1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: You are listening to mix one O four nine's three 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: sixty now that number. If you're keen to call through 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: this morning eight nine one oh four nine. You can 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: also send us a message though zero four double nine 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: seven double one three six zero. There is certainly a 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: lot to discuss this morning with the Chief Minister, and 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: Lea Finocchiaro joins me in the studio. Good morning to you, Chief. 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and to your listeners. 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: Now, first off, in some very sad news, like yesterday 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: we learned that Pope Francis has indeed passed away. 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: He was aged eighty eight. 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: The world indeed in morning, is there anything that's going 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: to be happening here in the Northern Territory to one 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: of the Pope. 15 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, there will be, Katie, and it is incredibly sad. 16 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: And I rang Bishop Gauchi last nine and offered our 17 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 3: condolences and thoughts to the entire community. There will be 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 3: millions of people around the world who are just absolutely 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: heartbroken today. My understanding is there will be a church 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 3: service at Saint Mary's a few days after whenever the 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: funeral might be. So I'm sure for people who are 22 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: interested to perhaps follow the diocese of Dah and Catholic 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: Diocese of dah on Facebook page. I'm sure they'll be 24 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: putting updates up, but I believe early next week we 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: could expect to see a Mass. 26 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: And I'm assuming all the flags around the Northern Territory 27 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: like they are around the rest of Australia and around 28 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: the world, really will be flying at half Mass. 29 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, all of the appropriate protocols will be taken place. 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: Obviously I've not been the Chief Minister at a time 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: like this. 32 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: But we have wonderful people in protocol who make sure 33 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: all of the right things happen. 34 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. Look at his incredibly sad news. I 35 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: know that there will be plenty of people feeling pretty 36 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: sad about this today. Look, I do want to move 37 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: along though, because there's unfortunately been quite a bit happening 38 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: yet again when it comes to crime now, I mean, 39 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: it's really not the kind of thing anyone wants happening 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: when we speak about tourism and boosting the industry, particularly 41 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: in the Red Center. But police have arrested a sixteen 42 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: year old male after an indecent assault near Ularu on Friday. 43 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Teenager also allegedly stole a woman's handbag and phone. This 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: is yet another incident of crime in Central Australia for 45 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: the property crime on the weekend, adding well to a 46 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: tourist being seriously assaulted just over a week ago. We 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: also know that local man Aaron Black was seriously and 48 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: when he was trying to help a business which was 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: being targeted by a youth. Chief Minister, what else can 50 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: be done in Central Australia and indeed in Alice Springs 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: to try and sort this issue out once and for all. 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really disappointing. We've obviously, you know, changed a 53 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 3: heap of laws and supported our police in an unprecedented way, 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: but there's just the legacy of this issue is so big, Katie. 55 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: But there is more we can do and we've always 56 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: said this is just the beginning. 57 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: So I had a bit pulled together. 58 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: A meeting late last week to make sure all of 59 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 3: our agencies are working really closely together and doing their 60 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: fair share. So you know, children and families, education and police. 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 3: That's all working well and we've seen some really good 62 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: responses from our police, but obviously what the community want 63 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: is not you know, when a crime happens, our police 64 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: are there, but we don't want crime to happen in 65 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: the first place, so we are doing a massive rewrite 66 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: of the Youth Justice Act and changes to the Traffic 67 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: Act and other things. But certainly it's incredibly disappointing. It 68 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: damages the town reputationally. People feel concerned about their own 69 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: personal safety and whether it's a safe place to live. 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: And that's not what we want. 71 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: It's a gorgeous, important part of this country and the 72 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: territory and we've just got to keep the focus on 73 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: and keep our attention. 74 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: Well. Absolutely, it seems as though you're doing It's not 75 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: just in Central Australia, but looking at Catherine last week 76 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: we had a number of incidents there, including someone being 77 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: struck by a car following a late night brawl. Now, 78 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: one of our listeners, Tom got in contact last week 79 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: and asked if the government would consider looking at alcohol 80 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: restrictions in the town. Is that's something that you'd consider. 