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Speaker 1: Joining me in the studio right now is the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory Police Commissioner Michael Murphy.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you. Good morning Katie now, Commissioner.

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Speaker 1: Before I get into the issues of the day, and

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Speaker 1: there is a lot to get through, I do want

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Speaker 1: to just ask you. I've literally just learned that Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory Police are calling for information after an armed burglary

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Speaker 1: in Darwin overnight. At about twelve forty five this morning,

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Speaker 1: police received reports at two males and a female unlawfully

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Speaker 1: entered a residence on dash would place, armed with a gun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great, Katie. So there was three people and

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Speaker 3: at a unit there was a fifty seven and a

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Speaker 3: sixty one year old occupant. They've threatened them with a

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Speaker 3: shotgun and left the premises. We don't have the gun yet,

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Speaker 3: we don't know who the three people are. We've got

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Speaker 3: detectives currently working on it incredibly hard. We have deemed

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Speaker 3: it's a low public safety risk and we suspect that's targeting.

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Speaker 1: But I mean in the pressure release it says at

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Speaker 1: this stage it's not believed the offenders were known to

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Speaker 1: the victim.

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Speaker 3: So I think they're working through that to validate that

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Speaker 3: now we've got some detectives working on that. We're hoping

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Speaker 3: for a fairly quick and swift clear up.

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Speaker 1: So hang on, so have still I mean, are we

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Speaker 1: in a situation right now where we have got two

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Speaker 3: That's correct? Ya?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 1: I mean that sounds quite concerning, I think to anybody

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Speaker 3: I've spoken to the Assistant Commissioner of Crime this morning

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Speaker 3: who spoken directly with the detectives. They've obviously previd information

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Speaker 3: that I'm not, but I've asked specifically what is the

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Speaker 3: risk to public safety and advise that it is low.

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Speaker 3: It's deemed low. They will work very quickly to identify

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Speaker 3: who these people are. We've got some technology in the

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Speaker 3: we do with all the other crime times. But this

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Speaker 3: is being treated very seriously.

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Speaker 2: Well, Commissioner. It does sound like it's bloody serious.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've got somebody who's on the loose, So

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Speaker 1: we've got three people on the loose with a firearm.

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Speaker 1: To me, that sounds incredibly frightening water assurances can you

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Speaker 1: give the public this morning that they're not at risk?

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm relying upon the information coming from the detectives,

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Speaker 3: and I've been very specific and my questioning to the

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Speaker 3: the public are not at risk, and we'll identify who

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Speaker 3: recover the firearm. But there's no need to be alarmed.

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Speaker 3: We've got detectives working on this and we're resolve it

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's going to be people listening this morning thinking

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Speaker 1: why are we just learning about this now when it

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Speaker 3: I guess it's because we want to get the correct

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Speaker 3: information out to the public as well. It is pretty

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Speaker 3: swift to get it out this morning, but the detectives

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Speaker 1: All right, Commissioner, I'm going to move along because there

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Speaker 1: is so much for us to cover off on this morning,

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Speaker 1: us know if there's any updated information. But look news

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Speaker 1: breaking this morning that the Anti Independent reporting that the

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Speaker 1: Police Minister Brent Potter has shared Facebook posts which have

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Speaker 1: now been deleted, in which he's reportedly quoted Nazis Vladimir

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Speaker 1: Putin well in some instances many would deem the post racist.

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Speaker 1: According to the report, the extensive series of posts included

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Speaker 1: far right sentiment between twenty thirteen and twenty nineteen, which

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Speaker 1: I've not seen all the posts. I've seen some of them,

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Speaker 1: Police Force Commissioner. First off, have you seen those posts

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Speaker 1: by the Police minister.

