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Speaker 1: Before we get into the episode, we want to issue

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Speaker 1: a trigger warning as we do discuss issues surrounding eating

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Speaker 1: disorders and suicide.

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Speaker 2: Episode three, the demise of Bardo.

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Speaker 1: The money making machine was in full force. Australia's first

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Speaker 1: manufactured girl group, Bardo was about to hit the top

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Speaker 1: of the charts. The women had quickly become the most

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Speaker 1: famous faces in the country, creating pandemonium at their shopping

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Speaker 1: center appearances.

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Speaker 3: Soon as phenomenal Investigator's five Thousand People in which assisted

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Speaker 3: beyond comprehension when you think they got so many months ago,

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Speaker 3: everybody was just doing what they're normally doing and today

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Speaker 3: you've got their pnemonium at West L'sarorada.

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Speaker 1: Whilst the money was pouring in for the execs, the

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Speaker 1: women themselves weren't making a cent of their success. We

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Speaker 1: are journalist Sophie Kate and Amy Torber, and this is outspoken.

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Speaker 1: In last week's show, we took a look back at

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Speaker 1: the biggest scandal to rock Bardo, which was of course

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Speaker 1: Shantell Barry's departure. It really was the perfect drama that

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Speaker 1: this show needed, so much so that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people actually thought that the TV producers came up with

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Speaker 1: the plot.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: When we left you, Bardo was set to release its

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Speaker 1: first single and the group had made history with their

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Speaker 1: film clip being the most expensive clip produced in Australia.

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Speaker 2: At the time.

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Speaker 1: It's still so iconic to this day though, I love

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Speaker 1: it now. As their profiles were growing bigger by the day,

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Speaker 1: the girl started coming under intense media scrutiny about their

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Speaker 1: appearance as well as their motivation for joining the band. Now.

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Speaker 1: As the show was airing, there was huge media debate

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Speaker 1: around the idea of being famous for being famous, and

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Speaker 1: this was because the girls had become household names overnight

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Speaker 1: for appearing on a reality show but not yet bringing

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Speaker 1: out any music. This was the first time this concept

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Speaker 1: of being famous for the sake of being famous in

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Speaker 1: Australia had really been discussed, because we need to remember

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Speaker 1: this was before even.

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Speaker 2: Big Brother came out.

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Speaker 1: This was a year before Big Brother and it really

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Speaker 1: was Australia's first reality tea show. It's ironic because the

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Speaker 1: girls in Bardo actually legitimately had a great talent of

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Speaker 1: singing and dancing, whereas you look at reality TV stars

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Speaker 1: now and they are really just famous for being dramatic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they just got personalities.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, there were many think pieces published at the time

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Speaker 1: which struggled with the thought of these nobodies being plucked

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Speaker 1: from obscurity and being made into household names, and some

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Speaker 1: experts weighed in saying that the women were making a

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Speaker 1: mockery of the whole idea of talent bringing its own reward.

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Speaker 1: The papers even interviewed professors to give their opinions. Now

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Speaker 1: on the show, we also saw a radio shock jock

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Speaker 1: and Sally. The hosting question was Mark Hines, a radio

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Speaker 1: announcer of a two WS. Let's throw to a clip

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Speaker 1: of him talking to the girls.

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Speaker 5: Let mean, first of all, say, I suppose what disgusts

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Speaker 5: me the most about the television show is that it

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Speaker 5: is a thinly guised money making attempt. I mean, that's

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Speaker 5: basically the TV show is making the money out of

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Speaker 5: the ratings. The record company is making the money out

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Speaker 5: of the record sales. How can we seriously take the

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Speaker 5: pop stars or bother I should say, as a credible

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Speaker 5: musical act when we know that it's so geared towards

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Speaker 5: making cash well of cash.

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Speaker 6: At the end of the day, don't you work hard

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Speaker 3: Just to say, as anyone.

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Speaker 5: Else, Absolutely, But the difference is that I want to

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Speaker 5: create something that is good for the world. The cash

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Speaker 5: doesn't come before that. I would be doing this in

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Speaker 5: a room by myself if I could. The thing that

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Speaker 5: I find with the whole pop stars theme and I

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Speaker 5: have been engaged it is that the cash comes first.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's right on a lot of those points

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Speaker 1: because he continued to tell the women that they loved

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Speaker 1: must have been so frustrating for them not to crumble

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Speaker 1: and say, we're actually taking fuck all money off this,

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Speaker 1: and we're doing it because we love the music and

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Speaker 1: we want to have a career in this industry. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was a huge money making exercise. It's rumored that

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Speaker 1: Bardo's gross profit from their first year through ad sales

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Speaker 1: to the TV show record sales, merch gigs and appearance

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Speaker 1: all while the band was just receiving thirty five dollars

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Speaker 1: each a day. It really is unbelievable now. In the

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Speaker 1: lead up to Bardo's album release, the girls were on

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Speaker 1: a media blitz and they ended up traveling around the

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Speaker 1: the TV show captured a number of these interviews, and

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Speaker 1: I found them really difficult to watch twenty years on.

