1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast Mini. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: We are talking about the case which has really captivated 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: a nation. William Tyrell went missing seven years ago twenty fourteen. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: Last scene it is foster grandmother's house. Nobody's been charged 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: since then over the disappearance and suspective death of William. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: But there has been some new evidence that's come to light, 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: or certainly just new little tiny pockets of information that 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: are starting to surface in and around this case. And 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: given that I can't put the right words on it, 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: We've got an expert for it, Leah Harris, who joins 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: us right now from Network ten podcast Where's William Tyrell, 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: which has been operating since twenty nineteen. Leah, Welcome to 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: the show. Absolute pleasure to have you on. Are we 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: about to see a breakthrough in the William Tyrell case? 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: Look, that's what everyone hopes. We hope that every time 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: they do one of these widespread searches, and they have 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: done a lot of searches over the past seven years. 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: The difference with this one is they do seem to 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: be a lot more confident that they have information that 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: is very specific that's led them to these three specific 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: sites that they're looking at, so we hope that there's 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 3: a breakthrough. So far it doesn't seem that there has been, 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: but it is still very much an ongoing operation. 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: So Leah, if you can be specific here, and I 25 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: appreciate we need to tread carefully because this is an 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: ongoing case. What has happened in the last week or 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: two weeks for them to be that now these three 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: sites that they think may reveal some more information. 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: So the police has publicly said they've got some new 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 3: information that they're acting on. And as someone who's worked 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: on it, you know from day one. The first indication 32 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: for me that there was a new direction and a 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: new theory came a couple of weeks ago when we 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: were issued with a subpoena from the Coroner's court for 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: all our information and research on podcast Wow and whatever 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: theory they're working on now, And they do say they're 37 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: focusing on one suspect. That same theory has led them 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: to also doing this new search. 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: Right said started doing this podcast two years ago, so 40 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, so he'd been missing for five years up 41 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: till then. Why did you start doing the Where's William Tyrrell? Podcast? 42 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: For a lot of people. I mean, the first podcast 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: I really ever heard was Cereal, which is Sarah Kenny's 44 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: look into what she thought was the wrong for rest 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: of this guy over in the US and then that 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: led to a retrial for him. Is that has that 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 2: been your goal in doing this? 48 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: So? I suppose the catalyst for the podcast was really 49 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: the fact that the police investigation was getting to a 50 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: point where they were going to a coronial in quest. 51 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: And the difference with the corona in quest means that 52 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: you actually get to hear all the evidence they've gathered, 53 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: and they need to put all the evidence before a 54 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: coroner to say, look, this is what we think might 55 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: have happened. What do you think. That's the point that 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: they reached, and that was the point that I felt 57 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: was the time to tell the story through all podcasts 58 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: over time, that the foster parents felt was time for 59 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: them to speak out, which they are notoriously private people. 60 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: They hadn't spoken out much at all before, but that 61 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: was the first extensive interview they did, and that was 62 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: bag shut down with me for that for the podcast 63 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: as well. 64 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: All right, well, I want to talk a little bit 65 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: more about the form of foster parents. I was going 66 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: to go to a song really quickly. But if this 67 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 2: this the latest update in this whole case, as you said, 68 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: notoriously private. Now these these are unlinked. I need to 69 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: stress that. But William Tyrrell's former foster parents have been 70 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: charged with assault, alleged assault, and that again that does 71 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: not relate to William at all. Leah and I can 72 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: hear you. You've got a billion things to say about that. 