1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Get a. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional oversharer. 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: about their highs as well as their lows, all in 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: a bid to. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Inspire us to fearlessly fail. Hallo Friends. 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: Another creative episode few I know, I know, I am 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: a sucker for interviewing actors, but this one is really interesting. 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Her name is SNAr Shaikh. 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: She is an incredible actor but really opens up about 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: the importance of keeping kind of like having many pots 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: on the stove, she writes. 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: She producers. 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: Sonar obviously acts as well. As we talk about some 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: of her great acting projects. You might know it from 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: Dive Club or Class of O seven. We also talk 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: about rejection, the waiting game. So if you have any 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 2: kind of a creative spark, this episode is for you 21 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: lots to learn, really really honest chat to Sonny. Thank 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: you so much for jumping on the pod. 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the pod. 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: This beautiful actress sitting across from me, Sanarshaik, thank you 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: so much for jumping on. 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I've been deep diving you. Oh yeah, I had 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: so much fun soaking up your work. 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: Oh. 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: I have a theory and I could be wrong. 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: I feel like you are an a type like personality, 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: hard worker. 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: Would you say that's true, You're like, no, Lola. 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: No, I think there's definitely aspects of that that aretro. 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: I think like the dedication that I have to like, yeah, 35 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: making this career successful is very a type. But sometimes 36 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: like my process skews a little bit. I'm like, I 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: am such an overthinker, Like it's insane. 38 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: You preach into the choir. 39 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 3: I explain this to some of my friends all the time, 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 3: like my decision making process is what I think I 41 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: should do, what I think I should do in the moment, 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: what is socially acceptable, and then like what's like my 43 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: general vibe and then what I want and. 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: Does that work for you? 45 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: Though? 46 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: No, Okay, I was like, well, if it works, it works. 47 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: So I mean, I don't know if that is a time, 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: but probably not. But I think to answer your question 49 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 3: like yes and no. 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: No, But I'm excited that you answered this way because 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: I think when it comes to acting, there's one part 52 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: of it that is like the process when you're on 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: set or you're filming, or you're doing script preparation, any 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: of that. And there's another part that often isn't taught 55 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: in acting schools, which is the business side of it. 56 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you. 57 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: Know, being super early or being on time, or like 58 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: networking and taking meetings and building relationships, having the right reps. 59 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: Like that's a very different skill set that you kind 60 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: of need a balance of the both as an actor. 61 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: Don't you think. 62 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, especially now, like I feel like that's so important, 63 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: more now than ever, because that's so crazy. Like I 64 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: was just having this conversation with a friend the other 65 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: day and we were talking about I wish there was 66 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: just like more mentorship in the side of the business, 67 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: like the side too, because I started, I had literally 68 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: no idea. I was like, Oh, I'll just go to 69 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: acting classes, I'll just watch a bunch of movies and 70 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: I'll you know, wait for my auditions to come through, 71 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: which is I. 72 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: Think a very fair representation what we think like initially, 73 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: but now I. 74 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: Just feel like there's so many like there's just so 75 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: many more people trying to make this industry and it's 76 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: it's it's I don't want to say crowded. That's not true. 77 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: Like it's just like it's so saturated with like a 78 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: lot of talent, and you really have to be like, okay, 79 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: so I need a network, like you said, I need 80 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: to you know, understand the more business side of it, 81 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: like do I need to create my own stuff? Do 82 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: I need to do more than just like wait yeah. 83 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: And then also like just I had a really great 84 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: advice actually from a fellow class of over seven ian 85 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: who was Steph Tisdale. She's incredible, by the way, like 86 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: so talented, so funny, like really inspirational. She's always like 87 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: got her like attention on lots of different things, which 88 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: is like so exciting. And she said to me, you 89 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: gotta you kind of always have to have your fingers 90 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: in a lot of different plots, you know, because you 91 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 3: never really know like what's going to take off, especially 92 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: in those biz like you know, you could be working 93 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: on a show film project, or you could be working 94 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: on like a scriptwriting thing, or you could be working 95 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: on a bit of theater. You could be working on 96 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: like some reality thing here. And then she's like, you 97 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: never really know like what's going to take off, So 98 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 3: just kind of like do it all because then when 99 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 3: one does, you can be like, Okay, cool, I'm gonna 100 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: do that now, and then I'm do that now. And 101 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 3: I mean that was like I thought that was very 102 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: helpful when like I I find that in that piece 103 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: of advice very helpful when I am feeling stuck. 104 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: It's such a great it's such a great way of 105 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: looking at it because I think if you for the 106 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: hardest thing that I find. I live in Los Angeles 107 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: and audition a fair bit as an actor, but the 108 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 2: waiting is really hard. 109 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god. And and a lot of. 110 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: People don't know this, but if you don't book, you 111 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: often don't get a response. It's not like you get, hey, 112 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: we love that, we just needed someone with blonde hair 113 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 2: or whatever. Like you never get the feedback. And so 114 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: it's this constant like there's a bit of self doubt 115 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: and rejection and all that. So having multiple projects on 116 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: the go, all projects you work on, like whether it's screenwriting, whatever, 117 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: I can see why that would kind of like bring 118 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: joy in us still creative, but in all these different. 