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Speaker 1: Ash. It's not very often that we hear blokes talking

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Speaker 1: about their journey with IVF.

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Speaker 2: And this bonus episode we get to do that.

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Speaker 3: Matt with NRL front rower Aaron Woods, or Woodsey as

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Speaker 3: he's known.

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Speaker 1: Were you nervous going into this episode? Because he's a

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Speaker 1: manly player he is. You're a big Manley fan. Were

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Speaker 1: you starstruck at all? Ash?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Were you?

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Speaker 1: Nah? Woodsy's had quite a career. He's played for the

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Speaker 1: West Tigers, Cornella Sharks and the Bulldogs. But today we're

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Speaker 1: diving into his life off the field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Woods.

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Speaker 3: He is a father of three, with two kids conceived

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Speaker 3: via IVF and one naturally. He's married to the lovely

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Speaker 3: Sarah Woods.

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Speaker 1: Growing up as an only child in a single parent household,

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Speaker 1: Woodsey was living above a news agency in the inner

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Speaker 1: and Aunties while his mother worked.

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Speaker 3: His upbringing has clearly influenced his approach to fatherhood. Now

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Speaker 3: he's a hands on dad to Buster almost fire of

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Speaker 1: That's right, and today will be delving into how Woodsy

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Speaker 1: and Sarah decided that IVF was the right path for them,

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Speaker 1: and the challenges they face and how they supported each

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Speaker 3: It all, and how his experience growing up has shaped

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Speaker 1: Ash, shall we get into it, my friend?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to three Dotting Dads.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mattie Jay, I'm Ash and I'm Aaron Woods.

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Speaker 1: And this is a podcast that it's all about parenting.

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Speaker 1: It's the good, it is the bad and the relatable.

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Speaker 1: And we've found out recently that the only time any

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Speaker 1: advice is given is on these episodes where we have

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Speaker 3: It's unintentional advice, usually Matt. So we'll see what we

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Speaker 3: get today. We've got Aaron Woods, of course from current

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Speaker 1: I have been called a radio sensation.

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Speaker 4: Now you just do my best.

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Speaker 2: Just put it on your LinkedIn radio sensation?

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Speaker 1: Do you mind? I can I call you Woodsy?

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Speaker 4: Call me whatever you want?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, don't tempt him?

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Speaker 4: Could be anything here?

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Speaker 1: Would you want to look at you now? And I

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Speaker 1: don't mean to pass you where you go whilst you're

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Speaker 1: in front of me, but you seem like a very

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Speaker 1: much an alpha male.

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean buster, that's why he went nuts. A

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Speaker 2: dog with nazis like someone's coming to contest me. A

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Speaker 2: and that.

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Speaker 1: That's a compliment to you as a person. And people

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Speaker 2: The reason I have a beard is because I've got

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Speaker 2: I got it's good.

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Speaker 4: It's easy to spot your games.

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Speaker 1: But when you were a youngster, we always like a

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Speaker 1: real bloke.

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Speaker 2: He bloke, Yeah, I was so. I don't really know

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Speaker 2: school like you know, when you're eating dinner, I wanted

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Speaker 2: And the only the reason I eat food is for sauce,

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Speaker 4: So he was real, real old school, was he was?

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Speaker 2: He just like I said, was the army.

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Speaker 2: But put it this way, like if I got in

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Speaker 1: I find that a lot of people who do have

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Speaker 2: I always wanted to have kids young and like, I

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Speaker 2: Well, so my NN worked for family daycare, so we'd

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Speaker 4: And so when I was with my mum growing up,

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Speaker 2: So it was like you could play foot in the park,

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Speaker 1: Do you think it helped you at all with your

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Speaker 4: They were different, like they were like they were like

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Speaker 2: But no, it didn't give you confidence in being able

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did you feel like a little brothers and they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was always the one that, like, you know,

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Speaker 4: Go get that, you know what?

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Speaker 2: I like, I was the guinea pig. Can you jump

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Speaker 1: Arc official land.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you just put your.

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Speaker 3: Just the like you said, this artificial land, absolutely just

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Speaker 3: making you do the things that they just didn't want

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I see that in my kids now, Like my older

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Speaker 2: I just makes it just a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: Yeah I get yeah. Sure.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember where you met Sarah you're now wife.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, like we've always been in the same spots

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Speaker 2: So a couple of times I'd go to birthday parties

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Speaker 2: And then funny thing is like turn around. I think

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Speaker 4: So sneaking. Yeah, a porky pie, but it was okay.

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Speaker 4: She rings me up? Can you just you know I'm.

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Speaker 2: And then like so all I'm thinking is like, I'm

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Speaker 2: She sits down and she starts like looks like she's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, done haven. It's probably the worst they've ever made.

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Speaker 4: But once you see my head, I'm just I'm not

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Speaker 2: I want to get it done otherwise I'll be sweating

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Speaker 2: up shoot himself for next week. So I take it

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Speaker 1: Started at ice cream, come back to ice exactly exactly.

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Speaker 4: And then we brought a house.

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Speaker 2: You like her, So I was like, why do we

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Speaker 2: go check out our house? And like she goes, no,

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Speaker 2: So we end up walking past and then we walked

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Speaker 2: I've got to wait for this, pretend on menas a

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Speaker 4: And she's like, hurry up, mate, you're making a gig

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Speaker 2: Day, mate, And then she's like, what the hell, like

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Speaker 2: like she had told me, I don't want to ruin this.

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Speaker 2: I've been off your week.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, what's part of the surprise, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: It's hard for be off you now. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: Kids where you like settle in for six kids.

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Speaker 4: I love that. Sis Up to her, we go, how.

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Speaker 1: Did that conversation come about? Like when you've got to

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Speaker 2: So so Sarah wanted to have a house first.

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Speaker 2: And then she always wanted to be married first, so

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Speaker 4: It was funny story.

