1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: If you want to know what's happening on the local 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: political landscape, Katy Wolf has it covered on three sixty. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Everyone is listening mixed one oh four point nine. 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: We are You. 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: May have just heard the Lord May. Then combat Scarlus 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: joins me in the studio, good morning to you are not. 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: Quick to put the microphone off. 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Jesus had it all ready and then you yelled. 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: At you want to talk about? 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Well, Corn, what don't I want to talk about this morning? Hey, 11 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: let's start with yesterday. Mattie Hepworth spoke fairly extensively about 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: this proposal. Let's been put forward for a stadium in 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: the CBD. What are your thoughts, as the Lord. 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: Mayor don't we have one already? We call it TiO Stadium. 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: Now okay, I thought about it extensively and I thought, 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 3: Jesus Sir, a good idea, But how many times will 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: we be using it? How many people would be attracting? 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: And peoples are But in Queensland, yeah, but if you 19 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: look at. 20 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: Queensland, also Queensland in Townsville they actually have an NRL team. 21 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: But also if you look at the distance between cities 22 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: and Queenslands, about the hundre kilometers hundred three. Our next 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: biggest city is Catherine three hundred and fifty kilometers to 24 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 3: seven thousand people. We've got one hundred ten thousand people here. 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: How many people would come here towards in the middle 26 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: of the city again three four times a year? And 27 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: what how were we do with Marari will become a 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: ghost down? How about we save two hundred and fifty 29 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: million dollars. We can spend them somewhere else, like the 30 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 3: government can put it in underground parlor or upgrade royal 31 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: down hostel and put fifty million dollars in Mara to 32 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: make it stead. 33 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: Of the art. 34 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I get the argument. You know that it 35 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 1: would be a great thing obviously to attract people into 36 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: the city, and that other other locations have a similar 37 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: similar stadiums, that they do good things in terms of activating. 38 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: But look for me, first and foremost is do we 39 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: have the money and where do we get the money? 40 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: Has the landholder in the location we were actually talking about, 41 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: are they for it? You know, what's the what's the 42 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: go in that sense? But also we don't have an 43 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: NRL team or we don't have an AFL team, so 44 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: as you've rightly pointed out that I have time. 45 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: It's going to be here from our to come here 46 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: to play, and that will happen probably about three or 47 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: four times a year. Three hundred million dollars for three 48 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 3: four times a year. I think it's a very big 49 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 3: spend and quite right, who is going to pay for it? 50 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 3: Because if the government decides to put the money, boy, 51 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: they're going to be very brave government when they can't 52 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: find money for other essential things. 53 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: Look, I don't think the government's very keen to find 54 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: three hundred million dollars. 55 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: I don't think they've got three hundred million dollars. 56 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: And to be fair, to be fair, they've got other 57 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: things to address at the moment. And how many house 58 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 3: can you build in a remote community with three hundred 59 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: million dollars? 60 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, this is the thing I you know, 61 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: I always admire people thinking outside the box, and I 62 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: always admire coming up with different ideas. But for me, 63 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions there that still need to 64 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: be answered. 65 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: If you look at it the way the land falls, 66 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: you can actually put a beautiful resort there to actually 67 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: attract tourists in the city which they come. 68 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: Then we know they will come because they're already here now. 69 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: Connor, I want to talk about these old fresco dining 70 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: I know that it's something that we spoke about last 71 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: week when the council handed down the proposed budget, but 72 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: I read in the paper over the weekend the Darwen 73 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Council Alderman hopes to build an incentive for cafes and 74 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: restaurants to adopt these elfresco dining fees across the municipality 75 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: in the wake of the proposed reintroduction. So in response 76 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: to the council's twenty twenty one twenty two draft budget 77 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: and municipal plan proposed to bring back these elfresco dining 78 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: fees costing CBD venues seven dollars per table per week 79 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: and suburban venues four dollars per table per week, Alderman 80 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Paul Arnold set a spin off of the successful My 81 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: Darwin scheme could offset the fees and be run from 82 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: funds raised through that levee. Is this a good idea? 83 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: What do you think if we are going to subsidize 84 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: on fresco or what happened to all the other retailers 85 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: that people they sell shoes or bags or books? How 86 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: are we going to help them? And if we're going 87 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: to help all these people, we have to find the 88 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: money somewhere. Are you agreeing to increase to increase your 89 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: rate to subsidize a business. 90 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: Look for me, I'm not a big fan of the 91 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: Elfresco dining fees going up. I actually think we should 92 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 1: be just trying to get people into the city, get 93 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: people using those Elfresco dining areas. But I know that 94 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: this is all open to, you know, to people actually 95 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: putting forward their submissions. 96 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: At this point, you just said you don't agree with 97 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: our freshcrow fear has been put up. Let me tell 98 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: you that our freshco fee has come down fifty percent. 99 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand, I get all that we spoke about it. 100 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 3: Last thing is a table a dollar a day In 101 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: a table you can put four people, that's twenty five 102 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: cents of person. 