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Speaker 1: Are you a juice drinker?

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Speaker 2: Maybe you have a glass of juice on the weekend,

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Speaker 2: or if you're at a special breakfast like at a

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Speaker 2: hotel buffet, or maybe you give your kids juice regularly

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Speaker 2: to make sure they get enough vitamin C. Recently, there

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Speaker 2: has been some new research published to show that juice

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Speaker 2: is perhaps not as bad for us as we were

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Speaker 2: once told. So Leanne and I thought it was time

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Speaker 2: that we chatted all things juice and shared with you

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Speaker 2: what we really think about whether it can be part

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Speaker 2: of a healthy diet.

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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Susy Burrow and I'm Leon Wood, and.

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Speaker 2: Together we bring you The Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast

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Speaker 2: that keeps you up to date on everything you need

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Speaker 2: to know in the world of nutrition, as well as

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Speaker 2: all things juice. We have some new research to share

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Speaker 2: about diet and anxiety. We have found what we think

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Speaker 2: could be the most healthiest supermarket can soup, and our

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Speaker 2: listener question is all about winter breakfasts. Now, lean there's

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Speaker 2: nothing like a little bit of controversial nutrition chat at

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Speaker 2: the best of times, and our tale started wagging this

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Speaker 2: week when we received some research updates from a publication

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Speaker 2: that came out to question whether juice. Fruit juice was

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Speaker 2: as bad as perhaps had been described. So a little

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Speaker 2: bit of history going back, you know, almost twenty years now,

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Speaker 2: sweetened drinks, specifically soft drink. But from that data pool,

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Speaker 2: there was a consensus that fruit juice was no better.

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Speaker 2: And of course that was controversial because you're comparing a

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Speaker 2: spoons in a six hundred mel buddy bottle, to what

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Speaker 2: is perceived as a natural food. So fruit juice is

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Speaker 2: thought that you squeeze it from the oranges. If you

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Speaker 2: in supermarkets, how can that possibly be as bad as

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Speaker 2: healthy eating. Even though whole fruit is considered or encouraged,

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Speaker 2: certainly there's reference made to us a server fruit juice

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Speaker 2: in that middle ground area. So I'll take you through

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Speaker 2: what this publication came to the conclusion of. And this

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Speaker 2: to take you through this publication which was just last

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Speaker 2: and it was a meta analysis, a systematic review of

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Speaker 2: articles that specifically looked at the negative, potential, negative, and

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Speaker 2: positive effects of fruit juice consumption. It included one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty four meta analysis which was summarized in fifteen

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Speaker 2: systemic literature review, Sorry systematic systematic, give's my scientific words

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Speaker 2: for them, and looked at all the benefits and potential negatives.

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Speaker 2: So it was that protective from heart disease, were their

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Speaker 2: And in summary, it found that one hundred percent fruit

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Speaker 2: from an anti inflammatory perspective. There was no increase in

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Speaker 2: a very different perspective because what I observe with fruit juice,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not talking about someone who has half a

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Speaker 2: day and nutritionally. As dietitians, what is always front of

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Speaker 2: So that equates upwards of twenty thirty grams of concentrated sugars.

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Speaker 2: And given that Australians consume way too much sugar in general,

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Speaker 2: I don't have it in the house. I don't encourage it.

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Speaker 2: So my observation of kids is that I used to

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Speaker 2: it's certainly not healthy. Am I being too hard?

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Speaker 3: Mere had never up until literally about three weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: is purely by choice. She doesn't need to consume juice.

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Speaker 3: She loves fruit, like as a little fruit bat. But

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Speaker 3: I want her consuming whole fruit because she has to

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Speaker 3: hundred percent oranges.

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Speaker 3: You know, healthy because it's pure oranges? Absolutely, but a

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Speaker 3: If the average person isn't eating enough fruit and veggies.

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Speaker 3: So I agree Susie for a certain type of person. Potentially,

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Speaker 3: we need to start that. That's absolutely the place to

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Speaker 2: And of interest, I've just had to scan through it

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Speaker 2: You know, I think you and I would say we

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Speaker 2: eat pretty well and we have a lot of fresh food,

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Speaker 2: but you know, I'm not really focused on it the

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Speaker 2: way a client would be when they're going through a

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Speaker 2: new program, and this and that simple change just by

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Speaker 2: adding the fresh food, in lightening up the dinner, focusing

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Speaker 2: on protein rich options, slashing out the process food. In

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Speaker 2: a week, my clients will say they just feel like

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Speaker 2: a new person. And it just constantly amazes me that

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Speaker 2: that is how profound it is when your diet is strong.