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Speaker 3: No, I haven't. I'm aware of the article, but it's

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Speaker 2: I do want to ask so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, on Monday, the Chief Minister, Evil Laula said,

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Speaker 1: I'm concerned about it does worry me about racism. We've

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Speaker 1: Are you concerned that we may have people entering the

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Speaker 3: I think that's been to a vetting process as well.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm going back to your other point. I

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Speaker 3: the advent of social media and global events where people

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Speaker 3: and that's actually a national discussion even in law enforcement

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Speaker 1: I mean, there is going to be people thinking this

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Speaker 1: in the coronial and then after these posts that I

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Speaker 1: know they're historic but have been shared by the police minister,

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Speaker 1: that we may have a situation where you've got really

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Speaker 3: Look, I don't think so. I think we're impartial, we're professional.

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Speaker 3: We've got really good relationships with the community. Going back

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Speaker 3: a joint investigation with the IKAK and our Professional Standards Command.

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Speaker 3: That's underway at the moment. In saying that too, you know,

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Speaker 3: to think about what we're doing now to future brief

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Speaker 3: the police to make sure it's as safe, are culturally

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Speaker 2: Is it appropriate that the Northern Territory Police Force?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know the ika's also involved in that investigation,

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Speaker 1: but is it appropriate that you guys are investigating yourselves.

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Speaker 3: There's a level of independence when our Professional Standards Command

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Speaker 2: Where are things at with that investigation, it's underway.

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Speaker 3: I'm not privy to it. I'll leave that up to

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Speaker 3: the Commissioner for IKAK and Professional Standards Commander Police Commissioner.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be people listening this morning that read

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Speaker 1: it was reported that you are allegedly the person who

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Speaker 1: made racial slurs in a Chinese restaurant, which former Constable

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Speaker 1: Zachary Rohlf was referring to at that coronial inquest, Commissioner,

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Speaker 1: did you make racial slurs?

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Speaker 3: To be honest, I can't remember about making any comments racially.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a racist person.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is that a cop out?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. No, it's the truth. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I can't start making things up to say it happened

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Speaker 3: my memory. It's quarter of a century ago, you know,

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Speaker 3: and appropriately got referred to the IKAK. He's done an inquiry,

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Speaker 3: he's written a letter back to the coroner. He's shared

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Speaker 3: that with me on his assessment over the inquiries he's undertaken.

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Speaker 3: And the thing is that you want to understand it.

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Speaker 3: Where we're at now is my job and as the

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Speaker 3: So we need to get on with the job and

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Speaker 3: make improvements we've got. Our indigenous workforce is hurting after

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Speaker 3: the common shoef of last week. Historically, a snapshot. You

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Speaker 3: talked about systemic racism. I don't think we've got systemic

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Speaker 3: racism in the human form across the police force. We've

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Speaker 3: looking after the workforce, our people who work tirelessly, the

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Speaker 3: I think it's really really important to be aware that

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Speaker 3: as far as our policy settings and barriers for people

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Speaker 3: to make sure that I've set an aspirational target that

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Speaker 1: Police Commissioner, what action is going to be taken though,

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Speaker 1: if this investigation into offices allegedly making racist comments and

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Speaker 1: having that racist award within well what was claimed was

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Speaker 1: a racist award within the TRG is found to be accurate.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a matter for the Commissioner, Nayakak and Professional

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Speaker 3: Standards Command who will do the appropriate referrals based on

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Speaker 3: the collection of evidence in their assessment. That's probably too

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Speaker 3: I think we just need to be impartial, let an

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Speaker 2: Police Commissioner.

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Speaker 1: At the moment, you know, there's so many people that

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Speaker 1: right for the work that you guys do. Lo even

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Speaker 1: myself earlier in the week, you go this like there

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Speaker 1: is so much going on in the community that people

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Speaker 1: is a big gap that needs to be breached between

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Speaker 1: the community and our Northern Territory Police Force for us

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Speaker 1: to move forward.

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Speaker 2: How do you do that?

