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Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers.

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Speaker 2: Now I always remember you is Yeah, there was a

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Speaker 3: That's the way it is. I do remember that, but.

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Speaker 2: I remember you as being the one person that I

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Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mom

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Speaker 1: and dad.

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Speaker 3: God, this is doctor Justin Colson.

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Speaker 2: I'm the author of six books about raising happy families

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Speaker 2: and dad to six daughters. Here with Kylie, mum to

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Speaker 2: our six daughters, and we are well, this is a

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Speaker 2: how it's going to go. We're chatting in the lead

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Speaker 2: up to Father's Day with our dads and.

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Speaker 3: It's my dad's turn.

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Speaker 2: I'm a bit nervous about what he's going to disclose

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Speaker 4: Think he can say anything worse than mum, Mum put

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Speaker 3: I just wasn't an easy kid to live with.

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Speaker 2: I kind of I feel like I'm the poster child

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Speaker 2: for every every parent who's worried about their kids being

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Speaker 2: little rat bags. While they're young and then growing up

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Speaker 2: wasn't anyway. Let's stop talking about me. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: my dad and introduce him. My dad's name is Chris,

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Speaker 2: Chris Coulson. And when we were young, when I was

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Speaker 2: growing up, Mum and Dad always had this entrepreneurial thing.

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Speaker 2: So Dad worked in insurance when I was first born,

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Speaker 2: Became pretty much one of the, if not the largest

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Speaker 2: Bunch of trucks, a bunch of men, and been doing

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Speaker 2: us right now, Hey Dad, Hi Joe.

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Speaker 5: Hi Carly, Hey you reckon, you're nervous far out.

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Speaker 6: Come't doubt it's not that bad. You're just talking to us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we are the number one rated parenting

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Speaker 2: and family podcast in the country, so there may be

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Speaker 2: tens of thousands of other people who are listening as well.

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Speaker 3: But don't want to put any pressure on you.

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Speaker 5: No, I'll just say hi to those tens of thousands

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Speaker 5: and put the white flag up.

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Speaker 4: Now, Dad, what was it like raising Justin? Do you

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Speaker 4: have a favorite memory.

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Speaker 3: Or just a memory?

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Speaker 6: Maybe you com pete him in a better light than

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Speaker 5: I Look, I think generally Justin was a good kid,

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Speaker 5: But no, I think in general Justin was a good kid.

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Speaker 5: He obviously had some really good friends, which helped. I

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Speaker 4: Gosh, is this the one where you showed up in

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Speaker 5: Hang on, hang on, hang on, this question. You asked

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Speaker 2: So it's been a long day at the beach. I'm

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Speaker 6: And do you think all of these details are making

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm just and I got thrown in

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine what I would do as a dad

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Speaker 2: In just a sec we're going to ask Dad what

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Speaker 2: his first impressions were of you, Kylie, missus Happy Families

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Speaker 4: It's the Happy Families Podcast, the podcast for the time

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Speaker 4: poor parent who just wants answers now.

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Speaker 6: And today we have a very special guess.

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Speaker 3: We have your Dad.

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Speaker 4: We're celebrating Father's Day this week and we thought it

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Dad, question for you. Yes, first impressions of Kylie.

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Speaker 2: They go, honey, you're perfect for me, and even my

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Speaker 3: No, wonder it's been so good.

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Speaker 4: I'm wondering, Dad, when you think about Justin as a

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Speaker 5: You know, probably not? No, I don't think too much

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Speaker 6: Are you proud of who has become?

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Speaker 5: What I what I love about Justin now is what

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Speaker 5: of gone from that kid who wasn't real keen to

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Speaker 2: What do you know now as a dad? You wish

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Speaker 2: you knew way back when it started forty plus nearly

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Speaker 5: You know, that's a difficult question. If I probably needed

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Speaker 2: I guess it's so funny to say that, because I

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Speaker 2: And I remember coming to you about all kinds of

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Speaker 2: Mum's always been a lot more emotionally expressive, I think

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Speaker 2: So my favorite memories of Dad that was a truck

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Speaker 3: And he would literally like, I don't like.

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Speaker 2: Having long, long, long conversations with our kids. Even now,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he called upon the bishop one morning for advice,

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Speaker 2: So we used to sing that and cannon Ball and

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Speaker 2: memories there. But I also remember Dad would take us camping.

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Speaker 5: I hate camping, but.

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Speaker 6: I never knew the dad went camp Dad took us camping.

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Speaker 2: We would go on holidays and I remember, you know what,

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Speaker 3: Which was just down the road from where we lived.

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Speaker 3: I see this.

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Speaker 2: Great, big smile on my dad's face, and he's just

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Speaker 3: Dad caught a really great wave. Do you remember that one? Dad?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, to be fair, justin like to get context here,

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Speaker 6: Sounds about right, Dad.

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Speaker 5: So I was basically trying to just get a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was my wave, I'm just saying. So

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Speaker 2: we just had fun. Dad was just always willing to

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Speaker 4: I'm wondering, as we close up this conversation whether or

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, there's been so many opportunities in life

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Speaker 5: To see, you know, the posterity moving forward. It's been awesome.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Dad, it's been really, really really nice to talk

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Speaker 2: with you about this stuff. Thanks for joining us and

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Speaker 2: being so open and honest about what you've shared.

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Speaker 3: I want you to know I love you, Love you too.

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Speaker 5: Happy Father's Day and Happy Father's Day to you, and thank.

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Speaker 3: You, Kylie. So we really hope that you've enjoyed the conversation.

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