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Speaker 1: Are you a juice drinker? Maybe you have a glass

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Speaker 1: give your kids juice regularly to make sure they get

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Speaker 1: enough vitamin C. Recently, there has been some new research

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Speaker 1: published to show that juice is perhaps not as bad

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Speaker 1: for us as we were once told. So Leanne and

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Speaker 1: I thought it was time that we chatted all things

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Speaker 1: whether it can be part of a healthy diet.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 3: I'm Susy Burrow and I'm Leanne Wood, and.

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Speaker 1: Together we bring you The Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast

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Speaker 1: that keeps you up to date on everything you need

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Speaker 1: to know in the world of nutrition, as well as

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Speaker 1: all things juice. We have some new research to share

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Speaker 1: about diet and anxiety. We have found what we think

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Speaker 1: could be the most healthiest supermarket can soup, and our

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Speaker 1: listener question is all about winter breakfasts.

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Speaker 4: Now, lean there's nothing like a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit of controversial nutrition chat at the best of times,

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Speaker 1: and our tales started wagging this week when we received

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Speaker 1: some research updates from a publication that came out to

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Speaker 1: question whether juice fruit juice was as bad as perhaps

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Speaker 1: had been described. So a little bit of history going back,

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Speaker 1: you know, almost twenty years now, when the first data

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Speaker 1: But from that data pool, there was a consensus that

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Speaker 1: fruit juice was no better. And of course that was

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Speaker 1: controversial because you're comparing a process form of soft drink,

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Speaker 1: So fruit juice is thought that you squeeze it from

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Speaker 1: the oranges. If you buy one hundred percent fruit juice

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Speaker 1: it sort of sits in that middle ground area. So

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Speaker 1: I'll take you through what this publication came to the

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Speaker 1: which was just last week in Nutrition Reviews, which is

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Speaker 4: It included one hundred.

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Speaker 1: And forty four meta analysis which was summarized in fifteen

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Speaker 4: Here's my scientific.

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Speaker 1: Words, and looked at all the benefits and potential negatives.

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Speaker 1: So it was that protective from heart disease, were their

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Speaker 1: And in summary, it found that one hundred percent fruit

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Speaker 1: the criticisms of fruit juice were warranted. Now I hold

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Speaker 1: a very different perspective because what I observe with fruit juice,

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Speaker 1: So that equates upwards of twenty thirty grams of concentrated sugars.

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Speaker 1: And given that Australians consume way too much sugar in general,

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Speaker 1: I don't have it in the house. I don't encourage it.

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Speaker 1: So my observation of kids is that I used to

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Speaker 2: purely by choice. She doesn't need to consume juice. She

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Speaker 2: but you know what I mean. Like, I don't think

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Speaker 2: the black label, Like it's one hundred percent oranges. There's

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Speaker 2: nothing else in it? Is it? You know, healthy because

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Speaker 2: it's pure oranges? Absolutely, but a cup of that so

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Speaker 2: two fifty meals. It's five hundred and fifty kilo jewels,

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Speaker 2: which is roughly one hundred and thirty calories, which is fine, right,

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Speaker 2: I can promise you it's far more than two hundred

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Speaker 2: Because if you're getting your nutrients in from juice, I

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Speaker 2: day in the middle of summer. Absolutely juice can fit in.

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Speaker 2: It can have a place, but I don't think as

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Speaker 2: saying everybody add a couple of cups of juice or

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Speaker 2: I think that given the statistics that ninety five percent

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Speaker 2: That's absolutely the place to start up. We're going to

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Speaker 2: We need to keep reinforcing that nine percent of Australians don't.

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Speaker 3: Need enough vegetables. And what's the stats on fruit.

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Speaker 2: It's something like only fifty percent of Australians eating the

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Speaker 2: recommended to servings of fruit as well. So I would

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Speaker 1: And of interest, I just had to scan through it

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Speaker 1: interesting because that makes sense to me. But a couple

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Speaker 1: not necessarily going through those things. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: you and I would say we eat pretty well and

437
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Speaker 1: we have a lot of fresh food, but you know,

438
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Speaker 1: I'm not really focused on it the way a client

439
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Speaker 1: would be when they're going through a new program and

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Speaker 1: you and that simple change just by adding the fresh food,

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Speaker 1: in lightening up the dinner, focusing on protein rich options,

442
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Speaker 1: slashing out the process food. In a week, my clients

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Speaker 1: will say they just feel like a new person. And

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Speaker 1: it just constantly amazes me that that is how profound

445
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Speaker 1: it is when your diet is strong. So if you

446
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Speaker 1: know that you eat pretty well, but it's probably a

447
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Speaker 1: six or seven out of ten, and you know, you

448
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Speaker 1: know your mood could be improved, and you're under a

449
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Speaker 1: lot of stress, and you do take medication for mood

450
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Speaker 1: or anxiety, you know, really, see how can I super

451
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Speaker 1: load my diet up and if you do feel better?

