1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: On today's show, Sky Wheatley blames Michael Finch for releasing 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: those controversial OnlyFans comments a mid backlash. Sophie Kasha announces 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: her second book deal, Why Kayla Assinas hates Adelaide Water 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: and Avid Chatfield's famous dates. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Kate Torbert and I accidentally 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: on the way here ate a yogurt that's ten days 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: out of date. So I'm hoping I get through this episode. Okay, 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: So if Kate disappears, it's not that we've had a fight, 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: that she's just the toilet. I just love these confessions 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: during the podcast. I feel like we always start in 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: the most random ways. Well, I'm Amy Torbert and I 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: have finally sat down with Dale, my fiance, and I've 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: done some wedding planning. I love how you put in 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: fiance because someone message saying why do Amy and Sophie 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: keep calling their fiances their boyfriends? Why do you guys 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: keep doing because fiance sounds so wanky? Fiance's feel embarrassed, 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: saying yeah, I think when you've been with someone for 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: so long, and they've been your boyfriend. It sounds weird 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: to suddenly say fiance. I will always say my partner, Amy, 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: what are some of these plans? Well, we looked into 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: a few venues, but we were actually mostly planning our 23 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: engagement party, which we're gonna have in November. So this 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: disappoints me. Amy, I've been on your back. Now you 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 1: just need to lock a venue. Yeah, well we've booked 26 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: in to see some venues. Okay, thank god. Oh I'm 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: Sophie to Albert and I need the community's help. I 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: need some recipes because my partner and I we've recently 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: implemented date night, so instead of going out to fancy restaurants, 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: we're taking it in turns to cook for one another. 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: And I've already ran out of suggestions because my partner 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: all he eats is meat and basically no vegetable, eat 33 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: pasta like a spaghetti or something. He hates spaghetti because 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: he's got severe food poisoning off. Spaghetti is hard to 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: cook for. Isn't there like a list of things he 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: won't eat? Like cool? He was on the fob map 37 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: diet for a while, so it is kind of difficult 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: finding something he likes. I wonder what out to my fiance? 39 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: Allen, have you seen my fiance? 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: My fiance, I'm. 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: Looking for him. 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: I have lost my fiancee. 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: The poor baby. Sky Wheatley has taken aim at Michael 44 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: Finch after she received an avalanche of backlash following her 45 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: controversial comments about OnlyFans creators Amy. What has happened since 46 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: we broke the story on Tuesday, Well, Kate, since our discussion, 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: a number of media publications have picked up on Sky's comments. 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: And just to refresh everyone's memory, let's throw to what 49 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: Sky said. 50 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: Sorry, let me get me dial do out and fuck meself, 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: why are you doing that? I actually thought about making 52 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: a video about it last night because and like I'm 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: fuming about what like just saying like, oh, you know, 54 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: I like to make my money by approving in a 55 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: product and loving a product organically and sharing it with 56 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: my audience, rather than fucking myself for the fucking dildo 57 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: and making money off and like and like ending marriages. 58 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: Many girls would go through their boyfriend's phone and see 59 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: that they're secretly subscribed to girls only fans, and that's 60 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: the end of a fucking marriage right there. 61 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: Actually ludicrous, so media publication The Wash. They shared a 62 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: clip of Sky's comments on its Instagram account, and at 63 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: the time of recording, this has at over eighty thousand 64 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: views and it's been commented on many times. Former Maths 65 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: contestant Hayley Vernon, who's now an Only Fans creator, left 66 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: a comment on the video which said, this woman can't 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: be serious. If so, then she's surely the butt of 68 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: this joke. Who does she think she is to say 69 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: that what she does to earn money is better than 70 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: someone else. I'll tell you one thing. More people are 71 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: fucking sick of discount codes and girls saying swipe up 72 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: than people that are living authentically. What Sky fails to 73 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: realize by doing this is it cuts down women at 74 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: the knees. Sex work is work and it's legal, and 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: I say it will be around a lot longer than 76 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: promoting a product. You are self entitled and it shows 77 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: come back down to earth for a minute, because you 78 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: sound fucking ridiculous. So this comment was like five hundred 79 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: and forty three times, and she really does have a point, 80 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: doesn't she. Well. Clementine Ford also weighed in, saying hore 81 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: phobia is boring at least women on Only Fans aren't 82 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: using their kids to flog shit for money and stats, 83 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: which is also a very good point because a lot 84 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: of these influences will Sky in this particular instance, was 85 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: on her high horse about her job and you know, 86 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: only promoting these very authentic brands, but she also does 87 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: use her children for views and entertainment, and it does 88 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: become a little bit uncomfortable when you are seeing people's 89 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: lave of logs and every sort of dimension of a 90 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: child's life. I thought all of this commentary is so 91 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: interesting because we were talking about how there are two 92 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: different fields of influencers at the moment. There are those 93 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: high earning OnlyFans creators who also use social media to 94 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: promote themselves, and then also it's more of the OG 95 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: influencers who just promote products. And I find it very 96 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: intriguing that people are actually bad king the Only Fans 97 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: creators over the OG influencers. It really shows this shift 98 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: towards what people think about people flogging products all the time. Yeah, 99 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: it's captured public sentiment really well, hasn't it, Because especially 100 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: when Clementine said, we're sick of you using your kids 101 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: to flog shit, I think that's really viewed badly amongst societies. Well, 102 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: I think it's something that we're going to see a 103 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: lot of in the future, because it's only recently this 104 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: new generation of influencers that have been somewhat exploiting their 105 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: children online, and I think we'll be seeing the full 106 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: effect of that in years to come when these children 107 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: grow up. Well, I think it's because people feel like 108 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: influencers are selling their souls and their whole life when 109 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: they're trying to captivate an audience, whereas sex workers are 110 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: providing a service. So I think that people are viewing 111 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: what they do completely differently. And I also think a 112 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: lot of people are finding Sky Wheetley's comments pretty hypocritical, 113 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: considering she has spoken about how she considered going on 114 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: the platform for quite some time. Yeah yeah, Well, Celep's 115 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: beelcheck was also in the comments to remind people of 116 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: Sky's past indiscretions. She wrote friendly reminder that this is 117 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: the same woman who said, ain't nobody telling me no? 118 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: I won't take no for an answer when I want 119 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: sexy time, and I have no sympathy for women who 120 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: don't leave abusive relationships. Now, things took a turn when 121 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: Sky took to the comments section. So in a now 122 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: deleted comment, Sky responded to Hailey Vernon saying, didn't you 123 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: call me one time for help on how to get 124 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: your Instagram back? I was so helpful and kind to you, babe. 125 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: This conversation was never ever meant to be posted. I'm 126 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: so upset it's been posted online. This was out of 127 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: my control. I was having a conversation with a so 128 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: called friend out of anger. Shocked it's been posted. To 129 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: be honest, trust no one God. So this so called friend, 130 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: Just to refresh everyone's memory, is Michael Finch. 131 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 4: Now. 132 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: In Tuesday's episode, we were discussing how we have heard 133 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: Michael say that normally when Sky and him shoot content together, 134 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: they actually check with each other if it's okay to 135 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: upload certain things. So I wonder if this happened in 136 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: this instance, or if Sky is correct in saying that 137 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: she didn't think that this audio would be shown. I 138 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: also remember during some of their vlogs together that Michael 139 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: seemed quite uncomfortable with the way that Sky was acting. 140 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: I recall they were going through a MacDonald's drive through 141 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: and Sky was sitting there filming the workers, and he 142 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: was like, babe, put the camera down. You've gotta ask 143 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: me if they want to be involved. So I think 144 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: he's a little bit more savvy, and I mean, I 145 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: don't think that in my opinion. I think if she 146 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: was talking in front of the camera, he would have 147 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: thought that she was aware of it and happy for 148 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: that content to be out there. It's like when you're 149 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: working as a journalist, anytime the camera's on, your mindset 150 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: is this could be shown somewhere. She even looked at 151 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: the camera. She was performing for the camera, trying to 152 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: be funny for the camera. I think she's just more 153 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: that she's seen this now in a different light and 154 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: how everyone's responded and no one agreed with her and 155 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: no one thought it was funny. She's definitely trying to 156 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: throw Michael under the bus, but plain Devil's advocate, she 157 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: might have said this out of anger. She's saying, was 158 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: it Mike right then to check in with her if 159 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: it was okay to post? Or do you think it's 160 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: fair game? Yeah? But how many times do we need 161 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: to give Sky Wheatley a second chance? Because there's so 162 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: many stupid comments that she constantly puts out online. Maybe 163 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: he thought that she was okay with the comment because 164 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: she makes comments like this constant. Well, you said Michael 165 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: was pretty savvy with Instagram and YouTube. Do you think 166 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: he might have purposely left this in to create a 167 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: bit of controversy. I feel like he actually got her 168 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: approval to put it in there, and now she's rebutting 169 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: and saying I had nothing to do with this. He 170 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: probably sent it to her and she probably didn't watch 171 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: it back properly. I think it's pretty rough that she's 172 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: blaming Michael. I don't think he did anything wrong. She 173 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: was singing along as they normally do in vlogs. She 174 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: was hamming it up to the camera. It was clear 175 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: that she even said, oh, I was going to share 176 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: this on my instat story the other day. So for me, 177 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: if I was him, I'd be like, well, this is 178 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: the green light. She's happy to talk about it. She 179 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: was part of the whole vlog. It was a fifty 180 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: six minute vlog. We've all seen the way that she 181 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: edits her own YouTube, or does it. She just throws 182 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: the clips in there. There's no rhyme or reason. I 183 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: don't think that she's being particularly savvy. If Michael's in 184 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: her the YouTube video and said, hey, babe, can you 185 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: approve that? She probably is like, yeah, it's fine. And 186 