81 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: We haven't been looking at new ones, but there are 82 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: alcohol restrictions in Catherine. That particular incident was a couple 83 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: of communities engaging in some payback from a previous incident, 84 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: which is always very disappointing. But I am aware that 85 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: Catherine has been experiencing, you know, levels of crime they 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: don't want to see as well. So we continue to 87 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: send police into our regions. Just out of the last graduation, 88 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: we sent ten to Alice, and I think a couple 89 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: went to Catherine. But Katie, it's imperfect and I hate it. 90 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: You know, it is absolutely disgusting behavior. I hate to 91 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: see the territory like this and people having to make 92 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: decisions about where they park their car and will they 93 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: go to the shops. I mean, talking to my colleagues 94 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: Bill Yen and Josh Burgoyne of what's happening in Alison, 95 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: Joe Hersey and Catherine. You know she's saying older people 96 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: are trying to go to the shops at seven am 97 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: to avoid any issues. 98 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: I mean, people do not deserve to have to change 99 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: their life around these issues. 100 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: Like honestly, it's bullshit. Oh yeah, Territory orians have been 101 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: quite patient and they are continuing to try to be 102 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: quite patient with your government. I mean, even for me. 103 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Last Thursday, I went to the Nightcliff shops and saw 104 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: intoxicated people, one person in particular pushing a security guard 105 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: who was asking that person to leave. Now there was 106 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: elderly people. There was literally somebody walking in at that 107 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: point in time with a walker. It was at two 108 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: point thirty in the afternoon, around two thirty three o'clock 109 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: in the afternoon. People are pissed. 110 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, to put it. 111 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: Really bluntly and behaving really terribly. I mean again, I 112 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: will say that your government was elected to try and 113 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: sort this issue out with crime, but we're seeing it 114 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: flair up, seeing it really flair up in a way 115 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: that people do not want. 116 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: What else can be done, well, we just have to 117 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 3: keep recruiting more police, building more prison infrastructure, which is 118 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: what we're doing. We just graduated thirty one corrections constable 119 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: sorry corrections. 120 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: Officers, which is really exciting. 121 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: I think there's another thirty three in training, which is great. 122 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: Our Police College is full to the brim of police 123 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: and auxiliaries, so they're all getting their training. We're building 124 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: prison beds as fast as humanly possible, and we're changing 125 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: the laws as much as we can so that work. 126 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: It just can't happen overnight, unfortunately, and we've shown territories 127 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: we're very committed to this issue. Obviously, with our bringing 128 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: in a decleence law and a range of other things 129 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 3: within six weeks of coming to government. But I think 130 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: the changes will make to the Youth Justice Act will 131 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: make a big difference as well. And then there's all 132 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: the root causes of crime work. So we're seeing really 133 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: good work with family responsibility agreements. Data I'm getting early 134 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: data out of education is that our work to get 135 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: kids to school is. 136 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: Going really, really well. 137 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: And if kids are in school, they're not out on 138 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: the street and they've got half a chance at having 139 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: a productive life instead of a life of crime. So's 140 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: that early intervention work is starting. But at the point 141 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: of end we would just keep changing the laws, keep 142 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: supporting our police until we get this right. 143 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: So where are things that with the the Youth Justice 144 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: Act review and when can people expect to see some 145 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: of those challenges come into play. 146 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: Yep, So that is all on track. I think I 147 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: said last time I was on the show Katie that 148 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: it will be introduced into Parliament that last sittings in July. 149 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: I think it's about twenty nine July, don't quote me 150 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: on that. 151 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: So that will become law August September, and so ready 152 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: and good, it'll be in time for the school holidays 153 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: over the Christmas period as well. But yeah, can I 154 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: just say just sorry, just to add to that, so 155 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: you know, there's plenty of work to do. The crime 156 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: stats did come out and it's showing some really good signs. Now, 157 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: I've always said, Katie, it's not about the crime stats. 