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Speaker 1: Today we have a very special bonus episode we have

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Speaker 1: with us today, Anthony Field. Now know what you're thinking,

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Speaker 1: who is Anthony?

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you who he is.

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Speaker 1: He is Anthony Wiggle, the Blue Wig Girl.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure everyone out there knows the Wiggles, but for

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Speaker 2: anyone who may be thinking, don't know who that is.

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Speaker 2: Wiggles are founded in nineteen ninety one. They are globally

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest children's acts ever ever. They have

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Speaker 2: saved me countless how many times? But only do my

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Speaker 2: kids like watching them? I absolutely love them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, They've been a part of my family and I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing your family since the dawn of time.

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Speaker 2: It was one of those ones where when I'm like,

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Speaker 2: don't get nervous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a bit like that.

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Speaker 3: He's just a.

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Speaker 2: Normal guy, but he is an absolute legend and we

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Speaker 2: had a quick little chat. We had thirty minutes. He's

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Speaker 2: a man who has wanted right now.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and it was an absolute privilege to have Anthony

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Speaker 1: Wiggle on the podcast.

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Speaker 4: So enjoyed this episode.

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Speaker 1: We're ready, wiggle, wiggle your.

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Speaker 2: Fingers high in the sky. We're ready, wiggle wiggle. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to three doting dads.

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Speaker 3: I'm Maddie Jay, I'm Ash, I'm Anthony.

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Speaker 2: This is a podcast all about parenting.

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Speaker 1: It's the good, the bad, and relatable.

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Speaker 2: And if you've come for any type of advice, clear

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Speaker 2: although we when we have a guest, we might get

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Speaker 2: some today. Actually, I feel like if ever there was

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Speaker 2: going to be advice given today, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: from our guest Anthony.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: But no pressure, no pressure at all.

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Speaker 3: But I had a good role model with my dad.

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Speaker 3: I think the best thing you ever said to me

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Speaker 3: was I make mistakes.

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Speaker 1: That's straight away. We just dished out to wisdom, which

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Speaker 1: is amazing. So I'm looking forward to it. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: I said to myself as I was coming up the elevator,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not gonna You're not gonna pass you

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Speaker 2: where you go too much. But I honestly mean this

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Speaker 2: when it is an honor to be in your presence

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Speaker 2: totally here.

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Speaker 1: You've been a part of both of our families. For

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a nineties baby, was born in nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 1: Matt's a little bit older, nearly forty. I like to

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Speaker 1: point that out a lot. But now we've both got

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Speaker 1: kids in the era of Wiggles and we're just chatting

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Speaker 1: on the way here about just jogged my memory when

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Speaker 1: I had my first child, and I don't remember being

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Speaker 1: a toddler and being entrapped by the Wiggles as these

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Speaker 1: Oscar and he was just going mental. I'll try this

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Speaker 1: He's four now and he's just like got the pop

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Speaker 3: But the day will come when he goes Wiggles is

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Speaker 2: I was like, no, it's not, keep watching it.

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Speaker 3: You'll keep watching it whit kids. When my kids were

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Speaker 1: You sure I know it does like that's been on

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Speaker 1: place cool?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you have well done, mate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I force my kids to watch it before we

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Speaker 2: get into the Wiggles. You mentioned your dad, do you

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Speaker 3: I know I think my dad because I love my mom.

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Speaker 3: But Dad was He was unbelievable. He did revolutionary things

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Speaker 3: like this is how old I am? Right, I'm nineteen

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Speaker 3: He sat us all down. Now I was only six

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Speaker 2: How old were you at this point?

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Speaker 3: I was six or seven? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. One time I came to you know, I'd done

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Speaker 3: It's and don't tell your mum. He was good man.

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Speaker 2: So then it was your mom, though, who introduced you

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Mom went through all the grades for the piano,

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Speaker 2: We'd love music and so of all you want to seven.

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Speaker 3: Some of it for us. Tortured me as a kid

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Speaker 3: And you know, it was funny. There was no preschools.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was always disposable, so I'm not I'm not.