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Speaker 2: So if you know that you eat pretty well, but

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Speaker 2: it's probably a six or seven out of ten, and

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Speaker 2: you know, you know your mood could be improved, and

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Speaker 2: you're under a lot of stress, and you do take

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Speaker 2: medication for mood or anxiety. You know, really, see, how

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Speaker 2: can I super load my diet up and if you

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Speaker 2: do feel better? It's the cheapest intervention you'll find that,

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Speaker 2: as we've learned, one of the most profound when it

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Speaker 2: comes to mental health and self management. Of mood disorders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you're interested in mental health, just simply

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Speaker 3: google the Smiles trial, which happened here in Australia, was

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Speaker 3: a landmark study worldwide, and it happened here in Australia.

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Speaker 3: Smile as in grin like smile as m I l

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Speaker 3: E Smiles trial, and you'll see some great research how

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Speaker 3: diet positively impacts mental health. And I'll just wrap it

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Speaker 3: up Susie by saying that often we think about these

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Speaker 3: processed foods when we're trying to lose weight.

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Speaker 1: But I think if we can flip the script on.

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Speaker 3: That and not just think, oh, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: eat these foods because I'm trying to lose weight, actually

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Speaker 3: think about how they impact our brain. Because for me,

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Speaker 3: that provides so much greater motivation when I think a

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Speaker 3: lot of these ultra processed foods not only impact my gut,

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Speaker 3: but could also impact my mood and my anxiety level.

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Speaker 3: And that just makes the steaks even higher. Like you're

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Speaker 3: not just thinking, oh, if I eat this, I won't

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Speaker 3: lose weight, or if I eat this, I might gain

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Speaker 3: a little bit of weight. You're thinking more broadly about

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Speaker 3: your health long term, and for me, I think that

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Speaker 3: provides far better motivation long term than just simply thinking

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Speaker 3: about I can't eat this food because I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: lose weight, Because that is a very short term. I

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Speaker 3: guess mindset around those foods and it doesn't really help

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Speaker 3: you out long term. So that's all I wanted to

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Speaker 3: kind of wrap it up for very true.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we've got an interesting product today because

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Speaker 2: it's obviously soup season, being so chilly, and Leanna and

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Speaker 2: I have spoken many times about the pouch and fresh

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Speaker 2: ships that we love in supermarket, one from a cost perspective,

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Speaker 2: but too nutritionally they're really pretty good now, but you

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Speaker 2: sent me one when you're at the supermarket recently of

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Speaker 2: a can soup that is especially good, and I have

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Speaker 2: to agree with you. This has been in my trolleys

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Speaker 2: of soups many times, but I think there's a real

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Speaker 2: perceptionallyan that canned and tin soup is really not healthy,

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Speaker 2: whereas fresh much better. But in the case of this

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Speaker 2: one we're going to talk about today, I think it's

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Speaker 2: the best can soup in supermarket, and that's certainly the

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Speaker 2: best I've ever seen. The only downside is an imported product.

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Speaker 2: But very strong nutritionally. So this is the Amy's Kitchen

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Speaker 2: can soup range. Now today I'm going to talk about

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Speaker 2: the lentil and vegetable, but to be honest, they're all

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Speaker 2: really good, and I believe they're in both Coals and Willies.

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Speaker 2: I've seen them at both. Obviously, the supermarkets tend to

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Speaker 2: have different ranges. But the one i'll talk about today,

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Speaker 2: so it's four hundred gram tin, slightly odd sized because

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Speaker 2: it does come from the States, and this one retails

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Speaker 2: at three dollars ninety per can. It does refer to

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Speaker 2: two serves. Now, admittedly it's not a massive serve. I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of people would down in one serve,

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Speaker 2: but for four dollars it's very cost effective and nutritionally.

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Speaker 2: The thing that Leanne and I like the most is

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Speaker 2: this massively clean ingredient list. Because if you've ever looked

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Speaker 2: at can soup in particular, you'll notice the ingredient list

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Speaker 2: is a mile long. It's got so many additives stabilized

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Speaker 2: as thickness, Whereas this is about as clean as I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen on a can soup. Organic vegetables come first,

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Speaker 2: with onions, carrot, celery, potatoes, spinach, green beans, dice, tomatoes,

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Speaker 2: garlic forty nine percent, so half of that can. Now

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Speaker 2: you never see on a soup those kind of veggies

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Speaker 2: like carrot, celery, spinach, You never even see them as

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Speaker 2: ingredients because they're usually too expensive. So the fact that

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Speaker 2: that's the basin not just potato, is huge. It's then

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Speaker 2: got organic green lentils at eight percent, which is also

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Speaker 2: huge whole food to be including organic olive oil, so

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Speaker 2: even a good oil, sea salts and balsomic vinegar and

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Speaker 2: orglanic black pepper and spices. That is it like it

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Speaker 2: is clean as clean can be nutritionally per serve. So

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Speaker 2: this is per two hundred gram so half the can,

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Speaker 2: it's about one hundred and what is that thirty forty

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Speaker 2: in my mass land.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and.