119 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: Avenues, because like I think it's also very important to 120 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 3: like always stay creative. Agree, and if you're just waiting 121 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: for that response, which is the worst part of the job. 122 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: By the way, that like that, I'm sure every actor 123 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: the world can relate to being like that. You know. 124 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: The worst part is like getting that message from your 125 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: agent being like you're on hold. 126 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: No, but also what a gift? What a gift? What 127 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: a gift? 128 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: So you're you're like you're like tormented because you're like, 129 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: oh my god, like this is amazing, because like, I'm 130 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: so lucky I gotten to this point. And but then 131 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: it's also like but it's not confirmed, and so then 132 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: you're just like sitting for what could be. Sometimes I 133 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 3: waited one time for two months. I go put on 134 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: hold for two months, but I can't say the projet name. 135 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 3: When it was two months, it was gonna change my life. 136 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: It was massive, and I was like, oh my god, 137 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 3: this is so much, and they were like sorry, they 138 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 3: went diferent, And that's the worst part. Like that, waiting 139 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: is horrible. But you know, like just to bring back 140 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: to like the doing other things. But you know, if 141 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: you're creating in the in the middle, it doesn't feel 142 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: as bad, like it doesn't feel like this is the 143 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: everything and if it doesn't work out, my life yeah, 144 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: because like at least you're you have got like a 145 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: different creative outlet, you know, brain is occupied with other 146 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 3: stuff rather than just sitting in your room being like God. 147 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: And not to get too hippie on you, but I 148 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,559 Speaker 2: feel like that energy brings more like creative energy brings 149 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: more creativity, brings more like you feel energetically kind of 150 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: more open for opportunity, whereas if you're like holding on 151 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: so tight, like this is life or death. If I 152 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: don't get this, everything is over. 153 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: Ye. 154 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: It's almost like the energetic actor gods can feel the 155 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: desperation and they're like no, no, no, We're gonna go 156 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: with someone, and it's like no. 157 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: Well, Like I actually was having this conversation with another 158 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: friend the other day and we were saying, it's so 159 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: interesting how people in the creative field often live a 160 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: life like kind of devoid of creativity because like it 161 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: gets like a two technical sometimes you're just doing this 162 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: waiting or you're like you're getting kind of like down 163 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: this one road and like I mean obviously not counting 164 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: like the one percentage in like how the world it 165 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: gets your creat all the time. But you know, like us, 166 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: like you know, it's like Oh, you're kind of always 167 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: just like waiting for the thing to happen and then 168 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: my life will start. Yeah, I've just had to wait 169 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: for this one thing and then my life will start. 170 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: Totally to I fully, you're you are one preaching the choir. 171 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: I have to ask though, because. 172 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: You've had I really loved watching Class O seven, So 173 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: it was so much fun to watch. 174 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: Teresa was your character's name. 175 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: And I also think your storyline like with IVF, like 176 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: so many people probably would have related to that, and 177 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: especially because you guys shot that over COVID, right, yeah, 178 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: like a lot. I don't know if you know this, 179 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: but I I froze embryos, but it was around that 180 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: time and so many people that did it around COVID 181 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: because everything shut down. 182 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: I had no idea. 183 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it really affected people because you would because 184 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: you know how it's all timed. 185 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know it's all timed out. Yeah, 186 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: And so I like when. 187 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: I was watching your character be like if I don't 188 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: get my shots in time, and like, yeah, I was like, this. 189 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: Is very true to what a lot of people probably would. 190 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: Have exp I understand that it was much different like 191 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: you guys were literally like floating essentially on your old 192 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: school grounds. Yeah, but what was that? From having interviewed 193 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: a couple of actors from the the cast, it feels 194 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: like there was this real camaraderie between all of you. 195 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: Was that also because you were working and shooting during COVID, 196 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: so you were kind of each other's like kind of 197 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: like lockdown in a weird kind of way. 198 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it. Yeah, man, it was like living It was 199 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: almost a bit of metals almost like if it like 200 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: life imitating art sort of thing. Yeah, you know show 201 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: obviously like we had we were locked in this bubble 202 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: and then like in reality we were like locked in 203 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 3: this bubble and so kind of just by the way 204 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: that things went, like we all just really developed such 205 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: close relationships with everyone and like we did become everyone's 206 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: like confidence sort. 207 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: Of, it feels like you're all still buttos. 208 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how I ali speak to all the girls, 209 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 3: which is great. I mean, obviously, like Claire's really good friend, 210 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: and I guess anyone who follows, like Emma Horn like 211 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: we're still really good friends. But all the girls. I 212 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: talk to all the girls all the time, like they 213 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: were awesome. We had such a great, great time shooting 214 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: like it was genuinely just like so much. 215 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: It seemed like so much fun. 216 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: Is there a like moment from and I know I'm 217 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 2: making you jog your memory back. Is there a moment 218 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: or a day on set where you're like, like it 219 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: was just a fun experience all round, or like, like 220 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: because there were so many odd things you all had 221 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: to do, like your character lost to toe at one stage, right, 222 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: and then like everyone got food poisoning from like them, 223 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, was there a day 224 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: on set where you're like, yeah, that one's probably my favorite. 225 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: Oh, there's so many, I probably have to have like 226 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: a top three. Yeah, a really like I've One of 227 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: the really funny days on set for me was the 228 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: fish poisoning one because we were all like dry reaching 229 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: and stuff and then it was obviously hilarious, but everyone 230 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: across the table was just pretending to like be sick 231 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: except me because I mean, spoiler, because I don't need it. Yeah, 232 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 3: So that was that was really great. That was a 233 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: really fun day. It was just funny. It was silly. 234 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 3: Another really great day was when we had our sort 235 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: of big party like in the middle of the the 236 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: end of life. 237 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was. 238 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: Really great, mostly because like costume had worked so hard 239 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: on those costumes that we were all like the Blazers. 240 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: They did them up so beautifully, and they worked with 241 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 3: all of us on making a decision on like how 242 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: to you know, make them really true to our characters 243 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 3: and stuff. So that was really fun. That was that 244 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: was a really fun day. And then set obviously, mate 245 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: the whole looks so great. So then there was another 246 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: There was one really really really funny day actually, now 247 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: that I think about, it was when when me, Steph 248 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: and Emma went to go confront Claire's character and she's 249 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: sitting on the outside dunny because it was just. 250 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: Your character got a few raw ends of the deal, 251 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: really did. 252 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 3: But on the day, it had rained so much and 253 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 3: the ground was so stodgy and like wet, and I 254 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: had this this like the what was it called the thing? 