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Speaker 5: Hi.

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Speaker 3: I'm Amanda and I'm Rumby.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to It's lay It.

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Speaker 3: We're in a long distance friendship that started over twenty

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Speaker 3: years ago when we were in high school.

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Speaker 4: We'll be talking about all things life, love, family, anything

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Speaker 4: and everything else under the sun.

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Speaker 3: Delve deeper with us because in life, you know my layers.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, Hello everybody, and welcome

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Speaker 3: to another episode of It's Layered. And today we have

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Speaker 3: a very very special guest. We're really hyped to have

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Speaker 3: TikTok and Instagram, such as her iconic Love Island UK

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Speaker 3: It has gone out over three million views. She's a

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Speaker 4: starred in a one woman play Give This Woman the Flowers,

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Speaker 4: Liverpool Everyman. We welcome you to our podcast. We're so excited, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be here. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 6: Like guys, I'm I just you know, when you talk

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Speaker 6: to other like zim women, I'm like, this is what

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Speaker 1: Because our industry laps, we need more, we need.

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Speaker 3: backtrack a little bits, take them back, and could you

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Speaker 6: I would say I've always known I was a creative,

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Speaker 3: But isn't that beautiful because you're saying it all just

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Speaker 3: Remember, Soral was when you were talking to the zimbabwe

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Speaker 4: like how you describe yourself? First, if someone says sol

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Speaker 5: Oh, child God, like, why are you getting deep this quickly?

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Speaker 5: We're duping deeper surround? No, we have to go there.

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Speaker 6: Okay, what would I say I am?

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Speaker 1: I would say I'm an actress.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you said that you felt like TikTok

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Speaker 6: I can add something to a conversation, and not because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's quite interesting.

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Speaker 3: You spoke about it with on your podcast. We'll go

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think, especially with platforms like TikTok, where's so.

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Speaker 4: Like people feel like you really are my sister, you

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Speaker 4: I don't remember when I was like I don't know

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Speaker 1: It's never it's never the feeling of like I never

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Speaker 6: Come across as rude because it's never the intention, but awkward,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah.

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Speaker 6: It's it's it's really weird, and I think most creatives

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Speaker 6: I've found most people I've been around in social settings

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean even beyond it has to be sash,

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Speaker 6: It's rude their boundaries in But I think it creates

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Speaker 6: I'm on social media and there's something i want to

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Speaker 6: And then my personal life, they have to be boundary.

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Speaker 6: very weird to see comments about themselves, to see, you know,

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Speaker 6: I've kind of I'm used to it now. I've this

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Speaker 6: But my mom doesn't necessarily understand that, my sister doesn't

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Speaker 6: And I think the content creators who don't have boundaries

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Speaker 6: It's you know, you're seeing the highlight reel, You're highlights

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Speaker 6: I have decided to press post.

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Speaker 1: If I don't respost, you're not seeing it.

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Speaker 6: There are certain things in your life that I think

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Speaker 1: If you're in content to just keep private.

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Speaker 4: They for me, it works, you know, you know it's

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Speaker 6: My gosh, that's for the word authentic.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean? Issue?

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Speaker 6: I feel like authentic implies that in other aspects.

439
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: Of your life you are maybe more or less real

440
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: than you are online.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if that makes sense, but I prefer

442
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 6: the word I think the more the word humble is like,

443
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 6: you haven't allowed these external factors.

444
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Speaker 3: To influence who you are exactly, the core of who

445
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Speaker 3: you are.

446
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 6: Exactly, and that honestly, as much as I come from

447
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 6: my zim aunties for talking about my body, it's my family,

448
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 6: and it's my friends and their rawness, their realness. The

449
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 6: way my mom can collect me and gather me. It's

450
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 6: a work of art. My mom reads me to filth.

451
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 6: Like I remember once I was like, Mama, this video

452
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Speaker 6: it's got like one hundred thousand views, which was like,

453
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Speaker 6: but how much is in your bank account?

454
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Speaker 4: I said, well, oh oh, okay, okay, I said, well, okay,

455
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Speaker 4: that is one way to decease.