452
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Speaker 1: It's the cheapest intervention You'll find that, as we've learned,

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Speaker 1: one of the most profound when it comes to mental

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Speaker 1: health and self management of mood disorders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're interested in mental health. Just simply

456
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Speaker 2: google the Smiles trial which happened here in Australia. It

457
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Speaker 2: was a landmark study worldwide and it happened to here

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Speaker 2: in Australia. Smile as in grin like smile s m

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Speaker 2: I l E Smiles trial and you'll see some great

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Speaker 2: research how diet positively impacts mental health. And I'll just

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Speaker 2: wrap it up Susie by saying that often we think

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Speaker 2: about these processed foods when we're trying to lose weight.

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Speaker 2: But I think if we can flip the script on

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Speaker 2: that and not just think, oh, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: eat these foods because I'm trying to lose weight, actually

466
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Speaker 2: think about how they impact our brain. Because for me,

467
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Speaker 2: that provides so much greater motivation when I think a

468
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Speaker 2: lot of these ultra processed foods not only impact my gut,

469
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Speaker 2: but could also impact my mood and my anxiety level,

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Speaker 2: and that just makes the steaks even higher. Like you're

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Speaker 2: not just thinking, oh if I eat this, I won't

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Speaker 2: lose weight, or if I eat this, I might gain

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Speaker 2: a little bit of weight. You're thinking more broadly about

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Speaker 2: your health long term, and for me, I think that

475
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Speaker 2: provides far better motivation long term than just simply thinking

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Speaker 2: about I can't eat this food because I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: lose weight, because that is a very short term. I

478
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Speaker 2: guess mindset around those foods and it doesn't really help

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Speaker 2: you out long term. So that's all I wanted to

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Speaker 2: kind of wrap it up for very true.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we've got an interesting product today because

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Speaker 1: it's obviously soup season being so chilly, and Leanna and

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Speaker 1: I have spoken many times about the pouch and fresh

484
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Speaker 1: ships that we love in supermarket, one from a cost perspective,

485
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Speaker 1: but too nutritionally they're really pretty good now, but you

486
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Speaker 1: sent me one when you're at the supermarket recently of

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Speaker 1: a can soup that is especially good, and I have

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Speaker 1: to agree with you. This has been in my trolleys

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Speaker 1: of soups many times, but I think there's a real

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Speaker 1: perceptionally and that canned and tin soup is really not healthy,

491
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Speaker 1: whereas fresh much better. But in the case of this

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Speaker 1: one we're going to talk about today, I think it's

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Speaker 1: the best can soup in supermarket, and that's certainly.

494
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Speaker 4: The best I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: The only downside is an imported product, but very strong nutritionally,

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Speaker 1: So this is the Amy's Kitchen can soup range. Now

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Speaker 1: today I'm going to talk about the lentil and vegetable

498
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Speaker 1: but to be honest, they're all really good, and I

499
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Speaker 1: believe they're in both Coals and Willies. I've seen them

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Speaker 1: at both. Obviously, the supermarkets tend to have different ranges.

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Speaker 1: But the one i'll talk about today, so it's four

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Speaker 1: hundred gram tin slightly odd sized because it does come

503
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Speaker 1: from the States, and this one retails at three dollars

504
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Speaker 1: ninety per can. It does refer to two serves. Now,

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Speaker 1: admittedly it's not a massive serve. I think a lot

506
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Speaker 1: of people would down in one serve, but for four

507
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Speaker 1: dollars it's very cost effective and nutritionally. The thing that

508
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Speaker 1: Leanne and I like the most is this massively clean

509
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Speaker 1: ingredient list, Because if you've ever looked at can soup

510
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Speaker 1: in particular, you'll notice the ingredient list is a mile long.

511
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Speaker 1: It's got so many additives stabilized as thickness, Whereas this

512
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Speaker 1: is about as clean as I've ever seen.

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Speaker 4: On a can soup.

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Speaker 1: Organic vegetables come first, with onions, carrot, celery, potatoes, spinach,

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Speaker 1: green beans, dice, tomatoes, garlic, forty nine percent, so half

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Speaker 1: of that can. Now you never see on a soup

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Speaker 1: those kind of veggies like carrot, celery, spinach, You never

518
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Speaker 1: even see them as ingredients because they're usually too expensive.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that that's the basin not just potato,

520
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Speaker 1: is huge. It's then got organic green lentils at eight percent,

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Speaker 1: which is also a huge whole food to be including

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Speaker 1: organic olive oil, so even a good oil, sea salts

523
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Speaker 1: and bassomic vinegar and orglanic black pepper and spices that

524
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Speaker 1: is itch like. It is clean as clean can be

525
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Speaker 1: nutritionally per serve. So this is per two hundred gram,

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Speaker 1: so half the can. It's about one hundred and what

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Speaker 1: is that th forty in my math land, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty calories per serve, five grams of protein, three

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Speaker 1: grams of fat it's a low fat food. Twenty grams

530
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Speaker 1: of carbohydrate and four coming from sugars, but they're all natural.