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Speaker 1: I just couldn't get over how foul and sexist some

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Speaker 1: well respected journalists in the industry that we all hold

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Speaker 1: up now. So the girls appeared on Triple M's Breakfast

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Speaker 1: Show with Andrew Denton and Amanda Keller. Let's throw to

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Speaker 1: what they said.

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Speaker 7: There are hurdles you're gonna have to cross in your career.

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Speaker 7: We've got questions for you which going to help us

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Speaker 7: all determine if you're going to make it in this industry.

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Speaker 2: You just don't get.

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Speaker 8: Any pressure none at all. It's PMT week in the

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Speaker 8: Pop Stars Home. Is it more like a a tampon commercial?

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Speaker 8: Or you cheeks dancing around a fire hydrant, laughing, be

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Speaker 8: a bear pit lined with chocolate wrappers, chocolate, say chocolately,

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Speaker 8: say you were.

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Speaker 4: Five girls in one house.

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Speaker 7: That's got to be searing honesty though, four marks for that.

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Speaker 7: Pop stars have a photo opportunity with Prince Charles Sally,

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Speaker 7: Which part of his body do you grope for the cameras? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Goly good? I have to say, you go over the

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Speaker 1: royal jewels?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: No, not to be interested, to be.

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Speaker 1: Gee, this is surprising coming from Amanda Keller and Andrew Denton.

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Speaker 1: I would not have expected that from there. Maybe from

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Speaker 1: I feel always uncomfortable bringing up comments that people said

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Speaker 1: I was surprised to hear it coming from them. I

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Speaker 1: Charles is just wild. I mean It's like they're saying

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Another radio host commented on the girl's skinny frames and

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Speaker 2: I just think we would never ask the same question

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Speaker 2: if this was a.

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Speaker 4: Group of men.

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Speaker 1: I agree that they wouldn't ask men this, but I

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Speaker 1: still feel like this question would be asked today. For example,

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Speaker 1: on The Bachelor, there'd still be discussions over is there

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Speaker 1: bitchiness in the house, because let's be honest, people still

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Speaker 1: want to know. But the difference with The Bachelor is

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Speaker 1: that those women are competing against each other for love,

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Speaker 2: But it's a reality show as well.

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Speaker 1: They focus on their life away from music, so that's

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Speaker 1: Don't think they ever really showed any beef between the girls.

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Speaker 1: I mean really, only the Chantell Barry thing that had

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Speaker 1: an interview with Amanda Blair and she says this, we've

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Speaker 1: heard them sing, We've heard their name Bardo, which of

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Speaker 4: Look so much like Bridget together. You might be about

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Speaker 2: Are you enjoying being a pop star?

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Speaker 1: Wow, I mean, this really speaks to the time that

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Speaker 1: just so weird to have this fixation on their appearance.

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Speaker 1: Wonder if those questions were developed by a male radio

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Speaker 1: the media blitz really worked because Bardo's single Poison shot

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Speaker 1: was kind of like beatle Mania. Well, it was unprecedented

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Speaker 2: They had a manager.

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Speaker 1: From Westfield who told the cameras that they've made a

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Speaker 1: commitment that everyone who purchased as a CD will have

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to meet the girls and get their CD signed. Now,

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Speaker 1: because they weren't expecting crowds to be this big and

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Speaker 1: Bardo could only stay to sign two thousand Copiesje's two

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Speaker 2: Up to it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm surprised that they weren't forced to shut this

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Speaker 3: Break here and there.

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Speaker 6: But no, as usual, we're expected to scoff down sushi

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Speaker 5: For the show.

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Speaker 6: It's only fair that I blow off my steam. Everyone

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Speaker 1: I'm really surprised that Channel seven would choose to air this,

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Speaker 1: Ended, the media scrutiny intensified further. Bardo were the new

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Speaker 1: Belinda couldn't believe it because Sophie was so gorgeous and she.

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Speaker 1: But she said that her greatest fear was becoming fat

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Speaker 1: her research confirmed that Bolimia was the best friend of

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Speaker 1: Now Whilst in the UK, execs from Warner London called

445
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 1: a meeting and told the girls that they've had recommendations

446
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 1: that they should separate from their current management company, which

447
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 1: was Grant Thomas. Now.

