1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Got two legends in the studio, got Sam Fisher, guys 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: who asked Rob. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: Guys, Hello boys, how are you? 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 3: Oh? 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: You guys are the real boys in town now. I mean, 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: I feel like our bromance is really eclipsed. But today 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm feeling I'm feeling threatened. I'm feeling threatened on the 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: bromance front. 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 4: There's a lot of. 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: I think that's the gauge though, of frendship that we 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: were talking about this before is when you can will 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: work with songwriters all the time and they're normally strangers, 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 3: and you have to pour your guts into emotions and 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: into a song and you've literally never met this person before, 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 3: so like you're talking about all sorts of stuff and 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 3: then writing songs, and then there's that feeling of like, oh, 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 3: it's offensive because that lyric you just suggested is so. 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 5: Nash Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: Whereas immediately we knew we were called with each other 20 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: because I'm like, that's terrible. 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: I feel like you guys, you might have known you 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: were cool and feel there's been a beautiful emotional vulnerability 23 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: between you and yet guy, you still couldn't get Sam's email, Right, 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:12,919 Speaker 1: I've got some audio. 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 6: Who did I don't know, bro, who's that man? 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 4: How many times have you email that person? Yeah? Look, 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 4: it was like there was a lot of me, Okay, do. 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 6: You want my actual email or you want to just 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 6: keep selling? 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 7: Yeah. 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 8: I feel like this is one of those moments though, 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 8: where like you've met a girl out or something and 33 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 8: not really been interested in just going yeah, yeah, yeah, 34 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 8: it's Sam dot Fisher a Gmail and that audio is 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 8: you getting found out? 36 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 6: But terrible, i'mout terrible because he's like sending me update 37 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 6: after update. 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 4: Because for today, guy. 39 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 6: Worked on this tirelessly for like nine months and sending 40 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 6: version after version after version, and that would be like 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 6: a couple of months that would go by the way. 42 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 6: I wouldn't hear anything, and then I'd text me like yo, 43 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 6: like how's it going? 44 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: Can you start working? He's sending all these updates to. 45 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: La to record choirs somewhere else to record them, like like. 46 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 5: Bro, check this, Hammond, Like there's the keys I just 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 5: added to this. 48 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 4: Now it's not bouncing back. They just don't. 49 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: There's another sandfish of somewhere who's the only person in 50 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: the world who's been catfished by Guy Sebastian. 51 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: And I'm the only person in the world to be 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: brushed by two seadfishes. 53 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 8: This is an amazing those Sam, because I know that 54 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 8: you you really looked up to go Sebastian right if 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 8: I read that right now, all of a sudden. 56 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 6: I mean, like, as it's pretty, it's quite baller, isn't it. 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 4: Growing up? 58 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 6: I mean, Guy has been around for twenty years and 59 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 6: at the top of the game, his voice really like 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 6: it was the vocal Bible, and like, as someone who 61 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 6: grew up listening to singers like Donnie Hathaway and Boys 62 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 6: to Men and Brian McKnight. 63 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 4: They were my vocal adults. And then to have an Australian. 64 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 6: Idol sorry, it was like, oh my god. And then 65 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 6: when this city took off and Guy followed me on Instagram, 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 6: I was. 67 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 4: Like how soon? 68 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 6: How I was like, how soon should I follow him back? 69 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 6: And then it was like intrusive thought and I went 70 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 6: following and then and then I was waiting for his 71 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 6: message and he didn't, so I was like. 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 4: You better sing on like a video that he. 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 6: Had done, and then we just got talking and like 74 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 6: very quickly realized we were just like very compatible humans. 75 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 6: And then when we wrote I was like trying to 76 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 6: play at cool but on the inside being like, if 77 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 6: you don't deliver today. 78 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 8: Broling a cool guy? Or was it obvious that he 79 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 8: was a bit of No. 80 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 4: But it's interesting. 81 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: It's interesting to get that perspective because like, my perspective 82 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: is the other way where I'm like figured out that 83 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: this dude who sings this song that I've loved for 84 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: eighteen months before it like really blew up is Ozzy. 85 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: First of all, I didn't know he was Australian, and 86 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: then when I discovered that, I became such a fan. 87 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: So then anything that you'd release, I'd be like, oh man, 88 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: this his voice is just like chocolate and oh that's nice. 89 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 90 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: So my perspective is like, I'm so lucky getting to 91 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: work with such a talented dude who and when you 92 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: follow someone you feel like you know them, you know. 93 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: And particularly music as well. 94 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so I just knew we get along. And 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 3: then my druma got married in Melbourne. Actually, the last 96 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: line of his wedding speech was You're just the antidote 97 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: to all my problems. I was like, wow, that's such 98 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: a beautiful thing. And it had a little chorus idea 99 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 3: Sam came in the next day and we wrote the song. 100 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: Cool, well should we hear it? Nice? 101 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 8: Such a drummer get royalties? Then if he came. 102 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: It was his line at the end of it wedding speech, 103 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: Well he was no longer the drum shut up? 104 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: Would he shut up? Shut up? 105 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: Performed on Australian Idol the other night Lovely Harmony. 