, you know, don't be ridiculous. Nobody is perfect, 274 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: and focus on your heart. That's why you're in there. 275 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: It's a find love, not to you know, why would 276 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: I want to pick somebody that only liked me for 277 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: the way I look. 278 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: We all thought you looked absolutely stunning, and as we said, 279 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: you were just saying this, but you were our favorite 280 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: bachelorette because not only we think you're gorgeous, you're funny. 281 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: You're the full package. 282 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: I think that's not to say the other bachelorettes haven't made, 283 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: but you brought such amazing personality. And you know, you 284 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: actually stood up to those dicks in the house because 285 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some kind of contracts you have to 286 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: sign that you know they've got. 287 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: You know, some of the entertaining people have to stay in. 288 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: But I actually thought that in terms of criticism, I 289 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: think people haven't been openly criticizing you as much as 290 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: maybe previous bachelorettes. Have you felt that or have you 291 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: felt a lot of criticism? 292 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: I got so lucky, But then again, I didn't search 293 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: for it because I have some suggars and suffering from 294 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: both of esteem and eating sort of for so long 295 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: back in the day. I don't like to search. You know, 296 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: some people misery likes companies that if you're in a 297 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: feral mood you kind of want to attract, like book 298 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: for more. No, I was really important, and just maybe 299 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: ignorance is blissed too. Since I didn't look for it, 300 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: I didn't see it, but I don't reckon. Many people 301 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: commented on the way I looked at all. I think 302 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: because it wasn't that type of bachelorette. It was just 303 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: really emotional and kind of personality based, like even my 304 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: boys they well, I thought that was a lot of 305 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: people were like little why not? But it was very much. 306 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: They had huge personality. So I was like, and I 307 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: love a personality, I thought, looking but a lot of 308 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: people were like, god, you locked out girlfriend, and I 309 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'm not unless I have low standards. 310 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: Well, I've got to say, as soon as Carlin came on, 311 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: I mean, SOF and I we always played that game, 312 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: and I think you and Eve played it a little 313 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: bit on Google Box, where you'd be like nah nah no. 314 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: We were literally not well, not that we were saying no, 315 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: but I was like, he's clearly the best looking of 316 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: all of them. 317 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: A game. That's the game we'd play. 318 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, were you playing that in your head 319 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: the night they were all coming down to beat you? 320 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, just just by myself, I was said, and wonder 321 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: if I did. That night was so long I probably 322 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: can say I was like, I was like, yeah, girl, 323 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: oh my god. With Carlin, he was just yes, he's 324 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: obviously so good looking, but to me, it was just 325 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: like his presence and how calming he was, and he 326 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: really looked into my eyes, and that feeling was just 327 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: so overwhelming. A lot of the boys were so nervous 328 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: and highly strong, because like such an intimidating night. I 329 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: can't even explain how full on that night is. And 330 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: it's so cold, so everyone's knows and they're cold, and 331 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: then they're just hanging for a drink, but they've been 332 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: waiting around for hours. But he had this like beautiful, 333 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: calming presence. And yeah, usually I wouldn't go for the 334 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: best looking guy because I would think this is so mean, 335 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: but I was kind of thinking, oh, you're probably boring, 336 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: but he wasn't. They didn't show his personality as much 337 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: because they've lost such big, big personalities like Kim and Kieran, 338 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: Jamie and all that. That kind of stole the show 339 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: a bit. But yeah, I know he he looks for 340 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: just a bonus, seriously, Like it's his personality and his 341 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: presence that really really drew me to him. And he 342 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: looked ridiculously good enough that white food, let's say so. 343 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: Well, I just felt like he was discriminated against throughout 344 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: the series because of his looks, because everyone sort of 345 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: judged him as to be like, oh, you're just on 346 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: here for your Instagram and that kind of thing. And 347 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: I suppose we've seen that in the past with The Bachelor, 348 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: a lot of the women often get judged. But I 349 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: don't know, soph did you feel the same thing that 350 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: people were Well, as Andre was saying, I felt like 351 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: they refer that he didn't have much of a personality, 352 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 2: and it is hard to show everyone's personalities, I suppose 353 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 2: in that half an hour time. 354 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 3: But also the Bachelor. 