158 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: I'm not going to be the one holding them up 159 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: and saying no, no, see, look, it's better. It's how 160 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: people feel and people's lived experience. But I am just flagging. 161 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: From a data perspective. 162 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: We've made an impact, which is important. 163 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: It tells us keep going, you can have a bigger impact, 164 00:07:59,160 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: don't stop. 165 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: That's what we do. 166 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: What kind of numbers are you seeing and in what 167 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: areas are you seeing some impact? 168 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, territory wide, it's looking really good. 169 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: So we've got you know, hundreds of percentages dropped when 170 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: you compare February this year to February last year, particularly 171 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: around house break ins, commercial break ins, even motor vehicles 172 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: DV is up. So that's not something we've been able 173 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: to trend down yet. So it's definitely patchy, but some 174 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: really really good indicative data. And now that we're on 175 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: full surpro data, we're comparing apples with apples, so there's 176 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: not a need to have some sort of strange interpretation. 177 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: We can literally look at February this year, compare it 178 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: to February last year and say was it better or 179 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: was it worse? And so we can do that across 180 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: all crime categories. 181 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: All right, I wanted Last week we got a call 182 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: from Charlie. He called in from Corama, I believe it 183 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: was Charlie. He spoke to us about a security camera 184 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: going off in the night at his home. When he 185 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: checked it, there was two kids, one who he said 186 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: looked like it was about ten, trying to get in. 187 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: Upon further inspection of that vision, one the older one 188 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: not only armed with a machete but also wearing an 189 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: ankle monitoring bracelet. He wanted to know how these are 190 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: actually monitored and if there is someone, you know, like, 191 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: if there's someone going from home to home, essentially a 192 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: child that's wearing an ankle monitoring bracelet going from house 193 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: to house, surely it's going to alert someone. 194 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a very vexed issue and it's something 195 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: we are putting a lot of energy into and have 196 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 3: not got to the bottom of yet. So I appreciate 197 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: the frustration and that sounds like a horrific situation for 198 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: Charlie and and many of your listeners will have lived 199 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 3: and walked in charlie shoes ten times over, so it's shocking. Basically, 200 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: electronic monitoring is something we've increased since coming to government. 201 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 3: It's particularly part of Declum's Law. And what happens is 202 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: police don't have real life time access to that data. 203 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: It's through a different company, the company who owns the 204 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: ankle bracelet. So there is connectivity there, but it's not 205 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: where we want it to be, and so we're working 206 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 3: on a bit of a project to try and make 207 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: that more streamlined, but it's just not there yet. But 208 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: again it's about enforcement and you know, I was thinking, Katie, 209 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: where are the parents? And this is where our family 210 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: responsibility agreements come in, you know, like you cannot have 211 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: and it's not just ten year olds, it's eight year 212 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: olds out on the street totally without a care in 213 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: the world, destroying other people's lives. 214 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: It's absolutely agree and do not dispute that in any way. 215 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: But if you've got somebody that's got an ankle monitoring 216 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: bracelet on, I just like you just think to yourself, 217 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: how are you in a situation. Then we're a kid 218 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: that our listener said he looked like he was about twelve, 219 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: is with a ten year old then you know the 220 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: older kids allegedly armed with the machete teaching the younger kid. Yeah, 221 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: presumularly allowed to commit a crime, and wearing an ankle 222 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: monitoring bracelet all during that process, Like it just people 223 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: are getting really frustrated by this kind of thing and going, well, 224 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: it seems like the whole system is continuously letting us down. 225 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's broken as anything, Katie, make no 226 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 3: mistake about that. So with ankle monitors, for example, it 227 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: depends what the court orders. So some of them can 228 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: be what's called geofence. So for example, it would set 229 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: off an alarm if a person wearing a bracelet left 230 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 3: a particular area. So if you were bailed to your 231 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: house with a monotet you were not allowed outside the fence, 232 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: for example, when you walk through the fence, then it 233 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: would it would set off an alert to the company. 