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Speaker 3: What about dummies?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well he's a dummy guy. Mine grow out

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Speaker 3: But it's not a guilt. My kids were dummies. Dummies

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Speaker 2: But do you think growing up, I think my first

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Speaker 2: that's what I want to do. So when your mom

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Speaker 2: introduced to music in your head where you're like, this

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Speaker 3: Well it actually wasn't because when I was seven. You

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Speaker 3: And then nine months later we had a child. Nicky

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Speaker 3: was the same. Would we change it? Of course? Not.

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Speaker 3: Most beautiful, beautiful thing I happened to us.

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Speaker 1: Being a dad and a wiggle. I mean, when your

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Speaker 1: kids are at the age where it was like really

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Speaker 1: influential to the Wiggles, we're doing daycare drop well from

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Speaker 1: kids would be like in.

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Speaker 3: Awe or look, you know, we've got the documentary out

448
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Speaker 3: at the moment and my kids went So I went

449
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Speaker 3: watched them with my kids and after it they said,

450
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Speaker 3: we three of them, we didn't realize until we've seen

451
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Speaker 3: this how close friends you were with Murray, Jeff and

452
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Speaker 3: Greg because we were on the road nine months, ten

453
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Speaker 3: months a year. That's the truth. I was away so much.

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Speaker 3: They never saw Murray, gregor Jeff because the last thing

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Speaker 3: you're going to do when you get back to australiaut

456
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Speaker 3: the guy. So that was you know, my boy has

457
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Speaker 3: a little bit of anxiety. He's sixteen years old now,

458
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Speaker 3: six foot three, big boy, but he has anxiety which

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Speaker 3: comes from when he was a kid because I was

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Speaker 3: away so much. So there's looked the good side. We

461
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Speaker 3: provided great education and lovely home and all that sort

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Speaker 3: of stuff. The other side they had to put up

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Speaker 3: with me been gone so much, you know, So it's

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Speaker 3: you know the way it is.

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Speaker 1: I guess did you ever have to perform at one

466
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Speaker 1: of their parties like a kid's party?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I know. We provided Dorothy all that for the

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Speaker 3: local schools and stuff. But when they got to about

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Speaker 3: six seven eight, the wheels were no longer cool. I

470
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Speaker 3: used to threaten that I'll drop my feat or I

471
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Speaker 3: go into the classroom seeve potato. Would you like that

472
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Speaker 3: a joke? Dad? Stop stop now, now it's cool again.

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Speaker 3: But at the time from about eight, dull about you know, fifteen, It's.

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Speaker 2: Like, I bet, I bet we're at a stage now.

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Speaker 2: Our kids are four and two and already now I'm

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Speaker 2: starting to think about the stages of parenting like a

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Speaker 2: newborn phase. And I'm wondering, like, I wonder if I'm

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Speaker 2: going to miss that the most when I'm old, or

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Speaker 2: maybe it'll be when they're teenagers, you know, when they're adults,

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Speaker 2: that's what I'll miss. Is there a phase of parenting

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Speaker 2: that you look back on and you miss the most?

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Speaker 3: You know, when young toddlers mispronounced words, that's the best.

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Speaker 3: I love it. My little boy Antonio used to do

484
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Speaker 3: the wi feil so lollies were yog yes, And I

485
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Speaker 3: had a great moment with him one time because Mickey,

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Speaker 3: when I came back, she go like, hey, you looking

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Speaker 3: after him? Getting some time? And one time I was

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Speaker 3: taking him into the town and he started going bucked beans.

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Speaker 3: I like bucked beans, buck beans. He started having a

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Speaker 3: freak out, So pulled over and went into was seven eleven.

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Speaker 3: Took him in and I found bucked beans and I

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Speaker 3: said buck beans and he goes, oh, bucked beans beans.

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Speaker 3: He went crazy. Anyway, he's crying, he's on the ground.