355 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: The Bachelor wants everyone to be shocked at the end 356 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: as well, and I felt like that always, you know, 357 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: it doesn't work in the favor of the winner. Did 358 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: you find that you thought that it was very much 359 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: focused on Tim, wasn't it the last few episodes. 360 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: I think that definitely kept everyone on the edge of 361 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: their seats in terms of who I was going to pick. 362 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: But that wasn't That was because I I didn't know. 363 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: I really didn't know. And I did have to tell 364 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: Carla this, you know, as soon as the show was done, 365 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: and I picked him, and because I didn't want him 366 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: to think that I, you know, was keeping anything from him, 367 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: because he was got to see it in real, you 368 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: know time when you guys were watching it. But I 369 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: had no idea who I was going to kick until 370 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: I stood there on that thing environ and they had 371 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: to send someone down first. That's the name of the game. 372 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: And they said, it's the first person that comes your head. 373 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: Who comes down first doesn't mean that he's the one 374 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: that's going home. And I just Kim and I had 375 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: time to change my mind, and I didn't. I just 376 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: felt like, no, I can't spend I can't spend Carlen home, 377 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: and thank God, because I feel like, you know, I 378 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: will always have a soft spots for Tim. He's, like 379 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: I said, I still stand by the fact that he 380 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: is one of my soulmates. But Carlin is my future. 381 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: You know, there's a future with Carlin. And yeah, but no, 382 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: I think they they edited definitely to be the Tim Show. 383 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: But that's because I didn't even know who I was 384 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: going to pick, so I played a huge part in 385 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: them kind of having that footage where it's like we 386 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: didnt know who's going to pick into the last minute anyway, 387 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: So you. 388 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: Would, well, that's great to hear that you were being 389 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: genuine because often I watch, especially the American Bachelor and Bachelorette. 390 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: Do you watch those? 391 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: No, I have, like in the past, but no, I 392 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: haven't you everything's. 393 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 3: So sensationalized compared to the Australian. 394 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: One, and they're always I could imagine I. 395 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: Wanted to see you guys watch it on Google Box 396 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: because it's I. 397 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: Feel like anyway, but they they're always, oh, they actually 398 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: tell the people that they love both of them, and 399 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: then you never know who they're going to pick. 400 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: So I love that you're pe. 401 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: You know what. 402 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure they would have loved thing do things differently. 403 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: But I always said, if I'm going to be a bachelorette, 404 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: you have to let maybe meet Otherwise I'm not going 405 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: to get anything. I'm just going to be awkward. I'm 406 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: going to try to be someone I'm not and no 407 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: one wants to watch that. So I often would go 408 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: rogue and do what I wanted, and by halfway they 409 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: were like, don't overly, you know, tell Angie what to do, 410 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: because obviously I had rules and things like to follow 411 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: and you know, boxes to tick. They were like, the 412 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: magic happens when Angie gets an idea in her head 413 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: and grows rogue. And they often let me to do 414 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: what I wanted, which is great. Otherwise I would have 415 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: just felt felt trapped and like I had to be 416 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: someone I'm not and that's that would have just everybody 417 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: would have seen through it. People who have followed me 418 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: for years, they would have been like, that's just while 419 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: we're watching this bachelorette, that's not Angie and I devil 420 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: wanted that. 421 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 2: I think that's so true talking about people going Kieran 422 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: seemed to do a lot of what he wanted to do. 423 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: Was he actually fully nude in front of. 424 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: You all, fully nude? Fully nude? I thought when he 425 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: took off his rob but I kept saying to Evan, 426 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: surely not, surely not. She's like, I reckon he would, 427 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, it'll He'll have a little cheese 428 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: during one and we'll just seek He's like what he 429 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: was darker and he thought it was only going to 430 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: be for like twenty minutes. He was naked for like 431 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: four hours and he was just standing there for so long. 432 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: I just kept getting up afooring him drinks. So I 433 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to be drunk because he's got 434 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: three more hours of this. Otherwise he's just going to start. 435 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: It's going to kick in and he's going to be 436 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: like what am I? 437 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: So well during the show, I felt like there's been 438 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: constant speculation of rumors that you didn't end up finding love. 439 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if you felt that, but I felt 440 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: like it was very much that feeling this year, and 441 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: now since you've obviously announced that you're with Carlin, there 442 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: seems to be so much pressure put on for you 443 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: to show how in you are via Instagram. 