234 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 3: But not everyone is geofence, so the rest of the time, 235 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: it's a it's sort of a more manual process of 236 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: just of checking where is everyone and does that align 237 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: with their bail. 238 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 2: So there's plenty of work to. 239 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: Be done, not just from an electronic monitoring perspective, but 240 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: a bail perspective, and that's the work we're doing through 241 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: the rewrite of the Youth Justice Act. So it's honestly, Katie, 242 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: used to fix one thing. If I and a new problem, 243 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: you uncover something else, you get stuck into that. So 244 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: this electronic monitoring one has been on our radar for 245 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: months now and we continue to come back to it, 246 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: to come back to it and work on it. But 247 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 3: because we're contracted to a private provider, that adds. 248 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: Just a wins contract run out. 249 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know, and it's important. It's nothing, there's 250 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: no problem with the provider. It just adds a level 251 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: of complexity. So we are absolutely working through it, and 252 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 3: it's myself, the Corrections Minister, who are really leading the 253 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: charge on getting to the bottom of that. 254 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: Chief. I'll keep moving because there is a lot to 255 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: cover off and I know we both pressed for time. 256 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: You are expected today to make an announcement in terms 257 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: of strengthening the justice system to ensure the defenders face 258 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: real consequences and also to reduce court delays and restore 259 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: community safety. What exactly are you going to be announcing today. 260 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really exciting because there's many parts to our 261 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: justice system. One is the police, one is corrections, and 262 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: one is the courts. People will remember we've done a 263 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 3: lot of work on funding legal aid and trying to 264 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: get our courts moving better. So we're announcing our Tiger 265 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: Task Force, which is really an early it's to deal 266 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: with the backlog of offending. We've had it reviewed two 267 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: hundred and ninety remand cases already because we know we've 268 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 3: got huge percentages of people who are on remand, so 269 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: they've been able to finalize over two hundred matters, which 270 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: includes eighty seven guilty please, So that's one part. We've 271 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 3: also made the twenty deep pp stuff who were on 272 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: contracts permanent because they were going to have to go 273 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 3: and look for other jobs and didn't have the certainty 274 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: we needed, so we're retaining those skills in the territory. 275 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: We've got four additional prosecutors, which is fantastic, and new judges, 276 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: so we're really working hard in that court space to 277 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: bolster the court. 278 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: So she's mister to do so is it what did 279 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: you say? 280 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 3: It was called Operation tiger, Tiger, tiger, and it's all. 281 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: So it's reviewed two hundred and ninety. Reminds. 282 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: Remind cases that's right, it's reviewed two ninety. So the I, 283 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: my dear, is they're very senior experienced people. They go 284 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: in and are looking at that backlog of matters. Why 285 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 3: has there been caught delayed? Why has this person been 286 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: sitting on remand for a year, and so you know 287 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: they're working through all of that to try and reach 288 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: a resolution. So it's been really really effective so far, 289 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: and we will continue to do that work. 290 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: All right, Chief Minister, I do want to ask you 291 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: about another issue which has been raised by our listeners 292 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: certainly over the last week or so. It's not a 293 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: new one, but it is causing a lot of anks 294 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: amongst territory mothers. It's some maternity services at the Darwin 295 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: Private Hospital. We've now got a situation where more than 296 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: one thousand people have signed a petition demanding the protection 297 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: of private maternity services. Have you seen this petition? 298 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: I haven't, but I'm certainly aware of it. 299 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: And of course this is a huge issue for the territory, 300 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: extremely disappointing, destabilizing and uncertain times for expecting mothers and families. 