448
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 2: Belinda said this.

449
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 1: Wasn't a huge shock, as they did like Grant Thomas,

450
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 1: but they hadn't really had a chance to build a

451
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 1: strong bond with him as they rarely saw him. Now

452
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,439
Speaker 1: Warner London suggested that they go with David Caprice. He

453
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 1: was experienced in the genre and at the time he

454
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,479
Speaker 1: managed Human Nature. Now Warner got the girls over the

455
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: line by suggesting that under David's management, their payments would

456
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 1: increase and they'd be able to restructure the current deal

457
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 1: with the TV execs. I feel like this would have

458
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 1: been so exciting for them because this would have been

459
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 1: the answer to all their issues because they did love

460
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 1: being in the band, they just didn't like not being

461
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 1: paid for it. Yeah, so this contract meant that they

462
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 1: would start earning what they should have been. So they

463
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: decided to take the chance with it, and they met

464
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 1: with David and he detailed the plans for the group,

465
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: including contract negotiations.

466
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 2: There was also.

467
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 1: Discussions that the girls would start being allowed to write

468
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 1: their own music, so they decided to make the move

469
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 1: and sign on with him. It does surprise me that

470
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: they even had a say on whether they should sign

471
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: with him because it seemed like everyone else was already

472
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 1: making their decisions for them. By this stage, Bardo was

473
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: a serious business, and they started recording their first song

474
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Speaker 1: asap for their second album.

475
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: That was a banger.

476
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was listening to this the other day.

477
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 1: It is still so good. It was actually written by

478
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 1: the person that wrote Britney Spears's Toxic. It is such

479
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 1: a good song now. Belinda said that the recording process

480
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: for this song felt very different from the first album.

481
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: The five girls were allocated different timeslots, so they weren't

482
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 1: actually in the studio together, and Belinda's timeslot was last,

483
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: and she said that she didn't have.

484
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 4: Any verses to sing.

485
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: She was just required to sing the oohs and aahs.

486
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: I am surprised they wouldn't share the verses around.

487
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this was clearly.

488
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: A strategic move from day David. He knew which band

489
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: member he wanted to make a star, and he wanted

490
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: her to have all of the limelight. And at the time,

491
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: Belinda said she had the distinct feeling that David had

492
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: instructed the producers on who would sing the majority of

493
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: the song, and she said that the session felt cold,

494
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: impersonal and rush. Under David's management, Bardo went very quickly

495
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: from five group members to four. The musical Hair was

496
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: coming to Australia, and in a meeting with David, Belinda

497
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 1: recalls that he told Katie that the people from Hair

498
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 1: had reached out to him and requested that she auditioned

499
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: for a role. So Katie allegedly replied, why would I

500
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: want to do that, We're just recording a new album.

501
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: A few weeks after, Belinda said that Katie called her

502
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: explaining that she ended up auditioning for the part and

503
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 1: she'd been offered the lead role. Katie explained that it

504
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,239
Speaker 1: was good money and wanted Belinda's advice on what to

505
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: do now. Belinda had been in the industry for some

506
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: time and said that musicals come and go, and that

507
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: she'd had some friends audition and then later the show

508
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: either lost funding or got canceled. But Katie was determined

509
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 1: to take on the role, and a big reason for

510
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: that was because she would finally be getting paid properly

511
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: for something, a bit of an incentive for her now.

512
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: David soon called a meeting and announced that Katie had

513
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 1: taken a full time job in the musical and had

514
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: made the decision to leave the band. Sadly, Belinda's hunch

515
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: was right. A month later, funding was canceled and hair

516
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: never happened, but Katie had signed her way out of Bardo. Now,

517
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 1: as preparation for Bardo's next album was underway, weird things

518
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: started happening. So Bardo had a shoot for Cleo Magazine

519
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: locked in and Belinda was scheduled to arrive first for

520
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: hero and makeup. But when she arrived, Sophie Monk was

521
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: already there with full hair and makeup, shooting something on

522
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: her own, and one of the Lawner music publicists stood

523
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: up and tried to block Belinda's view. So Belinda asked

524
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: Sophie what was going on, and the publicist replied, oh,

525
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: just a few extra shots and then ushered her into

526
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: heron makeup. Now, the plan was to shoot the cover

527
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: of Cleo as a foursome, but there seemed to be

528
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: a lot of fussing over Sophie's blue sequin dress and

529
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: the photographer seemed very serious and closed off about it.