106 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 5: Now yeah, we were in good nice. 107 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 108 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: So Sam, this is obviously like I feel like if 109 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm in your shoes there, there's got to be a 110 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: whole lot of stuff for you emotionally going on like this, 111 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, guy kind of made his entrance onto the 112 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: Australian stage. The only thing I can kind of relate 113 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: it to is when I was on holidays and Dad 114 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: used to take me to the hospital like when he 115 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: was working, and I had this like real sense of 116 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: imposter syndrome going on, did you did you? Did you hospital? 117 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 118 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: Because he was a doctor, so going to work with 119 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: me and I'd be like, yeah, cool station and hang out? 120 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: Was that going on for you? Like this is Australian Idol, Guys. 121 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 6: I was like really like trying to just like chill 122 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 6: on it until Guys said to me that he hadn't 123 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 6: been back in twenty years since he'd won, and I 124 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 6: was like, the chances of little old me. Why do 125 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 6: I have been a part of being a part of 126 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 6: that moment? 127 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 5: And I was. 128 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 6: Like, this is I felt, Yeah, imposter syndrome was raging, 129 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 6: but it was It was pretty cool. 130 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 5: It was very nostalgic. 131 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 3: Actually, when we walked in for sound check and I 132 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: saw that Australian idol sim like across the desk, and 133 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: then the day got busier because poor Marsha I ended 134 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: up having to fill in. I was talking to Kyle 135 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: and Calm made a joke. He was like, oh, they 136 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: might ask you to fill in, and I was like, 137 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: I'm not filling in? Was like and then literally as 138 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: I said it, my manager walked into the room and 139 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: she goes guy. Because for me, like I haven't seen 140 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: every single episode because we've been filming the voice as well, 141 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: so the show's been airing. I didn't want to get 142 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 3: up there and just not know what I was talking about, 143 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 3: like hello David, I just you know, I didn't want 144 00:06:59,600 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: to be. 145 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 8: That when do I spin my chir around guy facing this. 146 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: They were like cheap chairs, but they didn't want to 147 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: ask nolesy or they were afraid they couldn't get his biceps, 148 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: or in the same frame. 149 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: It made a unit at the moment. Yeah, hell did 150 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: you hear that performance of him and Dylan? I reckon 151 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: that is why Dylan won. 152 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 8: I'm mentioned by you guys spending so much time together, 153 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 8: like the more we talk to you, like you are 154 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 8: genuinely hanging out all the time before, Like during the 155 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 8: song there, you mentioned that a guy called p J. 156 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 8: Morton is going to be performing tonight, and now you 157 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 8: guys are definitely going to go to that gig together. 158 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 4: I think it's so if we can get in. 159 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 8: I think Sam Fisher and Will probably. 160 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: Her names carry waiting certain I actually he pulled me 161 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: up that For those that don't know PJ. Morton, he's ridiculous. 162 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: Like as a musician, he's a real musos music and 163 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: his in Maroon five, he's in the band, and his 164 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: his voice and his piano playing is the best thing 165 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: I've ever I saw it. I was lucky enough he 166 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: did a pop up gig in l A at. 167 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 5: A place that I've played at as well. 168 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: It's only a small hotel cafe and all these gospel 169 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: singers just walk like just started like really well known. 170 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: It'll be like that tonight too. And for any city 171 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: to do it in Australia, Melbourne's a place for pter Moreton. 172 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: They get it and they love But you. 173 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 8: Said last time he actually pulled you up on stage. Yeah, 174 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 8: saw him. I'm so curious. 175 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: But you'll struggle to get in, do you have? 176 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 2: We got the status for good. 177 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: One. 178 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 5: You know what, he pulled me up forward? But ye, 179 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 5: but he did an I know your. 180 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 3: Eyes in the morning, So I see he does this 181 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: sick version of featuring yeb and it's if you're going 182 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: to cover anyone's part, you don't want it to be Yeah. 183 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: By Shoes is the most incredible singer. But yeah, so 184 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: we might check that out. And you're not doing anything 185 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: Melbourne and it's not sold out, go and. 186 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: Check it out. 187 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 5: But while we're at it for plugging, Sam Fisher will 188 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 5: be Yeah, you're touring. 189 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: You're touring at the moment, Sammy, Thanks brother, that was 190 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: really good. 191 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm touring. I'm coming back in a month. 192 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 6: And playing Melbourne, Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourn, Brisbane, Sydney May ninth 193 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 6: and Brisbon May tenth and Sydney May eleventh and Melbourne. 194 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 5: Howla beautiful, amazing and then. 195 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: Buying download, entered it and stream it. 196 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: And Sam Fisher music dot com he's practiced at that's 197 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: right here, ended out again street wherever you get your music. Guys, 198 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: thanks for coming in, Thank you than both, congratulations, threatened 199 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: and next time you're in Gay Chicken. 200 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 4: Fall Away. 201 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 5: I can't believe that idea came full circle. 202 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: Now wards, we have been talking about our behind the 203 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: scenes podcast for a little while hour and we really 204 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: want you guys to go and have a listen to 205 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: it because it is very different than the radio show. 206 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: There are whole new adventures. We get to be a 207 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: little bit more naughty, oh I suggest as well. 208 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, recently we were talking about our most awkward sexual encounters. 209 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 8: But before that, and to show off the range of 210 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 8: the behind the Scenes podcast range, we were also exploring 211 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 8: a button push a Tommy's Well mystery in your House Tommy. 212 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 9: It was a forty year old mystery that I found 213 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 9: in my house. 214 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 8: Would he totally wild? If you haven't heard the podcast, 215 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 8: have a listen to this. 216 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 9: I have a mystery that I found in my house. 