255 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: But because I like and I kept getting stuck and 256 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: I kept falling over, and Steph and Emma just like 257 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: could not keep to like even the crew like because 258 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: like I was just like falling with the star. 259 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: So good. 260 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: That was really like, that was a fun day. It 261 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: was really good. It was just it was also one 262 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 3: of those days like I'm sure like eyactors had this 263 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: onset where you're like. 264 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: Wow, this is my life. Yeah, this is really good 265 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: living the dream. 266 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: I have to because moving to dive watching Dive Club, 267 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: which I think was also shot during COVID. 268 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Dive Club was before even Yeah. 269 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you had to sail and scuba dive, yes, 270 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: what that would be scary? Yes, and ride a speedboat 271 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: yeah yeah, Like no, it was awesome. I I always 272 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: swore to myself that if I ever got on a 273 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: platform to talk about Die Club, which is now, I 274 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: would say justice for Dive Club, because I can't believe 275 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: we didn't get a second season. 276 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: No, people love it. 277 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: It needed a second season. 278 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: It really did need a second season to cement how 279 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: awesome it was because it was great, like I had 280 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: I think that it had such a great message for 281 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: young girls, like and the storyline was great, it was interesting, 282 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: like it had a bit of history in it, and 283 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: like it was so fun and yes, like we learned 284 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: how to dive before we started filming, which was awesome. Yeah, 285 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: I still do it till today. I love it so yeah, 286 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: which has been great. And then my husband learned how 287 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: to dive as well. So now whenever we travel we 288 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: always find places where we can dive or because of 289 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 3: Dive Club, which oh. 290 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: My goodness, I love it. Sharks I love talking about. 291 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 3: Haven't but there is apparently a place north of Sydney 292 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: in New South Wales where it's like a shark cave 293 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 3: where they allow nest and live. But because we want 294 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: to get our advanced diving ticket and Jel was like, oh, 295 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: we got to go do it. There will be sharks. 296 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: You kind of like swim up and it's just like 297 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: sharks of the I was like, oh, I don't know, 298 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: I'm too African for that. I guess if it's. 299 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: If it's if. 300 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: It's reef sharks, no props, I'm not really sure. 301 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: I think it's just I think it is. I think 302 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: it's just reef sharks. 303 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: If it's bull sharks, no things, I think it is resharks. 304 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: It's like the dosl Ones. Yeah, great, that's okay. So 305 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: that's on the agenda. But yes, we learned how to dive, 306 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: which was great, and then I also we also learned 307 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: how to sail. We had like not that many lessons 308 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: in sailing. I actually have a really funny story, so 309 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: that that kind of like Aerial Shark, where we're all 310 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: sailing and the water is really blue and it's beautiful, 311 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: and it's me and them, Like the first four main 312 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: girls with Georgia May. The sailing guy was sitting right 313 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: in the boat, and I didn't realize that I had 314 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: been given the task to like hoist like the male's mainsail, 315 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: which is sort of like really in charge of stearing 316 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: the boat, and the other girls just like sitting and 317 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: the breeze is blowing. And then this you can't see 318 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: it in the show, but there's quite a large Australian 319 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: man like topped underneath and he's like, relation the bight stile, 320 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: relase them, and I was like, I was trying, and 321 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: the girls are like, the breeze is blow and I'm like, literally, 322 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: like it's so hot. I'm using all my strength. I 323 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: was like, I'm just a girl, and all of a 324 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: sudden he's like, relize the bittyle, relize the right style, 325 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: and I was like, and then like got confused because 326 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 3: it was two overwhelm and I yank it, which makes 327 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: it go so much faster, and then the whole entire 328 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: boat just topples over and we all fall into the water, 329 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: but like it was like stinging season and we didn't 330 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: have any of our like gear on, no, and everyone 331 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: just topples off and you just see like camera just go. No. 332 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: It was like we all thought it was hilarious but 333 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: obviously like hair makeup, but like because all my hair 334 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: was dry and I was like, oh no, I was 335 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: seating and everyone I was just like, that's crazy. I 336 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: don't know who felt that was. I don't know, I 337 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: don't know, it was crazy. 338 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: It's so cool that you did it all yourselves as well, though, 339 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: Like that is oh so like like the idea of 340 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: like doing it. And also can I say Stevie got 341 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: a bit of spunk, Yeah, like I imagine. 342 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: Quite a fun. Eric did a play. 343 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this really cool scene where like your character 344 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: interrupts like this the Brecky and like starts seating everyone's pancake. 345 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah that scene, and you're just. 346 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: Like you're pretty much just like in your like and 347 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: you just like cut through the energy of the Brecky 348 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: And I know it just seemed like from watching it, 349 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: you all had so much fun yeah doing that show. 350 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: And was it shot like in Hamilton Islands. 351 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 3: It looked like Douglas. 352 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, like so beautiful. 353 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: It was sunning. It was so stunning, and I would 354 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: have felt like a dream it was so gorgeous. And 355 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 3: then all the all the shots that we shoot underwater 356 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: are on the reef, which is crazy. So like I 357 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: just really wish that I can't go back and do 358 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: it again. 359 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: Now you're a diver, you can just plan diving trips. 360 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: Do you know one thing I did that I would recommend. 361 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: This is totally aside. I've swim with whale sharks before 362 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: in the Maldives. Yeah, my god, do it. You don't 363 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: snorkel though, you just like, I'm sorry, you don't scuba. 364 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: You just snorkel sick because, like you, they come up 365 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: to the and you're just like literally swimming on top 366 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: of the water. But because it's whale sharks, it's like 367 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: three hundred meters deep, so it's quite dark, yeah water, 368 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: but they're super gentle and there's no bad sharks there, 369 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: so you feel really safe even though in the. 370 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's hot, yead that to your list. 371 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: And you can stay in overwater like Bungalow, so you 372 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: get up in the morning and then just swim in 373 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: the ocean. 