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Speaker 1: Now we know that thousands of workers at a major

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Speaker 1: parcel delivery service who are worried for their job security

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Speaker 1: have walked off the job across the country for the

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Speaker 1: second time this month. We're not one hundred percent sure

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Speaker 1: how heavily it could impact us here in the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 1: But to tell us more about the situation, Transport Workers

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Speaker 1: Union Branch Secretary Ian Smith, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. How are you going?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not too bad?

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Speaker 2: Ian?

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Speaker 1: Have got Have we got workers from Star Trek here

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Speaker 1: in the territory striking today?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think there are some, but we don't have

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Speaker 2: large numbers up in the Northern Territory. There is a

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Speaker 2: core at work out of ISAM that may be taking

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Speaker 2: ashen in the summer at the airport, I think. But

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Speaker 2: overall it's a national campaign and it's around job security.

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Speaker 2: These workers across the country are seeing this company consistently

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Speaker 2: cutting their overtime, outsourcing their work to lower paid workers

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Speaker 2: and sham contractors. In particular. You know in Adelaide, for example,

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Speaker 2: our members are sick and tide of seeing they leave

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Speaker 2: the depot and in the budgets come and there a

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Speaker 2: lot of the times it's a contractor that are very

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Speaker 2: that's playing very dubious rates. The employees are generally scared

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Speaker 2: to even say anything. The company is saying that they're

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Speaker 2: paying the contract to the correct rate, and we don't.

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Speaker 2: We're not sure that that's correct. What the workers are

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Speaker 2: saying they want some props, some decent ordering, and the

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Speaker 2: ability to put some caps on the amount of labor

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Speaker 2: outside high that's in the workplaces, so that they can

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Speaker 2: guarantee their job security and guarantee a decent pythm for

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Speaker 2: their families, and.

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Speaker 3: So ian there is.

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Speaker 1: You know, there is a small number of Star Trek

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Speaker 1: workers here in the Northern Territory which are obviously going

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Speaker 1: to be striking.

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Speaker 3: How longs it go for the strike.

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Speaker 2: It's the twenty four hour strike. It it'll be finished

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Speaker 2: at midnight tonight. Look, it'll have some impact, but as

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Speaker 2: is always the norm throughout these industrial campaigns, we continue

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Speaker 2: to move urgent medical supplies and urgent supplies that will

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Speaker 2: have some impact, and we haven't put any boundaries on that,

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Speaker 2: and so that's kept moving. Look, it'll take the work

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Speaker 2: lifts some time to catch up, but we don't do

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Speaker 2: this lightly. Star Trek are refusing to come back to

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Speaker 2: the table to sit down and negotiate this out. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we've made some great improvements, but this is an enterprise agreement,

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Speaker 2: is a negotiation. Stars Track should not stop negotiating through

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Speaker 2: literature and sending letters. They need to sit down with

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Speaker 2: the committee and negotiate an outcome.

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Speaker 1: And so want to do and so the main concern

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Speaker 1: here is that that you don't want to see those

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Speaker 1: Star Trek workers well contracted out and cheaper labor.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, this is Australia. We've got some standards

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Speaker 2: that we need to set. You know, we've had the

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Speaker 2: inservice coming into the Stralia Uber and Amazon Flex that

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Speaker 2: have disgraceful conditions. You're hired by app and you're fired

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Speaker 2: by an app.

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Speaker 4: It's not good enough.

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Speaker 2: It's flave labor. It takes us back to the eighteenth

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Speaker 2: century conditions of work. That's not Australia. That needs to

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Speaker 2: stop them. You know, there's an easy way for that

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Speaker 2: to be fixed too. Governments can legislate, but these minimum

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Speaker 2: standards for all workers and that should be occurring and

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Speaker 2: that fixes the issue.

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Speaker 1: Have we got any concerns here in the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: that any of those staff could lose their jobs.

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Speaker 2: No, not at this stage, but over the time if

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Speaker 2: the way they're outsizing the work. Look, you've only got

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Speaker 2: to look at Australia Posts itself. This is a subsidiary

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Speaker 2: Australia Post. We've seen that, you know the post is

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Speaker 2: we've gone to a three day delivery service to posts

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Speaker 2: have an impact on their numbers of the shore. We've

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Speaker 2: seen the advent of people bidding for their work and

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Speaker 2: all the white bands and everything out there where people

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Speaker 2: will bid the hand of the work and they'll get

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Speaker 2: it out. And then we've seen the extortion of the

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Speaker 2: people that are working under those contracts and end up

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Speaker 2: being shamed contacts.

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Speaker 4: In a lot of places, or they've made a pass

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Speaker 4: delivery rate. And that's all well and good if you've

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Speaker 4: got a real condensed area and you've got high industrial sites.

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Speaker 4: But if you're in general.

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Speaker 2: Runs and everything across the place. Now people get spread

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Speaker 2: out and end up with business to consume the deliveries.

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Speaker 2: The match just slows youre down and it makes it

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Speaker 2: very hard. And that's the Amazon flex model. Well, ten

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Speaker 2: dollars four hours work in the back of a car, untrained,

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Speaker 2: uneducated people in that industry it's very hard for to

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Speaker 2: make things right well.

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Speaker 3: And we always appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having a chat with us today and

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Speaker 1: keep us, keep in contact with us and let us

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Speaker 1: know how it.

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Speaker 3: Goes with those Star Trek works. Because thanks Dye, thank you,

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Speaker 3: thank you. No worry