456
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Speaker 1: So I think so I think that helps.

457
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Speaker 6: But also I'm very I've got a really strong relationship

458
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Speaker 6: with God, like being a Christian, being a child of God.

459
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 6: I mean I just about it on the Internet and stuff,

460
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 6: but it honestly is the core and fiber of who

461
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 6: I am. And I know for a fact if I

462
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Speaker 6: didn't have that relationship, that foundation with God, a lot

463
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 6: of things would have swayed me in a different direction

464
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 6: that I probably didn't like the version of myself. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think I think those two things are like the

466
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Speaker 6: pillars that keep me like grounded. As for like hate comments,

467
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Speaker 6: I have a trick. So I posted my video and

468
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 6: then I closed the whole app and I don't come

469
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Speaker 6: back for about two or three hours. But then it's

470
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Speaker 6: got a couple of comments. I will lie the first three, four,

471
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 6: maybe five, because they're usually the positive ones. I read

472
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 6: in the comments, and I realized, you're talking to yourself

473
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 6: because and that's okay. Sometimes people just want to say

474
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 6: stuff to say stuff, and that's okay, but I am

475
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 6: not going to read it, because one day you will

476
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 6: read something that will literally affect you for the next week,

477
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Speaker 6: and I get a week to give up or a comment.

478
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Speaker 6: There are certain videos where, let's say I'm talking about

479
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 6: something slightly deeper, where I will read all the comments

480
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 6: because I'm trying to have that conversation with.

481
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Speaker 1: My like the community I've built. That's different.

482
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 6: But sometimes I make polarizing videos like I talk about

483
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 6: the government, I talk about race, I talk about I

484
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 6: made a video about the queen. When I tell you shambles,

485
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I said, God.

486
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Speaker 1: Not for this.

487
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Speaker 2: Wait woman, wait.

488
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Speaker 8: Isabeth, she sleep, she's gone, and you Yeah, I said,

489
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 8: I'm not going to my dms and I'm looking at

490
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Speaker 8: I'm not looking at the comments.

491
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Speaker 6: That video because I know that the Internet is a

492
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 6: wild place. But that is how I have learned to

493
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 6: like build barriers to protect myself. But yeah, also utilize

494
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 6: the block button. That block button is.

495
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Speaker 1: War My finger will quick it with them.

496
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Speaker 3: Oh god, beautiful, wow, And I think people don't realize,

497
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: like you know, social media. If you compare to your home, right,

498
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,239
Speaker 3: if someone is just bashing through your door and like

499
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 3: you wouldn't just keep opening the door for all sorts

500
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Speaker 3: of refresh you come You're like, oh your house is

501
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: this You ain't doing this right? You just don't open

502
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: the down or just not share the address that's a block. Yeah,

503
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 3: they don't even know where yet, so absolutely make sense.

504
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: And I think definitely it definitely exhudes the the mechanisms

505
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 3: of the ways you're navigating. You can still get a

506
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: true set like this is sourral like.

507
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 6: You feel it.

508
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 3: It's genuine, and I think that protecting of peace and

509
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 3: African parents always help. We did an episode on how

510
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: they can't compliment you or the compliment is backhanded and

511
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: you're just like geez man, let's or they take the

512
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 3: cred and you're like, huh.

513
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 6: Oh, how about sorry that word.

514
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: Exists in their book.

515
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: An African parents would rather mop the ocean before saying yes, yes,

516
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 3: that's about right.

517
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: Sorry.

518
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Speaker 1: If a meal I get, are you coming down for food? Man?

519
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 3: We've just had someway some way.

520
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Speaker 2: Why you know.

521
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: That? You you? You you?

522
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Speaker 6: But yeah, they will humble you, they will humble you

523
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 6: very fast.

524
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Speaker 3: So given that, you know, I love how you expressed,

525
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: like how you navigate all the complexities that I think,

526
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: even as just regular regular individuals we struggle with with

527
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: social media. How do you then remain motivated to keep

528
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: you know, posting, sharing on TikTok Instagram and engage with

529
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: the followers as you've explained, like how do you Because

530
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: it's easy to feel like what's the point? Maybe one

531
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: day the numbers aren't as great as the day before,

532
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: or you know what I mean, like, how does how

533
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: do you keep going? Because it's easy to be like

534
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: I'm not getting the key that I thought today and

535
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: then you know, you.