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Speaker 2: I got married on the Friday and on Monday, I

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Speaker 4: So I was away for seven weeks.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, straight to England. Yeah, but then she obviously

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Speaker 2: So but then on that we so I just spoke

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Speaker 1: And did you in your mind did you think this

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Speaker 2: At the start, I was like, oh, how cool we're

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Speaker 2: like and how many people try so hard, how many

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Speaker 2: And you know there'll be times where she should get

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Speaker 4: That's it. That's it.

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Speaker 2: And then her obstetricians, who's like, she's outstanding, it's one

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Speaker 2: You know, you become a big game player, you sign

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Speaker 2: I just felt heaps happy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't happy to do us, like, yeah, it

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Speaker 3: the media too. There was so much going on and

441
00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,320
Speaker 3: then yeah, you it must have been a big relief

442
00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,000
Speaker 3: to go somewhere where it's like Okay, I feel like

443
00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,760
Speaker 3: I've got a fresh start. Yep, especially with the pressure

444
00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,560
Speaker 3: you've got of like trying to start a family and

445
00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:10,400
Speaker 3: it's not happening.

446
00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,560
Speaker 2: And that's the thing, like people will just see you

447
00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,119
Speaker 2: for that eighty minutes every week, Like I don't know

448
00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,679
Speaker 2: what you go through throughout the week, Like if your

449
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,520
Speaker 2: missus had a miscarriage, you know what, you'd be broke

450
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,840
Speaker 2: up with someone or whatnot.

451
00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was pretty hard off the field.

452
00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,320
Speaker 2: There was a couple of times like I just didn't

453
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,840
Speaker 2: go home, like there's my missus and I was just

454
00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,760
Speaker 2: sitting in the park. I'm like what am I doing myself?

455
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,919
Speaker 2: Like this is torture. And then, like I said, it

456
00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,160
Speaker 2: was like literally I went to Kana, so I went

457
00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,360
Speaker 2: to Bulldogs training.

458
00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,879
Speaker 4: In the morning. My manager Ringing goes, we've got the release.

459
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,720
Speaker 2: So straight from Bulldogs training, had to go to a

460
00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,320
Speaker 2: manager's office get the It was like a piece of

461
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,800
Speaker 2: paper that you're leaving bulldogs, take it back to the Bulldogs.

462
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,359
Speaker 2: Then the sign it and then went straight to Krana

463
00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,600
Speaker 2: that quick, that day, that quick, that quick, and then

464
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,639
Speaker 2: it was just done, like and it was like what

465
00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,800
Speaker 2: a weight off the shoulders. And the thing was that

466
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,639
Speaker 2: I had a lot of blokes that paid rep footy

467
00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 2: with so it was like it was like I was already.

468
00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:00,680
Speaker 4: Been for a long time.

469
00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,199
Speaker 3: Did any club like offer to provide you any like

470
00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:03,919
Speaker 3: mental support?

471
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,200
Speaker 4: Oh, they always do, but you know when you're young.

472
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,960
Speaker 2: I was only twenty five, twenty six this time, I

473
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,560
Speaker 2: think I'm thinking invincible, who does that stuff?

474
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like it's all like, yeah, not to

475
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:15,920
Speaker 4: talk about it.

476
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,840
Speaker 2: I didn't really talk about to my mates, to be honest,

477
00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,639
Speaker 2: with only a couple of coasemtes I went to school with.

478
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,120
Speaker 2: They that an one's knew the id struggling. Yeah, but yeah,

479
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,800
Speaker 2: it's like it's sort of like, yeah, like the clubs

480
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,639
Speaker 2: were good, Like I'm not going to back the clubs

481
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,320
Speaker 2: because they've got like they've got a counselor. Then yeah,

482
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 2: they've got people everywhere and they always come to you, like,

483
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 2: how you been going, how's your.

484
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 4: Own good to hear?

485
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, we heard that from Maxico and we had and

486
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 3: he was talking about it a lot with the young

487
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,160
Speaker 3: players coming through and that there is support for them

488
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,439
Speaker 3: that like these days, which is really good to hear.

489
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 2: When your obstration has said one, don't you try?

490
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 4: I yeah? What was your next for me?

491
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 2: It was like as long as it makes Sarah happy,

492
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 2: like as long as she's into it, like I'll back

493
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 2: one hundred percent.

494
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah you know, and so yeah, so she was keen.

495
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 2: So we did with IVF of Australia, which is I

496
00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 2: think they were at Alexandria.

497
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 4: Yep, are there only a new building?

498
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 1: Do you want not to sound really ignorant here to

499
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 1: ask anything?

500
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:04,119
Speaker 2: Man?

501
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: We were that annoying couple where we kind of first

502
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,920
Speaker 1: one was an accident, the second one happened pretty quick.

503
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,160
Speaker 1: So then if you're trying for two years, do you then,

504
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 1: like do you get your eggs tested or your sperm test?

505
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,919
Speaker 4: I got a sperm tested.

506
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 2: Like that's the hardest thing, man, because you're like you

507
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 2: do it, Like I said, you need to do it

508
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 2: at home or.

509
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 4: You go do it. I did in there.

510
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 2: But there's.

511
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 4: There's like a brown chair, like how many blokes out

512
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 4: of that?

513
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 2: There's no chance I sat down on that thing, but

514
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 2: you stood. I stood up, and they had like this

515
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 2: old TV is not using that TV was put your leg.

516
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 2: And then it's funny. The lady that gives you the

517
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 2: she gives you like a jar, and You're like, oh,

518
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 2: she knows what I'm going to about it. She probably

519
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 2: she probably no luck. I did get the good luck,

520
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 2: but she was so straight faced, like didn't give me

521
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 2: any n behind it, and I was like yeah, sweet.

522
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 2: And then the good thing was I don't have to

523
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 2: give the jar back to her. You got to take

524
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 2: it back to this other room and give it to

525
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 2: them to a stranger.

526
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: You do like a urine test, but handed back.

527
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 2: And the worst thing is it's like six ladies just

528
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 2: sitting there in the waiting line, and then they go aaron.

529
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 4: They were watching me was like wank off and I

530
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: was just like, please don't make it. I'll be rattled.

531
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 2: So you get that done because they just wanted to

532
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: test me first. That's the first thing you got to do.