217 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: You found it needs solving. 218 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 10: Oh, you're gonna go. 219 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, let's just do it. Let's be a funny, are 220 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 8: you go? 221 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 9: I'm having it here next to my fireplace because a 222 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 9: super old house was built in eighteen eighty seven. There's 223 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 9: like a bunch of shells. My partner, Seth, he was 224 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 9: up on the stairs talking to me one night going 225 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 9: to bed, and he's like, there's something on the top 226 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 9: shelf over there. Now, we don't use the top shelf 227 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 9: because it's way too high up for anything. It's one 228 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 9: and a half to two people talk. 229 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 8: But if we're talking behind Lebron James, Lebron James are 230 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 8: probably more than Lebron. Okay, that's huge, it's big. 231 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: Can he reach it? Can he reach the top shelf? 232 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 9: You need a ladder, need a ladder. Gets the ladder, 233 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 9: gets the thing right, he pulls it down. From the 234 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 9: top shelf comes a photo album covered in dust. 235 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 8: Ter wow, absolutely terrif wow. 236 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 9: We open the photo album and it says visit to 237 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 9: Grandma's house nineteen eighty five. In the front page of 238 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 9: the photo album, he's an America can address. Would you 239 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 9: like to see thus photo album? 240 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: May have it? 241 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's like it's from a horror movie. It's like 242 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 11: a small what what small leather bound? It says mini 243 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 11: album on it. So it's got, it's got, it's got 244 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 11: what it appears to. 245 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 8: Be like a painting of some flowers on the front. 246 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 9: It is how every good horror movie starts. 247 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: Are you sucks for you that you've touched that? 248 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 4: By the way, would he? 249 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: You are now cursed? Oh? Bugger yeah, suffering your jocks? Mate? 250 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: You set me up. 251 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 8: Now I'm part of this. 252 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 7: There we go. 253 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: Yes, So I was cursed at that point instantly. 254 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 8: And then we just went into research mode and we 255 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 8: actually recorded this entire thing on our podcast is ass 256 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 8: pounding away on the keypad of our respective laptops. And 257 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 8: here's what we found out. She wrote a book called 258 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 8: The Fine Art of Copy Editing. 259 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: That's her, the grandma. That's the grandma, the grandma's or 260 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: the grandma's in New York, isn't she? 261 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 8: The Publisher's. 262 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 9: Press former press managing editor dies at ninety six? 263 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: This was in two thousand and seven. 264 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 8: Oh my god. 265 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 9: Interesting who spent most of her adulthood in Ithaca. 266 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's her six. 267 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 9: She is survived by a son and daughter and extended family. 268 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 8: So at the end of that. We had a name 269 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 8: and a number of the guy who owned this photo album. Yeah, 270 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 8: he was the phone called too in, the owner of 271 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 8: the cursed photo album. 272 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: Yes, this is I in here. 273 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 7: What is all this about? 274 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: Ra The last week or so on the podcast, we've 275 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: been talking about this little photo album called mini Album, 276 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: which Tom found in his house on a very high shelf. 277 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 12: This is down in Collingwood. I'm guessing it. Yes, I 278 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 12: used to live there and was kicked out because her 279 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 12: owners sold the police. So I hope you're enjoying the place. 280 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: I am well, I am sorry. 281 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,119 Speaker 8: I was the purchaser. 282 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: We found this book. Tom found this book. It's got 283 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: at Grandma's house. Grandma gr mm a posturevis Headward, Yes. 284 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 12: Graandmar Yeah, that's definitely my grandmother, Elsie els. 285 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: In Ethic in New York. 286 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 12: He was an absolutely amazing, amazing person, just a pioneering woman, 287 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 12: a philosopher. 288 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 8: She was an academic, right, but first ever woman to 289 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 8: get a degree in philosophy. 290 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 12: We believe that that is exactly right, one of the 291 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 12: earliest in the United States graduate degree in philosophy from 292 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 12: Cornell University. 293 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 13: The first woman. 294 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 12: I mean, she raised my mother and her brother by 295 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 12: herself because my grandfather was tragically young. So just an amazing, 296 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 12: amazing person. 297 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 8: Wow, I wrote an amazing book as well. 298 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: There's this very popular book on publication or something like that. 299 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 12: That published the author and much much consulted on the 300 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 12: relationship between editors and writers, which she sort of want 301 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 12: a person to explore that unique relationship and with a 302 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 12: very popular book on that topic. 303 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 8: Fascinating, amazing. 304 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: So I think we've got your book, which is the 305 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: first point. 306 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 8: So is this something you've been looking for in is 307 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 8: this something that you've been like, Oh, I never knew that's. 308 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 12: Been gone and would love to get it back, and 309 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 12: I've just assumed it's been missing somewhere. 310 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: Now, Ian, the next thing you need to know is 311 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: that when we first found the book, there was a 312 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: lot of chat around. You know when you find like 313 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: an old photo album, how quickly you can impute a 314 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: sense of evil on like an old weird photo album 315 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: children and wild shots. So I just need to clear 316 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: something up before we give it back. What do you 317 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: think there's evidence in here to suggest that you may 318 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: have as a five year old killed multiple people, largely 319 00:15:55,080 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: largely sorry the tree mulcher. He thinks that the bodies 320 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: might have been put in. 321 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 4: I don't. 322 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 12: I don't know what kind of operation you've got on 323 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 12: going on over there. But you're wondering if it's curse. 