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: the thing is, despite the fact that maybe Michael shouldn't 187 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: have put it in there, if he was overlooking the 188 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: editing of this flog just to look out for his friend, 189 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't stop the fact that she said this, This 190 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: is how she feels. It's not like at any point 191 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: did she deny I'm sorry, I don't actually mean that 192 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: or Michael also didn't involve himself in the conversation. Apart 193 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: from saying, oh, freedom of speech, he clearly didn't agree 194 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: with what she was saying. I was pretty surprised to 195 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: see how quickly Sky turned on Michael because they have 196 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: been really, really good friends for years, and now it's 197 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: come out that Michael has actually unfriended Sky, which I 198 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: don't blame him. I would have loved to know what 199 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: is actually happening behind closed doors. I wonder if Michael 200 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: will respond to Sky's comments anytime soon. It'll also be 201 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: fascinating to see who sides with who because they are 202 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: part of this OGI influence. Now can a friends with 203 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: Sky anymore? Yeah, I think it's just Michael and Sky 204 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: that are still friends. They all went out the other 205 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: week with like Shanny and Lily Brown on all of GOOTT. 206 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure she was guy's always been on the ouch. 207 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: I always thought that Michael was the one bringing her 208 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: into the group, whereas Michael was more friends with Shanny 209 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: and Lily without her. Well, I actually think the best 210 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: thing for Michael is to distance himself from her. I mean, 211 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: she probably is fun to be around and a funny 212 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: person behind closed doors, but some of the comments that 213 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: she's putting out there publicly are pretty unforgivable and someone 214 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: that you wouldn't want to associate your brand with. Now, 215 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: since recording this episode, Sky has given an exclusive interview 216 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: to So Dramatic Online. She said, I am truly sorry 217 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: if I offended anyone with my comments. I one hundred 218 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: percent think that what I said was nasty and not acceptable. 219 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: Sky went on to tell So Dramatic that her comments 220 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: were taken out of context from a conversation that she 221 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: had about a specific sex worker she was having issues with. 222 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: It's not an excuse, she said, but I was speaking 223 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: out of hurt and anger about someone specifically, not only 224 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: fans in general. This someone I was talking about is 225 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: a sex worker and was coming for my line of 226 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: work and I was venting to a friend. I was 227 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: heeded and defensive of me and a friend, but I 228 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: don't actually have those views. She continued. It was never 229 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: meant to be posted publicly, as I know what I 230 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: said is very hurtful. Sky then reiterated to So Dramatic 231 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: that she has nothing against sex workers and it was 232 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: a shame that the video was posted against her will. 233 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: She said, it wasn't nice and I know that and 234 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: own that again, I am sorry. She also told So 235 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: Dramatic that the incident had ruined her friendship with Michael 236 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: Finch and that they were no longer talking. She alleged 237 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: to the Publication that Michael didn't consent with her before 238 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: posting it. She said, I thought he would know not 239 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: to include offensive stuff like that to the public. Now, 240 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: Michael Finch is yet to comment publicly, so we will 241 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: have to wait until we hear Michael's side of the story. 242 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, Sophie Kaisha here, I'm inviting you to join 243 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: me on book Topia where we will be having a 244 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: live event to talk through all things. 245 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: Then there was her. 246 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: Sophie Kaisha has announced she's releasing a second book off 247 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: the back of her tell All memoir. The detailed how 248 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: her life changed when she fell in love with a woman. 249 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: She now wants to share other people's stories. Kate, can 250 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: you tell us more about this second book? Well, Sophia's 251 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: teased that the second book may be called Then there 252 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: was You Now. I couldn't tell if this was just 253 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a play on the words of 254 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: her first book, Then there Was Her, or if it 255 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: actually is the legitimate name of the book Now. The 256 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: former Mummy Bogger said she had the chance to share 257 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: her story and now it's time to include her audience. 258 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: So she explained that when she released the book, she 259 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: received a lot of feedback from readers sharing their similar 260 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: experiences with her, which motivated this second book. Now, she's 261 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: put a call out on her Instagram feed asking her 262 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: followers to share their real life stories with her to 263 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: include in her book. She said, I'm after a group 264 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: of humans who have had their own personal journey of 265 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: sexual identity or romantic self discovery to create the book. 266 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: I wish I could have read all those years ago, 267 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: a book to provide context, a sense of relatability, some 268 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: validation your feelings, are real unwarranted. Now it appears Sophie 269 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: will be interviewing her followers and writing up their stories, 270 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: and she has guaranteed to keep these people's information strictly 271 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: confidential until she actually contacts the people and works out 272 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: some guidelines around boundaries for them. This concept reminds me 273 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: a lot of Jesse Stevens very successful book Love Sick, 274 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: where she writes about other people's breakups. But I do 275 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: wonder how successful Sophie's book will be because I feel 276 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: like a lot of people were motivated to buy the 277 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: book purely because they wanted all of the goss, and 278 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: it was being touted as you know, this scandalous information 279 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: that no one's ever heard about her marriage breakdown. I 280 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: also wondered how it's going to work with the people 281 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: she interviews, because she will be essentially using their stories 282 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: for profits. So I wonder if she's going to be 283 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: paying for these interviews. It's funny because I was about 284 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: to say no one probably wants to hear from her 285 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: because she's not a writer, but then I remember she 286 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: is actually a journalist, so she probably does have those 287 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: writing skills. I think she started a journalism degree. I 288 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: don't know if she actually finished it. So I wonder 289 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: if there's secretly another editor in the background who's just like, yeah, 290 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: Sophie's writing this. To me, it kind of sounds like 291 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: a podcast series. Yeah, I wonder why she. I mean 292 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: that would probably be pretty good and a lot easier 293 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: than writing a book. I mean, I don't know how 294 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: well it really went. I had a look on Book 295 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: Hope here and it had a two out of five 296 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: star rating. I mean, they do. That's from her haters, though. 297 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean it must have done pretty well sales wise 298 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: to have, you know, interest in a second book. But 299 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: there's a big difference between a tell all book where 300 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: you're putting out of this jucy gossip too. Oh and 301 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: I've run out of story. So here's some other people's 302 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: gossip that from anonymous people that you don't really care 303 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: about it. I can tell you which book i'd rather read. 304 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm all for the gossip tell all books. I wouldn't 305 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: read something like this. I think there is some good 306 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: in the book, though, because she's trying to make a 307 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: other people feel connected by telling stories we haven't heard before, 308 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: whether they're about self discovery or but we heard her story. Yeah, 309 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: I get that maybe she's not that relatable. Maybe these 310 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: other people her followers will be more relatable. But as 311 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: you say, kay, it'll be very interesting because if these 312 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: everyday people have their own interesting stories, wouldn't they think, Hey, 313 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: why do I make my own book instead of helping 314 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: out this woman? Is it a bit boring to read 315 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: the same story over and over again? 316 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: Though? 317 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I mean the thing is, we're safe with 318 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: Jesse Stevens very successful book. It was the different story 319 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: of three different heartbreaks, so I suppose that concept could 320 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: work here. But again, Jesse Stevens' book worked because she's 321 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: a very good writer. I'm not sure if Sophicicacia's writing 322 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: was that acclaimed in the first novel. I guess we'll 323 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: just have to wait and see. God, I'm so nervous, 324 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm going brunette. Over the last few weeks, there's been 325 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: an influx of influences dramatically changing up their hair. It 326 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: first started with blonde beauty Sammy Robinson going brunette, followed 327 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: by Tammy Hembrot becoming a redhead. Emma Claire and Rannie 328 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Browns we have also followed suit this week, both dyeing 329 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: their hair Brown, Kate, have the influences provided any reasoning 330 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: for these big changes. I need to know if I 331 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: need to change my hair up, Please don't because I 332 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: cannot stand the winding, because you will want to diet 333 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: blonde straight again. Should I get a fringe? Maybe? No? 334 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: Please base So Samy said that she had been craving 335 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: a change for a while and she was tossing up 336 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: between going really short or dying at brown, and she 337 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: opted for going brunette because it's a little bit easier, 338 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: I suppose than growing all that hair back. If you regret, well, 339 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: her hair goes back so quickly, though I'm so jealous. 340 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm the sort of person that if I cut my 341 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: hair short and take ten years to grow back. So 342 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: for Rannie, she simply said that she would never be 343 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: going back to blonde again, and to quote her on that, 344 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting to see if, yeah, we'll see 345 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: that happens now. As for Emma Clare, she wrote, and 346 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: before all these trolls come at me because I said 347 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: I will never go back to brown before, just remember 348 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: it's okay to change your mind. And sometimes life throws 349 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: things at you and that you can't control, and you 350 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: need to do things to help you through it. Right now, 351 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: this is one of those situations for me. She looked 352 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: fantastic with brown hair. Yeah, she did look stunning. Lastly, 353 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro has not provided any reasoning. She literally just 354 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: posted a picture of a chili and wrote who dat Well, 355 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: except for the fact that everyone's speculating it's a breakup hairdoo. Well, 356 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: it seems like everyone's going brunette in Australia, but Anastasia 357 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: kings North she went back to blonde a couple of 358 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: months ago. Say she's never go blonde? What is it 359 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: because normally when it starts warming up in Australia, people 360 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: tend to go blonde rather than back to brunette. Yeah, 361 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: I feel like brunette is more of a winter thing. 362 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: I did a little bit of research into hair trends 363 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: and apparently less is more this year. So celebrities have 364 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: been opting for more of their natural hair color and 365 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: natural textures this year, and red is apparently a very 366 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: popular color. We've seen Kendall, Jenna going red, Sophie Turner, 367 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: and Sydney Sweeney. So I can see maybe Tammy has 368 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: jumped on the red boat. But I'm not quite sure 369 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: about the others going brunette. Is Sammy Robinson a natural brunette? 