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: Can we talk about it more? Up next? 74 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 75 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: Okay, great, We've got more with Leah Harris from Network 76 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: ten's podcast Where's William Tilly? If you're not across it 77 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: sounds like great listening. I mean you're listening to Willan 78 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: Moody right now, so obviously you know get it after 79 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: the show, but we won't be offended if you get 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: around it after. We've got more with Lea. Right up 81 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: next to willimodiy, we've got Leah Harris from a Network ten. 82 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: She's got a podcast Where's William Tyrrel, which is obviously 83 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: about the little boy who went missing seven years ago 84 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. New evidence coming to light, though most recently 85 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: which has led to three separate sites being identified. I 86 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: believe Lera and the police doing far more extensive researching, investigating, probing, 87 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: hoping to find some sort of skeeric as to where 88 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: he might be. But the bid that we want to 89 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 2: talk about it with you now is that his former 90 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: foster parents have been charged with the alleged assault of 91 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: a child unrelated to William. Can we talk about that? 92 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? So, as you said, the important thing to stress 93 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: is that this is separate from the investigation into what 94 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: happened to William Tyrell. This is a separate case that's 95 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: happened recently. They have been charged with the assault of 96 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: a child and they will appear in court on those 97 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: charges next Wow. 98 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: What do we know about this? 99 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: Likely? 100 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: Are you allowed to spill anything about this? I mean, 101 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: and again we can't speculate unfortunately, but is that what 102 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: spiked the re interest in the case though? Like, is 103 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: the foster of her as being child with the assault 104 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: of another child got the police spiking their interest in 105 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 2: the foster parents and his foster grandmother for that matter. 106 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: All we know at this stage is that the strike 107 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: force that has charged the foster parents with these latest 108 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: string of charges, this is these assault charges, is the 109 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: same strike cource that is investigating. But that's that's all 110 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: we know of how much it's informed the investigation. 111 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: Get that lea why the involvement or why the focus 112 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: on William's foster grandmother obviously, so I appreciate that his 113 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: foster parents are now being charged with the separate assault, 114 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: But the grandmother, why, why are they looking into her again? 115 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: So the foster grandmother's house is where he went missing. 116 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: They were visiting her at the time that he went missing, 117 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 3: And they were visiting the foster grandmother and her car 118 00:05:54,279 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: was the car they seves last week to forensic examine. 119 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: She passed away in March. She was obviously present at 120 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: the time where he went missing, but she's unfortunately now 121 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: passed away, and they have seized her car to see 122 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: if there is any evidence there that perhaps it might 123 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: have been used in whatever happened to William Tyrell, and 124 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: to help either rule in or out this theory that 125 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 3: they're currently working on. 126 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: As it stands, you've got all the facts, You've been 127 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: running this podcast for two years. Now, where's William Tyrell? 128 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: What's your working theory with how he went missing? 129 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: It's hard for me to speculate on that as a journalist. 130 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 3: What I can say is that having been to where 131 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: he went missing and stood in front of that house. 132 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: It has always baffled me no matter what happened, as 133 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: to how it happened with absolutely no witnesses or anyone 134 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: seeing anything, because it is it's such a quiet little street. 135 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: So what's the next step. Do you think we are close? 136 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: Do you think we're any close at the end, and 137 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: if so, what does that look like. Do you think 138 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: the police. 139 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 3: Seemed confident that they were going to find something. They 140 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: haven't at this stage, at least not that we know of. 141 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: So with every day that goes by, I suspect that 142 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: perhaps they're becoming less confident, but you know, it remains 143 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: to be seen. They say it's going to go on 144 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: for three weeks, so you know it could be any 145 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: day that they do find something. And that's what everyone wants. 146 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: Everyone just wants them to find something to finally put 147 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: this to bed. If they don't find anything, then they 148 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: will have to present this new search to the coroner, 149 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: and then she will have to decide where we go 150 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: from here. 151 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: Right, and we've obviously got the court case of his 152 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: foster parents been charged with a separate assault as well, 153 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: so maybe we can get your back after the findings 154 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: of that court case, which is next week. 155 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: Yes, we'll obviously we'll be watching that closely. 156 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: Okay, the pleasure to talk to you, obviously, anyone listening 157 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: to this, if you know anything about this, obviously reach 158 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: out to the police and let them know if you 159 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: know anything. That would be the ultimate goal here is 160 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: that our conversation is spurred a memory in you or 161 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: even giving you the confidence to talk about a little 162 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: bit more, because at the end of the day we 163 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: are talking about a boy going missing seven years ago, 164 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: which is just tragic. Really abolutely, thank you so much 165 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: for joining us. It's been a pleasure to talk to you, mate. 166 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: Thanks guys. 167 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: Hear more of the boys on the Full Show podcast. 168 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: You know you want to