536
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Speaker 6: Know, And I think this is the difference between my

537
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Speaker 6: my group of social media influencers who came in during

538
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Speaker 6: the pandemic, especially for me, who was like posting to

539
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 6: basically no one and other people who've probably been in

540
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 6: social media for a little bit longer, is.

541
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Speaker 1: That the numbers don't. Get me wrong, Sometimes you.

542
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 6: Do get an adrenaline rush, like when you're looking at

543
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 6: like three million within twenty four hours and you're like

544
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 6: this is insane, But the numbers ultimately do not matter,

545
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 6: and I say that because I use my TikTok specifically

546
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 6: as a place of just speaking to people, Like my

547
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 6: video is very last time I made a video asking

548
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 6: people what a certain light bulb was because I didn't

549
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 6: know the.

550
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: Name of it, and I, oh yeah, I was like yeah, yeah,

551
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, these are my people who

552
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: help me out.

553
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: They told me the name of it, like.

554
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: More people were telling you in the comments though, so

555
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: they were telling me.

556
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: So I use it for like a number of things.

557
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Speaker 6: And I think the good thing as well about TikTok

558
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 6: is the algorithm pushes you to the people who are

559
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 6: gonna like that specific video or your content or whatever.

560
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 6: In terms of staying motivated, I think think it's that thing.

561
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 6: Like like I was saying, as much as the follow

562
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 6: account scares me, and like the more it goes up,

563
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 6: I'm like, you know, panic. But I always have felt

564
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 6: like I just want to I want to talk to people.

565
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: I want to add the conversation. I want to ask questions.

566
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 1: I want to probe. I also want to make it light.

567
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes people are talking about something and it's.

568
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 6: So heavy on the Internet, and I'm like, guys, like,

569
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 6: let's light in the mood.

570
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: A bit let's tea like you know. And I remember,

571
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: for example.

572
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 6: When there was a certain school shooting that happened in

573
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Speaker 6: America and I made a video not about the school

574
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 6: shooting but about something else. It was very light and

575
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 6: it was very intentional about that video that I put out,

576
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 6: and a lady DMed me and was like, thank you

577
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 6: so much. Like I'm from this place and it's really

578
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 6: been difficult. We've been struggling, and your video really just

579
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 6: like helped make me laugh for the day. Like stuff

580
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 6: like that I think keeps me going, keeps you motivated.

581
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't know, I feel like the older

582
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 6: I get, the more i'm I realized that also, if

583
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 6: I'm not enjoying it, if I'm not into it, I'm

584
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 6: just not I'm not going to force it.

585
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah that is beautiful.

586
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: I will.

587
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: I will do what needs to be done.

588
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 4: And yeah, you know, you know, our African parents would

589
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 4: tell us to always love a humble woman. So we

590
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: love that you're humble, but we have to give you

591
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: your flowers surround you have built your brand, you have

592
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: you know, whether or not you want to call it,

593
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: that is something.

594
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: But for us watching you, we're.

595
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 4: So proud we're like, oh my gosh, like she's Zim

596
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 4: like I always and she's Ziom I'm saying it, and

597
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 4: she's Zim and she's Zim and she just feel like you.

598
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: Know, like in case you didn't know, so, I mean

599
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: so obviously.

600
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 4: On our podcast, we also try to uplift and give

601
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: advice to people when we have guests on because we

602
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 4: also realize the work you guys have done, you know,

603
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 4: whether or not it feels that way to you. So

604
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: how base do you think someone can build a brand

605
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 4: over in stead gramm and TikTok, Like any advice you can.

606
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 6: Give, any advice I can give, I'm trying not to

607
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 6: make it generic. In general, I would say when it

608
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 6: comes to building a brand, you have to know who

609
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 6: you are.

610
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: And that's that seems like kind of like whoo, like

611
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: what does that mean?