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Speaker 2: Forty calories per serve, five grams of protein, three grams

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Speaker 2: of fat. It's a low fat food. Twenty grams of

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Speaker 2: carbohydrate and four coming from sugars, but they're all natural.

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Speaker 1: There's no added sugar in this product.

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Speaker 2: Three point six grams of dietary fiber are significant, and

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Speaker 2: just six hundred milligrams of sodium, which is actually quite

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Speaker 2: low for a soup. In most of them will come

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Speaker 2: in eight nine hundred per serve. But I think from

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Speaker 2: a cost like to keep this in the pantry to

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Speaker 2: have on a cold night with a slice of protein toast,

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Speaker 2: you will not get a cleaner ingredient list on a

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Speaker 2: can soup that I've ever seen than this brand and

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Speaker 2: this range. Now I haven't tasted it, but they've been

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Speaker 2: around for quite a long time, which makes me think

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Speaker 2: they probably do taste pretty good, because generally speaking, if

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Speaker 2: it doesn't taste good, they don't survive in supermarket.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: They always make my supermarket trolley of soups and really

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Speaker 2: good one to keep in the cupboard for those nights

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Speaker 2: when you don't want to cook or need a quick

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Speaker 2: and easy lunch that you can eat as I said,

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Speaker 2: with some crackers or a slice of protein toast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with I think as you said, a

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Speaker 3: lot of people would consume a whole tin and there's

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Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that. The only thing you'd want to

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Speaker 3: be aware of is the sodium. If you were to

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Speaker 3: consume the whole tin, it goes from six hundred milligrams

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Speaker 3: a serve to twelve hundred milligrams, which is quite a

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Speaker 3: lot of sodium. So if you've got issues with blood

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Speaker 3: pressure your heart, or you're supposed to be on a

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Speaker 3: fluttle restriction, you would just be wanting to be quite

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Speaker 3: wary of that amount of sodium. If not, I would

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Speaker 3: have half the container, like it's recommended, add a big

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Speaker 3: handful of broccolian, throw in something like some chicken vest

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Speaker 3: to bump up the protein, and like you said, I

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Speaker 3: would then serve that with a slice or two of toast.

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Speaker 3: If you're adding a bit of chicken intoday, you wouldn't

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Speaker 3: even need the protein toast, But if you didn't want to,

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Speaker 3: if you wanted to keep it vegetarian or vegan, you

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Speaker 3: could certainly use the ranges of protein toast which are

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Speaker 3: on the market as well, And that would give you

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Speaker 3: a serious whack of fiber, because even a slice of

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Speaker 3: that protein bread is significantly in terms of fiber, like

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Speaker 3: you know, seven to ten grams for some brands, plus

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Speaker 3: the additional three and a half grams from this soup

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Speaker 3: would be absolutely awesome.

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Speaker 1: So I love it.

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Speaker 3: I think the ingredient list is amazing, and it's so

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Speaker 3: rare to find ingredients that a shelf, you know, they

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Speaker 3: can sit on the shelf for many months, without emolsifiers,

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Speaker 3: without additives, without preservatives, because often those things are added

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Speaker 3: to these foods to preserve them and give them a

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Speaker 3: longer shelf life. So the fact that this is you know,

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Speaker 3: as you said, it's completely just whole food ingredients. There's

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Speaker 3: not one additive in there. Like this is exactly how

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Speaker 3: like your great grandmother would make super at home.

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Speaker 1: You could not do it any better yourself.

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Speaker 3: And like you said, it's on sale at the moment,

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Speaker 3: will worst for three dollars ninety, but it normally retails

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Speaker 3: of four dollars forty, so it still a very affordable

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Speaker 3: lunch or dinner option. And the best thing is as well,

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Speaker 3: it's Celiac approved for all of our Celiac listeners, which

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Speaker 3: we love as well. Yeah, so big thumbs up from me.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely love it, like you, I haven't tried it. I'm

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Speaker 3: not a huge fan of can souper. I much prefer

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Speaker 3: the fresh ones. But I'm absolutely devastated because it seems

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Speaker 3: that they pulled my favorite perform soups off the market.

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Speaker 1: Susie.

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Speaker 3: I nearly had to cry and then had a break

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Speaker 3: down that I moved on and I might have to

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Speaker 3: go try this one.

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Speaker 1: Devastated. I can't.

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Speaker 3: It's like you and the crackers, you know, like I

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Speaker 3: didn't feel your level of pain when they took away

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Speaker 3: yearl Ina crackers.

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Speaker 1: But this is this is my super I have it

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Speaker 1: two or three times a week and devastated.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm so upset that every time we find these

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Speaker 2: great products. My most recent pain was the bird's eye

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Speaker 2: quliflow rice resource. I don't know what it is, Lea, like,

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Speaker 2: why are they not listening to us? These are good products?