530
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

531
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: Well, Belinda said that when Sophie was done, she walked

532
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: over to her bandmates, avoiding eye contact, and they asked

533
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: her what was all that about, and she continued to

534
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: look at the floor and say, oh, I don't know.

535
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: The photographer wanted to do some solo shots.

536
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 4: Now.

537
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 1: The following week, Belinda's agent called her and said that

538
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: she had secured a cover for bar dough. Belinda claims

539
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: that she told Sophie, who seemed excited, but then when

540
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: Sophie called her later that night, she had a different reaction.

541
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: Belinda says that Sophie told her, I think you should

542
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: do it on your own.

543
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

544
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: Well, the strangeness continued at their shoot for their song

545
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: I Need Somebody Another Banger. The girls had their fittings

546
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: the day prior, but when they arrived, an incredible dress

547
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: was hanging up high on its own. It was covered

548
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: in crystals with a plunging neckline, and next to it

549
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: were bedueled dollar sign earrings. Now, upstairs, the crew were

550
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: setting up for a photo in a golden bedroom and

551
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 1: it was the most striking room in the house, and

552
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: Belinda asked if they were shooting in there and they

553
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: said no, this is for Sophie's solo shoot. Belinda then asked, well,

554
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: she's doing her own solo shoot and they said, I

555
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: don't know yet, as though they hadn't given it much thought.

556
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: When Tiffany saw the dress, she allegedly demanded that she

557
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: wear it as she was singing the lead, and they

558
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: ended up giving it to her, but they made sure

559
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: Sophie wore the dollar earrings. It's funny because growing up,

560
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: Sophie Monk was always my favorite in the band. But

561
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: as it goes on, I really am liking Tiffany because

562
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: she seems to stand up for herself a lot, and

563
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: she sung a lot of the verses, like the majority

564
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: of the album was Tiffany. Yeah, she had an amazing

565
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: voice in such a great attitude.

566
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: Now, the weirdness just kept continuing.

567
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: So David secured them an unpaid gig at a new

568
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: music festival called Rumba, and big names like Craig David,

569
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: Emma Bunting, Shaggy, Tina Arena, and Nellie Fotato would be

570
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: appearing there alongside a crowd of forty thousand festival goers,

571
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: so it would be really great exposure for Bardo. Despite

572
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: the fact that they were having to do this festival

573
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: for free, they thought it was a good opportunity. Now,

574
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: whilst on the road for the show, Belinda says that

575
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 1: she saw David come in and rub Sophie's shoulders and

576
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: alleges that she gave him a flirtatious look back.

577
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: Very interesting.

578
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 4: Now.

579
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: In March two thousand and two, Bardo set off on

580
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: their second national tour alongside Human Nature because they were

581
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: of course being managed by David at the time as well,

582
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: so it seemed like the perfect collaboration for him. Yeah. Well,

583
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: with the show pop Stars being picked up in countries

584
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: across the world, and due to the high ratings, Bardou

585
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: was booked to perform at the International Film Academy Awards

586
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: in Malaysia. Now, they also set off to India, where

587
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: Sophie's energy had shifted, so Blinda said, rather than joking

588
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: together and playing pranks, it was like Sophie was pushing

589
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: her away.

590
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

591
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: She said that Sophie opted to spend most of her

592
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: time in her hotel room with David's Pa Yun, and

593
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: in a meeting at the airport, Blin alleges that Sophie

594
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: and David seemed really close. Apparently they were huddled together

595
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: and at one point she allegedly saw David put his

596
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: hand on Sophie's knee and she wondered what was going on. Now,

597
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: reading between the lines, it does feel like Blinda is

598
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: subtly trying to imply that something was going on between

599
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: Sophie and David. Yeah, it definitely feels that way now.

600
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: Bardo's second album, Play It Like That, was proving to.

601
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 4: Be a huge success.

602
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: In the first week, it sold over thirty five thousand copies,

603
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: and brown deals were coming in fast. Now, Belinda said,

604
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: despite this success, when she was on her way to

605
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: a shoot, she got a call from David who said

606
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: he had a great opportunity for her. He told her

607
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: that Grundy wanted to meet with her as there was

608
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: a hosting role available.

609
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 4: For Funniest home Videos.

610
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: I feel like that nugget of information really tells you

611
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: it was the early two thousand, said definitely.

612
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 4: Now.