444 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 3: Have you felt that pressure at all? 445 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit, because the ending is so full, 446 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: and with you know, them editing Kim so well and 447 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: not editing the way I saw him. I mean like, 448 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: obviously they didn't fake any of it. All that stuff happened. 449 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: They just didn't shine so much light on the connection. 450 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: Corlin and I had a bought through shine the light 451 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: on the connection Tim and I had. I was kind 452 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: of like, oh god, you know this could go. There 453 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: wasn't really fifty fifty. It was like sixty forty, like 454 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: everybody wanted Jim doing and then Carlin. So I was 455 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: like I felt this pressure in a way because so 456 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: many people were like, oh, she's made the biggest mistake 457 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: of her life, and it's like, no, I haven't. Yeah, 458 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: people aren't there, you know, they don't understand what actually 459 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: goes on. That's the show. I was watching it as 460 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: a show. I already lived the experience. I already know 461 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: what happened. So yeah, when I left, I was a 462 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: little bit like, you know, I felt like I kind 463 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: of had to prove and then I'm like, well, so 464 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: as long as my friend's family go and Colin friends 465 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: and family, no, and Colin, and I know, I don't 466 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: really overly care what anybody else has to say. I'm 467 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: glad they had they got their show. At the end 468 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: of the day, they didn't get their happy ending, but 469 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: I got mine. And isn't that the basis of the 470 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: show exactly? 471 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: And sometimes you know when you see couples on Instagram 472 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: and they try a bit too hard, you know they're 473 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: posting these love Yeah, I feel like that's the first 474 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: sign that a relationship probably isn't going too well. 475 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm true honest to like the people that even said 476 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: which would probably get me in trouble. People are like, 477 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 1: you know, you and Colin fighting, I'd be like, it's 478 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: still it's a real relationship now. I'd be like, yeah, 479 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: he gives me the ship sometimes, Oh my god, Colin surging, 480 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: It's like, it's a real relationship now. I'm not going 481 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: to pretend everything's okay all the time when it's gone. 482 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 1: We just went through a bloody roller coaster and then 483 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: we had to hide for three months and then we're 484 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: just thrown in the public space. But everybody was judge 485 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: the shit out of us. Of course, there's going to 486 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: be times where we really really struggle that we communicate 487 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: so well, but yeah, we have some Sarry Crockers. We 488 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: have days where we're just like, this is so hardcore, 489 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: but we talk it out. We don't shut down, which 490 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: is good. That was growth like that because I could 491 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: see how it feel really hard for couples after this 492 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: show because it's hardcore, Oh for sure. 493 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 2: I mean even when you look at Matt Agnews series 494 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: and they constantly were showing him, you know, humping, well, 495 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: try humping Abbey on the beach, I was like, wow, 496 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: that's going to be a hard episode to watch for 497 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: those two. 498 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, everybody signs up, so you know, no 499 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: one's forced to do it, but you don't realize how 500 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: hard it's going to be, and you don't really think 501 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: about what Australia is going to think of you when 502 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: you're living the experience and throwing yourself in there to 503 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: find love. I mean, that's my case. I never thought 504 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: what Australia think of me when I was filming those 505 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: nine weeks because I just wanted to get through the 506 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: days and make connections and you know, look after my heart. 507 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: During the process. But yeah, you just watch it and 508 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: you're just like, oh my gosh, this is you don't 509 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: think about that and you've got to have the right 510 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: too mentally to be able to deal with it. For sure. Yeah, 511 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: that would have been so hard for Chelsea to watch that, 512 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: but it is it is. It is showing they did 513 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: do it. So it's kind of like it's it's up 514 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: for they can show whatever they want at the end 515 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: of the day. 516 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: And many of our listeners would have first fell in 517 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: love with you, of course on Google Box. You appeared 518 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: on the show along Evie, but there was also a 519 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 2: third housemate who we didn't get to see, your best 520 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: friend Tom, and you of course acted as Tom's care 521 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: for three and a half years. 