WEBVTT - UNPACKED REALITY - I'M A CELEBRITY - BRITTNEY & ELLIE 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.040 TV Reload, the podcast Last Weep, Never Life. Hey guys, 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:07.240 welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:10.720 for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Brittany Hockley 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.920 and Ellie Cole, both who were a huge part of 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:16.000 the current series of I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.920 of Here for twenty twenty four with more votes from 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:21.599 the public than we'd ever seen before. My two guests 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:24.880 today were sadly farewelled from the South African jungle, bringing 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.680 the camp mates from a group of five down to three. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.120 The tears definitely flowed as the camp mates said goodbye 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.680 to both Brittany and Ellie, who both made the camp 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:37.159 life look like an absolute breeze. While Brittany was an 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.680 absolute trooper when it came to the trials, it was 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:41.560 her bonds that she made with a camp that made 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.440 her a true winner amongst the cast. Ellie Cole was 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.080 a self confessed I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.760 His super fan. I'm one of the keenest celebrity camp 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.960 mates that's ever been on the show, always keen to 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:56.280 dive into whatever challenges that Robert and Juliet managed to 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.200 throw her way. Brittany's time in the jungle was in 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.200 support of UP, which helps women escape dangerous situations and 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.840 gives them a fresh start with housing, donations, help cliances, 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.040 and a lot more. Brittany will talk about the landscape 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.199 of podcasting and what she thinks of an individual's power 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.640 to create storylines in the media. Ellie will talk about 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.920 how her love of the show manifested into an opportunity 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.600 to be on the show and how this experience has 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.120 surprised her. We will get some behind the scenes stories 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:28.840 from both girls in regarding to the realities of the 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:32.000 jungle experience and how they could actually smell the food 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.199 that the crew was eating. We will also talk about 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.600 who both of these women would like to see win 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.440 the competition, and the answer is actually the same and 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.000 so that will be interesting to see if their guesses 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.120 become correct. On Sunday night. There's actually so much to 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.880 unpack with Brittany and Ellie, so sit back and relax 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.840 as we unpack their time in a South African jungle. 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:53.360 Hey ya, how i am. 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:54.520 I'm good. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.280 I'm very excited to be talking to you. I'm actually 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.240 a bit of a fan. I listened to the pod, 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.200 so this is amazing. 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.160 Thank you. I love that. Well. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.080 Congratulations on making it this far in the show. Did 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.480 you have any idea that you would make it right 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:09.519 up until the finale? 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:10.080 Do you know what? 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.440 It's so hard to know because you don't know what's 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.680 being shown. You're being filmed for literally twenty four hours 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.120 a day, and about like one to one and a 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.320 half hours max is shown between twelve people. So it's 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.519 so like, I feel like what people see on the 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.280 outside could be very different to what we all experience 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.760 on the inside. But I'm went in with zero expectations 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.200 and just thought I'm just going to have fun. I'm 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.720 going to be me, and whatever happens happened. So I 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.119 was soaked to make it so far. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.720 Are you looking forward to googling yourself and finding out 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.040 what everyone's thought about you while you've been away? 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:43.280 No, I'm already. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.320 I haven't been out for a couple of hours and 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:46.720 I haven't gone on Instagram yet. 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:48.000 Okay, stay away, that's fine. 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.200 You know what, For as many people out there that'll 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.800 say something negative, there's at least two or three more 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.560 people you know that always love you. I think that's 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.639 always the best way to think about it when it 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:01.280 comes to reality. How do you think your co hosts 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:05.000 would have gone had they had gone into the jungle instead. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:05.560 Of you in there? 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.600 I genuinely thought, oh my god, Mitch and Laura werein' 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.120 about to do this. That's what I thought, and not 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.640 because it's them. It's because at one point I thought 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:13.360 I couldn't do it. 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:14.440 It's like, it's so. 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:18.200 Much harder than you could ever imagine, and people like 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.560 past contestants tell you it's so hard. 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:21.680 They're like, it's so hard. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.480 You know, you don't eat, you're hungry, you're bored, you've 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.560 got no energy, You've got to. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.679 Do these crazy things. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:32.359 that's fine. And then when you're in it, it's absolutely insanity. 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.840 But I do think Mitch would be amazing on it, 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.880 and I hope we can see him on the next year. 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:39.640 Okay, yeah, he really needs to do that. I think 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.600 I spoke to him about this at the Logis on 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.880 the Red Carpet about two years ago, and he looked 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.920 open to it, So you know, I'm. 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.680 I think it'd be Keen and I think she'd kill it. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.160 Well, he's got to beccoes to fill my friend, because 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.920 you've done so well. Your podcasting ability really shone through 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.760 with your chats with people, which I really loved. Have 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:00.520 you always been interested in people's story because I think 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.440 that's your superpower, Like you can really see you come 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.200 alive when you get the opportunity to sit down with 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:07.119 someone one on one. 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.240 Oh that's very kind. Thank you. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.240 It's funny because I didn't really notice until towards the 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.520 end that I don't even notice that I do it, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.279 so I it's almost an unintentional interview mode, but it's 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.719 not an interview. I'm just so curious about people's stories, 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.560 and I know so many people have amazing. 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:25.640 Stories if you just give them the time. 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.159 But it wasn't until the end I was like, I 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.320 feel like I've barely spoken about myself. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.760 I feel like you've just like asked everyone else their 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.120 stories and no one asked me mine. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:35.440 And I got to the end and I was like, 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.040 I wonder if anyone I wonder if Australia even knows 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:38.719 it about me? 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:39.600 No, this is us. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.240 Now, I'm podcasting you. Now I get to ask you 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:43.320 all of those questions. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:44.279 Yeah. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.600 Fair, If only I got to do that on the show. 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:51.760 What do you think of all of these entertainment podcasts 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.240 that are out there now, because when you've finished up 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.760 on The Bachelor, you know, all those years ago, it 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.920 kind of was the beginning of social commentary in the 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.080 podcasting space, and you've really been on the you know, 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.320 been with that from the ground floor. What do you 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.200 think about where it's come to now? 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:08.080 What's funny? 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.200 Like, I do feel like we were sort of one 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.440 of the og podcasts if there was. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:14.680 We were in pretty early in podcasting. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.840 You know, we're five years deep now, and there were 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.719 so many people when we started the podcast that told 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.240 us not to you know, they were like, podcasting, why 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.360 would you do that? That's you know, no one does that. 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.239 There's no money in that, that's not a real job. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:28.919 And we were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:30.440 we love to talk to people. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.120 It's fun. Who cares if there's no money? 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:36.279 And I feel really lucky that we we went against. 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.800 The green and tried it because now I do see 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.320 pods pop up all the time. Yeah, and I think 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:42.680 people don't realize how hard it is. 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.760 I mean, you know, you have one people think you 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.640 just jump on record something without thinking, without editing, throw 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.840 it out there and hope and like it blows up, 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.680 But it doesn't, like it's so much work. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.520 When people tell me about doing podcasting, I say to them, 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.560 go for it, you know, because I mean, you don't 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:01.120 even need a distributor anymore, you can just podcast. But totally, 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.440 it needs to be in your DNA. It needs to 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.680 be something that just you would do second nature. And 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.360 you know what, Brittany, I really saw that through your 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.960 time in the jungle, that that is just who you are. 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.840 You're curious about people, your kind, the way that you 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.200 talk to people, and I think that's how you on 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:19.359 earth story from people. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:19.960 Do you know what I mean? 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.520 Yeah, I appreciate that because I don't. 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.400 I genuinely don't even notice I do it, and probably 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.080 annoying to most people, probably when she answering so many questions, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:29.520 why does you care what I did when I was five? 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.440 That's how to get the stories out of people. 