374 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: Oh, my god, I've always wanted to go to one 375 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: those places since I watched that episode of the Kardashians. 376 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, well then yeah do. 377 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: It people dying him? 378 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very good. Okay. 379 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: So I know you've got from what I've stalked of 380 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: you and researched on IMDb, is you've got some stuff 381 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 2: that's kind of like in post production like Nomad? 382 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: Is that right? 383 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: And then hang on, there's this thing that you have written, 384 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: directed and produced. 385 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: Can you tell me about it? This is? Is it 386 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: the Yasmin? 387 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: And it's yes, mein and tesnem go to Swedish house 388 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: Mafia amazing. It's a bit of a mouth teach me, 389 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 3: teach me? 390 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 2: So like what how did that come about? 391 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: So it's one of those steps as they'll put your 392 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 3: fingers and ya. But it has always been like my 393 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: plan all along was to always write and do That's something 394 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: that I am also passionate about, like people I look 395 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 3: up to, like obvious you, Donald Glove because he's so cool, 396 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: and Phoebe weller Bridge and MICHAELA. Cole like and Rommy 397 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: Yusuf like, I love those guys. They're awesome, and so 398 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: I was just I was like, I need to create 399 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: a body of ied. Start creating a body of work. 400 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: How do I do that? I had written a film. 401 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 3: I was like, that's that's still miles away. I was like, 402 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: maybe if I wasn't a short film, start start small, 403 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 3: Gobi starts small, Goovig. And so I was really inspired 404 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: by Sugar Baby. 405 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: Have you seen No? 406 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: Maybe it's a Rachel Center film that she wrote with 407 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 3: her writing partner. 408 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: Amazing. 409 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: I think she wrote it. Oh my god, I don't 410 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: come from you, Rachel Senter school shipar Baby. Anyway, It's 411 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: about this girl who goes to a shiver with her parents, 412 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: but her ex girlfriend and her baby and her like 413 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: sugar daddy are there at the same time. I was 414 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 3: kind of like one of those like bottle episode everything 415 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: happens in the house, and I was like, okay, great. 416 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 3: I kind of love the idea of like doing all 417 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: the house as a drama kind of also just like 418 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: like death of a funeral where like everything happens there 419 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 3: sort of thing, and I was like great, and I 420 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 3: was like, but I also really wanted to be like 421 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 3: I want to, you know, talk about like cultural stuff 422 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 3: like I'm Muslim. I want to write a story about 423 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: like my background blah blah blah, And I was like, 424 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 3: you know, my dad never let me go to the 425 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: last Swedish house. My vehicle. 426 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: So good. 427 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: I was like, what if cousins, we're trying to go, 428 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: But it happened to fall on like E day, So 429 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: that's sort of like where it all started. So it's 430 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: by these two cousins who have these tickets to go, 431 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: and then they have to sort of get through their 432 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: whole day of ad and the one cousin is trying 433 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 3: to like muster up some like vip wristband, and then 434 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: the other cousins hasn't got perfession from her dad yet 435 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: to go and they sort of like work their way 436 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 3: through the day. Why did I write my first film 437 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 3: with so many characters? Like when we were doing it, 438 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 3: I was like this. 439 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: Is really hot, well because you were directing it as well, 440 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: and then like made the decision not to be in 441 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: it because I was like, no, I think I'll fuck 442 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 2: more on like the directing of it. 443 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: And it was the first like we had like four 444 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 3: days set aside to shoot, but like the main two days, 445 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 3: like it rained non stop. It was horrible. It was 446 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 3: so bad. But it was just one of those things. 447 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: It was just it was like, honestly just such a 448 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 3: great learning exercise, like and just being like being a 449 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 3: part of the process and start to finish. It is 450 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: also very helpful for me as an actor because even 451 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: when I was getting tapes coming through, like it was 452 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 3: really like informing like my own brain. Like I was like, 453 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: these girls are so good, like everyone is great. I 454 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 3: was like, but they're just not the character on the page. 455 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: And like in my brain, I was like, ah, like 456 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: I get it. I get it now, Like it's got 457 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: It's like yeah, okay, like you obviously have to have 458 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: like a shred of talent, but like sometimes it's just 459 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 3: about like you're just not the right character. And so 460 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: that was a really quite an eye opening like moment 461 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 3: for me as an actor, which I was. It was 462 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: awesome just to like soak up and learn so much 463 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: different things and about the camera. 464 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: Like directing. You would learn so much even just. 465 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: Like even just like how to like I had a 466 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: really great SOUNDI her name is Lara, and she was 467 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: like she came up to me, She's like, you're kind 468 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: of cutting a bit too soon. I was like, oh, 469 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: and she's like really great things happened, like moments after 470 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: like let them do something, just like just like back 471 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: off a little bit. 472 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, well that's great feedback. 473 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: It was, Yeah, I learned so much. I definitely felt 474 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: like I was throwing in the deep end because I 475 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: was just like, let's do it, and then it just 476 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 3: all happened. 477 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: This is something that will I think you'll lie this. 478 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: I trained in acting school in LA and one day 479 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: jan Anniston came into teachers in afternoon class and yeah, 480 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: and she talked about I think it's called Morning Wars here, 481 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: it's called the Morning Show in America. 482 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: And someone said like, how you. 483 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 2: Know everything feels so naturalistic and she's like, yeah, well, 484 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 2: we start rolling just when we're chatting, so before script, 485 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: like before they hit any of their lines or anything. 486 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: She's like, we'll start rolling and like I could be 487 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: asking about you diving or whatever, and she's like, just 488 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: to get that natural moment. And so it's the kind 489 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: of like what your soundy said about, like hey, just 490 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: like let him keep going for a bit, because you 491 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: get these little beautiful pockets of relationship before and after 492 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: the script when there might just be like a gesture 493 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: that is like so fun or like some beautiful like 494 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: and I imagine an editor is like, oh, you've just 495 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: given me gold, yes, you know, And so it's cool 496 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: to think about it with that, I guess that's more 497 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: of a producer's lens as well, which I saw you're 498 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 2: also a producer on it. 499 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: Amazing look at you go get her. 500 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: But of all the things, so obviously acting as you're like, 501 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 2: you love, but then there's the writing, there's a directing, 502 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: there's a producing. Which one felt the most like at 503 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: home in your heart, which one where you like, oh, yeah, 504 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: you know, sorry, it's a loaded question. 