324 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 12: I think you got me. It's it's cursed. 325 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 13: I mean I can get rid of it for years. 326 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 12: It's a new will and Woodi's problem now, right, That's 327 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 12: what I said. 328 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: Well, I've been careful not to handle it because I 329 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: thought i'd been cursed. What is the curse Ian? 330 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 8: Because I assume you had it until you left the 331 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 8: photo album in Collingwood. 332 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm not allowed, not allowed to speak of it, 333 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 12: not allowed. 334 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: To speak about. 335 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: The funny thing was, when we were looking you up, 336 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: it showed that you were like this specialist in Sanskrit 337 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: and Persian and like translating ancient languages. All of a sudden, 338 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: what he was like, like he's a witch. 339 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 12: Like it's definitely not a witch. I do teak Hindi 340 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 12: language at the university level. No witchcraft involved. India is 341 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 12: not the only country full of mystical writings, but there's there. 342 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 12: I'll just give you very two lines of poetry from 343 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 12: this is fifteenth century, so by very important Kadir ubub 344 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 12: and that just means if there's something you can do 345 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 12: like tomorrow, no, just do it now, do it now, 346 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 12: because everything can be lost, everything can turn to dust 347 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 12: in just an instant. So if not now, when would 348 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 12: the chance to do it again come? So that's what 349 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 12: that's that's that's five centuries old and I think quite 350 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 12: relevant today, especially they give us a photo album, these 351 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 12: memories that are just instance in time. 352 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 8: In the past, right, people talk about this mindfulness and 353 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 8: doing things now and in the moment. That's extraordinary. That 354 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 8: was written five hundred years ago in But let's get 355 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 8: back to the returning of this photo album, I mean, 356 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 8: five hundred bucks and we'll get we'll get an address 357 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 8: off your might and we'll send. 358 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 7: That to you. 359 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 12: Perfect all right, that sounds great, looking forward, just getting 360 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 12: it back, take care. 361 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: Of thanks bye here, bye and show. Let's get good 362 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: vomb on this show. And yeah, look, yeah it is scary. 363 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: That's why we play the jacular music. 364 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 8: Obviously, Woods I hate it, but I love it. Well, yeah, 365 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 8: it's I love hate relationship. Like I always at this stage, 366 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 8: I'm like, I hate this, I hate this, I hate this. 367 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 8: I hope the whole station just breaks down. Right now, 368 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 8: and I don't have to do this. But that's why 369 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 8: I know it's good. Yeah, that's why I know it's 370 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 8: really important. 371 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, me so much. Yeah, it's like what a Lanis 372 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: Morissett said, it's about a songwriting. 373 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 8: It's like rain on your wedding day exactly. 374 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: All right, here we go if I know that, absolutely mate, 375 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 1: this time, I've picked a card for you. Yes, all right, 376 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: because you haven't come in here with anything lazy. 377 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 8: The sort of thing I think about a lot. 378 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. You got to answer one 379 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: of these questions on the other side of the song 380 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: far away. Okay, first question, the last time I got 381 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: unreasonably upset dot dot dot. Yeah, when it comes to 382 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: initiating sex, I prefer dot dot dot feels like a 383 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: bit of a cop out for you. That one third 384 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: one I'm working too. I know you can said on 385 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: your face a risk I took that changed my life. 386 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: Dot dot dot good questions, hot game. 387 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 8: I don't really like. I don't like saying this because 388 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 8: I never like admitting when I'm really lacking confidence in 389 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 8: something or at something hard thing to do, full stop. Yeah, 390 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 8: So the answer to the question is I much prefer 391 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 8: it when my partner Mim initiates, and that is because 392 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 8: to initiate is a very very vulnerable thing to do, 393 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 8: because you are opening yourself up to be rejected, and 394 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 8: it's not fair in our relationship. She initiates far more 395 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 8: because I would prefer to be in my cocoon of 396 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 8: safety in that I can't be rejected because she's always 397 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 8: one initiating. And I realized that was a bit of 398 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 8: an imbalance there, and we had spoken about that. And 399 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 8: I think what happened as well is that when I 400 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 8: initiate now, I initiate in a way that is, in 401 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 8: my head subtle enough that if nothing comes of it, 402 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 8: it's like maybe I actually wasn't initiating. So what ends 403 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 8: up happening is We'll be sitting on the couch and 404 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 8: I'll start I'll start like doing doing whoope dooopies on 405 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 8: her nose, like I've genuinely I will, I will stroke 406 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 8: her face and go oooo on her nose. In my 407 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 8: and I know that sounds so silly. I know that 408 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 8: sounds so stupid. In my head, that's me very tentatively 409 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 8: going starting physical contact. Yeah, bit of fun. Yeah, it 410 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 8: sounds so stupid, but I'm going, I'm quite uncomfortable in 411 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 8: that situation because I'm going, I imagine. 412 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: You'd be pretty young. Well, she's just like this on 413 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: your This. 414 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 8: Is just so annoying. This is the most annoying thing 415 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 8: a human being could do to me. And I'm sitting 416 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 8: there going, oh, bloody hell, I'm putting myself out there, 417 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 8: and naturally she'll be annoyed by my whoopie dooopie that 418 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 8: I'm doing on her nose. And sometimes I will take 419 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 8: that as a rejection. Oh well, of course again, and 420 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 8: I know has to be this sad, but I'm being genuine. 421 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 8: Do you think, yeah, I then won't bring up the 422 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 8: fact that like, oh I hate sorry, just so you 423 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 8: know I was. I was actually doing that because I 424 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 8: thought that maybe we could. 