612
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 6: But like once you know who you are at your core,

613
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 6: you find it's a lot easier to make certain decisions

614
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 6: that will benefit you. There are many people who went

615
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 6: into social media who enter the arts entertainment at young

616
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 6: ages or with a lot of counsel or not a

617
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 6: lot of mentorship, and they lost their way because they

618
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 6: two were finding out who they were along the way,

619
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 6: which isn't a bad thing. But I think ultimately, if

620
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 6: you are trying to build a brand, the thing that

621
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 6: will get you there quicker is doing the work yes,

622
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 6: and that helps you figure out what you're into, what

623
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 6: you like, what you don't like. It helps you sort

624
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 6: of map the way, figure out your goals, and also

625
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 6: it cancels out the external voices, which are very loud. Sometimes,

626
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 6: you know, people have an opinion on you. People have

627
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 6: a lot to say, and sometimes by just being so

628
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 6: sure in yourself, you can be like, no, I don't

629
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 6: believe that, and you swat away the opinions. But I

630
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 6: think it's hard. I think you've just also just you

631
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 6: just have to You can't give up. That's the biggest

632
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 6: advice you can't give. And you know, the thing is

633
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 6: when people tell you not to give up, it's so

634
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 6: easy because you're like, I have bills to pay, I'm

635
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 6: still at school, I'm still studying. There's many external factors,

636
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 6: but giving up isn't doesn't mean that you're constantly working

637
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 6: every day. Not giving up is a mindset that means

638
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 6: every single day your mind has not given in to

639
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 6: this dream or not. You're working the nine to five.

640
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 6: Whether or not you're doing the studying, you're in your mind.

641
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 6: You know that I have a goal and I'm going

642
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 6: to reach my goal at the moment I'm doing this

643
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 6: right now.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that the goal in the dream dies.

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00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 6: And that's what I mean by not giving up, because

646
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 6: that power, that that fire, that drive will get you

647
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 6: to your goal ultimately. So I think that's the biggest

648
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 6: advice I could give.

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Speaker 3: That's so dope, and I love I love that it's

650
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: in your mind. You've got to hold onto because you know,

651
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: sometimes it's only you who can see it.

652
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: Yep, it's only you.

653
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 3: You're just there by yourself, So you know you've got

654
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Speaker 3: to You gotta have your own back. Thank you so much.

655
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: And so Row, we've talked a lot about, you know,

656
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 3: social media, and you know, I want I want to

657
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 3: kind of veer into more of the other side of

658
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Speaker 3: your work. You know, you said you're an actor and

659
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: that's something you identify with as first. We'd love to

660
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: hear from you, you know, what have been some of

661
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: your I would yeah, a career highlight for you, whether

662
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: in acting or present. And I would also love to

663
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: talk about your podcast with the Candice breathway.

664
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: Did I say it right?

665
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: I think I said it right. But yeah, if you

666
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: can share a bit more about that so people see that,

667
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: you know, get to know a little more about that

668
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: that side of you.

669
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, acting, like I said, has been, that's

670
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 6: been my baby, that's you know, And I'm telling you now, ladies,

671
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 6: let's just manifest it together that Oscar is coming.

672
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, Dad, I already relating, relating.

673
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 1: But I think for me one of the highlight in acting.

674
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 6: I mean I did theater for many, many years and

675
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 6: it built such like theater is hard, you you build

676
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 6: a muscle for it. You end up knowing exactly what

677
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 6: you're doing. That when you step on set for TV,

678
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 6: film or whatever, you're very confident you've got the backing

679
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 6: that like I've got the training, I've got the experience. Yes,

680
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 6: I would say my One Woman Show was definitely like

681
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 6: insane because crazy.

682
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine doing it.

683
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: Was wild, And when I got the job, I.

684
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 6: Literally you know when you just you know, one of

685
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 6: those moments when you fall to the ground and you

686
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 6: just cry because I was like, I can't. Many actors

687
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 6: work up to this, their whole career is like this

688
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 6: is pretty and insane.

689
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: So that was quite big.

690
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 6: And then I did a TV series last year which

691
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 6: by the time this comes out, actually it will be

692
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 6: aired on like Skycomedy A.

