1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Wain, you never know what you're going to get on 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: a radio show when you embark on it at the 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: start at six. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: O'clock in the morning. 6 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 3: Well, that's right, we were just talking about missed it 7 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 3: by that much people or men who missed the birth 8 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 3: of their babies. But Mark from bad Obey has called 9 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 3: through with a darker tale from from the sixties. 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Mark, good morning, good morning. 11 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 3: Here you going right tell us the story. 12 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is back in the sixties. My father 13 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: was in the army. He was there at Moorbank. Mum 14 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: was already had two happy baby girls. Early on she 15 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: was obviously pregnant. Went to the hospital. Dad got the 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: telephone call your baby like your boss getting into labor. 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: So he got there a couple of hours later and 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: was well, sorry, your wife and baby have gone into labor. Well, sorry, 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: wife's gotten into labor, baby's born and they are both 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: fine and her So two hours later Dad finally got 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: released from the army and got to the hospital and 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: when he got there they said the baby was in 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: the birthing ward. Went to the birthing ward and no 24 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: baby went upstairs. No baby went downstairs. No baby left 25 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: right center, no baby, no baby, no baby. So yeah, dad, 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: by the time, well mum saw the baby born taken 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: away to the birthing wood and Dad never ever got 28 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: to see his baby girl. What happened, Well, apparently the 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: story goes, so what were you told? 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: What were you told? 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: The baby apparently had passed away died of complications, but 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: Dad said, hang on, it was born quite healthy. What's 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: the problem follow these stories? So then you know, we 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: got angry. Try to threaten to punch on one out 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: lock you would, and then got thrown out. And then 36 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: a couple of months later we were all boiled over. 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: Your baby died. You don't get over it. He got 38 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: a death certificate and he said, well, I never saw 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: the baby, so you can go stick that in your 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: pocket and then that's just how it was. I'll get 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: over it. Your baby died. And it wasn't until the 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: nineties and then there was a court case happened. The 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: whole birthing ward were in cohotes with each other and 44 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: they were in a baby selling racket. 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: WHOA so your sister, well. 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: Well I never known because I was born in seventy one. 47 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: This is ye sixty we suspect she was involved in 48 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: his baby selling racket. So you can, yeah, the doctors, 49 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: the nurses, everyone on the ward, they were all they're 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: all in on this and they're taking the babies and 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: selling them. Wow. 52 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: So you have a sister that's eleven years older than 53 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: you that you don't know maybe, Yeah, has. 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: Your family, your dad and your mom, have they always 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: been believe that she was still alive? Yes, Mark, absolutely, 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: And even after in the nineties when this court case happened, 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 3: there was no recourse you could use, no paper trail, nothing. 58 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: Well no, well, let's back in the sixty years it 59 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: would you know, there's no paper trayal that that apparently 60 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: did not even touch the disk certificate. So they don't 61 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: even have that on my birth certificate. That's got my 62 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: sister's name, Barbara Fay in her year of birth or 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: date of birth, but that's it. 64 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: There's no Well that's amazing. So and you look at 65 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: the paper trail, there wouldn't be a PayPal trailer there 66 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: because they would have covered it up. So the lady 67 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: that is your sister could be alive now and would 68 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: not even be aware that. 69 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: Could that happened, could be listening to W seven right 70 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: now and she wouldn't even know it. 71 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: No, and your poor parents for all those years. 72 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, wow, Mark, it's amazing. 73 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: What a story. Thank you for sharing that with us. 74 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: Thank you. 75 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: Wow. I know, but it's just wow. 76 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: It's uncanny. 77 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: It is it is. 78 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: This is recent. 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: I was born in the sixties. This is to me, 80 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: it's reason history. You know, it's fifty but it could 81 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: be you it's not. 82 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is that you wouldn't know. 83 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: You wouldn't know. 84 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: But this is only fifty years ago that this was 85 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: happening in hospital. 86 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: Whoa wow. 87 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: And we're different parents, now, we're different people. We'd have 88 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 3: we make demands on a hospital and Mark's dad tried 89 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 3: to by the sound of it. But authority is everything. 90 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: But no one question anything back in those days. These 91 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: days everyone questions everything. Back in those days, no one 92 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: questioned anything. You just did respect what doctor said and 93 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: you went, well, that's it. 94 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: Wow, joins the and Amanda in the morning,