505 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 3: At the moment. At the moment maybe because I've had 506 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: like my first taste of it and I'm like, like, 507 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: just ravish for more directing. 508 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah wow. 509 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 3: I I said this to the director of Noma actually 510 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: when we were shooting ages ago, and he I was like, 511 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: I think I'm too I think I'm too opinionated to 512 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 3: be just an actor, and he was like, oh yeah. 513 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: And so I really enjoyed just being a part of 514 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: the whole process, like that was really filling my heart 515 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 3: with joy, maybe because like it was the first thing 516 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: that I did and I had written it, but I 517 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: was like, oh wow, I feel like I could really 518 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: feel at home here, Like I love the control that 519 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 3: I have, not in like a I'm adictor and listen 520 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: to me sort of way, but I was like, Okay, great, 521 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 3: like I have like a vision and I really want 522 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: to bring this to life sort of thing. So at 523 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 3: the moment, I would say directing even though like it 524 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: was my first one, but I still obviously like I 525 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 3: love acting so much, and whenever I watch stuff, I 526 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: just love like escaping into worlds and like whenever I 527 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 3: see you know, roles where I'm like, oh, would have 528 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 3: been great to be in that one. 529 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: Oh I love that you think like. 530 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: That always I'm just like there's stuff I'm was like, 531 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: not for me, but then there's stuff I'm like, yeah, 532 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: amazing what I would have done. 533 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 2: I had an actor, Hugh Sheridan on recently and he 534 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: had talked. He talked really open and he's like I 535 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: missed out on that role to someone's ah, not happy 536 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 2: about it, and he was really honest, and I was like, 537 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: this is what I want the pod for, Like I 538 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: want people, especially creatives to listen to it and be like, yeah, 539 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: there are two sides to acting. 540 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: There is the business side. 541 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to try riding on and directing in 542 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: that produce because I also think certain certain actors have 543 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 2: a director's mind and other actors have a producer's mind. Sure, 544 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: and then you've got the actor rider mind as well, 545 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: And obviously you're trying them all on because to me, 546 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: I believe it probably suits your personality as well. You 547 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: are that like also, so like why leave a stone unturned? 548 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: Like why not feel at all and see what? 549 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: Totally I don't even know, like what's going to click? 550 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: You know, if you don't at least try right and 551 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: you know, like maybe like two or three projects on 552 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 3: the line, I'll be like, oh, the pretty thing is 553 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 3: not for me. Yeah, the writing is not for me. 554 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 3: But you're like, oh, the direction kind of is, and 555 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: the act thing yes, But I mean you know, like 556 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: we're just inherently a creative, Yeah, creatures like like why 557 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: not give it a crack? 558 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah there's sneak and why not give it a crack? 559 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 3: I Yeah, I love all the ends. My husband's like 560 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: like he comes up with some really funny, funny, funny words. 561 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: Really, Oh my goodness, I love it well. Also because 562 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: I live in America. Sometimes I take I sound obviously 563 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 2: like a Boken and not at all well an America, 564 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: and they're like, I remember I had a meeting and 565 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 2: I was with an agent and they'd gone back and 566 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 2: forth months and months and like voiceover, sorry it. 567 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I had to do six different auditions. 568 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: What that was just mental? 569 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: And by the time I got to the final round, 570 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, they either like me or they don't, 571 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 2: and they go, well less, so why you hear? 572 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, look, I'm not here to fox spiders. 573 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 3: All right, and I would cracked it. 574 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then when they sign me that, they literally 575 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: were like, hey, we're not here as fuck spiders. 576 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: We want to sign you. 577 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 2: That was very cute, but like you are rolling a 578 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: dice when you do something like that. But I do 579 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: love Okay, So I feel like you are going to 580 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: have a really good answer for this. A lot of 581 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: people don't have an answer for this, but I have. 582 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 3: A fit sneaking feeling. 583 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: Oh funny you much dream gig. 584 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: If you haven't thought about it, come on, I feel 585 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 2: like you have or like working alongside someone or like 586 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: on a specific genre and feature for. 587 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 3: A long time. I would have said like Avengers, DC 588 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: World sort of thing fun, but honestly, like for Ages, 589 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: I've just been like, I've had two characters I wanted 590 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 3: to play so so badly, but I feel like maybe 591 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,239 Speaker 3: the ship has sailed on these, but I'll just tell 592 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: you them anyway. Princess Jasmine, I'm allowed. 593 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: Oh stop, the ship has not sailed on that, no way. 594 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 3: And lower Craft's Tim Rader, Oh wow, move over. 595 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: Angelina Jolie, I know I love and because it's it's 596 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: what's her name from? 597 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 3: Uh, Game of Throne, Sophie something. 598 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: Now, I don't know, don't know, I don't know, I 599 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: don't know. 600 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: I feel like both of them, can I also say 601 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: quite different? Yeah, like your picky like adventures is very specific, 602 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: but then you've got Larcroft, so yeah you like. 603 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: But see here this rings. This goes back to Stevie. 604 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: You like adventure absolutely, which I feel like to do 605 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: kind of anything superhero we Yeah, you've got to be 606 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: the interesting thing. I like knowing that that is your 607 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: like one of your goals, because you then become part 608 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: of quite a large conglomerate, like if you're a big 609 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: hero character, like in America, Chris Hemsworth is largely known 610 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: as thor yes, you know, like you do become part 611 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: of but then like how fun to be part of 612 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: a world and. 613 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 3: Like well that's I mean, like that really is the 614 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: reason that I'm drawn to this biz at all. Like 615 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: I love just living in like worlds that like not 616 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 3: as like a just as like a form of an 617 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: escape is not in like a bad way in like wow, 618 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 3: this is really cool. Like you know, like I want 619 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: to write a flying carpet or you know, I wanna 620 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: I wanna you know, be reaped at the Hunger Games. Yeah, 621 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: like I want to do I want to do stuff 622 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: like that, Like I want to like live in these 623 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 3: big sets, in these big worlds like struke me out 624 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 3: to wires and crazy stuff like I'm keen, I'll do it, 625 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: love it. Those are the type of projects that I'm 626 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 3: really really really really would love to be in. Like 627 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: even like the new Street Fighter film that just that 628 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: just came out. It oh really yeah, like that would 629 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: have been sake. I have a friend and that actually 630 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: and she's amazing. But like stuff like that, you know, 631 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: like just like a like just like a different world 632 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: like pay my face Green, you know, yeah, I'll do 633 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: I'll do anything. 