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Speaker 4: There's no added sugar in this product.

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Speaker 1: Three point six grams of dietary fiber are significant, and

533
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Speaker 1: just six hundred milligrams of sodium, which is actually quite

534
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Speaker 1: low for a soup. In most of them will come

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Speaker 1: in eight nine hundred per serve but I think from

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Speaker 1: a cost like to keep this in the pantry to

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Speaker 1: have on a cold night with a slice of protein toast,

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Speaker 1: you will not get a cleaner ingredient list on a

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Speaker 1: can soup that I've ever seen than this brand and

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Speaker 1: this range. Now I haven't tasted it, but they've been

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Speaker 1: around for quite a long time, which makes me think

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Speaker 1: they probably do taste pretty good, because generally speaking, if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't taste good, they don't survive in supermarket.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: They always make my supermarket trolley of soups and really

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Speaker 1: good one to keep in the cupboard for those nights

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Speaker 1: when you don't want to cook or need a quick

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Speaker 1: and easy lunch that you can eat as I said,

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Speaker 1: with some crackers or a slice of protein toast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with I think, as you said, a

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Speaker 2: lot of people would consume a whole tin, then there's

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that. The only thing you'd want to

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Speaker 2: be aware of is the sodium. If you were to

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Speaker 2: consume the whole tin, it goes from six hundred milligrams

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Speaker 2: a serve to twelve hundred milligrams, which is quite a

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Speaker 2: lot of sodium. So if you've got issues with blood

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Speaker 2: pressure your heart, or you're supposed to be on a

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Speaker 2: fluid restriction, you would just be wanting to be quite

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Speaker 2: wary of that amount of sodium. If not, I would

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Speaker 2: have half the container, like it's recommended, add a big

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Speaker 2: handful of brocoli in, throw in something like some chicken

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Speaker 2: vest to bump up the protein, and like you said,

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Speaker 2: I would then serve that with a slice or two

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Speaker 2: of toast. If you're adding a bit of chicken into day,

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't even need the protein toast. But if you

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Speaker 2: didn't want to, if you wanted to keep it vegetarian

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Speaker 2: or vegan, you could certainly use the ranges of protein

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Speaker 2: toast which are on the market as well, and that

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Speaker 2: would give you a serious whack of fiber, because even

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Speaker 2: a slice of that protein bread is significant in terms

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Speaker 2: of fiber, like you know, seven to ten grams for

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Speaker 2: some brands, plus the additional three and a half grams

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Speaker 2: from this soup would be absolutely awesome.

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Speaker 3: So I love it.

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Speaker 2: I think the ingredient list is amazing, and it's so

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Speaker 2: rare to find ingredients that a shelf ste you know,

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Speaker 2: they can sit on the shelf for many months without emosifiers,

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Speaker 2: without additives, without preservatives, because often those things are added

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Speaker 2: to these foods to preserve them and give them a

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Speaker 2: longer shelf life. So the fact that this is you know,

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Speaker 2: as you said, it's completely just whole food ingredients.

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Speaker 3: There's not one additive in there.

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Speaker 2: Like this is exactly how like your great grandmother would

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Speaker 2: make super home.

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Speaker 3: You could not do it any better yourself.

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Speaker 2: And like you said, it's on sale at the moment,

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Speaker 2: will worse for three dollars ninety, but it normally retails

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Speaker 2: of four dollars forty, so still a very affordable lunch

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Speaker 2: or dinner option. And the best thing is as well,

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Speaker 2: it's Celiac approved for all of our Celiac listeners, which

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Speaker 2: we love as well. Yeah, so big thumbs up from me.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely love it like you, I haven't tried it. I'm

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Speaker 2: not a huge fan of can souper. I much prefer

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Speaker 2: the fresh ones. But I'm absolutely devastated because it seems

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Speaker 2: that they pulled my favorite perform soups off, the Marcus Susie.

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Speaker 2: I nearly had a cry, and then I had a

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Speaker 2: breakdown that I moved on and I might have to

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Speaker 2: go try this one.

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Speaker 3: Devastated, I can't.

