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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda, jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: A man has won a court battle against the state's

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Speaker 2: high tech phone detection cameras. You know those phone detection

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Speaker 2: cameras that you see the yellow trailery thing and a gantry.

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Speaker 2: He had to prove he was holding a snack style

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Speaker 2: cheese dip packet rather than a mobile.

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Speaker 1: Phone, so he was done for. They saw him around.

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Speaker 2: He got fined. It looks like he's playing with his

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Speaker 2: mobile phone, but he's not.

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Speaker 1: He was eating a snack.

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Speaker 2: He was eating well, he wasn't eating a snack. Excuse me, counsel.

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Speaker 2: He was eating a dippets, which the AUDI version of

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Speaker 2: a snack. So he had to sit in the winner's

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Speaker 2: box and demonstrate how to open a pack of dippets.

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Speaker 3: That would be notoriously harder than just pressing a phone

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Speaker 3: to look for something, for a sat Nav or something,

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Speaker 3: and you're not allowed to do that. But it's okay

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Speaker 3: to do this, Okay, don't hate it, don't shoot the message,

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Speaker 3: shut the.

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Speaker 2: Messenger, his skill with the dippets and shield. His fine

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Speaker 2: and five demerit points was overturned in court. This man

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Speaker 2: can't be named. By the way, he can't be named.

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Speaker 2: His name has been suppressed, so his lawyer has done

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Speaker 2: all the talking.

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Speaker 1: I bet it's a free year's supply of dippets from Audi.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get well that would be.

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Speaker 1: Look how easy he makes it look to open twenty.

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Speaker 2: Dollars to clear his name the man. His lawyer says

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Speaker 2: his client had to demonstrate in court how deft he

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Speaker 2: was opening the pack dippets on.

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Speaker 1: You know who pays for it, who for these lawyers.

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Speaker 2: And had to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. The lawyer says,

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Speaker 2: my client is a hard working Australian who was simply

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Speaker 2: trying to have his afternoon tea after finishing. Under new

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Speaker 2: South Wales law, it's not illegal to eat while driving

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Speaker 2: as long as you have proper control of the vehicle,

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Speaker 2: which includes having at least one hand on the steering wheel.

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Speaker 2: The man was called to give evidence and a packet

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Speaker 2: of dippets was tendered to the court. The man was

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Speaker 2: asked to demonstrate from the witness box how he peeled

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Speaker 2: open the seal on package on the packaging to illustrate

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Speaker 2: that it was the same motion depicted in the photograph.

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Speaker 1: Is this taxpayer funded that? You know?

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Speaker 3: If if the government is saying you used your phone

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Speaker 3: were taking you to he brought the case. But is

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Speaker 3: this taxpayer money somewhere somewhere?

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Speaker 2: We're paying for this, but come on, the entertainment's worth it.

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Speaker 2: The man demonstrated to the court that he held the

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Speaker 2: dippets with his right palm and used his left index

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Speaker 2: finger and thumb.

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Speaker 1: The hand was still on the wheel.

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Speaker 2: So a key point to establishing his credibility was whether

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Speaker 2: the man opened the packaging from the end containing the

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Speaker 2: cheese or the end containing the cracker. If you get

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Speaker 2: it wrong, if you go from the because that's where

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Speaker 2: the easy open section is, because you're meant to open

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Speaker 2: it from the cheese end, and then the cheese is

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Speaker 2: revealed and then you crashed.

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Speaker 3: So if he'd opened it the other way, it wouldn't

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Speaker 3: have been a trople motion.

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Speaker 1: Would have been to wouldn't have revealed his crackers.

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Speaker 2: The man told the cord he opened the packaging from

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Speaker 2: the cracker end while he was driving. Oh, hang on,

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Speaker 2: I've got this wrong. You got to open it from

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Speaker 2: the cracker.

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Speaker 3: You open it from the end where it's easier and

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Speaker 3: fled to be open.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The lawyer went on to say, I've represented murderers

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Speaker 2: and the like it never ceases to amaze me, the

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Speaker 2: nature of the unusual cases that present themselves. The man

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Speaker 2: won the case. There you go. Imagine that you don't

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Speaker 2: see a movie like that. A few good men. You

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Speaker 2: can't handle the dippets.

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Speaker 3: Imagine even at home practicing how to open them. Definitely,

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Speaker 3: you fake the whole thing. Walks away, limping, what was

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Speaker 3: that movie? The crawdad saying, no, Kevin Spacey, the usual suspect.

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Speaker 2: Ah okay, yeah, spoiler

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Speaker 1: Alert for forty years if you haven't seen that final

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Speaker 1: scene