301 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: It's horrible and I've talked about this on your show before, Katie, 302 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: where it's a symptom of it's a really tangible example 303 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: of a slowing economy where the government hasn't invested in 304 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: growing the territory so that we have more people and 305 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: more jobs. And Hellscope made the decision that it just 306 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: didn't pay the bills and they've cut it. So we've 307 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: stepped up, and that is a horrific situation. And so 308 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: we've stepped up to try and offer a private like 309 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: service through the public hospital, so women in the private 310 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: system will be able to have their babies at Royal 311 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: Darwin and then we can offer them two private like experiences, 312 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: either from home with cleaning and food provision or at 313 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: a hotel where they can be cared what. 314 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: I can gather though, what that is going to mean 315 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: for some of these women. If you're being cared for 316 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: by a private obstetrician, are you still going to be 317 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: able to have your private obstetrician care for you right 318 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: through the birthing of your child. 319 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: That is my understanding, but I'm just getting some more information. 320 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: I know some are feeling like the transition team have 321 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: perhaps been not as supportive as they could be. So 322 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: this is an area that's really important to me and 323 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: our government. It's imperfect and we wish Health Scope didn't 324 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: make this decision. So we're really trying. You know, we're 325 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: not a private health provider as a territory, so we're 326 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: really trying to continue an offering that is not traditionally 327 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: something a public health system would do. But we don't 328 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: want women feeling left behind. 329 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: All right. I am going to be catching up with 330 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: the Health Minister later in the week, But essentially what 331 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: this petition is asking the Northern Territory government to do 332 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: right now is launch a central information hub, host a 333 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: public forum where women have the opportunity, families have the 334 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to ask questions, share concerns and speak to the 335 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: Minister for Health and yourself about the future of maternity 336 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,239 Speaker 1: care in the Northern Territory. They also want a commitment 337 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: to finding a long term solution. Are you prepared to 338 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: do those things? 339 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: Well, look, I'm not sure if there's status of everything, 340 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 3: and I'm very happy to get across it. I think 341 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 3: the reality is that the government can only provide what 342 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 3: it can in terms of making it as a public 343 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 3: type offering in a private type offering in a public system. 344 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 3: Unless Healthscope change their mind. They are the ones who 345 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: who operate the public hospital. It is entirely a decision 346 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: for them, unfortunately. So this is not about private health 347 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: or any of those other things. It is literally the 348 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: hospital operator saying well, we're not offering that. It'd be 349 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: like if they decided they're not doing I don't know 350 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: broken bones anymore. You know. They're just saying no, we're 351 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 3: not doing that, and that's the end of it. So 352 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 3: that obviously has a huge impact on the territory. And 353 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: what we want to do is make sure we can 354 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: offer as much continuity of care as possible and as 355 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 3: much offering as possible, and by growing our economy, we 356 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: hope then that there's more births, more babies, more people, 357 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: and Healthscope will come back to the table. 358 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: All right, chiefiness to there's other questions coming through this 359 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: morning about book. I will talk to you in just 360 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: a moment about some unreased in a community which has 361 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: been raised with me as well. But there's some questions 362 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: being asked about issues at the Darwin waterfront. One online 363 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: publication calling for an inquiry after raising conflicts of interest concerns, 364 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: would you endorse a public inquiry? 365 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 3: Well, Katie, I'm not the waterfront Minister and I've done 366 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 3: that very deliberately. The allegations are all historical under the 367 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: previous Labor government, and I've got full confidence in the 368 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: Attorney General, who is the waterfront Minister, to resolve any 369 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: outstanding manners and make her own decisions about it. 370 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: So when you say you've done that very deliberately, is 371 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: that because of your conflict of interest with your husband 372 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: obviously working. 373 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, my husband is down there and so I'm deliberately 374 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: not the waterfront minister. Traditionally waterfront has sat with the 375 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 3: Chief and I've deliberately kept myself out of any decision 376 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: making around that so that it's all properly an appropriate 377 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: really dealt with. So this is best directed towards the 378 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: Attorney General. 