634 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: Yeah the Galaxy? Nice? Nice? 635 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: Yes, So would you go to like America if work 636 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: took you, like to like fully relocate over there? 637 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: We doing sure? Absolutely? 638 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 639 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 640 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: If you need any help with weird American things, I 641 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: can help you. It's DMV, my friend, you have to 642 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: go like reader your car license all that. 643 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 3: Gosh, listening to Claire's Yeah Escapades has been has been funny. 644 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: But oh yeah, yeah American Americans. 645 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: I took her when we went to DMV together. 646 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 2: So you have to have there's a rule that you 647 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: have to when you go for your driver's license. You 648 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: have to have someone with a Californian license with you 649 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: in case you fail, that can drive you home. 650 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you have to. 651 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: It's really and you have to show it is fast, 652 00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: like it's a rite of passage. 653 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many. 654 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: Rights back like it's just opening a bank account in 655 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: America is like you're jumping through hoops. Like it's really 656 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 2: it's a whole different face, it's a whole different meats. 657 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: But we can talk about that till the cows come home. 658 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to I said this to you 659 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: before we start recording a lot of actors will listen 660 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: to this pod, and I feel like you're someone that's 661 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: very like open and honest, like can you like share 662 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: a little bit of advice around like process wise, Like 663 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: say you're an audition and you're like, great, I've got 664 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 2: to put a self tape up. In America, you get 665 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: an audition at four pm, it stew at ten am 666 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: the next day. 667 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 668 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: Mental, here, it's a. 669 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: Bit longer, right, yeah, like a week or a few days. 670 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 3: I think it was like some AMAA rules that came out, 671 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: you know, years ago, not even a couple of years ago, 672 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: like two years ago, a year ago. You're a hunger. Anyway, 673 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: they give you kind of a little bit more time. 674 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: Oh my gods, please someone correct me if I'm wrong. 675 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm I feel like maybe I'm conflating with the 676 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 3: with the SAgs sag stuff that just happened. But yes, 677 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: you're right. 678 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: No one sticks to that, by the way, if I'm 679 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: being real, Because so you've got Union non uniit like 680 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: there all this other. 681 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: Stuff, right, Okay, but yeah, you get at least like 682 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 3: at least two days. 683 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: Great at least so okay, So an audition rocks on 684 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: into your inbox and you're like great, So what's a 685 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: bit can you just share, like from that moment to 686 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: putting it on a tape, like what you would do. 687 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: For sure, you first read it and you're like, oh 688 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: my god, great, I'm going to be in adventures. Yes, 689 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 3: and then you're like, wait, I gotta do this audition first, yeah, 690 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: and then you're like great, now I have to ask 691 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: someone to help me. 692 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 693 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. But honestly, every tape I feel is so different, 694 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: and I'm sure everyone can relate. Like there are some 695 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 3: characters that just jump out of the page at you 696 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: and you're like, I don't have to do any prep 697 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 3: for this at all, like it like I am this 698 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 3: person that lives within me, or I just understand it 699 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 3: and feel it, and some you really have. 700 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: To like massage. 701 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: And I'll just start by reading it, reading who the 702 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 3: producers are, who the director is, doing a bit of 703 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: research on their work, their style if I don't already know, 704 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: and then obviously like read the script, read those sides, 705 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: and if you're lucky enough to get the script, then 706 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: just read the script as well. And I have like 707 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 3: a process that is sort of like a little bit 708 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: of like a Frankenstein process, So get on I know 709 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: that everyone's everyone's different. I did a bit of misner, 710 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 3: So there's elements of like the miser process that. 711 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: I have, so like repetition kind of by more. 712 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: Like I think it's called elements of truth like that, 713 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 3: please correct the terminology, like elements are true, so like 714 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 3: the people in your life that you can like substitute 715 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 3: for the characters so at least you feel like you're 716 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 3: talking to the same person. Repetition in terms of like 717 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: learning the lines, So I'll just I'll say it like 718 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 3: a bajillion times until it just like falls out of 719 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 3: my mouth because I find like, even like even when 720 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 3: you're taping, sometimes the hindrance is the lines. Yeah, you're 721 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: like when you're like kind of trying to grab at it, 722 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 3: like that's when like you know, it slips a little bit. 723 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 3: So if it's super super super ingrained and the lines 724 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 3: are super ingrained, then like it'll just make the tape 725 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 3: so much easier. Or like if you're lucky to go 726 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 3: in the room now because you know that doesn't have 727 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 3: very often, like yeah, that will help as well. And 728 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 3: then I studied a little bit with Leshianry. 729 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: He's got a good book. He has a great actors 730 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: life in the midshot. I think it's gold. 731 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 3: I reference that book pretty much liked every second or 732 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 3: third tape that I get. He's awesome. I'm sure people 733 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 3: in the Sydney scene know so much about him and 734 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: now maybe even obviously he's. 735 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: Everyone does work. 736 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 3: Obviously he's as well. 737 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: He's because jacober Ladie brought him on set. Yeah something. 738 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: So I think the Lordy effect has definitely. 739 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I feel like he was like a hidden secret 740 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 3: in Sydney for so long. Now he's not so hidden, 741 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 3: not so hitden. 742 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:50,959 Speaker 1: Dammit. 