613
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: Belinda said that she wasn't interested in the slightest and

614
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: thought to herself, why would she want a TV show

615
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: when she was in a platinum band, So she turned

616
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 1: the opportunity down. Now, she soon discovered what was really

617
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: going on, So she had a phone interview with a

618
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: radio station and David's PA suggested that she take it

619
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: in David's office upstairs and While on the phone, she

620
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: noticed a large pile of CDs on David's desk and

621
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: there was a sticky note on top. So she was

622
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: pretty curious and reached over to read it and it

623
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: said Sophie's demos. She then noticed a lot of magazines

624
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: on the desk and they were magazines that Bardo had

625
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: featured in with yellow sticky notes stuck on the pages. Now,

626
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: Belinda picked up the magazine and all of the images

627
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: were of Sophie, so she ran downstairs after her interview

628
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: and confronted David's pa Yun and Yull looked nervous but

629
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: didn't say anything. Shortly after, all of the band members

630
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: received a message telling them they had an urgent meeting

631
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: in the office the next day at nine am that

632
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: they must attend now. When they walked in, Sophie and

633
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: David were sitting on one side with three chairs for

634
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: the rest of the band members in front of them. Now,

635
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: Sophie sat with her head about looking at the floor,

636
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: and David told them we have some major news to announce.

637
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 4: He continued saying it's.

638
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: Time for Bardo to call it a day. Sophie no

639
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: longer wants to continue with the band Now. The bluntness continued.

640
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: He turned to Tiffany and said, I'm not sure what

641
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: your career will look like after Bardo, but maybe you

642
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: can get a band together and do an acoustic thing.

643
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: He then told Belinda that she could get into musical

644
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: theater and callously told Sally that it's her opportunity to

645
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: take a break from the industry. It was really clear

646
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: that he just wanted all the girls gone so Sophie

647
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: could launch her solo career.

648
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: It really shocks me.

649
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: This is the way that Bardo broke up, because normally,

650
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: if someone wants to go solo, then the original band

651
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: will stick together, at least for some time. Yeah. I

652
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: love it how they're like, oh, Sophie's decided that she

653
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: doesn't want to work with you anymore. It's like, well,

654
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: why doesn't she leave and the rest of them stay together.

655
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: It must have been such a bitter pill for the

656
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: girls to swallow, because they'd brought David in to improve

657
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: their band and he'd dumb me compla opposite and destroyed it.

658
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a real betrayal in what he did.

659
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: Now, he continued, telling the girls that he'd organize a

660
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: farewell tour for them, but Tiffany wasn't having.

661
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 4: Any of it.

662
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: She was furious, and she and Belinda asked what about

663
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: their South African tour that was planned and the second

664
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: Rumber festival that they were supposed to be appearing at,

665
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: and he just casually told them, well, you're not doing

666
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: those anymore. And that was so unfair because they were

667
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: actually going to get paid for this second Rumber performance

668
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: they didn't get anything for the first. Even though Tiffany

669
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: was really vocal in the meeting, all of the girls

670
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: ended up signing this statement that said that they had

671
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: mutually agreed to break up. So after the meeting, the

672
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: PR team sent the girls a copy of this official

673
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: statement from Bardo and all they needed was the girl's signatures,

674
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: and they must have been in a state of shock and.

675
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: Just went, I'm just going to sign it. Well, I

676
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: think it was more that.

677
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: They probably felt powerless and they felt bullied into doing so,

678
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: and this PR statement ended up saying that they mutually

679
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: decided to end the group because they needed a well

680
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: earned break. I don't really think that anyone was buying

681
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: it at the time, because they even went on to

682
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: perform a last show.

683
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: They were required to do this last.

684
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: Performance for the fans, which aired on Channel V, which

685
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: again is a blast from the past, and on stage,

686
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: Tiffany broke down so much so that she couldn't continue singing,

687
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: so fans had to join them on the stage, and

688
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: even fans were crying, and I remember thinking at a time,

689
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: it just made no sense that they were breaking up

690
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: because they were so successful. I'm surprised that another record

691
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: label didn't actually pick up the remaining girls from Bardo,

692
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: maybe get Katie back.

693
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: And do something.

694
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: The thing is, they didn't yet know that Sophie was

695
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: going out on her own solo career, so who knows

696
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: what was happening behind the scenes and if they were

697
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: approaching Sophie and the other girls. I think the saddest

698
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: thing is the toll that it took on their friendships,

699
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: because Belinda said in her book that she was extremely

700
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: close to Sophie, they were like sisters, but after this

701
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: meeting she didn't hear anything from her, which is why

702
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm also surprised that they ended up agreeing to this

703
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: final performance, because I mean, how does that go down?

704
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: You have spoken to this person who has gone behind

705
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: your back and started their own career and basically.

706
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: Ruined the band.

