1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Sophie Torbah and coming up on today's show, a YouTube 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: family flee the country ahead of the kids' social media 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: band has Olivia Rodgers rekindled her friendship with stylist Pulta 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Saci and the afr's Iwatering Young Rich List. But first, 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: Matt Zakowski has been spotted on a second date with 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: adelaide normie Emily Lawson. Despite hosing down relationship speculation on 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: his podcast, The pair attended Derby Day together alongside a 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: group of friends. Kate, this one surprised me because I 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: thought she really messed things up on the first date, 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: because it was only three weeks ago when she essentially 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: hard launched her relationship with Matt on her Instagram story 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: and Matt didn't seem happy about it on his podcast. No, 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: he jumped on his own podcast and essentially watered down 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: those rumors and always had a bit of a laugh 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: about it with his co host Anna McAvoy, saying that 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: people were getting a bit ahead of themselves and saying 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: he was quite shocked to see that image floating around. Well, 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: it seemed like they were kind of inferring Emily was 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: a bit of a clout chaser, because Anni made a 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: comment that Emily should have kept the story to her 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: close friends list. Well. Also, Matt did reiterate that while 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Emily was a nice girl, it definitely wasn't a hard 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: launch and he was very much single. I wonder if 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: they discussed social media etiquette this time, because Emily ended 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: up posting another mirror selfie, but this time her and 28 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: Matt's heads were cropped out of the photo, so it's 29 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: just of their bodies. Yeah, and you could kind I mean, 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: you couldn't really make out who it was. However, she 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: backed it up on her Instagram story by re sharing 32 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: another story that she was tagged in. So in this story, 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: the person films and pans around, and there's Emily and 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: then there's some friends, and then there's Matt. So it 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: was obvious they were together. Well, they also backed it 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: up by sharing individual photos in the same hotel room, 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: which clearly one another had taken. Yeah. Well, someone commented 38 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: under Emily's photo camera person did well, to which she replied, 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: he's a pro. I mean, he really is a pro. 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure he took a lot of Tammy's content back 41 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: in the day. You know what, tall people are also 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: very good at taking photos, so you get the right angles. 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: When these photos started emerging, I was like, oh my god, 44 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: imagine if Tammy Hembro runs into them, because she was 45 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: there at Derby Day being dressed by Paul Versaci. But 46 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, hang on, man, Emily, they're 47 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: sitting out on the lawn with a general public like 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Tammy's in a marquee. We are going to chat about 49 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: this more on Friday Show, but I want to point 50 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: out that today is the Melbourne Cup and I am 51 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: really shocked at how many influencers are quite happy to 52 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: be posting at horse racing events. I feel like five 53 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: years ago there was a huge movement of saying nap 54 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: to the Cup, and now it's kind of like, oh, 55 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: everyone's got about it whatever, let's just attend. Who cares. Yeah, 56 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: it's so interesting to see how that's all changed. I 57 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: thought the Grand Prix was the replacement for the Melbourne 58 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: Cup where everyone gets dressed up, but it seems like 59 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: people want a second opportunity to do that during the year. 60 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: Today I'm leaving my wife and kids and moving from 61 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: Australia all the way to the UK by myself. 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: A family of Perth YouTubers have announced they're moving to 63 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: the UK to avoid Australia's upcoming social media ban for children. 64 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: The Empire family are packing up and leaving their hometown, 65 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: all in a bid to save their fourteen year old 66 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: daughters platform before it's suspended. Kay, before we get into it, 67 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: can you get listeners up to speed with the ban? 68 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: So Australia is implementing a world first social media ban 69 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: for children, so a lot of eyes are on Australia 70 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: at the moment. The ban is designed to protect young 71 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: people from the harmful impact of social media. Now, as 72 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: of the tenth of December, children under sixteen can no 73 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: longer have accounts on major social media platforms. Now, the 74 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: onus is on social media businesses to take reasonable steps 75 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: to prevent children from using their platforms. So this means 76 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: they need to detect and deactivate accounts of users under sixteen, 77 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: as well as stop them from creating accounts. 