425 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: Of course, so you're trying to initiate viral way that 426 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: isn't considered a classic means of initiating, because then then 427 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: she's got no idea, and then you can go, hey, mate, 428 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: I was just winding the clock back to your three 429 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: year old kindergarten. We used to do whoopy doobies had 430 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: nothing to do with sex. 431 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 8: I know it sounds funny, but it's not so much 432 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 8: about her knowing that she's rejected me. It's it's about me. Yeah, 433 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 8: I can justify to myself it's okay, mate, don't get 434 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 8: into a self loathing loop here. Yeah, you weren't rejected 435 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 8: because you actually she actually may not have even known 436 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 8: you're You're okay, You're safe. 437 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it's unusual for people to have what 438 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: you have reinitiating sex, like putting yourself out there and 439 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: saying I want to have sex. 440 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 10: You know. 441 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: I know lots of people that couldn't have sex until 442 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: they were drunk for a very long time because it 443 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: was just like, well, that's the only way that I'm 444 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: going to feel confident enough to do this. So there 445 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: are lots of times where I will say yes in 446 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: the past just because i'mplicating you. And that's scared. That sucks, 447 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: and that really scared me. And I had to say 448 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: to her, I was like, that just cannot be a 449 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: thing because only I know. And she was like, okay, fine, 450 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: but you need to know that like if I like, 451 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: if it's no, it's not personal, it's just like it's no. 452 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: I heard a really good expression recently that sex needs 453 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: to be frequent and insignificant. Yes, so it's not a 454 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: big deal if it's then less frequent and momentous. I 455 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: don't know if this helps you at all, but this 456 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: helped me massively. And I got this tip through a 457 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: relationship therapist. But she said to me, stop trying to 458 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: aim for like when you go into initiate sex, whether 459 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: it will be down will be or however, you're choosing 460 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: to go for the big whoopa, lower your horizon. Don't 461 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: go in, don't try and go for sex with the lips. 462 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: Oh no, quite literally, don't go for home base would 463 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: make your sexual interaction. Hey, can I kiss you for 464 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: a little bit? 465 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 8: Oh, kissing? Kissing? I'm actually fine like kissing. We kiss 466 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 8: a lot. 467 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, that for me was a nice thing to 468 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: know that because then I as soon as I took away, 469 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: like logically, as long as I as soon as I 470 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: take away where I'm aiming and lower where I'm aiming, 471 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: then that again creates that sense of insignificance. Right then 472 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, who cares? You just rejected me for 473 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: a kiss? 474 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, do you see what I mean? 475 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: Yes, if you go in there going I'm going for 476 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: the home base here, This is the home run and 477 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: going the whole nine yards. Then if you get rejected, 478 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: then you got rejected for the whole nine yards. But 479 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: if you're only going for a kiss or a bum tap, yeah, 480 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: then you're just getting rejected for that. 481 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: Gotcha all right? 482 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 8: Hey, mem I was just coming for a bum tap. Hey, Hey, hey, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. 483 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 8: You have many skills, will yeah, very very jealous of 484 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 8: your many skills, and I would sugg Okay, the one 485 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 8: I want to talk about. 486 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: I met a couple of others before. Then. 487 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 8: No, no, no no, because you get I've got many 488 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 8: listen to you. You get too big of a haven, 489 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 8: and I've got to fit in this radio show. 490 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: You build me up, build me up. If you want 491 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: to make me dance like a monkey, give me one skill. 492 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 8: I'm not going to make you dance like I'm giving 493 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 8: you one skill that I want to talk about, and 494 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 8: that's your ability to set up a date. You'll always 495 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 8: hear about the dates that you set up for you 496 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 8: and your partner, Sem that they're always so well thought out, 497 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 8: that mantic, like what's the last date you had with 498 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 8: your partner? 499 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 10: Sam? 500 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: Look to be honest with you. We watched Oppenheimer and 501 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: had cold pizza last night. 502 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 8: Okay, we all have our missus. We all unfortunately. 503 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: Had a huge argument during the day. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, 504 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: and that's where we're at. 505 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 8: Well, you know, sometimes Wayne Carey missus gals and that's 506 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 8: a weird nineties Footy reference. But I have found myself 507 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 8: struggling in the date creation sphere. So what's happened in 508 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 8: my relationship with Mim is. I was organizing a lot 509 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 8: more dates early in our relationship. 510 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: Of course, I think that's that's pretty natural though, Like 511 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: I think everyone goes hard early to try and wow 512 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: out other person. 513 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 8: But then when I was then copying criticism for the 514 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 8: holes in my dates and totally fair enough criticisms from Mim, 515 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 8: I got a bit gun shy, and I think I 516 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 8: stopped organizing as many dates. So a rule, a little 517 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 8: policy that Mim and I have set is you can 518 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 8: never criticize a date that's been organized by someone. Do 519 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 8: you okay, do you think that's a good rule? 520 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: Notoriously, shit, this is this is the. 521 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 8: Point of difference I find or like, the real dilemma 522 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 8: here is I think it's a good rule, But unfortunately 523 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 8: mim is now the opinion that I'm abusing that rule. 524 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 8: So the last date that I organized. 525 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. I could not agree more. 526 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 8: We went to I organized us going to a shopping 527 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 8: center to get to get grilled. That was step one, 528 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 8: So grilled into time zone for an hour, so play 529 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 8: as many games as you want for an hour, which 530 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 8: I booked in. And then we went and saw June two, 531 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 8: the date, and we finished. 