707
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: But then you've got to stand up there performing with

708
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: them on stage. It seems like David and his team

709
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: were doing everything that they could to make Sophie's solo

710
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: career a success. So Belinda alleges that she heard from

711
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: reliable sources that one industry figure was trying to rubbish

712
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: the rest of Bardo's names, including her, and that was

713
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: what they were using as an explanation of why Sophie

714
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: had decided to go solo. If this happened today, I

715
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: think things would have gone down completely differently because each

716
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: one of those band members would have had a large

717
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: social media following and the power to put out their

718
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: own statement. They wouldn't have been forced to put out

719
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: this joint PR statement that was clearly a load of shit.

720
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: We've got to remember, from the very beginning, they were

721
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: forced into signing these ridiculous contracts. So I'm assuming that

722
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: they would have had a clause in the contract that

723
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: they couldn't speak out.

724
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

725
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: Now. Belinda also alleges that told her that a Warner

726
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: exec asked Sophie to stay in the band until Bardo

727
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: had done their book commitments, as it meant the girls

728
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: would finally get paid, but Belinda alleges that that request

729
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: was denied as Sophie's solo career was deemed more important.

730
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: The worst bit is she then went on to perform

731
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: at that Rumba festival that Bardo had been booked in

732
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: by herself. She even performed some of Bardo's songs. In

733
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: another crushing moment, shortly after, Blinda said that she went

734
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: into a store and was confronted with a photo of

735
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: Sophie on the front cover of Cleo magazine, and she was,

736
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: of course wearing the blue sequin dress that she'd been

737
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: seen taking photos in the day of Bardo's shoot. Now,

738
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: Belinda said, life after Bardo was hard. People kept asking

739
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: her why they'd broken up, and she felt like a failure.

740
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: She stopped listening to music, and she felt alone, and

741
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: a minute of feeling so low that she thought about

742
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: ending at all, she was diagnosed with PTSD and began

743
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: taking the steps to heal. Now, after everything had gone down,

744
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: Belinda had not heard from Sophie. That was until a

745
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: few months past when Sophie's number appeared on Belinda's phone

746
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: and Belinda waited for it to go to voicemail, and

747
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: she said that Sophie left a message saying Hi Boo,

748
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm on the promo bus in Melbourne and missing you.

749
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: But Belina said this was too late and all her

750
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: trust was gone, so she didn't reply and it was

751
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: the last time she'd ever heard or saw Sophie again.

752
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: I wonder how Sophie Monk is feeling since Belinda released

753
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: her book. Yeah, well, we did hear there was tension

754
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: between the band in twenty twenty, because that of course

755
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: marked twenty years since Bardo's first single, Poison, topped the charts,

756
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: and the women got together virtually to perform the song

757
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: that started at all. However, there were two notable absences,

758
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: Sophie and Sally.

759
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

760
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: So Katie said at the time that Sophie and Sally

761
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: definitely weren't keen on getting the gang back together anytime soon.

762
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: She wrote, Sadly two of our other group members did

763
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: not share the same nostalgia that we do, and that's okay.

764
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: Maybe someday that will change. It is clear that Belinda, Tiffany,

765
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: and Katie have gone on to have a strong bond

766
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: and friendship after Bardo. In the post, Katie wrote in

767
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: these two women, Belinda and Tiffany. I found my tribe funny, intelligent, talented,

768
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: caring and grounded people who am delighted to still call

769
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: friends after all.

770
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: Of these years.

771
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: These last few weeks and even months have been a

772
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: joyful reunion for me. Thank you now. At the time,

773
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: there was a lot of speculation around why Sophie Monk

774
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: didn't want to join in the celebrations, and an official

775
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: statement from Sophie said Sophie would not be taking part

776
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: due to a busy schedule, but wish them the best

777
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: of luck. Awkwardly, though, that week, Sophie did have time

778
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: for an Instagram live double date with her now husband

779
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: Josh and Anthony Clear and his husband Tim Campbell Now.

780
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: During the live, Anthony and Tim, who were huge Bardo superfans,

781
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: mentioned that it was twenty years since the release of Poison.

782
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: Sophie tried to quickly change the subject, saying, but look

783
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: at COVID. It's knocked down any celebrations of twenty years.

784
00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: Hasn't it.

785
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: Still decided to push it, and he said is that

786
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: a good thing or a bad thing, to which Sophie

787
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: laughed and replied, it's a great area. Yeah. It seemed

788
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: as though tension was still high between Sophie and the

789
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: rest of the band, as Tiffany told the media that

790
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: the band were very close to organizing a reunion when

791
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: things all went south. Tiffany told Stella magazine that Katie, Belinda,

792
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: Sally and herself all got together on a four way

793
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: call and discussed it, but Sophie did not take part.