522 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: Can you tell us a little bit about what that 523 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: time was like in your life. 524 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: Oh, that was a magical time. It was a hardcore 525 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: time obviously, because you know, I went from moving to 526 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: Sydney in Turning my slight off in the film television world, 527 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: so I moved Therefore, I wanted to produce and eventually direct, 528 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: and you know I had all these different ideas and yeah, 529 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: I was you know, partying because I was only young 530 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: in Turning working as a dinning or doing chromo and 531 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: then when I met you, I was just convinced me 532 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: into moving in. So I went from this young twenty 533 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: one twenty two year old girl. So then kind of 534 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: being like a not a parent because Tom's older than me, 535 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: but you know, being a full time support worker but 536 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: also best friend and house mate. So it just makes 537 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: me kind of not grow up quicker, but really, you know, 538 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: put my caring hat on, and yeah, we kind of 539 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: had our own family. It was like being easy with 540 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: the moms and dads and then we had our had 541 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: our Tom, and then we had our seven at baby 542 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: seven at a time, rescue dogs, let's go on environment. 543 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: There was always a lot of people coming and going, 544 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: but it was so magical. I learned so much about myself. 545 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: And you know, I've traveled with Tom Sabali twice and 546 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: We've been to London together and he comes and stays 547 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: on the Sunshine Coast and we stay in apartments and 548 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, we go. He's just like a family member 549 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: to me. Now. Yeah, it was a real Ironsina and 550 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't change a thing. Learning how to look after 551 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: somebody with the intellectual disability and diabetes is it's hard 552 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: work because he could wake up in the middle of 553 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: the night scareaming bloody birder and you know, from a 554 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: hyperoguo semic attack, and I'd have to you know, he 555 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: would kind of have to pin him down, and I'd 556 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: have to put food in his mouth, and then we 557 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: have to get the needles into him. So it's it 558 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: could be quite full lot of times. But then other times, 559 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, you just learn to live in the moment 560 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: because that's how Tom lived, and you learn so much 561 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: about getting over stuff because there's just more to life 562 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: and worrying about, you know, being stuck in traffic Sydney traffic, 563 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: or not getting the new iPhone, you know, stuff that 564 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: people lose their minds over. It just made me realize 565 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: that more. I'm kind of just live in the moment, 566 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: which was exactly what I needed being a youngster moving 567 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: to that wild while Sitney lifestyle. 568 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: And the goggle Box, of course, seems to kind of 569 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: pride itself on showing diverse families in Australia. Did it 570 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: annoy you a little bit that they chose not to 571 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: include Tom as part of your family in the show? 572 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: No, I know, the thing that was a lot of 573 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: pressure for goggle Box because it just seems so much hate, like, 574 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: oh my god, what's the show? It sounds rubbish. So 575 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: they didn't want it to be that show where they're 576 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: putting in I don't know how to say this without 577 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: coming across that I don't know. They say, I know 578 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: what you do, and you know exactly what you you 579 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. They don't want it to be 580 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: that show where they're just putting in a bunch of 581 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: minorities to sell it to people are like, oh, you 582 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: know that. That's how they felt to serve. And also 583 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: Tom was one do it because he would not want 584 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: to sit for four hours watching the amount of crap 585 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: we've watched. Sometimes amongst the amazing shows, we watched a 586 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: lot of crap. He'd be like, I don't like it. 587 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: I want to play my video games, I want to 588 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: eat like good. Only we wanted to live his best life. 589 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: We wouldn't have wanted to hold him down because that's 590 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: not the way, That's not what we're there to do. 591 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: You know, when he's half my support workers, we're not 592 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: going to force him to do stuff. Plus Tom's very 593 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: hard to understand, So every time Tom would have spoke, 594 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: we either or I would have had to repeat what 595 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: he said, because only close people to Tom can really 596 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: understand what he's thinking and saying, so there'd be some 597 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: titles or we'd have to repeat everything. So there was 598 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: kind of reasons as to why Tom couldn't be apart, 599 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: but there was no resentment there at all. If anything, 600 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: Tom would have resented asked if we forced he watched 601 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: that much television. 