78 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: Now. 79 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: Platforms that don't comply could face fines of almost fifty 80 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: million dollars. Now. Those platforms include Facebook, Instagram, Chat, TikTok 81 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: x and also YouTube Now. Originally YouTube was actually exempt 82 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: from the ban, but that decision was reversed earlier this year, 83 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: so children under sixteen will still be able to view 84 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: videos on YouTube, but they can't have their own account, 85 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: and that means they won't be able to upload content 86 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: or interact on the platform at all. A lot of 87 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: kids were hoping that YouTube wouldn't be included on the list, 88 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: and I'm guessing YouTube being included in this ban as 89 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: what has pushed the Empire family over the edge to 90 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: move to London. I have never heard of the Empire family. 91 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: Are they someone I should be watching? Look? I wasn't 92 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: familiar with them either until this story went viral. So 93 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: they're a family of four from Perth. The family is 94 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: made up of mothers Beck and Beck Yes they have 95 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: the same name, and their children seventeen year old son 96 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: Presley and fourteen year old daughter Charlie. Now. They launched 97 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: the YouTube channel in twenty eighteen after their then primary 98 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: school age kids beg them to make it. Ironically, the 99 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: mothers were initially apprehensive to allow their kids online due 100 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: to the dangers, but they finally gave in. Now This 101 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: move clearly paid off because over the last seven years, 102 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: they've attracted six million followers across their combined social media platforms, 103 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: and content creation is now their full time job. The 104 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: kids now have branched off and have their own social 105 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: media platforms, so they've got their own YouTube channels, their 106 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: own Instagram accounts, and Bet claims to manage their teenager's 107 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: accounts entirely, including saying that she films, edits and monitors 108 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: the comments. I mean, we have to take that on 109 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: face value, but do you think it's realistic to think 110 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: that those teenagers don't have any interaction with their own account. Oh, 111 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: the kids are definitely jumping on and having a look 112 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: at the comments and engaging with people. I mean, their 113 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: mum may also have the logins, but I'm sure that 114 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: they both have logins. I mean, surely seventeen year old 115 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: Presley has access to his own account, and I would 116 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: say fourteen year old Charlie does as well. Now she 117 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: is the one that's actually affected by Australia's new social 118 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: media rules. The band means that she is set to 119 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: lose five hundred and thirty six thousand YouTube subscribers and 120 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty eight Instagram followers alongside two hundred 121 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: and eighty four TikTok followers. So could they just pause 122 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: their account though, and then they could get it back 123 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: when they are over sixteen or does it wipe them completely? Well, 124 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: it depends on the platform. Some platforms are allowing accounts 125 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: to be archived and then when you're over sixteen you 126 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: can reactivate them, whereas others are just completely deleting them. 127 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: I think it's a bit unfair to delete them, particularly 128 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: because social media is big business these days, and whilst 129 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: perhaps unethical to do so, these children have still cultivated 130 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: a huge following through hard work. I wonder if you 131 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: can transfer the ownership to your parent. It will be 132 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: very interesting to see how this all works in the 133 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: real world and where the people will be able to 134 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: protest against certain pages disappearing. It will be because at 135 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: the moment there's not a blanket rule. The owners is 136 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: all on the social media companies to come up with 137 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: a plan, and they don't all have to operate from 138 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: the same plan. Now. In terms of how the Empire 139 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: family announced this news to their fans, they uploaded a 140 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: TikTok where they shared that Beck was on the way 141 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: to London to look for a house for the family, 142 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: so she left her wife and kids at home while 143 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: she did that, and in the voiceover, she spoke about 144 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: the difficult decision to relocate to save Charlie's social media 145 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: account now. She claimed that they came to the decision 146 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: after Charlie decided that she no longer wanted to attend 147 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: normal school and would finish school online. And because of 148 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: that decision, Beck said they now have the freedom to 149 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: live anywhere in the world. Let's take a listen. 150 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: We're really lucky that social media is a full time job. 151 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: But what do you guys think of the new band 152 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: that's coming in for Australian for under sixteen. It's lucky 153 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: for Charlie. She's only fourteen, but we're going to be 154 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: living in London, and she's a British citizen as well, 155 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: so it won't actually affect her. It's only for Australians 156 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: under sixteen years old, And to be completely honest with 157 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: you guys, it's actually one of the reasons we decided 158 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: to leave Australia. 