532 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 1: It and we had You had the best time ever. 533 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 4: I loved it. 534 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 8: I remember I loved it. 535 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: I remember you explaining that to me. It was because 536 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: I went I'd gone to a music festival with Sem, 537 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: which was really special time together. And then I was like, 538 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: how was your weekend? And you were like, wonderful. We 539 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: were actually in the shopping mall that you were in 540 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: over the weekend as well, and you were like, we 541 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: were just here grilled time zone June two, which I 542 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: think for most and look I'm stereotyping here, but I 543 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: think that for most women over the age of thirties, 544 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, with kids, that's argue with their idea of 545 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: like tortures. 546 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 8: And we organized a babysitter, so we're paying for a babysitter. 547 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: This is like our so she doesn't know. So she's 548 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: flying blind at this stage, like got the babysitter, She's 549 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: probably got a set of heels on. She's thinking, great, 550 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: nice dinner, blindfold, a trip down the river, blindfolder in 551 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: the car. 552 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 8: Here we go, take off the blindfold, shopping traditional or 553 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 8: penny bread go. So look what I want to ask 554 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 8: on thirteen one O six five is do people think 555 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 8: this is a good rule? Because on the positive. 556 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: Side, game did she play in time Zone? 557 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 8: Like we had as many games as when she I 558 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 8: know you did, and. 559 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: Like that's what you would like to do, But what's 560 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: she doing in that instance? 561 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 8: All of them are two player, so we had Halo 562 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 8: for a good just crushing her, destroying her. We shot, 563 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 8: we shot hoops, we did the Mario card racing, so 564 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 8: she just. 565 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: Had an hour of getting beaten and then she just 566 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: had dennis Ville Nerve just berate her ear drums with 567 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: drones and shots of the desert for three hours. 568 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 8: That was her night. And then because we'd set the rule, 569 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 8: she wasn't allowed to criticize the. 570 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: Date, so come up and it was crap, like when 571 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: did she get the to turn to you and go 572 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: ship date? 573 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 8: No, shit date, bro No because of the rule. She 574 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 8: actually held back from her criticism, but she did say, 575 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 8: do we need to bring back or rethink this rule 576 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 8: of we're not allowed to criticize. I've got a few 577 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 8: things to say anyway. Third six five is the number. 578 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 8: I want to hear. What you guys think, Is this 579 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 8: a good rule? Should you not be allowed to criticize 580 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 8: your partner's dates? Because I'll put one positive forward because 581 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 8: I feel it we've been very negative towards the rule. 582 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 8: I'm now going to set more dates. I've locked in 583 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 8: the shopping center a really bad date. What were you 584 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 8: going to say? 585 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: I was going to say partner, But. 586 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 8: To get into that another time, it's a much deeper conversation. 587 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 8: I'm not going to dates though, But I did say 588 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 8: to Mim, I think I think I'd feel more confident 589 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 8: to organize more dates if I wasn't then fearing the 590 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 8: criticism after them. 591 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: Although there's no chance to improve there, and it also 592 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: gives you carte blanche to organize things that you want 593 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: to do. 594 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 8: Hence we ended up at times. 595 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: So you do realize though that like you've taken this 596 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: too far, Like you had a rule lined up and 597 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: then you got greedy and you organized a grilled time 598 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: zone Dune Treble. I totally, that's yeah. 599 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 8: We also went to the supermarket before the movies and 600 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 8: her handbag became like Mary Poppin's bag as she pulled 601 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 8: out all my snacks during the movie. Let's go to 602 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 8: Katie here, I'm thirteen one oh sixty five. Great, I 603 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 8: want to hear a female opinion here, Kate. Do you 604 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 8: think this is a good rule for relationships that you 605 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 8: can't criticize the that your partner's organized. 606 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 10: I think it's a great rule. 607 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: Great. 608 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 8: Why do you think that post. 609 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 7: Focus on any time? Did you anything anything good? 610 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 13: And then you feel so guilty that you were just 611 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 13: like average planning the date? 612 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 7: Do you want them to feel good? 613 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 12: Oh? 614 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 8: So you think that you think that I'm now suffering 615 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 8: from the guilt that I know I've not yet? 616 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: Not yet you will if she's just nice enough. 617 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 618 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's so nice for you to spend time with me. 619 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 7: Thank you. 620 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: Interesting, Kate, How would you feel about a grilled time 621 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: zone June to Treble. 622 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 13: Well, if the intent was to tried, it's. 623 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 7: A start, and. 624 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 8: It's nice, that's true. It steps in the right direction 625 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 8: because you. 626 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: Were trying previously because you were a gun shy. 627 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 8: I was so I was so nervous about That's another 628 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 8: way of. 629 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: You saying you were you weren't allowed to do what 630 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: you wanted to do on a date. 631 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 8: Well maybe, but also I was just so nervous about 632 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 8: doing organizing a poor date that I. 633 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: Got what was the bad one that first put you 634 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: in this spot? 635 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 8: What do you reckon? Be not allowed to criticize partners dates? 