379 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: Look, I will obviously declare as well that my husband's 380 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: a chair of the Darwen Waterfront. But there's some pretty 381 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: awful comments being made on social media about you and 382 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: your husband's employment at the waterfront, claims of conflict of interest. 383 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: Have you been involved in any way in his employment? 384 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely not, Katie, and as I said, any of the 385 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: allegations happened under a labor government. Perhaps those questions are 386 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: better directed to Eva Lolo or whoever the waterfront ministers 387 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: were over that period. But I've certainly had no involvement 388 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 3: and I stand by that. 389 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean taking that into account. Do you think that 390 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: if there was a review that it would just clear 391 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: the air and you know it's worth doing. 392 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: Look again, this is really a matter for the Attorney General. 393 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: She's the person with the right information and can make 394 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: her own decision. 395 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: All right. I want to take you to some other 396 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: questions that are coming through from listeners. Somebody is asking, 397 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: where is the police review currently. 398 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: At the police review? So that was the one that 399 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 2: was finished? 400 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: No, No, the one that is been conducted by Justice So. 401 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: Sorry, yes, yes, yes, sorry, I thought you met the 402 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: big review from last year. Yes, I believe that is 403 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: all on track. I'm sort of expecting perhaps in the 404 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 3: next couple of weeks. I obviously don't have any engagement 405 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: with Justice blow but he's doing his work, and I 406 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: made it very clear that I had no time limit 407 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: expectations and that he had. 408 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: Full opportunity to do whatever he needed. 409 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 3: So I don't think it will be months away, but again, 410 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: if that's what's required. 411 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: So being Chief Finister, I have also been contacted by 412 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: a territori and over the weekend who wanted to raise 413 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: some really serious concerns about unrest in a remote community. 414 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: It is a community that's located near Borilula in the 415 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 1: Gulf of Carpenteria. They have a police station, but it 416 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: has never been staffed. Now they're facing on rist and 417 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: have had to limit the operating hours of the local 418 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: store due to a couple of individuals or some individuals 419 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: causing havoc. This person sees, the unfortunate reality is it's 420 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: the actions of just a few that are currently impacting 421 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: the safety and well being of the entire community. Now 422 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: they do not want me to name the community for 423 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: fear of further on risk, but it clearly demonstrates the 424 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: need for police in the area. I know it's difficult. 425 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: We need our police everywhere all of the time. But 426 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: we did receive some additional funding, didn't we from the 427 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: federal government when it comes to remote policing. 428 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've received a little bit more. It doesn't go 429 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 3: very far, unfortunately, and we don't have police stations in 430 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: every single community Kadian. So it does make it very challenging. 431 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: What can I say? I mean, you know, anyone anywhere 432 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: who does the wrong thing disrupts the life of others 433 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 3: who are just going about their day, trying to live 434 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: their lives. And this is what we're trying to very 435 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 3: very hard to get to the bottom of. And as 436 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: we continue to recruit and graduate more police and we 437 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: have greater opportunity to be in more places at more times. 438 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: But obviously we're off the back of a very major 439 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 3: deficit under a labor government that laura and order wasn't 440 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: a priority for them, but it is a priority for us. 441 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: No matter where you live, and I can tell you 442 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: there are plenty of Aboriginal people on Aboriginal communities who 443 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 3: are sick to death of people mucking up, and you 444 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 3: know they'll be the first people to tell you how 445 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 3: to have tougher laws and send more people to jail. 446 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: So you know, I hear the concerns whether you are 447 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 3: in a very remote community or in Parmesten or Nightcliffe 448 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: as you were talking about, Katie, it applies equally to 449 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: everyone and this behavior is unacceptable. 450 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: Well, Chief Finister, we are going to have to leave 451 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: it the text lines going off about issues with crime 452 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: and different things that people are dealing with, but really 453 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: appreciate you staying and answering all of those questions. Thank 454 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: you very much, Take care again. Thanks everyone, Thank you. 455 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four nine's three 456 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: sixty