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Speaker 2: It's like you and the crackers, you know, like I

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Speaker 2: didn't feel your level of pain when they took away

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Speaker 2: yearlin of crackers. But this is this's my super I

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Speaker 2: habit two or three times a week and devastated.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm so upset that every time we find these

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Speaker 1: great products. My most recent pain was the bird's eye

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Speaker 1: quliflow rice resource. I don't know what it is, lean like,

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Speaker 1: why are they not listening to us? These are good products,

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Speaker 1: don't take them away? Like we're so upset? So I

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Speaker 1: feel your pain, and I don't want to jinx products

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Speaker 1: because it feels like when we really.

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Speaker 4: Like something, it gets to lated.

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Speaker 1: But I actually think it's probably a reflection of quality

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Speaker 1: of product. So I think that when these are outstanding

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Speaker 1: products nutritionally, they often cost a lot much more to make,

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Speaker 1: and incurrent times, supermarkets just you know, cutting back everywhere.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's a bit bleak, certainly, but

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will be sad about

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Speaker 1: that suit missing as well. All right, Lene, Well, final

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Speaker 1: segment of today tick Off My Fancy on the podcast

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Speaker 1: Instagram because it was all about winter breakfast and specifically

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Speaker 1: is it possible the English muffins and crumpets healthy and

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Speaker 1: my self and my boys love a crumpet where crumpet

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Speaker 1: eaters from way back, and I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: good little chat because a lot of us are looking

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Speaker 1: for that sort of nourishing, warming food At the moment,

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Speaker 1: I think they're two different questions. In the case of

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Speaker 1: English muffins, certainly you can find whole meal and multi

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Speaker 1: grain varieties and they're pretty similar to two slices of bread. Admittedly,

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Speaker 1: they're not as common as they once were, like used

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Speaker 1: to have them all the time. I haven't seen them

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Speaker 1: for ages, but I think they're still there. I also

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Speaker 1: know that Woolies did have the high protein variety of

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Speaker 1: the English muffin available at some point. Now again I

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Speaker 1: haven't looked recently, but they used to have that green

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Speaker 1: Macro English muffin options. So certainly, if you find a

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Speaker 1: whole grain variety, which should be our preference. In the

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Speaker 1: case of crumpets, is a bit trickier because crumpets are

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Speaker 1: pretty processed, like they don't have a lot of dietary fiber,

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Speaker 1: particularly the white ones, and I do seek out the

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Speaker 1: whole meal ones for my kids, but even those are

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Speaker 1: not overly high. They're pretty low. I think it's like

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Speaker 1: one or two grams of fiber perserve, so I I

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Speaker 1: think that they're not overly healthy. It's a bit hard

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Speaker 1: to get a protein topping, like you don't really do

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Speaker 1: an egg on a crumpet.

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Speaker 3: That would be weird. I think if you can do it.

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Speaker 1: Like perhaps a protein French toast in the pan with

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Speaker 1: some nourished protein powder, fantastic. I think that they're sort

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Speaker 1: of more occasional. I'd call them more a weekend food

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Speaker 1: because I'd much prefer a whole grain bread or breakfast

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Speaker 1: cereal to be going into the diets. You if you

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Speaker 1: love them and you know a Vegimi crumpet's your thing,

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Speaker 1: I think occasionally, no problem, try and get the whole

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Speaker 1: meal ones. But certainly they're more of that occasional food

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Speaker 1: rather than a daily stable because they lack the whole

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Speaker 1: grains and the dietary fiber. So the English muffin if

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Speaker 1: you can find the grain ones, are better. And then

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Speaker 1: if you love a crumpet, I'd keep it more for

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Speaker 1: the weekends and just get the whole meal ones if

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Speaker 1: you can, and keep in mind there's not a lot

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Speaker 1: of protein there. It's just all process carbohydrate. Really, who

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Speaker 1: puts vegumine on a crumpet?

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Speaker 3: You're odd? I bought honey and butter.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I have to have vegiwie. But like it's

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Speaker 4: the holes absorble the butter, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like put venjumine and butter on bow and then you'd

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Speaker 2: squeeze them together and then make the worms.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever do that? What you're as?

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Speaker 1: Yes, we've all been there. We all love them, but

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Speaker 1: are they technically as healthy? No they're not, So I'd

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Speaker 1: use them more occasionally because yeah, let's be honest, we

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Speaker 1: all put butter. It alsocks into the holes and in

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Speaker 1: the case of honey, you're having a very high carbohydrate breakfast,

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Speaker 1: which is much more of a treat than a nutritious,

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Speaker 1: protein rich breakfast. So yeah, Unfortunately, the English muffin wins

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Speaker 1: way above the crumpets on today's episode of The Nutrition Couch.

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Speaker 3: Sadly, very sadly, sadly, Yes.

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