533
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 1: And then I would feel like that's a test of

534
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 1: my as strong as my manhood.

535
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 2: I wonder how many guys go in and come out

536
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 2: and go couldn't do it. Wait, I've heard of a

537
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 2: couple of guys that had to get like hormones put

538
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 2: into them and they still got nothing. Oh my god.

539
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 3: It's similar like when you have a sax maybe I've had.

540
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: They're like, you have to come back and get a test.

541
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 3: I still haven't been back. I'm still afraid to wanking

542
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 3: around it.

543
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 2: But then you get the core probably a couple of

544
00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 2: days later, and then like, talk about this rollercoaster, right,

545
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 2: so then they go, yeah, sperm's perfect, like it's sweet.

546
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: Then miss like, oh so it's definitely me. I'm like, yeah, mad,

547
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 2: and then my miss is like, oh so it's me.

548
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: Oh fuck yeah, how do you deal with that?

549
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's all right, Like we're here to help

550
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 2: each other out, like you know, you know, it is

551
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 2: what it is, like, there's not much we can do

552
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: about it how we were born, but we're going to

553
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 2: try revenue to try a kid like it's it might

554
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: not be easy, but you know, I said, you're lucky.

555
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: You got it accidentally. Some people have to try even

556
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: harder than what we have to try. So we go

557
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: and do the the IV. Yeah, that's the hard process. Man, Like,

558
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 2: all right, my missus, so we were busted. Were very

559
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: lucky we got him first go. But the process to

560
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: get the eggs out and that, that's like.

561
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 4: So I had to inject the missus.

562
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: It's sort of like an EpiPen, and you've got to

563
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 2: you speak to your obstecution how much meals you put in,

564
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 2: and then like you gotta twist it's a bit more,

565
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 2: and then you put it. It's got to do it

566
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 2: for from the belly button to the pelvis. Oh wow, yeah,

567
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 2: you just got to the first coup. I've never done

568
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: a needle before. Boys, you had to do it. So

569
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: I helped her like, yeah, I'm here to help her. Yeah,

570
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: And I didn't put it hard enough, so I had

571
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: to needle her again. Oh man, I was nervous doing it.

572
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: I was like, listen, I'm like shaking with because you're right, Yeah,

573
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: obviously I've got no problem with needles, but.

574
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 4: Someone else completely different.

575
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: Boys, how often do you have to do that?

576
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 4: She had to do it.

577
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 2: I think it was for like twenty something days and

578
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: then the last every yeah, every By the end of it,

579
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: you shirt spin it on your hand. You know it's fine,

580
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: So you had to do like we did it at eight

581
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: thirty or nine o'clock at night for the first one,

582
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 2: and then we had footy games, so halftime with our games,

583
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: mum missles would go to the toilet and have to

584
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 2: inject themselves. Oh, no one knew, Like, we didn't tell anyone.

585
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: We do an idea, so we didn't tell no one,

586
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: Like it was just between us two.

587
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: Why is that?

588
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: She just wanted to keep it because she thought if

589
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: she told it, like we love her mom, Mum's the

590
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: best ever, but that'd always be like enough time my mom.

591
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: They'd be like, oh, how are you going? Like we

592
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: just did' want that extra like sure, yeah, it has

593
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 2: it all going there expectations. Yeah, So we just kept

594
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: it to ourselves. And then yeah, so she got halftime

595
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: or whatever time nine o'clock, you know, even were playing

596
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: in the games, audio toilet and boom inject herself. So yeah,

597
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 2: she did that for twenty or thirty days and then

598
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 2: the last one. It's called a trigger shot needle. It's

599
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 2: like a big needle. But I did say that again, boys,

600
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: I shipped myself an I put it in, but then

601
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 2: I didn't squeeze enough out and I pulled it out.

602
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: They're still a little bit left in my gods, the

603
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: poor thing. And you look at like her belly from

604
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: like the pelvis to the belly, but it's just like

605
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: little bruises everywhere. Yeah. Man, yeah, she's so hard for them, man,

606
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: Like it sucks. Man.

607
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: So after twenty seven days of that, so they.

608
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 4: Got to get blood tests.

609
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: So they get a certain amount of blood tests and

610
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: then they got to get knocked out. So you take

611
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 2: it to the Ivy of Australia. It's just like day

612
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: surgery and then they pull the eggs out. Yeah, and

613
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: then you got to do another went into a jar again.

614
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 2: So they leave, they let the eggs sit overnight with

615
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: the sperm and see how many take into the eggs.

616
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: Easy the second time round in.

617
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 4: The jar easier, much easier.

618
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 3: I know what I'm doing on that area.

619
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: But yeah, so the second one that's probably like because

620
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: when you wake up from surgery, you've got a number

621
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: on you, so that's how many eggs they've taken out

622
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: of you. And if you got a high number, it's

623
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 2: not necessarily the best thing because sometimes you when you

624
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: leave the eggs over night, they will die.

625
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 4: So we got thirteen.

626
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 2: So we had thirteen eggs and I think eight took overnight.

627
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: So we're very lucky.

628
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: That's good.

629
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 4: That's some people only get one egg. Wow. Yeah, so yeah,

630
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 4: we were very lucky.

631
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: So if you've got eight, that means you've got like

632
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: eight goes to Yeah, so.

633
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: You know how everyone goes, Oh, every time you do

634
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: I VFG, he's got to be expensive. So it's not

635
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 2: as expensive if you get a certain amount of eggs out.

636
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 4: So because we've got eight, we don't have to.

637
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 2: Go through that whole cycle again where she's got to

638
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: get knocked out and take more eggs out.

639
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 4: All you've got to really do is.

640
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: I think just the needles on the from the pelvis

641
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: to the thing, just to get the hormones flowing.

642
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: And then what's the process. Then if she does, she

643
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: gets an egg put back inside her. Yep, how do

644
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: you know when that's.

645
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 4: So you've got to wait.

646
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: Obviously, they you know, they It's funny the doctors know

647
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: which is the stronger ones, so they put I don't

648
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: know how they know, but yeah, so you go back.