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Speaker 2: Don't take them away? Like we're so upset. So I

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Speaker 2: feel your pain, and I don't want to jinx products

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Speaker 2: because it feels like when we really like something, it

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Speaker 2: gets to l But I actually think it's probably a

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Speaker 2: reflection of quality of product. So I think that when

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Speaker 2: these are outstanding products nutritionally, they often cost a lot

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Speaker 2: much more to make, and in current times, supermarkets just

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Speaker 2: you know, cutting back everywhere. So I don't know, it's

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Speaker 2: a bit bleak, certainly, but I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people will be sad about that suit missing as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, LeAnn Well final segment of Today tick Off

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Speaker 2: My Fancy on the podcast Instagram because it was all

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Speaker 2: about winter breakfasts and specifically, is it possible the English

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Speaker 2: muffins and crumpets healthy and my self and my boys

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Speaker 2: love a crumpet where crumpet eaters from way back, and

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a good little chat because a

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Speaker 2: lot of us are looking for that sort of nourishing,

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Speaker 2: warming food At the moment, I think they're two different questions.

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Speaker 2: In the case of English muffins, certainly you can find

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Speaker 2: whole meal and multigrain varieties and they're pretty similar to

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Speaker 2: two slices of bread. Admittedly, they're not as common as

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Speaker 2: they once were, like used to have them all the time.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen them for ages, but I think they're

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Speaker 2: still there. I also know that Woollies did have the

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Speaker 2: high protein variety of the English muffin available at some point.

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Speaker 2: Now again I haven't looked recently, but they used to

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Speaker 2: have that green Macro English muffin option. So certainly, if

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Speaker 2: you find a whole grain variety, which should be our preference.

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Speaker 2: In the case of crumpets, it's a bit trickier because

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Speaker 2: crumpets are pretty processed, like they don't have a lot

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Speaker 2: of dietary fiber, particularly the white ones, and I do

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Speaker 2: seek out the whole meal ones for my kids, but

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Speaker 2: even those are not overly high. They're pretty low. I

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Speaker 2: think it's like one or two grams of fiber perserve,

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Speaker 2: so I I think that they're not overly healthy. It's

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Speaker 2: a bit hard to get a protein topping, like you

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Speaker 2: don't really do an egg on a crumpet.

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Speaker 1: That would be weird.

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Speaker 2: I think if you could do it like perhaps a

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Speaker 2: protein French toast in the pan with some nourish protein powder, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I think that they're sort of more occasional. I'd call

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Speaker 2: them more a weekend food because I'd much prefer a

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Speaker 2: whole grain bread or breakfast cereal to be going into

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Speaker 2: the diets. If you if you love them and you

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Speaker 2: know a Vegimi crumpets your thing, I think occasionally no

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Speaker 2: problem try and get the whole meal ones. But certainly

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Speaker 2: they're more of that occasional food rather than a daily

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Speaker 2: stable because they lack the whole grains and the dietary fiber.

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Speaker 2: So the English muffin if you can find the grain ones,

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Speaker 2: are better. And then if you love a crumpet, I'd

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Speaker 2: keep it more for the weekends and just get the

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Speaker 2: whole meal ones if you can and keep in mind

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Speaker 2: there's not a lot of protein there, it's just will

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Speaker 2: process carbohydrate.

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Speaker 3: Really, who puts vegimine on a crumpet? Your odd I

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Speaker 3: bought honey and butter.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I have to have vegiwie. But it does

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Speaker 2: like it's the holes absorb ale the butter, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like.

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Speaker 3: Vegumite and butter on bow and then you'd squeeze them

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Speaker 3: together and then make the worms.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever do that when you're yes, we've all

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Speaker 2: been there. We all love them, but are they technically

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Speaker 2: as healthy? No they're not, So I'd use them more

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Speaker 2: occasionally because yeah, let's be honest, we all put butter.

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Speaker 1: It allsoks into the holes. And in the case of honey,

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Speaker 1: you're having a.

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Speaker 2: Very high carbohydrate breakfast, which is much more of a

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Speaker 2: treat than a nutritious, protein rich breakfast. So yeah, Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: the English muffin wins way above the crumpets.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode of The.

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Speaker 3: Nutrition Couch, sadly, very sadly, sadly, Yes, all right ly,

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Speaker 3: and what that brings us to the end of another episode.

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Speaker 2: Please keep telling your friends about us so we can

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Speaker 2: continue to grow. We are getting pretty close to five

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Speaker 2: million downloads, which is amazing that so many people are

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Speaker 2: keen to hear about nutrition and so yeah, continue to

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Speaker 2: let everyone know so we can continue to bring the

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Speaker 2: our regular episode drop.

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