794
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 1: She said it went so well that we were close

795
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: to doing something, but old wounds opened up and people's

796
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: lives are busy. Tiffany added, I've heard Sophie say never,

797
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: say never, but she's never said yes, or maybe she

798
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: said no every time, which is fair enough. She's doing

799
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: our own thing, but we all have our own reasons

800
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: and it's not going ahead.

801
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: I remember being.

802
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: Bitterly disappointed at the time that this didn't go ahead.

803
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: I mean, they did jump on Zoom, but it's not

804
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: really the same with just the three of them singing poison.

805
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: I actually want to see them out touring and taking

806
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: it to different parts of the country.

807
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 7: Yeah.

808
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: Well, if the Spice Girls can get back together, surely

809
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: Bardo can. Surely there's an amount of money that will

810
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: get them all together. The money that they should have

811
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: been paid twenty years ago.

812
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: Now.

813
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Since leaving Bardo, Sophie Monk's career has soared, but not

814
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: in the music industry like her agency may have expected.

815
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: So she released her solo album called Calendar Girls in

816
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and three and she embarked on a press

817
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: tour with her most notable appearance on a short lived

818
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: show called Greeks on the Roof, which was hosted by

819
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: Effie at the time, and it actually went down as

820
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 1: one of the most iconic moments in Australian TV history

821
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: because Sophie ended up playing two recorders with her nose.

822
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: We will include highlights of this on our TikTok and

823
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: I think that the fact that this was one of

824
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: the most notable moments shows that this CD wasn't very successful. Yeah,

825
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: Calendar Girls did peak at number thirty five, while the

826
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: lead single one breath Away came in at number twenty three.

827
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: I personally can't even remember what these songs were.

828
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: Neither can I now.

829
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: By two thousand and four, Sophie started moving away from

830
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: music and she set her sights on Hollywood. She ended

831
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: up appearing in various films including Date Movie, Click, Sex

832
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: and Death One Oh One, the Heels Run Red and

833
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: Spring Breakdown. She even appeared in Blink one eight two's

834
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: film clip for Always Now. She did go back briefly

835
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: to her music roots in two thousand and seven when

836
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: she recorded a cover of Salt and Pepper's Push It Song,

837
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: with the video produced by her then fiance Benji Madden.

838
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: I still can't believe that Sophie Monk was engaged to

839
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Benji Madden. That was a really weird personal crossover for

840
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: me because I loved Good Charlotte growing up. Now, when

841
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: Sophie moved back to Australia, she dominated reality TV, appearing

842
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: as a bachelorette, winning Celebrity Apprentice and being a judge

843
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: on Australia's Got Talent. More recently, she is the host

844
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: of Love Island Australia and Beauty and the Geek.

845
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: She has also been.

846
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: Quite big on radio, so she really has dominated the

847
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: entertainment industry now. After Bardo split up, Belinda went on

848
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: to release two solo singles in two thousand and four

849
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: and five, as well as a dance pop co lab

850
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: with UK mix masters Solaire, which peaked at number twenty

851
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: six on the Aria Singles Charts Belinda then went on

852
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: to work behind the scenes in the entertainment industry as

853
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: creative director for Asia's Next Top Model working in Singapore.

854
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: She then went on to work as a company manager

855
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: for the talent at Universal Studios in Singapore, so she

856
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: very much has stayed in the entertainment industry. She then

857
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: later studied interior design and now runs her own interior

858
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: design business called House of Chapel. That's such a cool name.

859
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 1: We actually had Belinda on our show back in twenty twenty,

860
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: so I will link those episodes in the show notes.

861
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

862
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: Now, Katie was the first to leave Bardo for a

863
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: job in musical theater with the show hair As We

864
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: touched on and that job of course fell through, and

865
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: she has since spoken about the deep depression she fell

866
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: into as a result of what most people thought was

867
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: a foolish career decision. She did make a comeback though,

868
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: focusing her passion on the club scene and dance music,

869
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: and in two thousand and two she collaborated with Australian

870
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: dance duo Disco Montego, resulting in a top ten Hours

871
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: hit Beautiful. She also released her own solo single Danger

872
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: in two thousand and three, which peaked at number thirty

873
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: three on the charts. She did re emerge on the

874
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: music scene in two thousand and six and she teamed

875
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: up with a dance act called t Funk and they

876
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: had a track called b Together, which topped the ARIA

877
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: Club charts for five consecutive weeks. And in twenty eleven

878
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: she did turn her focus to being a mum of

879
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: twin daughters, Charlotte and Zoe. Now. In recent times, Katie

880
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: has turned to new age therapies, training in remedial massage