636 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: Oh god, no. 637 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 13: If my husband sets a date up and it's going 638 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 13: to golf and I just enjoy it, I'm going to 639 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 13: tell him that was ship. 640 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 10: I love you, but it was ship. 641 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 8: Cand to say, if you're giving feedback, be a little 642 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 8: bit more gentle. It's going over. 643 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: I Also, if you've created the rule, then don't give 644 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: them a ship sandwich for a day. It was like 645 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: you you should have stepped within the lines. You made 646 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: the rule, and then you should have gone that's really 647 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: nice of you. You know, I'm going to choose one 648 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: of grilled time Zone in June to take you out 649 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: on you at the showcase. 650 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 8: One thing she loves comfortable seats in cinemas, so I 651 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 8: booked the cinema specifically because of the comfortable seats. So 652 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 8: I feel like you can find positive like Bianca, if 653 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 8: your partner took you to golf, what's one positive out 654 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 8: of that? 655 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 7: Nothing? 656 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 8: Okay, perfect, Sometimes you can't find it positive. Let's go 657 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 8: to Josie now on thirteen one O six y five. Josie, 658 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 8: what are your records? I'm trialing this new rule in 659 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 8: the relationship that we're not allowed to criticize each other's dates. 660 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 8: What do you think? 661 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 13: Ok? I think it's fair like not to criticize each 662 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 13: other's das because at least your partner's actually trying, he's 663 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 13: actually making an efforts to plan. 664 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: It's very nice of you, and I understand what you're 665 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: trying to it. Woody, I want to Josie's down the line. 666 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: Josie's down the line. What was the date that led 667 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: to you making the no criticism rule? 668 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 7: Like? 669 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 8: What was the do you remember what the date was? 670 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 8: Such a big one, you know, it's the it's theo 671 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 8: it was it. It was the day that I proposed 672 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 8: to her, which was a bit of a like on 673 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 8: a whim kind of thing, concrete and the concrete courtyard, 674 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 8: and then I said I've got the day sordered for us, 675 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 8: and I hadn't booked anything, so the night ended up 676 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 8: being the two of us just walking around the city effectively, 677 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 8: and she was dressed up beautifully, new engagement ring on, 678 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 8: and we effectively just door door knocked on restaurants and 679 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 8: then ended up like sitting like inside the kitchen. 680 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: Josie, now you've heard that, what do you think about 681 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: the rule? 682 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 7: Honestly, I still think it's okay, because, yes, on an 683 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 7: unplanned date always ends up being the best type of date, 684 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 7: and we had a great time. 685 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 8: We actually had an amazing time, according to me. 686 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: According to me, question for you and for everybody else, 687 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: is there a good enough reason as to why you 688 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: should wake your partner up from a deep sleep. You know, 689 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna get rid of the word partner there. 690 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 8: I'm just going to say, anyone if I'm in immediate physical. 691 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: Danger, obviously, obviously, So there's a few things that have 692 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: to his head. Immediate physical danger for either part of 693 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: either one, for either one of you, or some sort 694 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: of medical emergency. Let's just say emergency. We're emergency, Absolutely 695 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: wake the person up. Great idea. Another one would be 696 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: for me, But what I'm interested in, and I'd love 697 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: to hear from other people on third one or six five. 698 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: What's the bar underneath that? Because as you and I 699 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: know getting you know with with having kids recently in particular, 700 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: but it's not the biggest factor of definitely a factor 701 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: in this. If you are sound asleep, that is like 702 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: the most precious time in the whole world, totally, that 703 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 1: is that to interrupt that for me, the bar has 704 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: been raised. 705 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 8: Him and I have the rule specifically with remy waking up, 706 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 8: that if one of us has woken up and the 707 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 8: other is asleep, we view it as well, well, I'm 708 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 8: up anyway, I'm up, So there's no benefit of wake. 709 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 8: If you've managed to sleep through that cry amazing, that's 710 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 8: great that it hasn't brought both of us down, because 711 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 8: then it works well in the future because then so 712 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 8: for example, if I sleep her through yep, and MIM's 713 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 8: woken up right, so that's at three am, then she 714 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 8: might say to me in the morning, hey, I was 715 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 8: up at three with her. You slept through it, well done. 716 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 8: Can you take her for a few hours, because now 717 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 8: I'm trusting her there because obviously if I've slept through that, 718 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 8: I've actually got no idea. 719 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 14: She slept as well, she just got sleeping. I go 720 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 14: to the cameras. I go to the cameras when the 721 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 14: god go, well on the word because as soon as 722 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 14: you breach the trust, that rule is screwed. Well you shouldn't, yeah, 723 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 14: but that that rule is fast. 724 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 8: But outside of the baby stuff, I would also say 725 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 8: to her, only wake me up if if you like, why. 726 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 4: The threshold there? 727 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 13: Is it? 728 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 1: Like I can't find the TV remote? 729 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 12: Is that no? 730 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 5: No, no, no no no. 731 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 8: It needs to be of a benefit to me. So 732 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 8: I would say to her, you know me, you know 733 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 8: me more than anyone on this planet. Right, Okay, so 734 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 8: what is the thing that you think would be worth 735 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 8: waking up? 736 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 10: More? 737 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 8: So she might say, Hey, And someone knocked on the 738 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 8: door and it was the captain of the Melbourne Football 739 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 8: Club and I thought, I obviously thought you'd want to 740 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 8: see them. 741 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to go to Ellis one of his six 742 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: five Ellie, what's what's the threshold? 743 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 10: Like? 744 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: Is there a good enough reason to wake up someone 745 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: outside of an emergency? 