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.840 Yeah, And it's like I tell everyone, if people want 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.719 to start a podcast, I'm like, go for it. I'm like, 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.120 but just be aware it's not as easy as you think. 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.280 It's some hard work. You don't think you're just going 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.239 to go straight to the top and earn all this money, 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.839 like you've got a grind. But you know, I think 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.720 I love podcasts obviously, I'm an advocate for them, and 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:49.919 I think anyone that can make a life out of 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.239 it and a business out of it is doing very well. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.039 Will you get discussed a lot in the podcasting space 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:59.000 from other podcasters, and you also get discussed in the media. 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:03.159 What's the most ridiculous thing that's ever been put out 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.480 into the zeitgeist about you and your personal life? 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:10.200 Oh? God, you from a spot there? Oh, I remember 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.600 there was one. This was just funny but it was dumb. 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:15.760 But you know, I mean you would probably know, like 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.400 you can say something on a podcast or on radio 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:19.920 in an interview and. 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.600 It can it has context, and it. 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.240 Has humor and you laugh, and you know, you can 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.200 after it be like haha, ha, just joking whatever. 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.840 It's different. But when a media outlet take that and 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:31.560 put it in. 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.720 Writing with no context, no tone, nothing, it's it always 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:39.080 sounds ridiculous. But I just remember this headline and a 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.440 story literally that was like Brittany Hockley goes. 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.840 To massus once a week just so she can be. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.800 Touched, and that was that was the airdline, and I 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.560 was like, what the hell, Like. 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.240 This makes me sound like the biggest perverb. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.760 Like I just go to a random massus so someone 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.760 touches me and like feels me up. And I was like, 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.840 and that, to be fair, I did say that, but 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:01.600 it was the joke, right, I was like, Oh, I 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:02.280 love massages. 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:03.640 I just want someone to touch me. You know, I 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:04.280 just made a joke. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.160 But the jokes don't land when they're in a headline 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:08.080 on the Daily Mail. 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:09.920 And you can a like twin but you know that, 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.200 like you can spin anything these days, Like if you 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.280 want a story out of someone that is not really there, 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:17.720 just listen to someone talk for five minutes and you 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.600 can twist and turn anything. It's like being paparazzi, you 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.119 know what I mean. Like if you walk down the street, 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.720 think about all the faces you pull when you're thinking, 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.640 oh I've got to get the shopping, Oh god, I 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.880 forgot to ring mum. And then when it ends up 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.720 in the in the magazines, it looks like you're angry 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.240 and they say, you know you hate Mitch Jury, you 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:34.760 know what I mean? 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:40.079 Like, Yeah, Brittany looking downcast after leaving co hosts Mitch Churry, Yeah, whatever, 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.480 it was just funny and I just remember reading the 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.120 headline and just thinking, wow, I've run. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:46.800 Just think some of further that pays people to. 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:48.560 Touch me in Do you think that there's too much 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:52.040 power these days though, in our podcasting platform, because we 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.400 really do have a voice that's being listened to by 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.760 so many people, and we're not really being fact checked, 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.719 we're not really being scrutinized over there's no sort of 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.719 policing of podcasting, so to speak, at this point. Do 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.559 you think that there's too much power in the individual? Oh? 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.800 I just think, you know what, it's a bit of 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:10.360 a b to be. 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.280 There's a big responsibility on you as a podcaster or 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.560 anyone putting information out to you have a responsibility because 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.200 people are listening, they are getting information from you, So 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.160 it's pretty important you do your due diligence. And Laura 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.680 and I on Life on carp we get the best 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:29.040 of the best when we interview, We get like profess people, 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.040 the best of their professions to come and talk to us. 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.240 If it's something that we know nothing about, and if 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.320 it's just Laura and I talking, we do so much 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:39.960 research and you do feel a huge sense of responsibilit 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.480 because you don't want put out their own information that 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.320 one hundred thousand people might go and tell someone else about. 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.600 But then, on the other hand, there's a responsibility on 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:51.040 the listener and the consumer to also do their own. 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.120 Research and not just believe every single thing they hear. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:54.920 There's a lot of people that will read a headline 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:56.240 and that becomes a fact to them. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:57.800 They don't even read the article. Then they go and 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.240 tell someone else, then the rumors start. I think the 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:01.400 responsibility split. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.200 It's like between people that put out information and consumers 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.920 on how to digest the right information. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:09.640 I agree. I'm so sorry. 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.920 This is the shortest interview of my life, so I 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.360 have at least seven hundred more questions. So I'm just 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.000 going to only ask you two more if you can 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:17.880 give me a sort of a one worded answer on 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:18.320 this one. 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:20.880 Who's going to win? Who do you want to win? 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:21.880 Not who's going to win? 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.040 Actually, okay, who do I want? It's so tough. I 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:26.439 love them all, but I think. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.040 Tristan, okay, great, that's amazing. And everyone who has my 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.800 podcast gets asked the same question, what is something from 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:34.199 behind the scenes now? I know you. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.640 I know that you don't know what Australia has seen. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:39.640 But what's something from behind the scenes of being a 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.760 celebrity and being picked to do a show like this, 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.280 something that maybe the average punter wouldn't know. 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.600 The behind the scenes is actually in this show, there 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.320 is not really a big behind the scenes. You barely 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.439 see people. It's so real. It's the realest reality show 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.560 I've been on. But the one funny thing is when 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.680 you leave, because you don't get fed in there, right, 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.600 and they try to look after like your mental health. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.720 When you leave to go and do a trial for 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.000 the day, when you are about to walk past the 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.080 catering tent for the stuff, they make you put a 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.160 blindfold on so that you can't see the food. 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:15.040 I think you'll freak out, Like yeah, I was. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.000 Like, bro, I can smell it. I can smell that 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.120 carbon I don't have to see it. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.440 Make the craft services have carbonara? Oh my god. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:23.240 Yeah. 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.280 And I peaked one day. I lifted my blind fold 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:26.800 up and I saw a huge sign that was like 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:28.800 Burger Day and I was like, damn it, I shouldn't 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:29.880 have looked well. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.319 I really appreciate the chat with you, I'm sure at 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:33.240 some point in my life. 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:34.360 I mean, it's a dream. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.319 It's a bucket list thing to sit down and talk 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.960 to you about those things about you know, what were 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:39.960 you like when you were six? 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:40.760 I would love to. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.480 Do that with you at some point. So I feel 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.320 like it's going to happen. I will it to happen 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:44.920 at some point. 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.160 Congratulations, I have no doubt it will. 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.360 If you were wind up and pass you over to Ellie. 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.120 I'm being wrapped up now, that's fine, all the very best. 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:56.320 It's great chatting to you. I'm going to pass you 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.920 on to Ellie. Amazing, I've got Ellie for you. 0:11:58.960 --> 0:11:59.360 Amazing. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:00.640 Hi, how are you. 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:04.040 I'm well, and I'm so excited to be talking to you. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.280 You know, you have become such a fan favorite amongst 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.480 the celebrities that were in the jungle this year. That 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.160 must be so exciting and a little bit terrifying at 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:12.720 the same time. 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.559 Well, that's really nice to hear and you say it's 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.520 so exciting but terrifying at the same time. We have 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.760 in their jungle, as the celebrities, we have absolutely no 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.280 idea in terms of what's making the edits, how we're 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:26.600 being perceived. 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:26.880 By the public. 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:28.960 I haven't really been on my phone, so I have 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.200 absolutely no idea what you're talking about, but that's nice 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:31.520 to hear. 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.800 I've spoke to two famous people yesterday and I said 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.000 to them, who do you want to win? I'm a celebrity, 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.160 and they both said your name, and they were the 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.760 only two people ask that question too, So you know, 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:44.040 that's pretty cool. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.719 Wow, this is incredible because, as I mentioned, when you're 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.960 in the jungle, you're so disconnected, so that's really lovely 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:51.320 to hear. 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:51.760 Well. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.920 One of them is actually Reggie Byrd, who won two 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.400 seasons of Big Brother, and she knows reality TV, you 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.760 know what I'm saying, and so she loved you, so 0:12:58.840 --> 0:12:59.840 I think that's pretty cool. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:00.680 She's amazing. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.480 I've never met her in person, but we do follow 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.280 each other on Instagram and yeah, we do comment on 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.400 each other's posts every now and then, which. 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.400 She's certainly got to slide into your DMS and say 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.480 that she enjoyed you on the show. You know, did 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:15.040 you worry about the fact that, whilst you are super 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.120 duper famous in a smaller circle, you're probably not as 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.040 recognizable as maybe some of the other biggest celebrities that 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.600 were in there, were you What sort of thought process 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.319 did you put to that when you were going in, 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:29.240 Because I actually think in some ways, not being someone 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:33.079 that is as recognizable allowed you to have this superpower 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.560 in a way just sort of be the voice of 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:36.120 the people. 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:37.800 Yeah, that's a good way of looking at it. 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.679 You know, when I first went into the jungle, I 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.360 did recognize quite a lot of the camp mate. 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.559 Of course, that can be so intimidating because you know. 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.240 The history, you know what platform that they have. But 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.480 I think you're right when you say it could be 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.439 almost a bit of a dark Force moment because because 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.800 a lot of the campmates you know, didn't miss some 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.120 of them did, but like some of them all, so 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.160 I didn't know my background, and so I think it 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.560 actually made for quite interesting conversation because they had to 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.400 effectively start from the very beginning. 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.360 But I wasn't too. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.480 Worried that I didn't have a huge social media following 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.120 for when and I think I had like thirty five 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.120 thousand on Instagram or something. But I did know that 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.960 as long as I was really honest and very genuine, 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.640 that I would get what I wanted out of the experience, 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.400 and I would hope that the viewers who were out 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:32.160 there could find something anything that I said relatable and 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.800 hopefully take some part of that away with them. That 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.640 was my mission the entire time, and I don't think 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.440 that it mattered whether I had a huge social media 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.000 following or not, as long as I was able to 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.240 be really honest with what my experiences were like. 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.680 I feel like someone could take something away from that. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:51.560 I think a lot of people did, you know, And 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.800 I think watching you in there flourishing in that way 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.200 made you as popular as you were, because you know, 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.640 you beat so many other celebrities that were in there 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.320 for a reason. It wasn't just oh well, I guess 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.360 there's a few votes between the two. You were extraordinarily popular, 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.120 and I think it came down to a lot of that. 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:09.800 You know, that's good. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.120 I think a lot of people could go into this experience, 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.480 you know, with pretty big names in the jungle and 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:20.080 feeling a sense of I suppose impostera syndrome. But one 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.920 thing about going into the jungle for me, I never 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:26.480 really felt imposter syndrome because I knew that I had 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:30.080 an amazing story in terms of being a paralympian, being 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.240 a person that lives with a disability, that it's a 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.760 sorry that isn't really told too much on reality television 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.160 in particular, And so I knew that. 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.720 I had something really important. 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.000 To say and that kind of overrid any kind of 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:45.760 imposter syndrome, if that makes sense. 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.160 I think if for a very good reason. 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:49.760 And you know, it was nice to be able to 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:53.160 see you in there representing, you know, the para Olympians. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.680 I think that was quite amazing. I guess in some ways, 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.320 it's not like you're the most common celebrity that gets 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:00.960 put into a sh like this. So how does an 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.280 opportunity to go on a celebrity show like this come 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.320 up for you? Had you put your hand up or 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:06.840 had someone sort of jobbed you in? 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.720 Like? How did how did this come across your desk? 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:11.600 That's a really great question. 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:15.680 My cousin was on season two of the show, and 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.360 so I kind of I started actually watching from season one, 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.560 but I really became hooked on the show in season 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.480