693
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Speaker 3: We're doing Happy Dancers if you.

694
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 6: So that was Yeah, that was quite a big highlight

695
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 6: because again and I find it and I don't know

696
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 6: if this is the perfectionist in me.

697
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: I find it so refreshing when I get jobs based.

698
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 6: Off of like an audition, Like I go in, I

699
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 6: am you're picking me because I am the best in

700
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 6: the room. I don't talk about my social media when

701
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 6: I do acting.

702
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't.

703
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 6: I don't want and I know some people are like, oh,

704
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 6: but it's just it's a good way in I hear that.

705
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 6: But there's something about my I believe in my source

706
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 6: that much that I'm like, if you don't want me

707
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 6: for my acting, I'm not the right person for that.

708
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 6: And yeah, so when I go in and I get

709
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 6: an audio, don't get me wrong, but I won't say

710
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 6: no to word check.

711
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: If let me just clarify, I'm still I'm taking.

712
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: A check to the bed approached me, approach me.

713
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 6: But inside I feel very proud of myself, and I'm like,

714
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 6: I got this based off an audition and there was

715
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 6: like three rounds of audition for that for that one.

716
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: So no, I'm going up against.

717
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 6: People who are like really good in this industry. So

718
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 6: then I think for acting, they're my two highlights. And

719
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 6: then presenting, I mean presenting has been wild. I got

720
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 6: to interview Violin Davis.

721
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: I got we.

722
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: Saw that read the same ear yeah.

723
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 6: When I tell you me and she invited me to

724
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 6: her house. They actually edited that bit out, but basically, no,

725
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 6: let me tell you the story girls, sorry, give us exactly.

726
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 6: I asked her because obviously women kings all about women

727
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 6: and like coming together and being strong, and I was like,

728
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 6: what are some like qualities you look for in your

729
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 6: tribe of women, right, And She's like listing all these things,

730
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 6: like I want women who appressed me, women who are funny,

731
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 6: and at the end of it, I was like, well,

732
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 6: fin it sounds like you're describing me a love.

733
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: She was like, what, man, do not play with me?

734
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 6: Because I book my ticket right and I'll come with

735
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 6: my plate of bros. Don't play I'm playing.

736
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: Imagine David, Imagine She'd be like.

737
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: She's been she's been to the continent and then they

738
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: filmed it.

739
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, she probably has. Actually this takes me back. This

740
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 6: takes me back, but yeah, that was a huge highlight.

741
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 6: Like I just I'm always very inspired by whoever I meet,

742
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 6: and I take inspiration from like the big and quote

743
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 6: unquote the small.

744
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: It's never really small, but you know, I take inspiration

745
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: from that.

746
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 6: And I just feel like the reason why I'm constantly

747
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 6: like a child who's always like WHOA is because every

748
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 6: time I meet someone, it's never a case of like,

749
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 6: oh this has got old, Like are you crazy? Like

750
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 6: I used to live in like a little tiny one

751
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 6: bed flat in London. I could barely pay my bills.

752
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 6: Like one time I had no money that I had

753
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 6: birthday cake for like four days for dinner. Like I

754
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 6: kid you not, Like I know where I've come from.

755
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 6: So when I get those moments where I'm like talking

756
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 6: to people interacting, I'm like, this is this is cool?

757
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: This huge?

758
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like let's not.

759
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 6: Dilute this, Like I know you lot are used to

760
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 6: talking to the big dogs, but like this is big

761
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 6: for me, you know. So yeah, there's quite a lot

762
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 6: of achievements, but they're the ones that like stick out

763
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 6: to me that I'm like, huh, thank the Lord, won't

764
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 6: you do it? Well?

765
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 4: I love that honesty from you because I think a

766
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 4: lot of times when you meet people what content creators,

767
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: they make it seem like, yeah, you know, I just

768
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: met Further Davis the other day.

769
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 2: Like as if it's like and I'm like, I would

770
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: be like, you.

771
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: Know, so I love that you're honest about it, like

772
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 4: it's it's okay to recognize it as a people moment.

773
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will never downplay like I don't know.