649
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: I think it's in a week's time. And then they

650
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 2: they even shown you like we got to see on

651
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: the screen like just a little like a tiny little blob. Yeah,

652
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: it was crazy. I continue the photos. My missus has

653
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 2: got it at home and they put it in here.

654
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: And then you've just got to keep getting blood tests.

655
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: I think it's every second day now. And then obviously

656
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: you take a pregnancy test, you're pregnant, But then you've

657
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: got to wait till the was it seven weeks or

658
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 2: the twelve weeks? Yeah, there's a big one in seven

659
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: weeks you got to do yeahcause you have got to

660
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: go all the time, and really it's a long process. Yeah, yeah.

661
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: And then yeah, so then you get obviously I think

662
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: the twelve weeks you can start telling people. Yeah.

663
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: So for yourself, when did you knowing that it's you know,

664
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot of potential issues, you're not in the clear.

665
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: When did you allow yourself to enjoy the thought of

666
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: being a potential.

667
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: Dab Not until I sort of seen her get bigger. Yeah,

668
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: because it's sort of like this is a g up.

669
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 2: Like we've been through a long proces. It's probably about

670
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: two and a half three years now. We're just thinking like, wow,

671
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 2: is this really happening. But then like when we got

672
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: you could notice her hormones or changing some more. Wife,

673
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: every time she's been pregnant, sick every day, yeah right,

674
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 2: worse pregnancies, man, worse pregnice, vomits and then every time

675
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: she eats she vomited up, so she'd be on like

676
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: an iron iron infusion last week.

677
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's a torture process.

678
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: Boys. But we sort of got to the twelve week

679
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: mark and then yeah, we were lucky enough. We told

680
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: her parents and my mum and it was just like, mate,

681
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. Still wasn't didn't sink until about probably the

682
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: third trimester.

683
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's buster successful. And your second was IVF

684
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: as well.

685
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 2: Yes, the second one was Coco. She was IVF. She

686
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: was six go, sixth go. Yeah, mate, So I was.

687
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: I was talking to Stir on the way and he

688
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: I was like, just so I get some like remember

689
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: how two hundred and seventy two days needling her? Oh

690
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, and then like you could imagine so like

691
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: that's just hormones just go on every which angle.

692
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 4: You could imagine. That's crazy.

693
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: One day I was like, say, I was on that

694
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: side of the table, she was over here. She chipped

695
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: over she looked at me like it was my fault.

696
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: You go, like, see obstetrician once a week, check on

697
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: a baby going good, seven week no heartbeat, so we

698
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: sort of know what that means. And don't forget this

699
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: is during COVID man so only one person go in.

700
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: So buses are the in laws. So we had to

701
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: make on the spot. You've got to cure itte straight

702
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: away because said like, you can wait another week, but

703
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: you know all.

704
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 4: The tests we done, it's no good.

705
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. So speaking of the roller coaster or back down

706
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: the bottom again? Boys, so we've been at high you know,

707
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: I thought we're pregnant again. Back down the bottom? Yeah,

708
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: with Coco on the Yeah, after that one, we tried again,

709
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: like you still got three left in there, so we

710
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: know one then we've got it.

711
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

712
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: You spoke about with your footy when yet the pressure

713
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: was on your shoulders and you're reluctant to reach out

714
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: and get help and talk about the situation with the

715
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: incident where you don't have the heartbeat?

716
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 4: Yep?

717
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: Do you have that same approach? Do you want to

718
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: talk to people about it or is it just something

719
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: that you and Sarah discover.

720
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: The hard thing about that one, right, it's a funny story.

721
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: Like, so we so that was on a Thursday, and

722
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: then on the Friday to play against Newcastle. Fuck. And

723
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: this was COVID year, so you were only allowed to

724
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: travel that Friday, so you normally would stay overnight. So

725
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: we'd do a cape on Thursday and Cranella drive up,

726
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: stay out there, you know, blah blah blah. But this

727
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: one was hard because we were strapping the ship, getting

728
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: the strapped in the sheds and then one of the

729
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: boys surely you're gonna have kids again, And the day

730
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 2: before we just had a cure out but like so innocent,

731
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: I didn't and I never spoke about it, and I

732
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: was just like, nah, no, you know, probably soon hopefully,

733
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: you know, you never know. But I told miss and

734
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: she was, oh, yes, it's not his fault, like but yeah,

735
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: like just you know. And I told him later on

736
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: down the track, like after we did have the second

737
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: he say, man, I feel so did you just make

738
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: a real feel real it was chaos?

739
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 4: He was rat on.

740
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would like insane that people just don't know

741
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: what you go through outside, and like, because we're going

742
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: through the we didn't even tell our parents again for

743
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 2: the second time. So when I did drop my missus

744
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: to for the curate on that Thursday, no one was

745
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: allowed in hospital, so that it was only when the

746
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: only the patient was allowed in must be so hard. Yeah,

747
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: So I.

748
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 4: Dropped her in eight and they said that ring me.

749
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: At three B three comes around, no answer, four, no

750
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: answer five, And I was, what the hell's going on here? Ship?

751
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: So about five point thirty six I get a call

752
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: she's ready to pick up. Oh my god, it would

753
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: have been nice to time with the thurdery was done

754
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: and yeah, and three hours you're just like, fuck, what's

755
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: going on?

756
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 4: So I wasn't even allowed to take a reception like

757
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 4: in and out.

758
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was such It must have been such a

759
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: hard time for so like for so many people go

760
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: through the same thing, especially going through that and having

761
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: on the sixth go like having to see doctors on

762
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: her own, and it must have been must have been

763
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: so stressful for her.

764
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: Well, the worst part about it boys when we did

765
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: have Coco. So that was when so we're playing on

766
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: the Saturday or Sunday against the Warriors come off at

767
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: half time. We didn't know as a playing group, but

768
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: has been shifted to Brisbane. Oh that's right, Moms is

769
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: due in two weeks.

770
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: The bubble, the bubble.

771
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: So she's on the phone making all the calls to

772
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: the obstetrician like what's going on, Like he's got to

773
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: go on Wednesday or Thursday? Can we have it beforehand?