159 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: This might sound crazy, but I can kind of see 160 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: why they're doing this. Even if you can freeze your 161 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: account and save your followers. By the time you jump 162 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: back on there in a couple of years time, those 163 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: people still aren't going to be potentially engaged in your 164 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: content anymore, because you really have to grow with your 165 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: audience and keep putting out constant content in order to 166 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: stay in people's minds. So in Charlie's situation in two 167 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: years time, when she comes back to social media when 168 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: she's sixteen, people probably won't care about her anymore because 169 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: there's been this whole period of her life which they've 170 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: missed out on. Yeah, but I personally feel like a 171 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: fourteen year old shouldn't be having a career on social media. 172 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: I understand that she's cultivated this following off the back 173 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: of the Family Channel, but the fact that the government 174 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 1: is implementing these bands shows just how damaging social media 175 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: is to people under sixteen, and I mean people over 176 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: sixteen as well. So how damaging is it going to 177 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: be for her mental health when she loses a platform 178 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: that she could potentially build a huge career off. Well 179 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: in comparison to uprooting her whole life to move to 180 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: a different country away from all her friends and you know, 181 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: the place that she grew up in. I mean, that's 182 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: a massive life change, and I think in terms of 183 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: social media, you can be deplatformed in the blink of 184 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: an eye. Your TikTok can get deleted, you can be canceled. 185 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: I understand that it would be such a big deal 186 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: as a kids getting your platform of hundreds of thousands 187 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,479 Speaker 1: of followers taken away from you, But it's pretty extreme 188 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: to uproot your whole life. Oh I'm not saying it's 189 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: not extreme, but from a business perspective, I can see 190 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: why it'd be worthwhile for them to keep this platform around. 191 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: I think this is what's upset a lot of people 192 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: because it's like, well, are you thinking of your daughter 193 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: or are you thinking from a business perspective? Because the 194 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: moms still have their own account, the son can have 195 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: his account. Why can't they operate on their own social 196 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: media accounts and just keep Charlie off it for the 197 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: next two years because clearly she's probably cracked that behind 198 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: closed doors and thinks, well, this is unfair that my 199 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: brother gets to go on there. He's only a couple 200 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: of years older than me. My moms get to do 201 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: it now. As you would expect, this video attracted a 202 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: huge response, a lot of people agreed with uk and 203 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: so that they couldn't believe that the family was uprooting 204 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: their kids' lives to continue one of their child's social 205 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: media careers. One user wrote, moving because of the social 206 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: media ban is ridiculous. That ban is one of the 207 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: best things to happen in Australia now. Beck replied saying, 208 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: we're not actually against the ban. We aren't naive to 209 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: the fact that there are some real problems for kids 210 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: on social media. But those people who know us and 211 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: follow us, no, we travel often for work and we 212 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: were looking to move before the ban was confirmed. We 213 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: were already leaving and decided to leave before the ban begun. 214 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean that contradicts what she said in the video though, 215 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: because she said, to be completely honest with you guys, 216 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: it's actually one of the reasons we decided to leave Australia. Now, 217 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: this story ended up making mainstream media and Beck was 218 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: subsequently interviewed by Mama Mia and she said when they 219 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: heard the band was actually happening, they had to come 220 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: up with a solution to keep Charlie online because she 221 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: loves it. Now Charlie was also interviewed and she said 222 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: that a blanket approach was wrong and that she doesn't 223 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: think it will stop teens from using social media. Her 224 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: mother chimed in, saying, the Internet is not going away 225 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: and we need to teach kids how to use it responsibly. 226 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: I think that the social media ban is a step 227 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: that we need to take, and it's going to be 228 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: a very positive one. The issue lies, though, with the 229 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: children who've already grown up on social media and who 230 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: already have accounts. They're going to find this ban very difficult, 231 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: and it's going to be very tough for all of 232 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: the platforms to actually deactivate their accounts. I would hate 233 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: to be the parents of these teenagers that are getting 234 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: kicked off social media. Would absolutely be a nightmare dealing 235 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: with them, because let's be honest, they're all addicted to 236 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: social media just like we are. I mean, I would 237 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: find it really hard if someone was like, hang on, 238 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: you can't go on it anymore. I also think that 239 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: there is going to be a lot of pressure on 240 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: the parents to make sure that this band sticks with 241 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: their kids and they're not finding other ways to get 242 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: around it. Well, in saying that there aren't any penalties 243 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: for kids that use social media, all the penalties are 244 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: directed at the social media companies. I think what isn't 245 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: helping this situation is the uncertainty around how platforms are 246 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: actually implementing the ban, because even though we're so close 247 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: to it happening, we still don't know how it's taking effect. 