743 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 3: His book is really great even if you're starting, like 744 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 3: even for like actors coming out someone, like the technical 745 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 3: stuff really just improves your tape like significantly, you know, 746 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 3: like the eye line and just making sure that you 747 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 3: start like non neutral. Yeah, is so interesting. 748 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 2: That's a good that's a good little handy. 749 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that was one of the things I remember, 750 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: like he used to drill in us when we first started. 751 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: He was like he'd always like we, I mean, anyone 752 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 3: who's on an acting class, and I like, you do 753 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 3: your tape, you sit down and you watch it, and 754 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 3: then he would put like the tiles up. 755 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 756 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: I I was just talking about this, What do you 757 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 3: mean do. 758 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: I think it's fine? 759 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 3: And think it's like you put like the tiles up, 760 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 3: and then he's like, you know that's a good stunce 761 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: like everyone has looks like an interesting person. Yeah, And 762 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: so like he says that every class, which is great 763 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 3: and like other stuff in his book is so helpful 764 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 3: that I reference it all the time. 765 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: I love how and this is Jacob A. 766 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 2: LOUDI paraphrases this one a lot where you go into 767 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: an audition room and you want to like leave DNA 768 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: like blood. 769 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 3: Or I just recently heard him someone else say that. 770 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 3: Actually I think he said it. Oh really, Yeah, it's 771 00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: like such a common. 772 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: It's a good, it's a good. 773 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 3: It's a it's a it's a less yeah. 774 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah sure. Every time he says that, I'm like, 775 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: I know exactly where that's come from. 776 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I guess like the point is just to 777 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 3: like another one thing that he would also say was 778 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 3: just make sure that you leave and you know exactly 779 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 3: what your reader or the customer too, was wearing. Yeah, 780 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 3: just to like remain present, you know, like you're really 781 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 3: focusing on that person. Yeah, you're watching them, You're looking 782 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 3: at them, you're present, you're in the room. It was 783 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 3: something that he also used to say, like coming out 784 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 3: like you know, if people have been lucky to like 785 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 3: have a one on one, like you call them after 786 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 3: and then he's like, well they're wearing yeah, and you're like. 787 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: Uh blue, sir, Yeah. 788 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. My teacher in LA is like, you have to 789 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 2: tell me after the color of their eyes. And also 790 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: like forces you into that presence because you don't if 791 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 2: you're nervous. It's got to put your focus onto the 792 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 2: other the reader straight away and be like yes, beautiful eye. 793 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. 794 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: Like it gets you out of your head really quickly. 795 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: How good? This is all awesome advice. This is the 796 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: other thing. 797 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: And I don't know if you agree with this, some 798 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: actors are a little bit protective of their process. 799 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 3: Right, Oh my god. Should I have not said it? No? 800 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: No, no, no no. 801 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 2: You're helping You're helping people. And I think the thing 802 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 2: that as well that I love that you mentioned at 803 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: the top of this is like also understanding the business side. 804 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: Like when you get a self tape, it's going to 805 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: have a deadline when it's due. I imagine you make 806 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: sure that gets in on time, which is more. 807 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: Like the business side of it. 808 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 809 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 2: I've spoken to activates before that are like, no, I 810 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 2: wasn't ready to send it, And I'm like, well, you've 811 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: just lost the opportunity because hundreds, potentially of other people 812 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: have sent it on time. And in LA, I train 813 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: it in voice acting, and they say, if you get 814 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: an audition, they're like, send it straight away because they 815 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 2: may have even because voice is really quick, they may 816 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: have even cast by the time the cut off it. Yeah, 817 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: that's voiceover though, it's a whole different beast because obviously 818 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 2: you can do it so quickly if you've got like 819 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 2: a cupboard at home and your iPhone, Like you can 820 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 2: just whip whip an audition. 821 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you know it'll be off book or 822 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: any make a few quick choices. 823 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: But they were like, because in LA that's so prolific 824 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: for voices, They're like, just get it. 825 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: Off right, isn't that crazy? 826 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 3: It's so different. 827 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's quick. 828 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: People say, you get so auditioned fit there because it's quick, 829 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 2: and you're yeah, you're working. 830 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: With smaller timelines. 831 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: Can I ask you if you have any advice around rejection, 832 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: because I know you are an incredible actor. I imagine your 833 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 2: auditioning though, are not always getting everything you go out for? 834 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 2: How like do you have anything where Yeah, if you 835 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: get a bit of rejection, you're kind of like you've 836 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 2: got a little process where you like, my boyfriend will 837 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 2: always be like now we're gonna we're gonna write for 838 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: dinner or you know, like celebrate no matter what. 839 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, um, I'm not gonna lie. I don't have 840 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 3: a process yet. 841 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: That's okay. 842 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 3: It sucks, Yeah, And I think, like, I mean, I 843 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 3: I'm sure everyone feels just like it hits on like 844 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 3: every level. You're like, oh d because it feels so personal. 845 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's like what have I done wrong? Yeah? 846 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: Or am I not this enough? Or am I not 847 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 1: yead enough? 848 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 3: It feels so so personal. Some like commercials less so 849 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 3: obviously because it's like, oh, we wanted a girl with 850 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 3: blonde hair, you have brown hair. Yeah, like okay, whatever, 851 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 3: that's not important. But yeah, they actually, like, man, the 852 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 3: acting roles really really hit. They really hit hard. I 853 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 3: have like a bit of like a purge if if 854 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 3: they were if they were really really really big roles, 855 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: and you know, you go for like your director sessions 856 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 3: and you chemistry tests and something, and then they're like, oh, 857 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 3: down to the deal with you. And then they're like, oh, sorry, 858 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 3: I have a bit of a cry. Yeah, yeah, I 859 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 3: have a purge. I'll just cry. And then I'm like 860 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 3: all right, well on to the next because I think 861 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 3: I'm still trying to get better at not taking it 862 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: so personally and just kind of realizing like this is 863 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 3: part of the job, Like this is the job to audition. 864 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 3: My job is to audition and someone work out, someone workout. 