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Speaker 3: I think we need to be courageous, We need to

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Speaker 3: and we need to be inclusive. We have that. We

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Speaker 3: went through a really hard time since two thousand and nineteen,

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Speaker 3: We don't underestimate the amount of work we have to

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Speaker 3: we're looking at so many different aspects about diversification and

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Speaker 1: All right, Police Commissioner, I want to move along to

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Speaker 1: It doesn't give kids the right to run re mark

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Speaker 3: So it does it, It absolutely does not, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Like I honestly, you know, I had a kid that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look at it. It concerns me, and we're doing

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Speaker 3: So this cohort of three plus five, they get referred

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Speaker 2: Does education then get notified that they're not at school.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes they would be because we see these are

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Speaker 3: And I know, I know that Minster Monahan is really

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Speaker 3: The important thing to remember, as we are involved in

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's about target management too, and about

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Speaker 2: Commissioner, I know your pressed for time.

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Speaker 1: You've got to get to a press conference, but I've

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Speaker 2: Just on that youth crime stuff.

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Speaker 1: Last week, kids allegedly targeting police cars who are on bail.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, the behavior of these young people and the

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Speaker 2: Has there been situations where you have.

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Speaker 1: Police Commissioner, how's Alice Springs going from your perspective? I

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Speaker 3: We've still got youth that are on the street. The

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Speaker 3: we're still continuing to plan what that looks like and

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Speaker 3: recruitment of the transition of the palis to police constables.

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Speaker 3: So We've got thirty three of them commencing on the

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Speaker 1: Is it going to mean, though, that we don't have

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Speaker 3: There'll be a couple of palis remaining that can still

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Speaker 3: I think we've still got ten in our springs, but

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Speaker 1: So licensing inspectors are going to step in to that role.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's all we're working through at the moment.

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Speaker 2: So are you confident that'll work?

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Speaker 3: So it's about just putting that governance in place about

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Speaker 3: But the alcohol restrictions in our springs still assist this greatly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was going to be my final question this morning.

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Speaker 3: the hours training. It definitely offers us respite and controls

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Speaker 3: the crime narrative as well. Do we say issues with

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Speaker 3: secondary supply, Yes, and we've got to do a body

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Speaker 3: of work around that.

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Speaker 1: And we are when you talk about some of the

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Speaker 1: issues that we've got up here in the top end,

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Speaker 1: I mean you say domestic violence is the biggest concern

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Speaker 1: for Northern Territory police. I mean we see that every

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Speaker 1: single day. We talk about it all the time. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a case going through the courts at the moment

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Speaker 1: where a woman was allegedly stabbed to death and you know,

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Speaker 1: at the hands of her partner in a public location

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Speaker 1: on Freshwater Drive. I mean, this is the kind of

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Speaker 1: stuff that we report on so often. I mean, are

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Speaker 1: are our alcohol laws in the Northern Territory at the moment?

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Speaker 2: I mean, does there need to be further look into that?

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Speaker 2: Across the board?

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Speaker 3: I'm always looking at alcohol laws and what it means.

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Speaker 3: And it's a lawful product that's regulated. But does it

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Speaker 3: cause it's the harmonable for us? Absolutely? Then you hit

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Speaker 3: the nail on the head. Yes, domestic violence, intimate partner homicide,

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Speaker 3: public places, ol cooco tune is the main risk for us.

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Speaker 3: The work by the Territory Safety Coordination Center is integral

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Speaker 3: with the coordination of all patrolling aspects and the whole

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Speaker 3: of government to address rough sleeping, safety of people, returning

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Speaker 3: people to country and minimizing those associated harms and controlling

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Speaker 3: that risk.

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Speaker 1: Police Commissioner, you have got to get out of here.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time this morning. That's not me

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Speaker 1: saying you've got to get out of here. That's your

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Speaker 1: staff telling you you've got.

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Speaker 2: To wrap up.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your time today. Thank you Katie,

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Speaker 1: thank you you too.