248 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: There's been speculation the platforms could potentially use facial recognition 249 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: technology or even have official ID checks. These proposed methods 250 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: have sparked a lot of fears around data privacy breaches 251 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: and the accuracy of age verification software. Now the government 252 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: has come out and said social media platforms aren't required 253 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: to use any specific technologies, and they're also not required 254 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: to enforce government ID checks to prove age. Instead, they've 255 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: been told they must offer practical alternatives. I feel like 256 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: it's a bit of a cop out that the government 257 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: aren't being more hands on at telling social media companies 258 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: what they need to do and helping them come up 259 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: with a solution. It's kind of like they don't want 260 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: to be the bad guys and enforce these strict protocols. 261 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: But I mean, realistically, how are social media platforms meant 262 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: to do it? Otherwise you have your own mydald, no 263 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: way is that time of year when we marvel at 264 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: just how much bank some influencers make. Late last week, 265 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: the Australian Financial Review released their list of Australia's Richest 266 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: forty and under and there were some familiar names on 267 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: the list. Now, in order to qualify in twenty twenty five, 268 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: you need a fortune of at least forty four million 269 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: dollars kate. Now, the collective wealth of the top one 270 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: hundred young Australians is forty five billion dollars, which is 271 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. That is an eye watering figure. And obviously 272 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: we're looking at this from an influencer perspective, but twenty 273 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: eight billion of those dollars was actually from the tech sector, 274 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: so the influence has actually fared quite low on the 275 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: list in comparison. Well, there is a bit of a 276 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: crossover with that because the majority of influencers who made 277 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: the list all have fitness tech platforms. So Kayla, it's 278 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: seen as took out top spot for fitness influencers, coming 279 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: in at thirty eight with one hundred and seventy six 280 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: million dollars. I love how her ex fiance and former 281 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: business partner Toby Pierce was ranked just above her with 282 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy nine million, Like, I wonder how 283 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: they work that out. Well, he has a number of 284 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: other businesses. He's got a lot of fingers in other piles. 285 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: So does Kayla. We heard recently that she owns petrol 286 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: stations and medical centers, so obviously his other businesses are 287 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: just doing slightly better than hers. Then there was Emily 288 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: sky Anderson in sixty second place with one hundred and 289 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: seven million dollars, followed by Tammy Hembro in ninetieth spot 290 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: with fifty eight million, and then Steph Claire Smith rounded 291 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: off the one hundred places with forty four million dollars. 292 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: I always wonder by Laura Henshaw is always missed off 293 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: these lists because she is Steph Lesmith's business partner. She 294 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: presumably has around the same money as Steph. So is 295 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: it a thing you can actually opt out of? Yeah, 296 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: well I think so, because your financial wealth is your 297 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: own business. Obviously they're having to provide these figures to 298 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: the AFR. Well, it's interesting you say that because the 299 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: AFR included a little disclaimer about how they calculate people's wealth. 300 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: So the evaluations are calculated using publicly available information. Including 301 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: measuring share prices. So it makes me think perhaps the 302 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: individuals aren't contacted and put themselves forward for the advertiser 303 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: had their own version of the Rich lif which I 304 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: don't think that they actually researched properly. I think they 305 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: just ranked people wherever they wanted to rank them, because 306 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: the shameless girls were in there, and they have spoken 307 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: before about how they don't publicly outline how much money 308 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: their business makes and they don't feel comfortable to go 309 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: into it, I assume because they want to maintain a 310 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: relatability with their audience. Yeah, so basically they just go, Okay, 311 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: who are people that have a public platform and look 312 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: like they're doing well. All right, we'll put them on 313 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: the list and rank them where we see because obviously 314 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: these lists get a lot of engagement and a lot 315 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: of clicks. Well, back to the afr's list, Roxy Jsanko's husband, 316 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: Oliver Curtis, debut in twelfth position with an estimated fortune 317 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: of four hundred and forty four million dollars. What is 318 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: it that he does again? So he is now the 319 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: co founder and CEO of an Australian AI infrastructure company 320 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: called Firmis, And this is an absolute monumental turnaround for him, 321 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: considering that he was jailed in twenty sixteen for insider trading. Wow, 322 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: it was Roxy on this list as well. No, she 323 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: wasn't well. She shut down her PR business, Sweaty Betty 324 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,239 Speaker 1: for a number of years when she moved to Singapore 325 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: for Oliver's business, which I can see why now after 326 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: hearing how much money he's earned, it makes sense why 327 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: they've sent Pixie off to that expensive Swiss boarding school. 