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Speaker 1: and meditation as well as sound healing. I do absolutely

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Speaker 1: love that Katie and Belinda have teamed up to release

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Speaker 1: new music together under the band name cabell So. One

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Speaker 1: of their songs, follow has just hit number five on

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Speaker 1: the Australian Independent Singles charts. Go listen to it is

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Speaker 1: really good now. As for Sally, she has been living

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Speaker 1: a relatively private life since she left the bed. She's

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Speaker 1: been married for nine years and has two daughters, Chloe

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Speaker 1: and Sophia. Now. On her Instagram, she explained that she

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Speaker 1: gave up music in twenty and eleven after not being

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent happy in that world anymore. In twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: though she did release new music tracks that she'd worked on,

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Speaker 1: and this year she has actually released her own website

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Speaker 1: offering mentoring, consulting, and courses in wellness, personal growth and entertainment.

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Speaker 2: Sally appears to be one of.

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Speaker 1: The only members of Bardo who was still close with

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Speaker 1: Sophie Monk, so in May twenty twenty, she shared a

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Speaker 1: series of throwback photos of her and Sophie during their

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Speaker 1: bard Dough days and wrote, looking through the archives and

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Speaker 1: I'm so grateful to have had Sophie Monk to live

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Speaker 1: through my Bardeau days with some of the best memories

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Speaker 1: with her, and we have quite a few. Love your Sophie,

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Speaker 1: what a ride. Sometimes when you catch up with old friends,

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Speaker 1: it's like no time has passed. Sophie ended up replying

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Speaker 1: love your sal I can't wait to cut you again

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Speaker 1: when we're out of this, referring to COVID. I found

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Speaker 1: this all very interesting because this was around the time

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Speaker 1: that they were supposed to have their reunion, and as

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Speaker 1: Tiffany touched on, Sally seemed quite keen to be involved.

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Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden, apparently it had opened

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Speaker 1: up all of these old wounds. I wonder if Sophie

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Speaker 1: had got in Sally's ear and said, look, let's not

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Speaker 1: do it because it would have looked worse if it

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Speaker 1: was only Sophie who wasn't involved.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Now Tiffany was blindsided when management pulled the pin on Bardo,

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Speaker 1: and she did end up picking up a solo recording

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Speaker 1: contract with Warner Music. So Tiffany's debut single, what Are

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Speaker 1: You Waiting For, deboot at number twenty seven on the

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Speaker 1: ARIA Singles Charts and was one of the most played

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Speaker 1: songs on the Australian radio in that month. Behind the scenes, though,

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Speaker 1: tension between Tiffany and Warner Music was growing. Now Tiffany

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Speaker 1: insisted that she wanted to release her own music. However,

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Speaker 1: Warner Music already planned on releasing someone else's song as

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Speaker 1: her next single, and after failing to reach a compromise,

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Speaker 1: Tiffany made the decision to leave her recording contract and

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Speaker 1: go independent. Now it did prove to be the right move,

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Speaker 1: with her song Spin the Bottle peaking at number two

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Speaker 1: on the Air charts and being featured in promotions for

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Speaker 1: Neighbors during two thousand and six. It's quite nice because

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, Tiffany and Katie reunited in

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Speaker 1: a stage show together and that was for Valentino. I

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Speaker 1: was shocked to discover that Tiffany is a mum to

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Speaker 1: six kids.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how she does it. That is incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's also launched a stage school for kids

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Speaker 1: in Burly Heads where she lives, and she has a

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Speaker 1: workshop called pop Star Kids, which feels very full circle.

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Speaker 1: As we're getting to the end of this, I feel

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Speaker 1: quite emotional now wrapping things up, because I have loved

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Speaker 1: looking back at Bardo.

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Speaker 2: This was so nostalgic for me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have loved every minute of it.

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Speaker 2: And if you haven't already.

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Speaker 1: Checked out our TikTok, we have a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: very nostalgic reels on there of some of the highlights

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Speaker 1: from pop Stars.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just wish we were getting a reunion. I did

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Speaker 1: hear Belinda interviewed and she said that it's really tricky

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Speaker 1: because even if the four girls without Sophie wanted to

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Speaker 1: do a reunion, they don't have the rights to the music. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's such a tricky one. Well, that is where we

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Speaker 1: are going to end. We hope you have enjoyed this episode.

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Speaker 1: If you have, could you please make sure you spread

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Speaker 1: the word on social media and tag us in your

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Speaker 1: Instagram stories. Now, this episode was recorded on the traditional

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Speaker 1: land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We

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Speaker 1: pay respect to elders past in present,