370 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: I suppose I think you probably have mousey blonde hair. 371 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: It cracks me up because Amy and I were doing 372 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: some work with the hairdressing industry with Hula Media, and 373 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: I was pitching a story about hair trends and a 374 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: lot of the trends were from Euphoria. Because you're saying 375 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: the less is more this year, but it was kind 376 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: of like more is more last year, because it was 377 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: all about like baby hairs being you know, twisted into 378 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: swirls and like these bobble ponytails and like bangs. That's 379 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: for hair shows, though you're not just the hair shows. 380 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: This is like teenage girl like jen Zetta looks. I 381 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: suppose a lot of the women were talking about in 382 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: their late twenties. So I always feel the urge to 383 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: change things up. I'm actually going to the hairdresser this 384 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: afternoon and I'm getting my hair semi permanently colored because 385 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: apparently it's going to make it look a bit richer 386 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: and glossier for my wedding photo, so we're testing it out. 387 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: I want to do that too, because I feel like 388 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: my hair is just boring. It's just brown. Like I 389 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: want some highlights. I want something in it. It's funny. 390 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: I've just got you guys back to brune I don't 391 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: want anyone copying me, but I don't want to go blonde. 392 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: But I feel like this is what's gonna happen with 393 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: Sammy Robinson. She's gonna go shit like I need some more, 394 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, adempting my hair. Look, I was first taken 395 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: aback by Sammy because I love her blonde hair. But 396 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: the more I've seen it, she looks fucking stunning. I mean, 397 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: as we said, she looks stunning if she cut off 398 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: all her hair. But I'm actually into the brunette. It 399 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: makes her eyes pop like they're so blue. Well. One 400 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: influencer who definitely is not going brunette is Sophia Beg. 401 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: Let's throw to what she said when she was asked 402 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: by a follower if she's going brunette. 403 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 4: No way and never. I'm sick of that chick editing 404 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 4: my hair to be brunette. 405 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm not dyeing my hair. I refuse. 406 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 3: I'm a blondie forever. 407 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: My hair is my best asset. 408 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 4: And if if I got rid of that I I 409 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 4: would go from a floord to it two. 410 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: I think Sophia does really suit blonde hair, particularly because 411 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: of her skin tone. Now, skin tone is something you've 412 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 1: got to think about when you are changing up your hair. 413 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: She is quite naturally pale, so I feel like if 414 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: she was to have a harsh brunette color, it wouldn't 415 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: quite work for her. I just loved how she called 416 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: out some girl on Instagram that's been making a brunette like, 417 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: can this check to stop her? Okay, So update on 418 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm in bedsick. Update on the filtration system. You're gonna die. 419 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: You know the steam in your shower that doesn't happen anymore? 420 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: The steam is from ammicals. Kayla is seen us as 421 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: waged war on Adelaide water. The fitness mogul has instilled 422 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: a water filtration system in her new home to ensure 423 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: crystal clean water flows out from every tap as Adelaide 424 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: girls ourselves. What did you guys think about Kayla's comments 425 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: about our water? Is it really that bad? When I 426 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: first saw Kayla's stories, my initial feeling being a bit 427 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: defensive because I think Adelaide gets a bad rap. I 428 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: have lived in Adelaide. My whole life, except for one 429 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: year where I lived in Melbourne, and I actually did 430 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: not like the taste of Melbourne water because I felt 431 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: like it tasted too filtered and like bottled water, and 432 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: I was so happy to get home and drink relaid water. 433 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: But I think it's just because that's what I'm used to. 434 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: You're used to the foul tasting. Yeah, like the taste 435 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: of bottled water. It's just tasted weird. I actually have 436 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: done some research into it and why Adelaide water gets 437 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: a bad rap, and basically it's because South Australia is 438 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the River Mai, so our water 439 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: has to travel down further and along the way it 440 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: picks up all is contaminants, so there's extra tasty bits 441 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: of water. So basically the water has to be treated 442 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: with a lot of chemicals. So basically our water has 443 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: to be disinfected with chlorine. And the levels of chlorine 444 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: in Essays water are apparently fine from a health perspective. However, 445 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: some water has been tested to have enough chlorine that 446 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: it makes it taste and smell bad. So that's why 447 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people do have water filters in Adelaide. 