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Speaker 1: On today's show, Jordan Simmy continues to party with French

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Speaker 1: models while Sammy Robinson attends an event solo. Did Maddie

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Speaker 1: Garrick just soft launch a new relationship just weeks after.

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Speaker 2: Her breakup with Sophie Kasha.

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Speaker 1: Mummy blogger, Olivia White's misleading giveaway and love Islander, Maura

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Speaker 1: Higgins's health scare. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your

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Speaker 1: dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news twice

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Speaker 1: a week. I'm Sophie Tolbert, and it may seems strange

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Speaker 1: that we are coming to you from a Wednesday. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people thought we may be recovering from your

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Speaker 1: Hen's party. Kate, we are a day late putting this

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Speaker 1: episode out. Yeah, that's funny that people were saying that

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Speaker 1: because we did not have a drop of alcohol to drink.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like it was a boring weekend, But it

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Speaker 1: was a very wholesome Hens weekend. We had our mum

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Speaker 1: staying with us and she actually ended up being super

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Speaker 1: spreader of und and giving everyone COVID. Now, I'm just

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Speaker 1: joking because it's not mum's fault. We don't know where

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Speaker 1: it came from, but she was just patient zero of

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Speaker 1: the Hen's party. Fortunately this all happened on the way home,

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Speaker 1: so we managed to have a really good weekend. And

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Speaker 1: you'll notice that Amy is missing, and that's because Amy

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Speaker 1: shared a bed with Mum during the hand's weekend and

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Speaker 1: she's got COVID.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, you say it's a super spreader event.

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Speaker 2: There's so far three people with COVID.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit scared. My voice is a bit raspy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the vide is coming for me.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about the nice things because I still

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm on a high from the weekend. It

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Speaker 1: was so much fun. Kate, what were your favorite bits

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Speaker 1: about it? It's really hard to say, because the whole

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Speaker 1: weekend was so good. Obviously the Barbie themed party, You

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Speaker 1: and Amy and my other bridesmaids, Pip and Owen outdid yourselves.

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Speaker 2: It was on point.

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Speaker 1: Someone said it like a Pinterest board, and so if

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Speaker 1: I feel like your head blew up, it really did.

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Speaker 1: I mean we had a joke that Sophie just kept

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Speaker 1: telling me everything that was happening and sending me photos.

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Speaker 2: But there definitely were some great surprises. I think the

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Speaker 2: tattoos were a good surprise.

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Speaker 1: So on Essie, I found that you can get temporary

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Speaker 1: tattoos and basically you can have the groom's face printed

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Speaker 2: So we had Reese's face.

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Speaker 1: Then we had Missus Turner printed because we always pay

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Speaker 1: Then we had come on Barbie, Let's go party, and

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Speaker 1: also Kate's hens. I actually haven't used all the tattoos yet,

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Speaker 1: though I'm still looking at my Kate's hens. When I

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Speaker 1: did rip b Reese's face off my arm and some

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Speaker 1: of my faked hand came up, So yeah, that was amazing.

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Speaker 1: I also love the airbnb that we stayed out in Habra,

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Speaker 1: which is just between Middleton and Port Elliott, and we

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Speaker 1: We also painted pottery penises. I think one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest surprises was on the Saturday, I went out with

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Speaker 1: dinner and we came back and I am just astounded

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Speaker 1: by Mum's acting skills. So she was pacing out the front,

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Speaker 1: I'm just so disgusted in Dale and Reese and we're like,

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Speaker 1: So Amy passed me a imask and I was like,

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Speaker 1: And Pony was blaring from the room and they sat

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Speaker 1: We've been working on that since last week because we've

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Speaker 1: I think another highlight we're seeing the pinard of Penis

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Speaker 1: I did love the Barbie boxes. I'm so cut because

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Speaker 1: And one thing that I struggled with was coming up

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Speaker 1: Breaker for people who didn't know each other in a

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Speaker 1: It seems to be a very popular one because I

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Speaker 1: a little delivery, So I actually got these from selling