746 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely. 747 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 13: My husband has no problems with me waking him up 748 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 13: if it's for a bit of you know. 749 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: Ah, And we're back on the benefit side of things. 750 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 8: Thanky thanky. 751 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a benefit to him in that situation. 752 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, girls night and I come home. 753 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 13: He's got no problem with me. 754 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 2: Waking him up. 755 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 8: Is it a weekend or is it a week night? 756 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 8: Because sometimes if I say I've got an early start 757 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 8: the next day. 758 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: Are we talking here, we're talking just like a transactional 759 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: straight up and downside of affair or. 760 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 12: I don't know, you've gone a bit too codish. 761 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 5: For me there. 762 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. 763 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 8: And also that's quite a personal question to be asking why. 764 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: It was a bit of a personal question. 765 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 8: Too much of a question. 766 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to take more calls on this next, Ellie. 767 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to pry intowards late night sex. 768 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, that was that was a weird thing to ask, Ellie. 769 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 8: I love your love your opinion though, Elli, and that 770 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 8: would come into it when when's that discussion happening? 771 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, That's what I'm saying. They have 772 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: to think about that before they wake you up, Like, 773 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: you know, is this just going to be a transactional 774 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: sort of a thing, or you know, I've got something 775 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: a bit fun organized. 776 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 8: So what sort of hanky panky would you be open 777 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 8: to waking up for I'm sorry, I'm coming back on you. 778 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: I've asked the question I have one hundred percent. I'm 779 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: saying is like, am I going to have to put 780 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: some effort in here? That's probably my first thought. Well, like, 781 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: if I'm asleep, if I was slept, that's not outrageous, 782 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: that's not outrageous. 783 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 8: I'm putting it down. 784 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: You've kind of hinted at what mine was before, because 785 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: you were saying before, and we were talking about this 786 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: in a parental content. If a child wakes up, if 787 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: one of you goes and gets that child and like 788 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: tends to them, then great, it's good that the other 789 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: person can sleep because you get the out of benefit 790 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: of them being more arrested the next day. Yes, but 791 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,479 Speaker 1: what if that child's woken up three or four times 792 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: in a row? 793 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 7: Oh? 794 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: That what interest? At what point? At what number do 795 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: you get to tap out and go, hey, you know what, 796 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: I've been up three times now? Oh that's a really good, quick, 797 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: good one. I'll let you think about it. Jackie has 798 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: called on thirty one or six five? Gooday Jackie? Hi, 799 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: he is there a good enough reason to wake up 800 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: someone who's sleeping outside of an emergency. 801 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 13: When you're pregnant one hundred percent. I'm twenty seven weeks pregnant. 802 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 13: I pretend to moan and cry when he's asleep, just 803 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 13: to get him up for at least five to ten minutes, 804 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 13: just to cuddle me for a bit. 805 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 8: Oh puddle, Oh you just wanted to cuddle. 806 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: That is a cuddle. I'm sorry. That does not cut 807 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: the mustard for mine. If I got woken up for 808 00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: a cuddle. 809 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 8: She's carrying the for nine months, doing it for them. 810 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 8: I think she deserves a cuddle. Well, she was struggling 811 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 8: to sleep, and. 812 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: Also she's struggling to sleep, or was you just want 813 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: to cuddle? 814 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 8: I think from what I understood from that call, Jackie, 815 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 8: is your alls. You're struggling to sleep because you're in pain. 816 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 8: I think when you know they're carrying the baby for 817 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 8: the two of you, you should wake up. 818 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 9: I don't think, so get your cuddles in the day. 819 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 8: But she's struggling to sleep. 820 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: Cou yourself in your dream. Lisa's called. I mean seriously, 821 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: like I'm asleep, don't you remember? I just people like 822 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 1: it just it has to be a premium. 823 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 8: The would have struggled to sleep when she was pregnant, right. 824 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, read a book. Well, she's got her kindle there, 825 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: she's got a great pregnancy pillow which we imported from Norway. 826 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: I asleep, I'm asleep, Like, come on, let's go to 827 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: Finn to be a premium on it. You know, it 828 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: was a very supportive partner when when when Zim was pregnant. 829 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: But like, if I'm asleep, you're you're what's your one? 830 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 2: No go? 831 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeh, everyone's got their, everyone's got their. Let's go 832 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 8: to Lisa here, Lisa, it was the only one to 833 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 8: move your mind. 834 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go to Let's go to find get 835 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: a Finn. Finn, how are you fellas super well? Mate? 836 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: Is there a good enough reason to wake on? What 837 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 1: is a good enough reason to wake up a sleeping 838 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: person outside of an ass? 839 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 10: I think genuinely anything I'm on definitely on the other 840 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 10: side of the coin to Leisa, I'm a real excitable 841 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 10: kind of person and if something exciting happens, then everyone's 842 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 10: going to know about it. Doesn't matter what time of day. 843 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 8: What's something exciting, Finn that you have believed is worth 844 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 8: waking up your partner for that? 845 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 10: What happened to me so with an ex partner I 846 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 10: was living with. I once started myself awake, and then 847 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 10: it was obviously so hilarious that we all needed to 848 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 10: share in that moment. 849 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 8: Couldn't agree more. 850 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: Solved it, honestly, But if if you woke me up 851 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: to tell me that you'd working yourself up with a fart, 852 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: that would. 853 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 4: Be the end. 854 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 10: That would well, yeah, I'm single now, so there you go.