774
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: And they're like yeah, just his small wife had to

775
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: go in that night get a couple of like steroid

776
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: needles for the baby, just for the lungs. Yeah, So

777
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: we're lucky. I remember I end up ringing Peter Landy's

778
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: up and I was like Pete mate, like because people,

779
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: he's the big NL so's you need something done?

780
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: You're in mister people and his can we get?

781
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: Isn't it's a few things? I like that?

782
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 4: Good luck.

783
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: So there was flights for the NRL on the Wednesday,

784
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: so all the players going up and if you missed

785
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: that flight you have to do two weeks quarantine. Oh yeah,

786
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: So I was stressing, like what the hell do I do?

787
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: So I ring him and he goes, yeah, mate, no problem,

788
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: I'll get I'll get back to your literally within five minutes.

789
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: He goes, mate, when.

790
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 4: Is the baby?

791
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm We were able to have it

792
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: on Wednesday, so we're getting induced tuesday night.

793
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 4: We're gonna have it wednesa day.

794
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 2: Yes, sweet, I've got a flight for your Thursday. And

795
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: I was like, what about my missus, Like, she's got

796
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: a he gus, we'll get her on the flight with

797
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: the families, and you can bring her parents as well

798
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: so she can get help because we obviously got a

799
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: two year old.

800
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: Oh wow, so that was really lucky.

801
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: He was, Yeah, like them being that flexible for for

802
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: players welfare. He was unbelievable, and like, you know what,

803
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: We're going to move heaven and earth for you so

804
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: that one can make it work.

805
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: I heard with Coco's birth you were quite involved, but

806
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: all of all three Yeah, Like so mate, I was

807
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: in there holding the legs up. What do you mean

808
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: legs up?

809
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 4: For missus? She had natural birth, so I've got like

810
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: one leg up, the other legs at.

811
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: Home, inspit in the hospital, in the hospital.

812
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 4: But hang, are.

813
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: You talking about needles making you feel queasy? And all

814
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you like.

815
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: Just giving the needle made me feel queasy. He's in

816
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: the doing tackling practice.

817
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 4: All three babies. I said the same thing with missus.

818
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 4: She was off and heavy, so that they.

819
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: Go, you want to pull the baby out?

820
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I'd love to. I hope I've

821
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 4: got better hands.

822
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: I had a train this morning.

823
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 1: Its quick offload. I couldn't. I couldn't look down there.

824
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: It was just quite as full on.

825
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: It's different but fart life boys. I was just like,

826
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: I honestly couldn't. I went in a planned C section. Okay,

827
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: I fainted during the epi dural.

828
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: What about the needle.

829
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: I didn't even see the needle I was. I was

830
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: not even looking at the needle. I was looking at

831
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: my wife and I just went, that's so bad with

832
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: my legs up.

833
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: But when they've got the needle, they're unbelievable, like.

834
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 4: Oh, doctors can do it.

835
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: Oh it's wild.

836
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: With our first April went into labor and she was like,

837
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 3: oh my god, like it was so painful epidural and

838
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: she was like, oh, I.

839
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: Was like, fuck he was when he was coming out,

840
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: he was sort of half stuckbuster so he was like

841
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: a plunger on his head.

842
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he came out like a conead.

843
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: So you helped deliver all three three yep, that.

844
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: Is why the last one was pretty.

845
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: The last one was pretty like what the umbilical cord

846
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: was like a backpack tucked around his arms and look

847
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: around his neck. I was like shooting myself and the

848
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: doctor's like, nah, so it's not tied around the neck.

849
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was like wow, like that that was

850
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: a bit confronting.

851
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: Did you only know that once barber come out?

852
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, once it come out?

853
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So once it come out, and was like, oh,

854
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: we're going to cut this cord quickly, and I was

855
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 2: like okay, sweet and then yeah, then they called.

856
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: And was your third child IV as well? It is

857
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: natural unbelievable, unbelievable. What's the year difference between the middle

858
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: of two, Like, so Busses turning four in June, turning

859
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: five in June, Coco three in July, and then Mac

860
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 3: was January, right, yeah, so January sixth or something of that,

861
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: your third one, you sort of forget.

862
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Not a bad thing,

863
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 2: but but honestly, it's yeah, they're all close in age, mate,

864
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: Like I said, holmes Ko like, yeah, for sure, it's

865
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: just different.

866
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: It's pretty it's pretty wild childbirth because not only you

867
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: know you're becoming a parent for the first time or

868
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: second time. But then also what you see your partner

869
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: mate go through. How did that change how you saw Sarah?

870
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 2: I think instantly we like we become a lot more closer,

871
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: not that we weren't close already, but just you've been

872
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: through that together and like all you've got you guys know,

873
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: like you've seen it. You've seen what your wife have

874
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: to do. Like it's not just given birth, it's the

875
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: whole process and then and then afterwards as well, like

876
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: they just become they become mums like that a overnight,

877
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: so good, Like my wife is unbelievable. I love him

878
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: and she's all my material and radio deep down, like mate,

879
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 2: she's a machine.

880
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she's the best ever.

881
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: Like she's got four kids of the house me as well,

882
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: Like she's she's a machine what she's able to do.

883
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 2: Like a funny story about so, like I said, when

884
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 2: they first become mum, they've got the best for you.

885
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: They So her brother comes in, the one that answered

886
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: the door when I first he's he's like my best mate.

887
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: Now we're we're so tight, and he's looking at a bust.

888
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 2: He looks a bit like purple. So when his best

889
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: friend her boobs because they get bigger with the milk

890
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: or the I think it's click. What's the stuff colostrum? Yeah,

891
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: her boob covered his nose as well, so he was

892
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 2: he wasn't breathing. He wasn't breathing like.

893
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: A breast.

894
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: It was like you look at the babies, man, I

895
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 2: don't think baby is not with that color.

896
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: Brother shouldn't be looking down there, sick puppy. I want

897
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: to talk about the names of your kids because they

898
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: are a bit unique, weirdn't Coco Mark Buster? How did

899
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: you come up with it?

900
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: So bust.

