1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Aranda 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Bunjelung Kalkotin woman from Gadighl Country. The Daily oz acknowledges 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: Strait Island and nations. We pay our respects to the 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: first peoples of these countries, both past and present. 7 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os. It's Thursday, 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 2: the twenty fifth of August. I'm Sam, I'm It's been 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: six months since Russia invaded Ukraine. It's the largest European 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: conflict in decades and has already claimed the lives of 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: thousands of civilians and displaced thirteen million Ukrainians from their home. 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 2: We'll cut you up on everything you need to know 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: in the Deep Dive, But first, Sarah, what's making headlines 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: this morning? 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: Uzzi independent news website cry Key has been sued for 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: defamation by Lachlan Murdoch, the son of Rupert Murdoch. The 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 3: Australian Federal Court received an application for defamation from Murdoch's lawyer, 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 3: and comes after Criike publicly challenged Murdoch to take legal 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: action against them. 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Earlier this week, there's some new analysis from the Australian 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: Bureau of Statistics. They've found that three point six million 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: Australians have experienced emotional abuse by a partner. The ABS 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: used data from its Personal Safety survey in twenty sixteen 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 2: to conduct the analysis and found that over sixty percent 25 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: of these Australians were women. 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: A fan who attended the Wimbledon Men's final this year 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 3: has begun defamation proceedings against Nick Kyrios after the Ossie 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: tennis player described her as a woman who looked like 29 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: she had had about seven hundred drinks. During a break 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: in play, Kurios made a complaint to the umpire about 31 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: the fans behavior while he was playing, with a spectator 32 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: now saying that Kurios's claim was entirely baseless. 33 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: And today's good news. A seventeen year old Belgian British 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: man is set to finish his journey flying around the 35 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: world solo. Mac Rutherford's journey started on the twenty third 36 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: of March and has included traveling through fifty two countries 37 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: across five continents. In doing so, he'll become the youngest 38 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: man to complete the feat with his sister holding the 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: title as the youngest woman to complete the solo journey 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: around the world. That is a talented family. 41 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: Okay, Sam, let's start with the basics today. Why did 42 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: Russia invade Ukraine six months ago? 43 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: Well, why don't we go back to the twenty fourth 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: of February. That's the day where Russian President Vladimir Putin 45 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: launched what he called a special military operation for the 46 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: quote demilitarization of Ukraine. Now, Putin referenced Ukraine's desire to 47 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: join NATO and NATO's a Western military alliance as a 48 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: reason for the invasion. And that's because Russia sees the 49 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: quote eastward expansion of NATO as a threat. 50 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: All right, So six months on, what are the consequences 51 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: of this invasion being Well. 52 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: Why don't we start with looking at the human impact. 53 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: About thirteen million Ukrainians are said to have been displaced 54 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: from their homes since the war began, which is just 55 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: under one third of the entire Ukrainian population. The chief 56 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: of the Ukrainian Armed Forces said this week that nearly 57 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: nine thousand military personnel have been killed. Now, according to 58 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: the most recent information we have from the United Nations. 59 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: There have also been over five thousand, five hundred civilian 60 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: deaths in Ukraine and over seven eight hundred civilians injured. 61 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: But it's important to remember here in the UN acknowledges 62 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: this that they think the actual figures are much higher 63 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: than this. 64 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: So that's the human toll. Where is actually this war 65 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: up to well? 66 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: Western officials have said the war is out what they're 67 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: calling an operational deadlock, and that means neither side has 68 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: made any significant gains of late. Think about it as 69 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: a stalemate in a game of chess. However, we are 70 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: hearing that a large Russian offensive could begin as soon 71 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: as this week, and the US government has said they 72 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: have information that Russia is stepping up efforts to launch 73 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: strikes in the coming days. 74 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: All right, so we know that that actually coincides with 75 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: a really important date. Yesterday was Ukraine's Independence Day as 76 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 3: well as the six month anniversary of the Russian invasion. 