103 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, But if you're talking about a small business that 104 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: maybe has a few tables, it's obviously going to have 105 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: an impact on them over the course of the year. 106 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: I understand why you guys are doing it, and I 107 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: understand all the things that you told us last week. 108 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: But for them, for those businesses, they might be going 109 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: through a good time at the moment, but we don't 110 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen in the web season, and 111 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: I just think it's a weird time to be putting 112 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: up these faces. 113 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: Somebody point out people actually prepared to pay the landlord 114 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: a rent to hire a property. What people doing now 115 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: is actually paying a fee to hire a public property 116 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: from the council. 117 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: It belongs to a sign council that says that I 118 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: want to activate. 119 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: It happens everywhere, and the cost is so minimal. 120 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: And not only that, but the cost actually tutroductible because 121 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: it's actually running business. So in reality, if you if 122 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: you think how much people will be paying, not to 123 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: mention of course they never pay because they passity to 124 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 3: you and to me. Every time I get a coffee, 125 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: my cost probably will go about twenty says up to 126 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: cover the cost. 127 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: And I can understand that one. 128 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: So you pay to hire a public place that belongs 129 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: to the public, not to the council. It belongs to 130 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: the public, and we collect this money on behalf of 131 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: the public. And that's why rage can be kept to 132 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: two point fiber tendency insteads two point six. 133 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: Or two points. 134 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: Well, look, I guess you and I could talk to 135 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: we're blue in the face about the old Fresco dining fees. 136 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you don't think 137 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: that this is a good idea. This uh, this you know, 138 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: reintroduction of it of a different voucher scale. 139 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: The market is prepared. 140 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: To put anything they want the council to be debated, 141 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: to be discussed, and the other twelve oldermen will make 142 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: a decision of that one. But again, as the year before, 143 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: why only the Alfresco, Why we stop there? We don't 144 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: go to the bookshops, the placers will sell clothes, the participlaces, 145 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: we're actually selling shoes because they're not doing as well 146 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: as the hospitality does. 147 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: SoCon Is it just a matter of you know, like 148 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: the businesses do just need to suck it up, just 149 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: sort of go well, you know, look, give you've got 150 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: to accept that sometimes these face have to go up. 151 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: Well, the same business complained here about Alfresco. They're prepared 152 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: to pay a per square meter rate in the waterfront 153 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: because when they actually rent a property in the waterfront, 154 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 3: they rent the whole package, both inside and outside. 155 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: So and in. 156 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: Some cases the cost to rent properties in the waterfront's 157 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: much much higher that one they pay here for Al Fresco. 158 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: It's going to be bugger all in terms of revenue 159 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: rising though for you guys, isn't well. 160 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 3: The thing again is that money that we actually forgive 161 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: to may have to come from somewhere else. And the 162 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: council budget, as to you before, it has to be balanced. 163 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: We can't go into deficit. That's what the law requires. 164 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: So if we actually take money from one place, we 165 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: have to get from somewhere else. The voucher the money 166 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: came from a parking levee, so we had to take 167 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: money out of the parking levee. At the time we 168 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: had also forgiven the parking fees. 169 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: It does sound like the council has really made up 170 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: its mind on these El Fresco dining fees. Though you know, 171 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: I know that you've said that. You still people can 172 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: still give that feedback, but it sounds like you've made 173 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: up your mind like it's going up. 174 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: Well, answer to you before, again, the council has a budget, 175 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: we allocated it might of different areas. If I take money, 176 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: even a thousand dollars somewhere, I have to take it 177 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: from somewhere else. And again I said to you has 178 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: pointed out quite rightly the other day on the radio, 179 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: why only the hospitality industry about the rest of the 180 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: industry in the territory that's not doing as well as 181 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: the hospitality industry. And I think that's a valid argument. 182 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: Council. Is there another meeting tonight. 183 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: Yes, there is a number of issues. Well, renaming the 184 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: Chinatown cup pack. We had consultations with the people from them. 185 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: The I said, well, guys, why we call it Chinatown? 186 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: He says, well, we don't know. It was an original 187 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: idea from the original proponents here has nothing to do 188 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: with Chinatown. Chinatown was in Kavanagh Street, not in Smith Street. 189 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: Namely what you like it. So the proposal is actually 190 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: to call it the Dragonfly car pack, which the symbol 191 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: of the city of Darwin. We're talking about the Natal 192 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 3: Places temporary closure. The owner of Monsoon they ask us, 193 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: because of a lot of people going through, they want 194 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: to put some ballarts temporarily from Thursday to Sunday between 195 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 3: eight pm and four am, just for security of people 196 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: quelling to. 197 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,119 Speaker 2: Scan the you know, the Q code where they get. 198 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 2: It's a good idea. 199 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: We had a couple of property owners says oh no, 200 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: it's going to be permanent, and I said, no, no, 201 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: it's going to be temporarily. Oh no, we don't like 202 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: it matter effect our future future development. It's not going 203 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: to affect it's development. It's eight pm to four am 204 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 3: theresday to Sunday public safety. 205 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not the bigause. 