865 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 3: But this is part of the job. Like I'm still 866 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: doing it. I'm still doing the job. Yeah. And the 867 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 3: one thing about this industry is like your luck can 868 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 3: change on a dime. Like one week everything is lost, 869 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 3: like Dark Knight of the Soul. Literally you wake up 870 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 3: one morning and they're like, oh, hey, you freeenick to 871 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 3: me because like there's one thing that you do take 872 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 3: full like three months ago, let's come back and now 873 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 3: you gotta be on a flight tomorrow. Yeah, And you're like, 874 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 3: whoa what, So like I think always like keeping that 875 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 3: in mind, Like for me, I'm just like it's okay. 876 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 3: You never know, Yeah, you just never know if something's 877 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 3: gonna like whip up because that one thing you auditioned 878 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 3: for like four months ago, They're like, oh, yeah, hey, 879 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 3: that was really great, and then and then everything's and 880 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 3: then everything's amazing. 881 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:46,959 Speaker 1: Yeah wow. 882 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 3: But it's also just like I think more importantly for 883 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 3: me is trying to like keep a cont like keep 884 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 3: my brain a bit constant, because like, man, the highest 885 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 3: can be so high and the lowest can be so low, 886 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 3: and like the yo yoing brain. Like I'm sure it's 887 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 3: not good for anyone, but just trying to have like 888 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 3: maintained a level of like consistency just in terms of 889 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 3: like my mental health like is like so important totally. 890 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: I always say to people because I'm a real slashy 891 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 2: with the pod and books all that kind of thing, 892 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,720 Speaker 2: and people like, oh, like you've done all this stuff, 893 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: and I'm like mental health, like, yeah, it's my therapist. 894 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: Without having for me, I would like crash and burn 895 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 2: or think I'm the worst most untalented human in the universe. 896 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 3: On a day, like like. 897 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: Honestly, like every two weeks and right before it gets 898 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 2: the two week mark, my boyfriend. 899 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: And be like, so, when are you seeing Terry? And 900 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, so we're we're having a spiral today. 901 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: It's okay. 902 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: Like it's also I think like and this is probably 903 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 2: i'd be interested to hear if you notice this when 904 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 2: you do stuff in America, but in La everything feels 905 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 2: heightened because everyone there wants to be a creative and 906 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 2: work in the entertainment industry, So you are constantly in 907 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 2: this like it's like you're on this bus of just 908 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,959 Speaker 2: like everyone wants to achieve, which is like a true 909 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: thing one it feels like, oh my god, yeah, we're 910 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: all gonna do the thing we love. Yeah, but it's 911 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 2: hard as well to like find the real and to 912 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 2: know what is fluff and what is genuine, and same 913 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 2: with roles, like is this legit? Like obviously having a 914 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 2: rap really helps with that, but sometimes you're on set 915 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 2: and you're like what am I doing it? Like there 916 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 2: you know, there are moments where you're just like, how 917 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: is this my life? 918 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 3: In a good way and sometimes in a bad way. 919 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, So I would I always say 920 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 2: to people mental health is key. 921 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: I could talk to you all day long. 922 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you one more question, and don't worry 923 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 2: if you feel like you've repeated yourself or anything like that. 924 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 2: It's just advice. For an actor that is like looks 925 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 2: at you, has watched Dive Club or has watched class 926 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 2: and just like wants to do what you're doing, but 927 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 2: maybe is a few steps behind. What advice would you 928 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 2: have for them? 929 00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: I know, like a little mentor I think I'd say. 930 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 3: I think i'd say, like kind of just like a 931 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 3: little bit of everything of what we've been talking about. Really, like, 932 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 3: I think it'd be important to. 933 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: Just like. 934 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 3: Keep like your ecosystem alive and well sort of thing. 935 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 3: Make sure that your personal life is thriving. Make sure 936 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 3: that you're happy in your relationship or if you're single, 937 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 3: like that's great. Make sure you have like good friends 938 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 3: around you, or make sure that you're active and you're 939 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 3: exercising and you're eating well, and you're like make sure 940 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 3: that you're like like your personal life is like healthy 941 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 3: and like happy, because like that's the stuff that's like 942 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 3: that's the food that's gonna sort of like sustain you 943 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 3: throughout all of this. 944 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, And. 945 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 3: In terms of the work, like just make sure you're 946 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 3: putting down like the best tapes that you can. And 947 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean like spend hours taping. It just means 948 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 3: like even coming back to some of like the less stuff, 949 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 3: and he says it in his book, like you need 950 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 3: to put in maybe like you know, one or two 951 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 3: three max hours. Oh my god, I think even said 952 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 3: one hour. Really work on it for an hour, tape it, 953 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 3: put it down, and then be done with it, you know. 954 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 3: But make sure you're putting in like good work, you know. 955 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 3: But also make sure that you're trying to book. He 956 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 3: always says this, Make sure you're trying to book the 957 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 3: room and not the role. Make sure, like you know, 958 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 3: because if you're putting down good work, maybe that role 959 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 3: won't be for you. 960 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 1: But like. 961 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 3: Casting directors remember like yeah, and a director who's seen 962 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 3: it will remember, you know. And so just making sure 963 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 3: you're booking the room and not the role, and like 964 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 3: your time will come, it really will. 965 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 1: That's great advice. 966 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 3: And I think I mean, like that's just that's just 967 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 3: what I did. 968 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: Perfect. 969 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck. It's really tough about that. 970 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for jumping on the pod. You 971 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: are wonderful. 972 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me this fun. 973 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 2: So there you have it an inspiring creative chat, and 974 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 2: you know what, have many projects on the go. This 975 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 2: chat inspired me that being to be a slashy like 976 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 2: have the pod, be an actor, be a writer, do 977 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 2: all the things. And I hope you can apply this 978 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 2: to your life too, whether you've got a nine to 979 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 2: five job and you've got a passion on the side, 980 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 2: celebrate being a slashy because you just don't know which 981 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 2: of those things is going to pop off. And yeah, 982 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 2: I think it's a great way to keep the purpose 983 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 2: and passion alive as well. So here's to being a slashy. 984 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 2: Here's to having many pots on the stove. That's a 985 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 2: wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, thank 986 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 2: you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation on Instagram. 987 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 2: I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. 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