901
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: I've always loved it, you know. It's funny walking here today,

902
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: dogs together and my wife there, she's always in to me, like,

903
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 2: why would you name our son Buster? It's a dog's name,

904
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: And I can't wait to tell her tonight. But it

905
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: would be easy to control him. But honestly, I just

906
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: like different things. Yeah, I'm just whatever I think. Like

907
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to get my own dog and I was

908
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: going to call it Buster, but then I was like, no,

909
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: I just like Buster. So here's a cool name.

910
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: It's not that I would I would definitely associated with

911
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: a dog's name, but that doesn't matter.

912
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: Like you're like, there's so many names out there. He's

913
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: a buster, he's a pain the ass, he's a ball

914
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 2: of energy. So everyone knows, like, yeah it's Buster. Yeah,

915
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: like we go hi middle names or like Buster Bruce,

916
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: so Bruce Buster Bruce solid b b W. Yeah, but

917
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: that the meaning of the Bruce is really really cool.

918
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 2: So Sarah's father, it's his middle name, and it's Sarah's

919
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: mom's dad's name. Yeah. Yeah, so I like that.

920
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then it was nice.

921
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: It was a good touch for the family once they

922
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: come in and we told them the name because no

923
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: one knew what we're going to call them. What about

924
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 2: what about Coco? And the funny thing about with the kids,

925
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: we didn't know what we're having, so they're all surprises.

926
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: So we weren't sure co Go was my missus really

927
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: but then like you know what the worst thing is,

928
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: do you think about that this lady has just had

929
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 2: a material or you know this person you know? And

930
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: so yeah, my wife come with that one. Sarah came

931
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: with that Coco ray. I don't know where she's got

932
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: the ray from, but that's sold as well. Yeah, y Wood,

933
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: that's at fault. But the worst thing is she comes

934
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: up to me and she goes, what do you think

935
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: with this Coco bark?

936
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 4: I don't care.

937
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: As long as you're happy, I'm happy.

938
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

939
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: Someone who has come from a family with the most

940
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: beige names. We've got my family Adam, tom Case, I like,

941
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: I like a bit of spicy.

942
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: So when we had Mac, I wanted to call him Bobs.

943
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: That's a normal name. You can't do that.

944
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: Mac m A c K m A c k And

945
00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: any particular reason. Missus liked it. Yeah, and she's gone

946
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 3: through that ten month cycle. Man, So yeahs mac Aaron

947
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 3: maca Yeah.

948
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the funny is I've got like Tatto the

949
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: kids name. It's now going to get freaking tattle name. Yeah,

950
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: so you don't forget I've already got Woods.

951
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, double me.

952
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 1: One thing you said before is that before you had kids,

953
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: you always hated Father's Day. Yes, Why was that?

954
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: I just it wasn't really a day. That's sort of

955
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: like to bring up like where's my dad? If that

956
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: makes sense? Like, and I was always like not dirty,

957
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: but I was just like, man, I never like I

958
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: see like not I'm dirty, but I see my mates

959
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: with their dad, Like some of my best mates, their

960
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: their dads are their best mates. Like yeah, just see

961
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: how close they are with them. And you know at footy,

962
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: like first person I go to it was obviously my

963
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: wife or my mum, you know, and now it's my kids.

964
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 2: So like I never got to have that father figure.

965
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: I never got to go home and talked about like oh,

966
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: like you know, playing footy, and I just saw really

967
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: my mom and she'd be working all the time. So

968
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: I was like just by myself a lot. So it

969
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: was just sort of not that I was dirty, but

970
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: I'll just be like, you know, probably more upset.

971
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: You know.

972
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: I didn't really have my dad around. And then I

973
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: had my sister's dad, stepdad. He needed a good job

974
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: for a long period of time. But it's not your

975
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: real dad, you know what I mean. Like, and then

976
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: I always think, now I watch my like now that

977
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: I've had kids, like how could you walk out on

978
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: your kid at four years old? And it's like, yeah,

979
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 2: that's that's crazy. But what I've learned is I've learned

980
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: a lot of things and what not to do. So

981
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: it's been a really good lesson. And then like, mate,

982
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: may I love going home to kids, like it's my

983
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: first thing is like the thing I find hard at

984
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: the moment is like my time because I go to

985
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: footy sometimes quarter six in the morning and I want

986
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 2: it under seven thirty at night. Yeah, it's just because

987
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: you go to radio and all that afterwards, or if

988
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: you're doing some Fox stuff.

989
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say there at school, you got to with

990
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: your time with them.

991
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: It's so hard to space all that and then like

992
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: there's time I'll get out at seventh day, I'm cooked

993
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: and all they want to do is just muck around.

994
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 2: They've been waiting all day for it. And then my

995
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 2: missus wants to get to the gym. We'll do something.

996
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 2: So you've got to learn to not to be selfish,

997
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: like you know these kids, you're their idol, you know,

998
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: And that's what I missed as a kid, Like I

999
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: never had that. So like little things, a lot of

1000
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: lessons that have been really cool for me.

1001
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: Do you think then, like when you're taking and I've

1002
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: seen some footage of Buster, your first child playing footy,

1003
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: So are you parenting in a way which you're you're

1004
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: giving your child what you never had?

1005
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, like it's funny at games, he's just started

1006
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: playing footy. I'm really quiet, like I won't say nothing

1007
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: because I don't want to be that one parent.

1008
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: You know.

1009
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 4: That's sort of here he is and my missus is

1010
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 4: the one year and now going come on.

1011
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: My son started playing union now and I'm like, but

1012
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: then when we get home, he like talks about it

1013
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: a lot, and like I just try to like not,

1014
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to, Like he's five years often five,

1015
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to be saying you need to tackle

1016
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: this better.

1017
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: You.

1018
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have fun today, like maybe you were awesome?