328 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: Did you see all the presents she got when she 329 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: visited home? I did. It wasn't surprising because they are 330 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: known for having the most extravagant birthday wish lists and 331 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: Christmas lists. Her sweet sixteen is going to be huge. Well, 332 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: her past birthdays I've noticed have actually been quite subdued 333 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: in relation to the other ones. Maybe it's no longer 334 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: cool to have a big show off party. She will 335 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: have a massive sixteenth, especially when the dad's worth nearly 336 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars far out. US influencer Kate Cassidy 337 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: has shared what she says is a sign from her 338 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: late boyfriend Liam Payne after she was involved in a 339 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: car crash last week. Now, the twenty six year old 340 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: shared a video on Instagram revealing she'd been involved in 341 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: the accident. So the real began with the caption how 342 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: it started and showed her getting into a bright blue Lamborghini. 343 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: It then cut to footage of the cars front badly damaged, 344 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: with the caption how it ended, and she added lesson 345 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: learn don't let your girlfriend drive your brand new car now. 346 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: The current question belonged to Kate's friend, Alexandra Gale's boyfriend. Thankfully, 347 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: no one was injured in the crash, but it instopped 348 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: the media running with very sensationalized headlines. A number of 349 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: publications made readers have to click to the story to 350 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: find out if Kate was okay, while other publications almost 351 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: made it sound like the couple were cursed with bad luck. Yeah, 352 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: it was really gross. I kept seeing this pop up 353 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: on Facebook, probably because I am a huge one direction fan. 354 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, this hasn't been in my and 355 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, is she okay? And 356 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: I just thought it was really sick the way they 357 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: were plastering photos of her and limb and sort of 358 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: eluding that something and tragic had happened to her as well. 359 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: That is gross. Now, following the accident, Kate believes she 360 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: received a sign from Lin and anyone who follows her 361 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: knows that she's really into numerology. Like Taylor Swift level 362 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: that she is into numerology, and she often posts little 363 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: signs to her Instagram story that she believes are from Lim, 364 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: in particular the angel number four four four, which she 365 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: also ended up getting tattooed on her hand. Now, in numerology, 366 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: four four four is a sign that the angels are 367 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: with you and they are going to guide you step 368 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: by step. Now, I am not shitting you, but Kate 369 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: received a police crash number which she ended up posting 370 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: on her Instagram, which ended in four four four. Now, 371 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: what are the chances of that? Look, I have to 372 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: be skeptical here. I think if you're looking out for 373 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: particular numbers and signs all the time, then you're going 374 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: to see them because you're going to read into things 375 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: a lot. It's pretty freaky though. I mean, I think 376 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: that if there's something that gives you peace and makes 377 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: you feel better, then go for it. Yeah, I agree. 378 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not judging. I mean, believe what you want, 379 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: but I do some times think if there is a 380 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: number that you're always focused on, you're obviously going to 381 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: notice it a lot more if hears. Olivia Rodgers and 382 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: her former stylist Paul for Saci otherwise known as Style 383 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: by Bloom, may have rekindled their friendship. So the start 384 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: of this year, rumors were swelling that the former besties 385 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: had a massive buster which led them to unfollow each other. Now, 386 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: the telltale sign was when Olivia stopped working with Paul 387 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: all together. I feel like she was the one that 388 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: made him big on Instagram, Like no one really knew 389 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: who he was before he started working with her. Well, 390 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: because now he works with a lot of top Ozzie 391 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: influencers and also a lot of the wives and girlfriends 392 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: of AFL players. He dressed a lot of them for 393 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: the Brown Low. Well more recently, Tammy hembro for Derby Dayly. 