206 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: And I reckon so long as it is just between 207 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: those days and those times, it'll be fine. You know 208 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people do use it throughout the day, 209 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: but it is about that patron safety. And I think 210 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: that you're talking about people who in a lot of 211 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: cases have been drinking as well. You've got to make 212 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: sure that the people are saying. 213 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: Ruth Palmer's jumping up and down. Ruth usually does that. 214 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: One obviously does like it because he reckons that we 215 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: are against property owners. 216 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: I mean, Ruth, come down, it's for public shelf. 217 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: We will give Ruth the opportunity to respond to that, 218 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: because it's. 219 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 3: The first time me and Ruth getting along really well. 220 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: But we have our argument because he represents a good 221 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: that council. 222 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely anyway, regardless of what she said, why do you 223 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: think it's a good idea that this closes? 224 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: Because if I save a person's life from injury or 225 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: death because something can go wrong. 226 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a good idea, and so tonight it 227 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: will go to a vote. 228 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: It goes through what tonight to discuss about it, and. 229 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: So between the hours of just tell us again the 230 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: hour eight pm. 231 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: And four am Thursday to Sunday. 232 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I don't have an issue with it. I 233 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: think if we can keep people safe between those hours. 234 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I've frequented any any 235 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: venue at that time. 236 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: You kids, kady As, you probably know you don't go 237 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: to this kind of place at that time. 238 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: Where are you going, ma'am? 239 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: The other thing, of course, tonight we're discussing in a 240 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: proposal to have a new friends reach friendly city with 241 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: den Pasa. We're approached by them Passa, which is really 242 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: interesting because the lord, the mayor of proposed to me 243 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: that the den Persa city is prepared to pay the 244 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: quarantine expenses for workers to come from Bali to Darwin 245 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: because they're really desperate. 246 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: Right there is the proposals. 247 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: I need to discover that with the government, because of 248 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: course there has to be space to quarantine. 249 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: Them in what type of in what type of jobs 250 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: are we talking about hospitality, right, so that put for this. 251 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: They want to do that one. That's the momentary informal proposal. 252 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: We have to do a lot of work to find 253 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: out if we can do it. Who wants these workers, 254 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: how are they're going to pay them? Where are we 255 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: going to quarantine them? But then that shows you have 256 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: desperate the industry in Bali is and course nobody goes 257 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: there anymore. 258 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: And can't go there anymore. 259 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: So who's that informal proposal come from? 260 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: The mayor of them persides? 261 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they'd be doing it tough, there's no doubt. 262 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: And we've got to work a shortage. So you sort 263 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: of think if there's one that we can marry these 264 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: things up. 265 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: You have to take the public safety to consideration. If 266 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: they're going to come, they have to be quarantined. At 267 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: the moment, I think we're struggling with the impacts. We've 268 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: got too many people come from India yesterday to another 269 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: airplane from Turkey, so we've got a problem. 270 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: The other problem I can point back on the agenda. 271 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: I know it's for quite some times. 272 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: But I believe that there are actually the defense heav 273 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: We had the moment and then of course, some people 274 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 3: are working for impacts, so we have to find out 275 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: whether it's going to be empty. 276 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: The other thing, of course, we've got is the. 277 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: People not taking up vaccination, and that really concerns me. 278 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: And the one that conserves is a lot is the 279 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 3: added vaxers have managed to find their way into the 280 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: digitous communities. They have talked a lot of FIBs to 281 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: the digitous people, scare the settlers and people in the 282 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: communites don't do the vaccine anymore. 283 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: Some of them they said, it's a white. 284 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: Man's disease going to affect us the problem if it comes. 285 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 2: If by any chance hopefully not comes in our community. 286 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 3: The ones we're really going to copy big time are 287 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: people from indigenous communities because they're the ones where the commobilities. 288 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: I had Indigenous mayors pleading with me to talk to 289 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: the health department, which I have. I've had people Indigenous 290 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: people telling me they're really, really worried, which I have. 291 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: But I had people hear and down telling me they're 292 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: really worried if something goes wrong. And my answer is, 293 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: you're offered a vaccine, why you don't do it? 294 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: I asked Michael Ganna last week with we just need 295 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: to make the vaccine open to everybody over the age 296 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: of sixteen in the Northern Territory right now. Rather than 297 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: doing it in these tiers, let's just get everyone done. 298 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: They started in another Springs, but it needs to be expanded. 299 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: The problem we've got is we have to counteract this 300 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: untruth by the anti vaxers. They re are, oh they're 301 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: getting throng bosses. Well, twenty four people in two and 302 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: a half million is about one tenth of what women 303 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: get that take contraceptive pills. Yeah, and nobody mentioned that, 304 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: but everybody measure what the vaccine Court is. 305 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: Lord Mayor Convat Scarla's always good to chat with you, 306 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: spirited this morning as always. Thank you. 307 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: Sorry about that, but my public health background comes into 308 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: the surface. 309 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: Good on you, con thank you. That's the Lord Mayor 310 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: of Darwin, Convat Scarlas on Mix