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Speaker 3: Buck beans, he's a buck beans and turned out they

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Speaker 3: were jelly beans.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. I love her when they mispronouncing him for sure.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it was ever something that you tried

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Speaker 2: to instill into your kids that the wiggles are something

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Speaker 2: that you could you guys could do as a career.

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Speaker 3: Never never, never never, really a long way from being

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Speaker 3: a stage dad. And Mickey has been brilliant as again

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Speaker 3: that philosophy go where you want to go, saying that

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Speaker 3: there was a little bit of an influence because outlaunge

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Speaker 3: room there's a full drum kid, a guitar, like you know,

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Speaker 3: there's everything there for them. So if they became a

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Speaker 3: doctor or a lawyer, I would have been disappointment.

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Speaker 1: But being a doctor and a lawyer that could also

508
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Speaker 1: play guitar, that's the way to look at totally.

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Speaker 2: What was it like then sharing the stage with your

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Speaker 2: daughter for the first time.

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Speaker 3: Again, it was because you know, Lucia went to the

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Speaker 3: Australian Ballet School for three years where she boarded and

513
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Speaker 3: I was on to it, so I didn't really see

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Speaker 3: her as much as I would have liked to but Maria,

515
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Speaker 3: my other daughter. She's an actor. And I hate to say,

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Speaker 3: but sometimes you pigeonhole your children. Maria was the singer.

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Speaker 3: We called it like she's a singer. She's the dancer.

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Speaker 3: Antonio is the drama guitar players. Pretty amazing, but it happened.

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Speaker 3: We did the reweigled album. We did all these covers

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Speaker 3: of Australian songs were lime cordial. Because she suggested we

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Speaker 3: did Apple Crumble and we came to the studio she

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Speaker 3: said to be there and I said, okay, we needed

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Speaker 3: someone do the harmony. I never knew she song. She

524
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Speaker 3: said I could jump in and do it. She did

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Speaker 3: this harmony and our our soundman when we were looking

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Speaker 3: for a blue wiggle, said why don't you sings? And

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Speaker 3: she sings okay, And I asked her, and you well, okay.

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Speaker 3: Never ever pushed her, never was. So it's been great.

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Speaker 3: She's been amazing on the road. And you guys will

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Speaker 3: know as your kids get older and older, yeah, they

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Speaker 3: start giving you, you know, you start being the guy's

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Speaker 3: giving them advice. She's like dad, you know, we've got

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Speaker 3: to meet and greet in twenty minutes, or she knocks

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Speaker 3: so much, or are you ready yet?

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Speaker 1: Just keeping you as a dad, what do you think

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Speaker 1: your most proudest moment is with your kid?

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Speaker 3: You know, each kid, each child makes you proud, you know.

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Speaker 3: Like Antonio, he suffers from an aphlaxus, so he's in

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Speaker 3: a phylactic and I'm so proud of him the way

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Speaker 3: that he just accepts it and goes okay, and he

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Speaker 3: kind of very sensible about it. When you're a parent,

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Speaker 3: when they're four and too, that's one of the most

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Speaker 3: frightening things that someone could give you a child a nut. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you know, but I've been so proud of the

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Speaker 3: way that he's taken on that challenge, you know, and

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Speaker 3: that's been great. Maria's works and works and works at

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Speaker 3: his studies and stuff like that. She wants me to

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Speaker 3: acting and she's brilliant, and the same thing. I'm just

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Speaker 3: proud of them, how they've just got their own destiny.

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Speaker 3: Marie is the one because she was the singer. I said,

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Speaker 3: would you ever like to be wiggled? She said no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: And I'm really happy with that, you know.

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Speaker 2: So Yeah, time is running out. I'm going to ask

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Speaker 2: one last question. Can you confirm the official term for

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Speaker 2: a young wiggle a toddler wiggle? Is it a wiglet?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I know, because that'd be a female usually.

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Speaker 2: Is there an official term for a young wiggle fan?

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Speaker 3: No, there should be. Yeah, have you guys got to know?

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Speaker 2: No, back to the.

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Speaker 1: Drawing board, so we didn't even think about that. We've

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Speaker 1: got to keep a gender neutral Matthew.