602 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: Too much Bachelor for him. I was gonna say, what, 603 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: oh God, what's. 604 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: The reality of actually being on google Box? Because I mean, 605 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: as I said, we all love the show, but do 606 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: people recognize you on the street. 607 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: I suppose when you were on google Box. 608 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, when Edie and I went together, especially when we 609 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: were with like Sisy, our big bulldog, and the two 610 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: Pomeranians we had at the time that are both passed 611 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: now rest in peace, our little princes. They were kind 612 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: of like the original google Box dogs. Yeah, we were together, 613 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: people would buying the dog cart. So when we went 614 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: to dog pubs and stuff. Even now, people will still 615 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: yell out goggle Box girls, and a lot of people 616 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: it is, and a lot of people at my book 617 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: signings will still say we just loved you on google Box, 618 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, They're like, we watched the other shows, 619 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: but we missed you so much on goggle Box. Are 620 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: you coming back? I get that question every time I'm 621 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: out and about usually when are you going back to 622 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: goggle Box? And I'm like, guys, been here and they 623 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: ain't taking us back. Once you leave and do other shows, 624 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: they not having your back. 625 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: Were you interested to see how they would actually cover 626 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: the Bachelorette because I watched, you know, I was really 627 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: interested to see how they would tackle it. 628 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: Yes, I was interested in Slash, excited, slash, a bit nervous. 629 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: You know. 630 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm still pretty close with all of them. Some are 631 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: talking more than others, but that's just like any work, 632 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: you know, friends, situation, you talk to some people more 633 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: than others. I've got a lot of support, mainly from 634 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: my goggle block, but yeah, I saw from the jungle 635 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: some of them weren't that supportive of a little bit like, oh, 636 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: you know, here we go. But I sat on my 637 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: couch for four years the same to other people, so 638 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, comma whatever it was my time to cover. 639 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: And just how rigorous is the filming process? I mean, 640 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: I suppose like for a lot of people watching at home. 641 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: Is there a cameraman actually there or is it a 642 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: camera setup or what exactly does that look like? 643 00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: In your house? 644 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: There is an entire crew, so there's really like five people, 645 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: but they're all set up. It was my at the time, 646 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: so they do they operate everything from another room, so 647 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: they'll have two cameras, but there's not a cameraman behind. 648 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: So I mean after the second season, you don't even 649 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: notice if the cameras are there. And we did it 650 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: for four years, so it was just like second h 651 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: to us. They're lighting and sounding into a mic and stuff, 652 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: but nothing there to make you, you know, overly feel 653 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: like you're not, you know, in the comfort of your 654 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: home watching television with your friends or family or seven 655 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: rescue dogs. 656 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: Were you ever concerned about what you might say if 657 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: it came back to buy you because I know, we 658 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: always joke that our family would be amazing, that our 659 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: dad would just be too offensive in his comments. 660 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 3: From you know, the shows he watches. Yeah, are you 661 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 3: have a bit worried? 662 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 663 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: At first I think we were a little bit, and 664 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: then with time because it was just like God, if 665 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: I have to send to everything, I said there, there's 666 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: be no point me talking because my brain to mouth 667 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: ratio is like quite off sometimes and so as my 668 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: heart to mouth ratio. So I usually say what I 669 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: think and then later I'll go, oh, my god, oh 670 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: that probably wasn't right. But they never showed me saying that, 671 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: so they just show that's the thing. I'd say. 672 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: No. 673 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: We were never allowed at to be around the celebrities 674 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: that we would speak about, so we felt really protected. 675 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: And then when we got into the world of you know, 676 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 1: after the Jungle and especially Bachelorette, I'm working with all 677 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: these people I spoke about, I do get a little 678 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: bit nervous because I'm like, for four years I watched 679 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: you and they were like, yeah, and I remember you 680 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: said this, and I was like, I don't remember. I 681 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: just love. 682 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: And one question I suppose people are interested to find 683 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: out is how will you and Carlin be spending Christmas 684 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 2: this year? Is your first Christmas together? Is the pressure 685 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: on to see families and make it a special one? 686 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: We were Yeah, we were originally going to do his 687 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: family fos and then mine, but this was at a 688 