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Speaker 1: my wardrobe. Mummy blogger Olivia White has been accused of

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Speaker 1: misleading her followers in a branded giveaway competition. The thirty

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Speaker 1: three year old allegedly award the prize to her Pilarate's

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Speaker 1: refresher on who Olivia White is. Yeah, well, as you said, Kate,

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Speaker 1: she was accused of misleading followers after releasing champagne flutes

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Speaker 1: She wrote on Instagram, we are loving our Watsi play

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Speaker 1: it's pretty typical of most tag and win competitions. So

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Speaker 1: with this competition, you could enter as many times as

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Speaker 1: and influencers use random number or digital generators to select

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Speaker 1: Like it seems like some of these have been cherry picked,

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Speaker 3: And hopefully get the dub and.

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Speaker 2: Get my extral friend's attention. Because I miss you, I

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Speaker 2: still love you.

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Speaker 1: It is getting more and more difficult to believe Jordan

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Speaker 1: Simmy is in a relationship with Sammy Robinson. The podcaster

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Speaker 1: has been spotted continuing to party with French models, despite

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Speaker 1: claiming they're just friends, Kate, what is the latest on this?

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Speaker 1: The latest, I think we need to give a little

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Speaker 1: will know that Jordan and Sammy's relationship has always been

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Speaker 1: a little bit rocky. So the pair broke up earlier

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Speaker 1: because that's one of the reasons Maura felt like it

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Speaker 1: she feels like there isn't much awareness around it and

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Speaker 1: a lot of young girls don't know the dangers of

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Speaker 1: keeping tampons in them for extended periods of time because

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Speaker 1: according to Health direct Australia, tampons should be changed every

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Speaker 1: four to eight hours, so you can only start to

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Speaker 1: imagine how ill Maa was to have one inside her

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Speaker 1: for three months. And as we said, this dire consequences

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Speaker 1: for someone surprised. You shouldn't die, because there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that have died from this illness. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because for those who don't know, toxic shock syndrome is

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Speaker 1: a rare but life threatening condition and it is caused

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Speaker 1: by bacteria getting into the body and releasing harmful toxins.

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Speaker 1: And it is often associated with tampon use in young women,

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Speaker 1: but it can affect anyone of any age, and as

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Speaker 1: you said, Kate, scarily, it can be fatal if it's

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Speaker 1: not treated very promptly. So thank goodness Mara got the

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Speaker 1: just really thankful that Maura has brought up this topic because,

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Speaker 1: as I said, it's something that you kind of forget about.

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Speaker 1: And she spoke about how a lot of girls go

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Speaker 1: out on nights out and get drunk and would easily

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Speaker 1: forget that they had a tampon on. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: she hasn't gone into exactly how her circumstance happened, to

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Speaker 1: which you've probably forgotten. It's been three months, you know,

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Speaker 1: who would know, yeah, it is pretty scary. I think

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Speaker 1: it's something that's easy enough to do, and I do

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Speaker 1: hope her speaking.

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Speaker 2: Out about it does generate more awareness.

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Speaker 1: One good thing is I feel like teenagers seem a

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Speaker 1: little bit more open about periods than we were when

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Speaker 1: we were younger, because I remember how embarrassing it used

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Speaker 1: to be like having to go to the bathroom. I

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Speaker 1: remember putting like pads up my sleeve and trying to

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Speaker 1: open them so quietly so if another girl was in

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Speaker 1: the school bathrooms, they wouldn't know what I was doing,

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Speaker 1: even though everyone had their period and we're probably doing

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Yeah. Morea actually said that she used

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Speaker 1: to hide her tampons up her sleeve as well.

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Speaker 2: Everyone dated other day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was just so much shame around it. I

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Speaker 1: actually it was more so not the opening of the packets.

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Speaker 1: It was the tearing off of the pad that I hated. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: anything that was making a noise. Well, I think that

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Speaker 1: is all we have time for today. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us for another episode of Outspoken Now.

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