394 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: That was a nassive yet for him, Tammy spent the 395 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: whole weekend hanging out with Paul and Paul's boyfriend and 396 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: tagging him well. Funnily enough, Paul's boyfriend's name is Bail Smith, 397 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: so very close to Bailey Smith. So the media were 398 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: running with these headlines. Tammy Tambo reveals surprise relationship updated. 399 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: She poses with Bail Smith at Derby Day, so they 400 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: were acting as if Tammy had moved on with a 401 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: guy with a very similar name to her ex flame 402 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: Bailey Smith. That it was actually Paul for Sarchi's boyfriend is hilarious. Well, 403 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: getting back to Olivia and Paul, the reason why people 404 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: think that things are back on between them is due 405 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: to a comment that Paul left on one of Olivia's 406 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: recent videos. So she posted a real showcasing her Spring 407 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: carnival looks from the archives, and she asked her followers 408 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: which were their favorites. Now. Paul decided to comment on 409 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: this post. He wrote, so many faves with star emojis. 410 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: What do you think, Kate Well? I feel like when 411 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: Olivia addressed the Paul situation earlier this year, she kind 412 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: of left the door open. She spoke about how they're 413 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: not working together because he now lives in Queensland, but 414 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: she's never said, oh, we're not friends. That was just 415 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: sort of the impression that everyone took by it. What 416 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 1: do you think? And you don't unfollow someone if you're 417 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: still rooting for them and want to be friends with them. 418 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: I think that maybe they could just be exchanging pleasantries 419 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: at the moment and pretending to be nice to one another, 420 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: but obviously following each other again, comments, well, I feel 421 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: like by sharing some of her past looks that Paul 422 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: put together, it was almost like extending an olive branch 423 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: to him, because he did style her for a number 424 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: of these horse racing events. Do we think that Olivia 425 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: wants him back in terms of his styling ability, Well, 426 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: maybe she sees him working with all these other top 427 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: influencers and she's like, oh, I mean he is good. 428 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: He I mean, it's not hard to make o Livia 429 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: Rodgers look good, but he did do a good job 430 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: of it. Melbourne influencer beck Lomas has announced the arrival 431 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: of her baby boy Tommy, the first time. Mum shared 432 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: the news to her one hundred and thirty thousand followers 433 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: on Instagram, saying the C section was a good decision, 434 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: with her son's head circumference measuring a whopping thirty seven centimeters, 435 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: which for those playing at home play him in the 436 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: seventy fifth to ninetieth percentile for their heads. Oh, as babies, 437 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: we had very big heads. We were in the ninetieth 438 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: percentile as well, and we were prem so all Beck 439 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: predicted all along that she was going to have a 440 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: big baby, and she was right. She also thought that 441 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: he'd have a thick head of hair because she had 442 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: experienced really terrible acid reflux throughout her pregnancy. She was 443 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: also right with that he had a full head of hair. 444 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: I was quite shocked at how much hair he had. 445 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: I know it was an old wives tale, but I 446 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: believe it because judging from our three babies, my son 447 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: was born with the most hair, and I had the 448 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: worst acid reflex. I don't think you really had it 449 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: at much. I did, and Luca actually was born with 450 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of hair. I mean, you know when 451 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: they lose it like he subsequently lost it. For any 452 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: pregnant women who are listening and suffering from acid reflux. 453 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: I got this from Victoria divine but have fruit tangles. 454 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: It helped. I used to take it like my medication. Yeah. Well, 455 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: getting back to Beck, she did op for a C 456 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: section judo her son being in the breech position, and 457 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: for weeks now she has been documenting on Instagram the 458 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: process of trying to flip him into the vertex position 459 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: through different exercises. I have really enjoyed watching all of 460 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: her pregnancy content. In particular, she was sharing her first 461 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: couple of weeks of maternity leave, and she was doing 462 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: this huge clean out of her house. So every day 463 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: she'd set herself the task of cleaning a different room. 464 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 1: But that is a hard task when you're heavily praying Yah, 465 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: and I just thought it was so clever, because I mean, 466 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: she showed her TV unit and one of the drawers 467 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: was literally full of just old cords that were all 468 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: just tied together. She said, look, we've lived here for 469 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: like three years and we've never ever touched this, and Beck, 470 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: You're correct, those are jobs that you were never going 471 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: to get around to doing. I remember the day before 472 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: Luca was born, we still had the princes in our 473 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: nursery to put up, and I was about to get 474 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: put them into frames and I was like, now I've 475 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: got to sit down. Those pictures have not gone up. 476 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll ever go up. Oh, it's the worst. 