1019
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: And I said to one missus is actually like so

1020
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: it was funny. I was on the way to radio

1021
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: and I just missed up to mate, I was so

1022
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: happy today, like just so proud of me young bloke,

1023
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: Like he was out there having fun, you know, and

1024
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: like that's all I want to see him do, and

1025
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: you know, me to be able to be there. And

1026
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: then as soon as you come off the field, he

1027
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: sprinted straight to me, Dad, You see this, Dad, You

1028
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: see that. I never had that. So I was like, man,

1029
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: I felt like that was just like a I could

1030
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: die right now, Like you know, I mean, this is

1031
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: so a complete moment. This is what being a dad's

1032
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: all about. And that's like things I didn't get when

1033
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: I was a kid. So little moments like that, you

1034
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: sort of not that I make a big deal of him,

1035
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: but I'm like, oh this.

1036
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 4: Is really cool.

1037
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1038
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1039
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: A lot of people they message us on Instagram and

1040
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: they say, you know, my partner didn't have a dad.

1041
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: He's worried how he's going to parent. But I think

1042
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: it's such a nice example. They can go either way.

1043
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you know, because you think you're you're

1044
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: behave in a way that you were taught. But it's

1045
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: funny like you're just doing well you never had that's it.

1046
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then like I'll tell you wane to thing.

1047
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: But before I had Buster, I mattered like anxiety attack

1048
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: a yeah, like two nights before because I was like, man,

1049
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 2: I've got to look after a kid now, Like it's

1050
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: just a changing.

1051
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 4: Life's not about you anymore.

1052
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: It's about It's about It's about yeah, so like and

1053
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: you want to be there, like like I don't be

1054
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 2: one of those dads. It doesn't change nappies, it doesn't

1055
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: feed you know, a little fellow, or you always shower

1056
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: and NonStop. So it's like your whole like mindset just

1057
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: changes I know, it's that that moment letting out be

1058
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: like for that nine months you kind of think it's happening, yes,

1059
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: but you always have those little moments you're like, fuck,

1060
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: this is surreal. Even now you've got three.

1061
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: Some days you're like you might be driving to the

1062
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: office or driving the radio, driving a footy training and

1063
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: you're like, oh shit, holy shit.

1064
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: Mate, And me and Sir always say, like we've got

1065
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 2: three kids, like this is like like it is chaos,

1066
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 2: but it is the best chaos.

1067
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: We've ever had.

1068
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't have any other one. Like we've got

1069
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 2: some mates that like have been trying and they're going

1070
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: through some you know, because we are very open about

1071
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: the IVF Like if anyone even anyone listening, you want

1072
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: to reach out, I'll talk to anyone about it.

1073
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, just try to help someone.

1074
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: We've helped probably about four or five people we know

1075
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: and they've had kids now, you know. And that was

1076
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: just for speaking about it, you know, Like he said,

1077
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: with the footy, I wouldn't talk about my issues because

1078
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: I thought it was a bit a bit soft.

1079
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 4: Now I just talked about everything. I couldn't get less.

1080
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: You know, what I reckon will be a perfect job

1081
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: for you down the track being an obstetrician.

1082
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: You mentioned chaos before, and you've mentioned to me you've

1083
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: got Coco who loves Coco loves the tantrum.

1084
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: Oh mate, So like the boys are outstanding, but like

1085
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: buses at an age can go listen, man, just shut

1086
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: up and let's just be quiet. Coco, she's a three,

1087
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 2: right three. She was like her own person. For example,

1088
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: last night, literally we're doing dinner. So my wife Sarah

1089
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: makes beautiful dinners for these kids, like forget that when

1090
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Speaker 2: I was a kid, I'll be like, this is a

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Speaker 2: grouse had like mad pasta and chicken, and then Coco

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00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: is like she just picks it up with a spoon

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00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: and yuck dad. I'm like, it's beautiful. I had something

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00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: like it's really nice. And she goes, yuck dad and

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00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 2: puts it on the ground and wait, do that, Like please,

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Speaker 2: don't do that.

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Speaker 4: She looks at me and she goes and does it

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Speaker 4: real slow and then.

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Speaker 2: He drops it and I'm like that and I'm like, mate,

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Speaker 2: like if that's bust, I'm going.

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Speaker 4: Off my head.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she has got me wrapped around her finger

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00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 2: and it just kills me. And I go Sarah, you're up,

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Speaker 2: You're up. You can get this girl.

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Speaker 3: Just the blank stare when they're doing it too, Like

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Speaker 3: my my daughter's coming up to three. And you know,

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Speaker 3: if it was Oscar, same thing, I'd be stuck into him.

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Speaker 3: But with her, she'll be like throw the playoff the table.

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Speaker 2: And then she's found these things and my watch, Sarah

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Speaker 2: will tell her something and she will roll her eyes

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00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: and like no, one doesn't happen. So I'm like, and Sarah,

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Speaker 2: did you see that? And I was like, I didn't

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Speaker 2: see it. I'm just laughing. It's always good and it's

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Speaker 2: not me.

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Speaker 4: Back to the tantrums.

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Speaker 2: So we've taken to the movies one day at Miranda Westfields,

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00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: and then Sarah wanted to go, let's just a little

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Speaker 2: bit of shopping afterwards, and then like you got kids, like,

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Speaker 2: they see one thing in the aisle and they want

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Speaker 2: and I was.

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Speaker 4: Like, oh, we'll get at the end.

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Speaker 2: No what now, dad, Yeah, I'm gonna stay strong here,

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Speaker 2: stay strong, and then if you're good, we'll get it

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Speaker 2: at the end. And they literally we walk off and

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Speaker 2: then I turn back. She's on the ground screaming, crying,

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Speaker 2: So I just picked her up by hand, and just

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00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: grabbed her.

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Speaker 4: And we walked straight out to see her.

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Speaker 2: We've got no gun chopping like that in the car.

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Speaker 4: She goes, sorry, Daddy, and she's just sweet. She's back

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Speaker 4: normal for me.

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Speaker 2: She's she's a she's a throw herself on the ground

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00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 2: sort of girl. Mate, throw things at you mate, like

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Speaker 2: just and so like.

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Speaker 4: Buster is a big softy like he's.