448 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: Surely chlorine can't be that great for you if you're 449 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: drinking it by the gallons, and apparently it's really bad 450 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: for your hair. Remember our hairdressers saying that she used 451 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: to live in Melbourne and her hair was so much 452 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: nicer because you think about it, you're washing your hair 453 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: and it's got all these different chemicals from the water, 454 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: and I blame that for my bad hair. Well, that's 455 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: what Kayla was saying. She was saying that she when 456 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: she travels all around the world and interstate, her hair 457 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: and her skin feels so much better. So that's why 458 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: she decided to not only just get filtered water in 459 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 1: her kitchen, but she's getting it in you know, the shower, 460 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: every single tap being that rich. My tongue feels like 461 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: it's burning. Now I've got my drink ball in front 462 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: of me. I'm like, you know when you feel like 463 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: you can taste the chlorine. Well, she actually did a 464 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: test which I found very eye opening because I was 465 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: on the bandwagon of like, oh that's ridiculous, like Adelaide 466 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: water is fine. But she did this test where she 467 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: poured a glass of her Mane's water and then the 468 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: filtered water, and she put a little tablet in it, 469 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: which picks up chlorine, and if there's chlorine in the water, 470 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: it turns pink. Mains glass was all pink and then 471 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: the filtered one was clear. That actually makes feel sick 472 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: because I remember when I was at Today tonight, the 473 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: boss was all on about how bad the water is 474 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: and how it's got all these chemicals, and I was like, oh, 475 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: that's bullshit, because Mum, being a dental therapist, she always 476 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: says how good tap water is because it's got flu 477 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: ride in it. Now I'm like, do I need a 478 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: pure tap? Do we need a water take out the 479 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: back or something I go to be drinking from. Well, ironically, 480 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: Kayla did provide a twenty percent of discount code for 481 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: the filter. Can we get onto it now? Because I'm 482 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: slightly how much does it costs? Like this actually sounds 483 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: quite good. I mean, people were being very cynical about it, 484 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: but she seemed personally very passionate about the topic. I 485 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: think that the discount code actually was like did come 486 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: organically from the company. I've heard that Kayla doesn't actually 487 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: work with many brands, and you know she said before 488 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: that she wears Nike because she loves Nike. I mean, 489 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: she's got so much money that it's probably not worth 490 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: it for her to be like pushing some dodgy filter. 491 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: She cares about her health, she does what's what's the 492 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: discount code. The only thing that did confuse me a 493 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: little bit was on Wednesday, Kayla was talking about now 494 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: that the filteration process is in place, she hasn't been 495 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: having such steamy showers. She was saying that somehow the 496 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: chlorine affects how steamy the shower is. Really now I 497 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: looked into that, I don't think that's one hundred percent correct. 498 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: It appears that the chlorine doesn't so much have an 499 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: impact on the creation of steam, but it actually I mean, 500 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: because that's due to the coma. You really have looked 501 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: into that was a bit of a science experience. It's however, 502 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: chlorine has a very low boiling point, so it vaporizes 503 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: quickly in hot water. So basically, when you have the 504 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: chlorine in the hot water, it's twenty times more concentrated 505 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: than it is if you're drinking. Are you being paid 506 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: by these people as well? Because you seem to be 507 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: trying to put everyone off. I just wanted to understand why, 508 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 1: so if you remember that story about there was this 509 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: couple in Adelaide and they thought their water was a 510 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: bit off. It turns out they had had a plumber 511 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: come in and they'd accidentally connected the wrong pipe, so 512 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: they were actually drinking their own waste water tasting Yeah, 513 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: like it just tastes I mean Adelaide water. You know, 514 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: they might not have realized it is that Colorina or ship. 515 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: So basically they would taking their like waste water. Sorry, 516 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: but isn't that horrifying? Horror? It's horrifying. But I mean 517 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: how long were they drinking that for? Like, surely that's 518 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: on them to pick up that the water's not No, 519 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: it's not I think that it. Oh, is this the 520 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: water maybe that's been flushed from their toilets in it? No, 521 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: it would have particles of shit. So basically like they 522 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: were drinking it long enough to probably get quite. 523 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 4: Ill from it. 524 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: When you go to Singapore and you know that all 525 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: the water is recycled, and it's funny because Singapore is 526 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: like the cleanest place on earth, but there's something just 527 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: disturbing about knowing that that water potentially was in the 528 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: toilet rather the chemicals in it. Well, at least the 529 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: chemicals are protecting us from There's a lot of chemicals 530 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: in Singapore. So everyone coming to Adelaide just bring your 531 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: bottled water like you do in Balley to do your toothpaste, 532 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: maybe a lot of it to washing it when everyone 533 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: has such this terrible fucking view of Adelaide. 534 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, it is. I don't even know what 535 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: time right now in the morning. I have not slabbed 536 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: at all, and we are going to go have a baby. 537 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: In what's felt like the longest pregnancy ever. Ruby Tuesday 538 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: Matthews has finally welcomed her baby girl and revealed her 539 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: unusual name. So, if you take everyone out of their misery, 540 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: what is the name? Well, I don't think it's any 541 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: surprise that Ruby and her fiance Shannon Dodd picked an 542 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: unusual name because Ruby's other two children are called Rocket 543 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: and Mars, so I thought there might have been sort 544 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: of a space theme to these children's uranus. Sorry, well, 545 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: I had never heard of this baby name before and 546 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: it has a very festive feel to it. So the 547 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: baby name is Holiday Dodd. Now you said the baby name, 548 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: is it a borer girl? It's a girl. Amy said 549 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: at the start that it's a girl. Sorry miss that. 550 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: So influencer watchdog page spell Check actually guessed this name 551 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: weeks ago, so she put out her predictions, which included Sunday, Wednesday, Holiday, Dylan, 552 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: and Chiley. How did Dylan get in? Yeah? I know 553 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: that's random, isn't it. There probably was some reasoning, but anyway, 554 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: So Ruby is from Byron Bay. So I wonder if 555 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: Holiday was inspired because Byron Bay is a holiday location? 