1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yor 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: the Order Kerni Whaltbury and a waddery woman. And before 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country, 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: and the storytelling of you to make a difference for 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: today and lasting impact for tomorrow. 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: She's on the Money. She's on the Money. 12 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: that let's you be pervy about other people's money stories 14 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 4: for educational purposes, of course. Welcome back to another one 15 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 4: of our Money Diaries episodes where I get the absolute 16 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 4: privilege of sitting down and talking to one of our 17 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: beautiful She's on the Money community members all about their journey. 18 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 4: Let's jump straight into it, because this week I got 19 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 4: a message and it sounded exactly like this, Dear She's 20 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 4: on the Money. We grew up quite poor and it 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 4: was especially bad in high school. I remember Dad couldn't 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 4: afford our textbooks or my school fees. My parents each 23 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: worked two jobs and we'd go with mom and dad 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 4: every school night to their second job, cleaning offices. I've 25 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: been trying to overcome my scarcity mindset, and in the 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 4: last two years, thanks to She's on the money, I 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 4: have savings for the first time, I've invested for the 28 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 4: first time in shares, and I was able to help 29 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 4: my parents while they were overseas getting treatment for my 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: mum money diarists. 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: That was a fit emotional. 32 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. Yeah, I just feel like there's a 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 4: lot to unpack there, like not only are you a 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: super special person, but like mom and dad working two 35 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 4: jobs and like cleaning offices, Like what Queen and king 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: are they? 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: Like? 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: I just feel like they're the types of pearance that 39 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 4: you just know love the shit out of their kids. 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 4: Oh that's so special money doce. I want to ask 42 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: so many questions before we get there, though, What would 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: you grade your money habits if I asked you to 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: give them a grade from A through TOIR? 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm going to say a C, and I 46 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: only say that because the last like eighteen years of 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: my life have been like really bad scarcity mindset, kind 48 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: of like not really saving. It's something been in the 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: last two years, maybe last year, that I've been able 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: to turn it around. So I'm basing that grade like overall, Yeah. 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: I can already see why you have a scarcity mindset 52 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: and how challenging it would be to move on from that, 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 4: Like it's just so ingrained in everything that you do, 54 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 4: and even the fact that you want to talk about it, 55 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: like it's so special. So let's just dive in. Can 56 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: you tell me a little bit more about your money story. 57 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we grew up family six. We lived in 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: a three bedroom house, nothing fancy. It was my older 59 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: sister in one room and then me and my two 60 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: other siblings in another. We had a bunk bed and 61 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: single bed kind of like side my side, and we'd 62 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: make little thoughts so. 63 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 4: Cute though and good memories. 64 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: I don't really remember much in terms of like childhood 65 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: distresses there. It was more when we got into high school, 66 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: Dad not being able to afford our textbooks, let us 67 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: be sent home about school fees being over due. Just 68 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: like this memory that sticks out in my head. And 69 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: every time I think about it, I get a bit 70 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: worked up. Because Dad couldn't afford the textbooks, and my 71 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: sister was two grades above us. We were re using 72 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: her Italian workbook and obviously she'd written in it, and 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: I decided to like liquid paper over it or like 74 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: rub out where she'd written it. And I was like 75 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: so embarrassed that I had this like secondhand workbook and 76 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: everybody had these like pristine white new work books. And 77 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: that was like really triggering for me. 78 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 4: I feel like that it's always the small things, right, 79 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: Like it's always the small things that you remember that 80 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 4: really had an impact. And that doesn't mean that we 81 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: need to do all the small things right as parents, 82 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 4: right because we honestly are doing our best. It's always 83 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 4: that sticking point, right, Like I even remember like way back, 84 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: you know, definitely not a similar situation, but a sticking 85 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: point for me. I desperately wanted the school bag, like 86 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 4: the one with the logo on it. I didn't just 87 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: want a Kmart school bag, which is what I had. 88 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 4: I wanted the school bag that every other kid had. 89 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 4: And one was like that is a waste of money, 90 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: Like absolutely not, We're not getting that, and I'm still like, oh, 91 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: I just wanted to feel like I had the same 92 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: school bag from my public primary school that everybody else had, 93 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: but I just had plainline. It was fine, and like 94 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: all of that worked, but it's always that that sticking 95 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: point that you think everybody is paying attention to, but 96 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 4: I can promise you they're not. But for you, that 97 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: was pivotal. 98 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: Even the embarrassment of like, oh, we have Ali snacks. 99 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to shop at Aldi. That's so embarrassing. 100 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: And now I'm like freaking our I love a healthy. 