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Speaker 2: And the thing we Busty is he's a big kid,

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00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: like obviously me being tall, he's a lot tall. He's

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00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: got real thick hair. So everyone's like, oh, what's is

1139
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: he a lot older than five? Like they always saying

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Speaker 2: he's like seven even when he was younger. They thought

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00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: he was like five when he was two because he

1142
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: could move around, but he couldn't really speak as well

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Speaker 2: because he's only two. But so like she will just

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00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: whack him and he's like, Dad, she whacked me, And.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, she shouldn't be doing this. You're bigger, you can't.

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00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: No, he didn't go even when you're as angry as

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00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: you're possible. No, you just tell her no coco and

1148
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: he goes, Dad, I went.

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00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 4: No cocoa, and she slapped me again.

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00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: But he does these things now, like that'll run around

1151
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: and he'll just ankle tap her from behind, and I

1152
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: was like, man, why do you do that? Like the

1153
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: house is nice and quiet, just the center and I

1154
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: just and then the we call her the Shenny. I

1155
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: don't know why, but that's her nickname in the house.

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00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: My missus called it a shenny. So and the Shenny

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00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: just gets set off and it's just a long night

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00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: after that with Buster. Are you his favorite footy player?

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00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: No?

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00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: Who is it?

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00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 4: That's a winger of all people. So that come from

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00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: the COVID year.

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00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: So so when we did have cocoa, I had to

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00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: leave the next day fly away. Then my wife did

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00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 2: two weeks quarantine. I think it was a week later

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00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: she did. Still to this day she goes if she

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00:48:58,560 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: knew the herd it was going to be, she would

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00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,479
Speaker 2: never came because that was when remember I think James

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00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 2: Roberts had the smoke.

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Speaker 4: They had to lock up the windows.

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00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 2: She had two kids and a two parents in one room. Wow,

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Speaker 2: So she's taken a few of the teams, Sarah. So

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Speaker 2: we're saying that an overtoil Brisbane South Bank, which was

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00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: really good, like it was an unreal spot. But the

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00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: hard thing was so it was like it was myself,

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Speaker 2: Sarah and two kids just in a normal hotel room

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Speaker 2: like one bed, one shower.

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00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 4: That was it. We weren't able to get.

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00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: Because she could only bring up one bag for the plane,

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00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: so we basically all Coco's baby closed were still home,

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00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: so we would just vacuum bag and use it for

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00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: Mac now.

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00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 4: But it was hard, and then we were staying with.

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00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: So in that hotel was Sharks, Dragons, tigers and the referees.

1185
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 2: It's got the worst club. And then so the boys

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00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: would like that would grab a buster some days. Can

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00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: we take it a part? Yeah, gave for gold, but

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00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 2: my dad get him chocolate milkshakes. I'd get him chips

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Speaker 2: like every day. And you know it's like kids made.

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00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: They can't probably understand, like they get constipated.

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Speaker 4: It's another problem my boys.

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00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: He's up on the milkshakes and the chiefs just give

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00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: him some water or something. Yeah, and they come back

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00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: the last lady that afternoon and they're like, oh, this

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00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: is great heaven mate.

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00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 4: So that's loved all the sharks.

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00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: So and to this day he still supports the Sharks.

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Speaker 2: Now I encourage I want him to like if you've

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Speaker 2: got something, mate, you do what you think is right.

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00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 2: The worst thing is my missus put him in the

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00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 2: Sharks Jersey. So last year was good, made it mainly

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00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: so we beat him once and lost him once. So

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00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 2: but when we lost him, we lost him at brook

1204
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: Fale and I broke my hand that day. So I

1205
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: was already off the world because we've got to get

1206
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 2: surgery blah blah. And then he comes into Sharks Jersey.

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Speaker 2: But the boys are awesome. They love him, like even

1208
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: like the clubs I've been at with when you've got kids,

1209
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: it's unreal. Every So every game I packed his budget

1210
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: smugglers and we're a Brookie because he comes in the

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00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: part of the hot baths and the cold bathroom and.

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Speaker 4: The boys love him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yea, before you go, woulds he? When I see

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Speaker 1: one last question? When you are a much older man

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00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: and your your children are no longer living at home,

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00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 1: what's the one thing you want them to remember about

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00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: the house they grew up in.

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00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: Sort of liked that it was the halfway house, like

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00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: that that anyone was welcome to come in, you know,

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00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: it was a place where everyone could feel like they

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00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 2: were at home.

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00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 4: You know, like say if he was bringing mates from

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00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 4: footy or school.

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00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 2: You know, my missus no, bless her, she'd be making

1225
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 2: snacks for him. They get away with whatever they want

1226
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 2: to our house and just to never be like scared

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00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: to bring someone there, like whether it's your mate, your missus, whatever,

1228
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: cooker to bring her girlfriends, whatever, just some place that

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00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 2: they felt safe at and then everyone was always welcome.

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00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 4: That's that's the place that you know.

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00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: That's what I had when I was going up and

1232
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: because we lived I lived in like art in Nounton

1233
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 2: Street and we're on top of the paper shop, and

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00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: that was just the halfway house. The boys used to just.

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00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 4: Come there all the time. They didn't even come there

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00:51:59,120 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 4: when I wasn't there.

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00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: A safe home, Yeah, a safe home if their mates

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00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: are struggling, if they haven't need a place. Obviously tell

1239
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: your parents where you are. But yeah, just a place

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00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: where you can enjoy your time, enjoy each other's company.

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00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, No, thank you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, thank you for coming on, jumping on and

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00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 3: giving us, giving.

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00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: Us a spiel about your kids. We really appreciate time.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having its awesome.

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00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 3: Matt funchat with Woodsy as always great.

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00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 2: Guy, he's just total off to training. I reckon, do

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Speaker 2: you know who?

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Speaker 1: He reminds me of? A big, burly, strong lumberjack who

1250
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: could crush me with his hand.

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Speaker 2: I'm here to my seed.

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Speaker 3: before you speak one more beautiful word about that now.

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Speaker 1: I think I do want to say. The Facebook group,

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Speaker 1: it is growing slowly, but surely there's a few people

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Speaker 1: Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country

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Speaker 1: throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community.

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Speaker 3: We pay our respects to their elders past and present,

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Speaker 3: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraight Islander

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