774
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 6: And also like this is like a huge like I mean,

775
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 6: I've been watching it since I was a kid, Like

776
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 6: she's a huge inspiration to me.

777
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like down playing it.

778
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 6: And that's what makes a lot of people then take

779
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 6: for granted the stuff that the opportunities they get because

780
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 6: you've kind of reached all the heights of success that

781
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 6: you feel a lot of successful that when you do

782
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 6: the stuff that you think is like not on your level,

783
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 6: quote unquote, you start being like, ah, it's just it's

784
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 6: just viola. Let me tell you something, whether it's a

785
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 6: viola or it's my grandmother's best friend.

786
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm a freak out.

787
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 6: If I've if I've been inspired by that person, regardless,

788
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 6: I'm gonna freak like that to me is like you

789
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 6: you you get inspiration from all these people, Like I can't,

790
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 6: I can't downplay that.

791
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: For me, it's just yeah, it's it's it's been awesome.

792
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: But boy oh boy o boy.

793
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, we cannot wait to see because we know you're

794
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: just going to be doing more and more, not even

795
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 4: to put pleasure, but you know you're zimbab have to

796
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 4: put them pressure, keep going, you know, So like, yeah,

797
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: I think it's just beautiful to have seen your growth,

798
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 4: to have seen you helped us survive lockdowns.

799
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: You took us through lockdowns, out of lockdowns. Now we're

800
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: in Love Island UK.

801
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: I know more about Love Island UK than the Australian

802
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: version because of you.

803
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, Tina, let me check with sore else

804
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: you can get me that four one one. So it's like,

805
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 2: you know, so.

806
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 4: You know, I really really do commend all the beautiful

807
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: work you do. And I know sometimes in the creative

808
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 4: industry especially, you feel isolated and like who's who really cares?

809
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: And trust me, we do.

810
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 4: You know, we're here for you or reading for you

811
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 4: to see a beautiful black woman like yourself doing all

812
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 4: the things you're doing is so inspiring. So we really

813
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: have loved having you on a podcast. It's really been amazing.

814
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so so much. I've loved it.

815
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 6: And yeah, shout out to you guys, because it's not easy.

816
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 6: I've just started podcast world and let me tell you something,

817
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 6: y'all work, Okay, this is this is hard work, So

818
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 6: shout out to you guys.

819
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: And I can't wait to come back. I'm already manifesting it.

820
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 4: Yes, of course, anytime you want, she can just pop

821
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 4: on numbers.

822
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 6: Next time will be a person because Australia, I must

823
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 6: see you.

824
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, none of the stations were like you can stay,

825
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: you can, yes, please do any other projects you want

826
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 4: to share with us. I mean, I know obviously you

827
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 4: said summer coming later in the year, but anything you're

828
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: free and welcome to sharing.

829
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: And your socials as well.

830
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, so socials, Coco surrel on Everything, Twitter, Instagram

831
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 6: and TikTok podcast Closet Confessions, which I can't wait for

832
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 6: you guys to hear season two, Like it's we've got

833
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 6: so many big plans for it, and yeah, just we'll

834
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 6: see each other like in the comment section or in

835
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 6: a d M or someone we'll see each other.

836
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: That day.

837
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 6: That's yeah, yes, now we know aloud.

838
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: Exactly.

839
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 3: Thank you so so much. This has been so hard woman.

840
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: It feels like we're talking to a girlfriend like just

841
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 3: and as Amanda said it all, we are rooting for

842
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: you and we support you wholeheartedly for your The true

843
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: essence of who you are is who you are on screen,

844
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: but also as an individual, and it's so refreshing to

845
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: see and to our listeners. Thank you so much for

846
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: tuning into another episode of It's layered as always, hit

847
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: us up. It's layered on Instagram. It's laird Pod on Twitter.

848
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: It's Twitter even still a thing anymore? I mean, what's

849
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: his name? Killed it for us, but or you can

850
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 3: email us. It's laird pod at gmail dot com. Thank

851
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: you again, Sarah, Thank you Amanda, and we'll see you

852
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: on the next episode.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye, guys. Yeah yeah yeah