77 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: What's the significance of that date. 78 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: It's a huge day for Ukraine. Independence Day is the 79 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: main state holiday in the country and it celebrates Ukraine's 80 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: independence from the Soviet Union in nineteen ninety one. Now, 81 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: this is normally a really big celebration with a parade 82 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: and music and street activities, but because of the heightened 83 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: threat of a Russian attack, Ukrainian authorities have banned the festivities. Now, 84 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski said that while the day was 85 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: important for them, it was quote also important for our enemy, 86 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: and that's Russia, and that hideous Russian provocation and brutal 87 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: strikes are possible. 88 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: Okay, so there's Independence Day. But there's also been another 89 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: news event relating to Ukraine and Russia in the last 90 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: week that has also contributed to these raised tensions. Talk 91 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: to me about Daria Dogana. 92 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: So. 93 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: Daria Dogna was the twenty nine year old daughter of 94 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: a key ally to Vladimir Putin. So think about somebody 95 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: really in the inner circle of the Russian president. Now. 96 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: She was killed in a car bombing outside of Moscow 97 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: over the weekend, which Russian authorities claim to have been 98 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: carried out by Ukraine. Now the Russian Foreign minister, his 99 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: name is Sergei Lavrov, he said there'd be no mercy 100 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: for those involved in her death. On the Ukrainian side, however, 101 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: they've denied any involvement in that car bombing. 102 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: All right, So I don't want to overload everyone. But 103 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: on top of the already hardened tensions over this death 104 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: and over Independence Day, we've also been hearing about a 105 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 3: risky situation with the Ukrainian power plant. 106 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: This is all coming from the UN, and they've raised 107 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: grave concerns about fighting near the Zapparitzia nuclear power plant 108 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: in southeast Ukraine. And this is actually the largest nuclear 109 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: power plant in the entire content. Rosemod Takaralo, who's the 110 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: UN's Under Secretary General for Political and peace building Affairs, 111 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: that's a worthy job title, said potential damage to Zapparitzia 112 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: would be quote suicidal, and that it was imperative for 113 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: both Russia and Ukraine to stop military activities around the plant. 114 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: That's some scary stuff. 115 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: I feel like at the start of this conflict, there 116 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: was a lot of international interests and we heard a 117 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: lot of world leaders coming out condemning Russia's action. What 118 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: is the latest on how Western nations are responding to 119 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: the situation now. 120 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: Well, we're getting very used to Western leaders coming out 121 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: and condemning Russia's actions in Ukraine. It's popping up pretty 122 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: much when any countries have bilateral or multilateral chats. It's 123 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: a topic of conversation. They say that Russia's actions breach 124 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: international law and that Russia has carried out war crimes. Yesterday, 125 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: the US government announced a further three billion US dollars 126 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: in aid for Ukraine, which it said will provide war 127 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: resources for years to come, and part of that is 128 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: about training up Ukrainian forces. 129 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: I think that's a really difficult thing to come to 130 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: terms with, is that this war could extend four years. 131 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: Are we any closer to peace? 132 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: Not particularly. I can't really say that with confidence we 133 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: are any closer to peace than we were a couple 134 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: of months ago. While there have been very few recent 135 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: offensives that have marked significant progress in the war, and 136 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: we know that because it's not in the headlines every day, 137 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: both sides are said to be preparing for future large 138 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: scale attacks in the next couple of months. In his 139 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: most recent address to his nation, Zelensky told Ukrainians they 140 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: were still fighting against quote the most dreadful threat to 141 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: our statehood and urge his people to continue following safety orders, 142 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: especially on Independence Day. 143 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: There's something to be said for the conversation that we 144 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: have often on the dhlios, which is around news fatigue. 145 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: So six months is a long time for a country 146 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: to be plagued by war, and it's definitely important that 147 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: we continue to highlight the human cost and the personal 148 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: cost that this war plays out on the Ukrainian people. 149 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us today on the Daily OS. 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