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Speaker 1: There is so much happening, and yesterday, as we know,

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Speaker 1: the line right now is the Chief Minister Attasha Files.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, Good morning listener.

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Speaker 1: Now Chief Minister Bonza have announced that they're going to

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Speaker 1: be entering the airline market in the Northern Territory. Have

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Speaker 3: So super exciting news for territorians, Katie. The announcement yesterday

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Speaker 3: was a direct result of the recently launched Territory Aviation

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Speaker 3: Attraction Scheme. So we've spoken about this previously. This scheme

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Speaker 3: was designed to help get the cost down per ticket

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Speaker 3: by people passengers coming into the territory. We partnered with

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Speaker 3: the Airport Development Group to achieve this. So yes, we

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Speaker 3: have worked with them to get them into the territory

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Speaker 3: so that Territorians can have access to cheaf affairs and

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Speaker 3: hopefully also more broadly drive that cost of air trouble

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Speaker 2: So what financial cost, So.

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Speaker 3: Katie, that scheme is a ten million dollar scheme from

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Speaker 3: US in ten million dollars from the Airport Development Group

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Speaker 3: the actual details of commercial and confidence. But to get

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Speaker 3: benefit and can continue. We chose this scheme over others

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Speaker 1: Is there any commitment or expectation in terms of how

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Speaker 1: long they have to operate in the Northern Territory when

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Speaker 1: you take into account that scheme.

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, the scheme we put in ten million dollars,

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Speaker 3: we're not saying into the future. We wouldn't put more

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Speaker 1: It doesn't want But I guess what I'm asking It

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Speaker 1: what people are concerned about is that it might just

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Speaker 3: Okay, we're working as hard as we can, so it

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Speaker 3: isn't we anticipate it for at least three years and

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Speaker 1: All right, Chief Minister, I want to move along because

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Speaker 1: crime has once again dominated discussion this week. Police have

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Speaker 1: Now I know that the government's made a number of

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Speaker 3: Katie, a tragedy on the weekend in our thoughts with

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Speaker 3: that individual's family and friends. Police are investigating the matter

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Speaker 1: What about the feedback from the public saying that they've

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Speaker 3: Katie, I've had enough. I'm frustrated, and that's why you've

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what the community is saying to you. They

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Speaker 3: something has to change drastically. People are too scared to.

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Speaker 2: Walk the street, to walk to their cars.

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Speaker 5: I do plead to the leaders because nothing has to

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Speaker 5: change now. They had to change last year when I'm

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Speaker 6: What we need we need leadership, and we need the

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Speaker 6: leaders to come from the government. Okay, let's cut the

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, what do you say to those territories, one

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Speaker 3: Katie, we hear the concerns from the community, the frustration.

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Speaker 6: We feel it.

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Speaker 3: We're a part of our communities and what I can

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Speaker 2: The thing is, though, it's not stopping the behavior.

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Speaker 1: So even yesterday, Channel nine was reporting that an eighteen

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Speaker 3: And Katie, that's why we've undertaken the bail and weapons

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Speaker 1: Since then, and since then, these incidents have continued to occur.

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Speaker 1: So that's what the community's saying that what you're doing

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, we've provided police with stop and search powers

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Speaker 1: So can you just confirm that right now, is the

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Speaker 1: or do people just have to languish as they are?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not, Katie. As I just said, we are a

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Speaker 2: We know a lot. Is your government capable of fixing.

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Speaker 3: This, absolutely, Katie, we know the factors that drives this.

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Speaker 3: We have that evidence based approach, and we are investing

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Speaker 3: it's about resourcing those frontline services, not just our hard

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be really blunt though. You know some

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Speaker 1: of what you've just said then, you've been saying to

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, and that's why we continue to work in

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Speaker 3: We understand the urgency that the community wants in a response,

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Speaker 3: and that's what we're delivering.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know, look, we are just getting in undated

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Speaker 1: have to move along because I know you're very pressed

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Speaker 1: for time. People were divided last week on your ninety

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you disclose that from the start?

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, that cost I acknowledge that it's a huge

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Speaker 1: It's astronomical one hundred and fifty grand in the end.

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Speaker 3: But Katie, I have to make a decision about whether

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Speaker 3: how can I make sure that territory businesses that territory

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Speaker 3: and get the jobs from that investment.

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Speaker 1: So you feel as though that one hundred do you

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Speaker 1: feel as though that money has absolutely been well spent.

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Speaker 3: The months ahead will see the scope of the investment

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Speaker 3: from the troop, Katie, there was key conversations in the

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Speaker 3: and it's a decision I had to make, but it

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Speaker 1: Chief Finister, are you going to commit to publishing those

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Speaker 1: for public servants that travel overseas on these delegations in future?

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, those trips are booked separately, so happy to

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Speaker 2: Servants as well before you go.

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Speaker 3: In terms of yes, and in terms of the costs

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Speaker 1: So from this point on, you're going to commit to

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Speaker 1: publishing those travel costs before minister's travel, I e. In

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Speaker 3: So Katie, that was the policy, and I apologize that

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Speaker 2: I asked for that to happen very quickly.

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Speaker 1: A question from our listeners wondering, is Chancey Paig on

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Speaker 1: personal leave at the moment or work travel?

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Speaker 3: No? Chance, he has taken so personal leave. So most

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Speaker 3: of us take our leave at Christmas because we've got

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Speaker 3: children and school holidays. But considering Central Australia, Chance he

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Speaker 3: asked if he could stay in Central Australia through that

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Speaker 3: Christmas New Year period but take some leave now, and

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Speaker 3: as Chief Minister I accepted that.

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Speaker 1: Is Kate Warden also on leave as well as Brent Potter.

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Speaker 3: No, so Kate Warden is at work. Brent Potter took

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Speaker 3: some time off last week to go and participate in

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Speaker 3: the Kokota fundraising trek, which he was very open about.

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Speaker 3: He's been working towards that fundraising for a defense veterans

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Speaker 3: organization and he's publicly shared that all right now.

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Speaker 1: The reason I ask is because we have had a

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Speaker 1: few people get in contact with us saying how many

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Speaker 1: of the caucus are on leave currently?

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Speaker 3: So Katie, we make decisions, and I just articulated to

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Speaker 3: you for Chancey, for example, on what's best for the

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Speaker 3: electorate the ministerial portfolios. But I'll back my team just

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Speaker 3: as i'd back every member of the Parliament that from

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Speaker 3: time to time people need a break, they need to refresh.

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Speaker 3: My team only take within four weeks over the year,

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Speaker 3: unless there's medical reasons that they may need to take

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Speaker 3: more leave than that. So we've been very open and

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Speaker 3: transparent about our leave. I always have been as Chief Minister.

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Speaker 3: School holidays coming up, I'll be taking a couple of

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Speaker 3: days to head camping with the family, and I will

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Speaker 3: also back independent Opposition members when they say they need

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Speaker 3: to take a break and spend some time with their family.

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Speaker 2: Chief Minister will leave it there. I know you only

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Speaker 2: had ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you speaking to us this morning, and no

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Speaker 1: doubt we'll speak to you again soon.

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Speaker 3: Speak soon, Take care, Thank you,