477 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: You really do feel like the clock is ticking. You're like, 478 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: there's no way I'm going to have any time to 479 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: prioritize this. And then also your house gets filled with 480 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: even more crap because babies come with a lot of 481 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: stuff and they grow out of it quickly, Like where 482 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: do I put all this? A lot of cardboard as 483 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: well from all the things you buy. Now, there was 484 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: a lot of love on this post. Laura Henshaw wrote 485 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: congratulations Angel. Victoria Devine also wrote welcome to the world, Tommy, 486 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: You're already so loved. I didn't know that the two 487 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: of them were friends. Yeah, no, n I mean they 488 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: both live in Melbourne, so I'm assuming that they've been 489 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: to events together. What did you think of the name Tommy? 490 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: I loved it. It was so refreshing to hear a 491 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: normal name and it just made me think of Tommy Fury. 492 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the influence. Yeah, it made 493 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: me think is it Thomas and the nicknames Tommy or 494 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: you're just going with Tommy on the birth certificate. He's 495 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: a gorgeous baby as well. I couldn't get over how 496 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: cute he was. Now. It's quite interesting though, because when 497 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: Beck uploaded her post, Instagram flagged that one of the 498 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: photos had been altered using AI. So this is a 499 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: new feature on Instagram. So any content that is created 500 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: using a third par Ai tool, it will receive an 501 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: AI info label if you post it on your feed, 502 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: So when you click on the label, it then outlines 503 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: to any of your followers that the content may have 504 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: been created with AI, and it gives users ways to 505 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: help identify it. Now they have that in place, so 506 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: people can obviously tell if something has been highly altered. 507 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: For instance, I mean I saw one recently a Halloween 508 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: post where there was a kangaroo who was supposedly punching 509 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: a ghost in someone's yard. I mean, I thought it 510 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: was fairly obvious that it was AI, but it is 511 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: there for people who might not be across it all. 512 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's helpful, particularly if someone has 513 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: run their photo through AI to enhance the way they 514 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: look like. I think that's great. And or for any 515 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: fake news that people are posting about, because I constantly 516 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: see fake news headlines with altered pictures of celebrities. Yeah. 517 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: Now I want to point out the Inbex photo dump, 518 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: there were a lot of photos of her looking very glamorous. 519 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: I have to say, Oh, she looked so good. I 520 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: was like, God, I did not look like that. See, 521 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: these were the photos I was hoping for, but I 522 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: got the complete opposite of them. I had my handhead on. 523 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: My husband would let me take the handead off anyway. 524 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: And I think that she really wanted to clear up 525 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: the fact that she didn't AI any of the surgical 526 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: photos or any of that sort of stuff. She clarified 527 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: in her stories that no AI was involved in the 528 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: birth announcement. She wrote, I swear I didn't AI this post. 529 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: I used Gemini to change Josh's Hannett from red to 530 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: blue because it was very jarring, but then ended up 531 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: turning the whole photo black and white. Anyway. It's funny 532 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: because you would assume that she would be turning a 533 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: black and white for any like red blood in the background, 534 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: not like a red handt. I love that she's spending 535 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: her time after having her baby changing the hairnet. Why 536 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: is that something that I would do? God, she looks 537 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: like she's been having a good time in the private 538 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: hospital that she's at. Like, I couldn't believe the meals 539 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: that she's been posting with cheesecakes and what's Like. I 540 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: heard Laura Brn talking about being in a private hospital 541 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: for her daughter Poppy and they had high teas every day, 542 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: and I was like, God, I really missed out in 543 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: the public sector. God, then you go to the reality 544 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: back home, You're probably like, what the hell is my 545 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: high tea? I didn't actually eat one meal that the 546 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: hospital provided me with it either, that disgusting. On that note, 547 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: I think that is where we will leave you for today. 548 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us for this episode. 549 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: If you have enjoyed it, could you please make sure 550 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: you are subscribed on Apple podcast and Spotify if you 551 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: want to hear more content from us. We drop a 552 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: subscriber only episode every Thursday, which is basically an extension 553 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: of this show. If you're not yet an Outspoken Plus 554 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: subscriber and you do want to subscribe, all the details 555 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: are in our show notes. It just costs five ninety 556 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: nine a month. 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