556 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: Is it because she? I mean, I suppose it's a 557 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: day like Tuesday was on the theme holiday. I didn't 558 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: even think of that. Yeah, so all the girls have 559 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: kind of days of the week or the word day 560 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: in the now Sarah's day? Is she part of it? 561 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine growing up with the name holiday. 562 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: Can you imagine working your first job like we will work? 563 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: Tot Baker's like maybe like slacking off. The boss comes 564 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: in and they're like, this isn't a holiday? Holiday? Well 565 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: that's very I think there's new generation having a lot 566 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: of unusual names. It'll work well in Byron Bay. It's 567 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: like that inspired unemployed TikTok. She's like, can Butcher come 568 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: over here? And there's I don't think it's as bad 569 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: as some of the influencer names Holiday. Yeah it's terrible. 570 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never called my child, but I'm just 571 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: saying everyone's got unusual names these day, or out their names. 572 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: I think I'd rather be good Holiday than Rocket or Mars, 573 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: to be honest, Yes day, what's worse Rock? Oh maybe 574 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: she'll be known as Holly or something. Yeah, you would 575 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: be changing it the. 576 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 4: Holly I had? 577 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: It? 578 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: Was there a date? 579 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 4: I just went to a drink with someone. Yeah, I 580 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: wouldn't even call it a date. But obviously, as we know, 581 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 4: the roster is the roster's on. The roster's getting filled up. 582 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: Abby Chatfeld has shed light on her breakup with Conrad 583 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: bn Stevens as she reveals she's currently dating two men 584 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: in the public eye. Now, Sophie, what's happened? Well, she 585 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: revealed these details in a podcast episode entitled That's what 586 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: My Pussy has been up to. So she spoke about 587 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: how she's back on the dating scene and that her 588 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: roster is in full swing. So she revealed that she 589 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: is currently dating two men who were in the public eye. 590 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: I always I wonder how this goes down with the 591 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: said people on the roster, because I've heard a few 592 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: influencers talking about their rosters, and I'm like, surely their 593 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: men that are dating them are going to listen to 594 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: their podcasts and hear that they're one of many. Do 595 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: you think there's this view though, Because they're men, they're 596 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: not going to seek it out. Like I can imagine 597 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: if I was dating someone and they had a podcast, 598 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: I'd be listening to every single episode. That's a bit stereotypical. No, 599 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: it's completely stereotypical. But our partners don't listen to that podcast. Well, 600 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: I think as well, because apparently some of them. If 601 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: we had an episode called That's what my Pussy's been 602 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: up to, I think they'd probably listen to. I think 603 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: that might spark some interesting The thing is apparently some 604 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: of the men on the roster from overseas, so she 605 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: facetimes then them, and then there's two or three men 606 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: on the current roster actually internationally. Yeah, I know, but 607 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: you're probably not that as keen anyway. Maybe she's not 608 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: as well known overseas, so then I don't think she 609 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: really cares anyway. She explained that at the moment, she 610 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: is only dating people who have a profile and who 611 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: are in the same industry as her because they're going 612 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: through similar experiences and she can't really date someone normal, 613 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: she said, can't relate to the normies. No, that's good 614 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: enough for zac Efrom. That's right, date normies now, well, 615 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: dating that normy Vanessa serious. They called her the normy 616 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: girlfriend all the time forgotten anyway. So in the episode 617 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: The Abby put Out, she sounded tired as she revealed 618 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: that she'd had the best night of her life on 619 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 1: one of the dates with these guys. She said that 620 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: she had never had a straight white man make her 621 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: laugh so much, so it seemed to be going well. 622 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: And she also said that for the first time, she 623 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: actually let someone else pay for the date because she 624 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: says she gets really anxious around paying because she thinks 625 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: that everyone thinks that she earns all this money and 626 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: that she will be a dickhead if she doesn't pay. 627 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: And I did feel bad for it because she also 628 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: said that sometimes she feels insecure that her company isn't enough, 629 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: so she wants to go get the bill. Maybe because 630 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: she's not dating normies anymore. If she's dating celebs, she's like, oh, 631 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: well they can pay, Yeah, they earn us much. 632 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: Well. 633 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: She also said that she feels like she is now 634 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: healing because she used to have this one track mind 635 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: when it came to dating, because she'd quickly become obsessed 636 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: with one person and only care if they messaged her 637 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: or called her. I found that statement quite surprising, particularly 638 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: because she had an open relationship with Conrad. So about 639 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: that open relationship was you know, this is her person 640 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: and she's very connected with them, but it was more 641 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: of a sexual thing on the side. Yeah, that is 642 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: a good point. Okay. Now, during this episode, Abby did 643 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: shed some light on her breakup with Conrad. So she 644 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: explained that she's only really ever been famous during COVID time, 645 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: so she hasn't had that opportunity to go out and 646 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: be single and go on lots of dates. So, reflecting 647 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: on COVID, Abby said that she thinks that a lot 648 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: of people are breaking up now because a lot of 649 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: those relationships started during COVID when you were forced to 650 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,239 Speaker 1: pick a bubble buddy. Here's what she said, So I 651 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: think it's really My theory is I think you were 652 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: got into relationships and even like you know, with people 653 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: that I've seen and also with like Conrad, like because 654 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: it was all coming out and then it was Christmas 655 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: when I met comrade and we it was when like 656 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: Omicron outbreak was happening. I didn't want to leave the 657 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: house because I was going to Queensland yea, And I 658 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: remembernot miss Christmas. My sister just got home from London overseas. 659 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 4: I need to go. I didn't see my mum. I 660 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 4: miss him. I'm so fucking much like I haven't seen 661 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: her like. So we didn't do anything. And even for 662 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 4: New Year's we just sat in my house in Byron 663 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 4: with two of my friends, didn't see anyone, didn't even 664 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 4: go to breakfast, didn't go to lunch, didn't do anything 665 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: in buying because it was so scared of COVID. So 666 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 4: I think that our relationship started and it was very 667 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 4: like we were still in lockdown and therefore, and this 668 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 4: is why we broke up. But I think therefore I 669 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 4: haven't had like the exciting dating of like, oh my god, 670 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 4: am I going to see this person this week? I 671 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 4: don't know. 672 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: I think Abby's right. I feel like there were so 673 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: many relationships that started in lockdown, maybe more so out 674 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: of convenience. Well, I kind of lockdown kind of accelerate 675 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: relationships because I suppose it's sort of you know, when 676 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: people joke about how all these guys go and get 677 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: girlfriends in a winter, it's kind of better to have 678 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: someone lockdown with you than to have no one. It 679 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: ruined my illusion, though, of their relationship because at the time, 680 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: I suppose, you know, I do remember the omicron was 681 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: happening and everyone was very focused on it, But they 682 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: seem to have been having a lot of wholesome fun together, 683 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: and they seemed so obsessed with each other. I remember 684 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: seeing her crying because she was so appreciative to be 685 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: there spending time with something. It doesn't mean that their 686 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: relationship wasn't real. She's just reflecting and saying that maybe 687 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: the excitement wore off as well. I think we've got 688 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: to remember, though, that both Abby and Conrad are in 689 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: the public eye and the challenges yet to air. So 690 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: it would be really interesting to put some of Abby's 691 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: comments into context, because she might be in damage control 692 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: in terms of trying to put out this perspective that 693 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, she's over him and to care about the relationship, 694 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: when I'm sure she actually did deep down. I mean, 695 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: we've all heard her talk about her boyfriend, that she 696 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: loved in her previous podcast, and she was very infatuated 697 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: with this guy, and I feel like she's obviously going 698 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: to care a lot about her first proper boyfriend. 699 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 700 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: Well, she did praise Conrad during the episode and said 701 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: that part of her healing was down to him. She 702 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: said having a healthy and supportive relationship was a big 703 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: contributor in healing the past trauma she'd had during relationships. Now, 704 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: when Abby announced her breakup with Conrad, she did say 705 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: she wanted to do so because she didn't want paparazzi 706 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: having that gotcha moment if she was spotted out on dates. 707 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: And it appears this is the case because during those 708 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: weeks she was actually dating a few other men in 709 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: the public eye. So during that time, she said, there 710 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: was this drama going on behind the scenes about keeping 711 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: one of those relationships a secret. I wonder who it is, 712 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: because she did mention on her podcast while she was 713 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: still with Conrad that she had finally slept with someone 714 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: else in terms of this open relationship at the Logis, 715 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: So I wonder if it's someone she met there. Well, 716 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: apparently this celebrity was being really weird about not wanting 717 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: to be seen with Abby, and she said it really 718 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: pissed her off because he claims he didn't want to 719 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: deal with the headlines or have strangers taking photos of 720 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: them out to dinner. But apparently she had been out 721 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: to dinner publicly with a couple of guys she's being 722 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: seeing and people haven't actually leaked any of the photos yet. 723 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: I dying to know who it is. Maybe because she 724 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: was so public about being in an open relationship that 725 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: people thought it was fair game and she can go 726 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: and have dinner with her or she wants. Well, apparently 727 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: she's told all of the guys now that she's not 728 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: hiding out anymore and she's not wasting any more time 729 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: in her twenties hiding in someone's house. Now, I think 730 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: that's all we've got time for today. Today's podcast was 731 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people of 732 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders past and present. 733 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: If you have enjoyed today's episode, could you please make 734 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: sure you are subscribed on Apple Podcasts and also Spotify, 735 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: and make sure to leave us a five star review 736 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: and rating.