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: time where it was like still super fresh, and I 689 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: thought to myself, if I was dating somebody in the 690 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: real world after three months have been together. Even in 691 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: the normal setup, I would never be like, again, I'm 692 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: going to your house to christ and you're kind of fine, 693 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: like I wouldn't. But I did feel this pressure of, 694 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: like you after the show, you almost feel like you're engaged, 695 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: and I had this I was putting pressure on it, 696 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: which is not like me to do that, and I 697 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: kind of I'm speaking to Georgia love actually, and I 698 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: said to her, I just feel like I need to 699 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: not rush it, but keep that flow of the show 700 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: kind of alive. You know, there's a high, intense, bold feeling. 701 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: She's like, no, you're at a real world now, girl, 702 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 1: do what you would do. And I'm like, oh god, 703 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: I'd take it. Let's go back to basics and let's 704 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: just date and still be boyfriend girlfriend, but like just 705 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: be normal. So he's I'm not going there for Christmas, 706 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: but he's coming puts very infamous Kent Boxing Day, which 707 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: I need to bribe all the boys on the show about. 708 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, your don't behavior. Wo'd be coming 709 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: to the Kent Boxing Day and everybody was like a 710 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: joke we had in the mansion, so Yeah, he's coming 711 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: for Boxing Day and we're going to spend Boxing Day 712 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: and up until New Year's Day together. 713 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 3: Oh that's so nice. 714 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 2: And just lastly, so when I am massive Christmas fan, 715 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: so we have to ask are you a big Christmas 716 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: fan or can you sort of You're not you're not 717 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 2: that into it? 718 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 3: Not tragic like us? 719 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, I love Christmas so much. I've 720 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: already been to the Contrary Christmas Carols and then the 721 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: next night I do the Karamunday Lake Christmas Carols and life. 722 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: And we've got like Christmas Light looking we're going to 723 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: do we go to that like what's that religious one 724 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: down in a dream that they put on that big really? Oh, 725 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: we have it, I know. 726 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: All I'm such as for Christmas Treo, do you have 727 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: a real Christmas tree or a fake? 728 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: No, we have a thing. 729 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all right. 730 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: My family passes too, like we've got too much stuff 731 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: going on, and there's a way will we be able 732 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: to get a real Christmas tree up in horror? But no, 733 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: I love Christmas. I love Christmas so much. Yeah, I know. 734 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: And just lastly, obviously you've got your book out at 735 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: the moment, what other exciting things you have planned for 736 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 2: next year? 737 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: And where can people get a copy of your book 738 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 3: as well? 739 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: I think my book is still here, there and everywhere, 740 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: which is great. Again, I like to say very clearly 741 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: that my book is in like a biography. I know, 742 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: I'm only like twelve years old and I haven't lived 743 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: a lot of lives to be like, listen to my 744 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 1: story of my life. It's more like, you know, life lessons, 745 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: what to do, what not to do for your best mate. 746 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: You know, I've been through some stuff. I've learned. This 747 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: is how I got navigated through some things. This is 748 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: what you shouldn't do. I recommend, but again, I'm not 749 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: a doctor or a spiritual guru. Kind of Yeah, it's 750 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: a nice, little lighthearted read. You can read a lot about, 751 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, living with people with the disability, rescuing dog, relationships, friendship, 752 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure it's still online book Tropia Dimmicks, 753 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: and I think it's a lot like Target. Everything. Target 754 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: sounds like a present. It's a cute little Christmas present 755 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: and it's really easy reading my mom's goat done and 756 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: read it in like an hour, put it down. I 757 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: know that's my mom that's been embarrassing. 758 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: Well, if your mom didn't like it, would be a 759 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: bit concerned. 760 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 3: She's loving it as well. 761 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: At least I've got my mom and my number one. 762 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for joining us. We've had 763 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 2: such a lovely time chatting with you and we wish 764 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 2: you all the best. 765 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 3: But I hope you have a nice Christmas. 766 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: Guy. It's merry Christmas and joy the festivities. And watch 767 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: this face because there's some other exciting things popping up 768 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: your full secret Squirrel, but time will reveal. 769 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so nearly said that at the same time. Sorry, 770 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: we can't wait to find out. 771 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: Thank you again, Well, thank you so much for listening 772 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 2: to another episode of Outspoken. 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