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Speaker 2: I do just want to before you go on, behalf

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Speaker 2: of parents from not just Australia, but from all around

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Speaker 2: the world. Thank you for everything you've done to make

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Speaker 2: our lives just a little bit easier.

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Speaker 3: From all the dads. Thank you guys for handing out

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Speaker 3: the advice.

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Speaker 2: An absolute pleasure. Anthony, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: That's the quickest half hour.

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Speaker 1: Is that a good thing?

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Speaker 2: I hope, I know it's we could do this all day.

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Speaker 2: But thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Holy shit.

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Speaker 1: And I felt a bit like that afterwards, because such

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Speaker 1: a great guys. It just felt like a really good chat.

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Speaker 2: I blinked my eyes. It was over, and thirty minutes

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Speaker 2: was up. I was and I was like, don't go.

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Speaker 2: I felt like you wanted to stay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. If we had a couple of beers

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Speaker 1: in the fridge crack them open.

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Speaker 2: I say that fucking guy who came in and knocked

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Speaker 2: on the door.

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Speaker 3: It's like, don't have enjoyed this too much?

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Speaker 1: It's like, does have any anything you're interrupting.

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons why we had the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: sit down with Anthony Wiggle Anthony Field is because there

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Speaker 2: is a cracking new documentary that's just come out tells

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Speaker 2: the story of the Wiggles.

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Speaker 1: And no, the opening scene gave me goosebumps, just the

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Speaker 1: VHS segments in that just nostalgia and I really really

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Speaker 1: just brang back a whole lot for me early on,

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Speaker 1: like straight away, oh shit, here we go.

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Speaker 2: There was a really well done doctament. Like I'm not

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Speaker 2: not just saying it because we spoke to Anthony, but

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Speaker 2: it was really well done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you grew up with the Wiggles and you're

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Speaker 1: in your thirties, now watch it, because you just brang

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Speaker 1: back so many memories for me, Like I brang back

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Speaker 1: memories from you know, spending time with my grandmother. She

601
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Speaker 1: used to VHS everything, and then all these little things

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Speaker 1: about the nineties and that just I'm like, shit, I

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Speaker 1: forgot about that.

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Speaker 2: But also with some of their songs. There was because

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Speaker 2: the guys met when they were in early childcare at

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Speaker 2: UNI when you're studying. A lot of the songs were

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Speaker 2: written with like what they were being taught at university

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Speaker 2: at the forefront, so like, you know, kids like actions,

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Speaker 2: they wanted action.

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Speaker 1: A lot of child psychology in a lot of the songs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's amazing to get that background on those songs.

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Speaker 2: And even like how they came up with Dorothy.

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Speaker 1: Captain feather Sword. I was like, because Anthony in the

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Speaker 1: doco actually says everyone was going to parties dressed as

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Speaker 1: but it was a pirate and a dinosaur. But we

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Speaker 1: want it, we want the guns, weapon or weapons, so

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Speaker 1: feather genius.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good. It is such an awesome docco

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Speaker 2: And if you want to watch it, it's on Prime

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Speaker 2: Video and it's called Hot Potato The Story of the Wiggles.

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Speaker 2: It's out right now and we absolutely bloody loved it.

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Speaker 2: And also if you haven't listened to The Wiggles, I

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Speaker 2: don't need to say this, but hey, I recommend it.

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Speaker 2: And also if you enjoyed this episode, as always, we

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Speaker 2: would love it more than anything if you would just

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Speaker 2: give us a little review subscribe five stars, send it

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Speaker 2: to a mate and if there's any other parents out.

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Speaker 4: There, could be guys, could be girls.

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Speaker 2: Let us know who'd want us to speak to and

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Speaker 2: we will try and get them on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: We will stalk them, hunt them down, get them on.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see you guys next Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country

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Speaker 2: throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community.

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Speaker 1: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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Speaker 1: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraight Islander

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Speaker 1: peoples today. This episode was recorded on Gadagle Land