101 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's all about mindset, right because as a 102 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: kids like you don't have a lot of markers of 103 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: what success looks like. You don't have the ability to 104 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: step up and be like okay, yeah, but like you're 105 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: just saying, and like I have in my head the 106 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 4: bi low packets of chips, like I remember those and 107 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 4: being oh, kind of have the Smiths one. They're like 108 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: completely printed and all pink, and like kind of have 109 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: that in my lunch box. It's the same thing. Like 110 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: you best believe my kids are also not getting their 111 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: name brand chips. It's just not happening, Like that's not 112 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: an option. So yeah, it's so interesting. So what happened 113 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 4: after that? Like how did life go? 114 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 2: So they really struggled. So they got to a point 115 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: I think we're in like ye eight Mas twenty and 116 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 2: I were in the eight you know, nine, were the 117 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: youngest of the four girls. They started having to pick 118 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: up a second job, and we would go with them 119 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: every night to do these like night jobs, and Mum 120 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: would say, if you just help us, we'll get it 121 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: done faster and we'll be able to get out of here. 122 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: But we were just these like young kids and all 123 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: like whatever, and we'd potter around and not really help. 124 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: And so like the second jobs will run until like 125 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: eleven pm midnight, they'd go home, sleep and be up 126 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: by like five am to get to their day jobs. 127 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: Mum would commute into the eastern subbs, which was like 128 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: an hour and a half two buses and a train 129 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: to clean and then come back. Dad worked in a factory. See, 130 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: it was really hard and I actually found out I 131 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: don't why. 132 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 4: I'm going to self that thank you for being so 133 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: vulnerable the toll of like the financial stresses. 134 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: Dad actually did have a mini stroke during that time 135 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: that we didn't find out about until just a couple 136 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: of years ago. But Dad, now he's like, of course 137 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 2: I was stressed about money, but I was doing it 138 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: for my future and for your future. It's now like okay, 139 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: but it doesn't hurt any less knowing that he was 140 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: under that much press that he would have a mini stroke. 141 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: That's a lot. That feels like a really heavy burden, 142 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 4: that feels like you are probably feeling really guilty. Yes, 143 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 4: there's no guilt there, Like I can promise if I 144 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: sat down your parents and said would you do it again? 145 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 4: They'd say, hands down, absolutely, Like I already know they'd 146 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: be like, oh my goodness, we love our kids so 147 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: much more than we could ever explain, and we are 148 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 4: so insanely proud of them. They probably look at you 149 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: and go, that's why we did what we did, Like 150 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: they don't regret it for a date. And I think 151 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: that by carrying guilt it does nothing like it literally, 152 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 4: like guilt is an emotion that you feel because you 153 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 4: feel like you should have done something different or changed, 154 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: but you've still got a beautiful relationship with your parents, 155 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 4: Like it's not as though you lost that. In fact, 156 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: I feel like they've instilled this beautiful work ethic into you. 157 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: That is so nice, and like, I know that it 158 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: feels heavy, but like, I'm just so grateful that you 159 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: still have your dad here, Like, oh, I'm sorry that 160 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: it is so heavy, but I'm just so grateful that 161 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: you've been so vulnerable and actually want to share this 162 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: because it's so so hard to talk about too, right 163 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 4: it is. Yeah, so obviously all of that happened. What 164 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: happened when you turned eighteen? Like, when did you get 165 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: your first job? Tell me all about that. 166 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: So, my first job was at the cinemas. I applied 167 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: when I was fifteen. That's a cool girl job, the 168 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: best job I've ever had, hands down. I tell my 169 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: little niece, she's thirteen, I say, go and work at 170 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: the cinema. It is so much fun. That was my 171 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: first job. It's actually where I met my now de 172 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: Fucto partner. 173 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, love. 174 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: But I wasn't very good at saving back then either. 175 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: So things haven't really turned around until I started listening 176 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: to She's on the money, But that's okay. 177 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 4: We were just on our own journey. Yeah, so talk 178 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: to me about that. So you got your first job 179 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 4: at the cinema and then you turned eighteen, did you 180 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 4: change jobs, Like, what does that career trajectory look like? 181 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: I didn't go to UNI just because I was like, oh, 182 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: I think i'd rather work. So I got a job 183 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: in a magazine company. 184 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: Very cool. 185 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: Then from there I went to the equivalent of like 186 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: a group on. Then we got bought out by Groupon. 187 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,359 Speaker 2: Then I was made redundant. 188 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's so stressful. 189 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and now I'm in the job that I 190 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: was at after I was made redundant. I've been there 191 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: for years now. 192 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 4: And so tell me what do you do for work now? 193 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: And how much do you earn? 194 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 2: Yeah? So I'm a product manager for a tech company 195 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: in the food industry. I earn one hundred thousand a year, 196 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: and I just as on Monday, actually got a twenty 197 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: percent pay rise. 198 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, what in this economy? I joined tom pay 199 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 4: rise iconic. 200 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: I hadn't had one in many, many years. I'd actually 201 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: transitioned from a role within the company into product management. 202 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and they haven'tted up. So they've been a 203 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: little cheeky, very very grateful to get that, very privileged. 204 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: So now that takes me to one twenty. 205 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 4: Look at you go. Did you ever think you'd earn 206 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: over one hundred grand. Like that's pretty cool, right, No way. 207 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: I remember when we brought our house in two thousand 208 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: and eleven, I was earning. I would think I was 209 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: on like forty grand at the magazine company. I could 210 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: barely with my month's wages cover my repayment. 211 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: But you did it. Yeah, Just like look at your 212 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: money story. And we don't even know the half of 213 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 4: it yet, but like, look at your money story in 214 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: comparison to your parents, Like what a bloody privilege the 215 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: sacrifices they made meant that you got here. And I 216 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 4: am already convinced that your work ethic would be so high, 217 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: Like I already know the reason you're in that job 218 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: for the last eight years is because they're probably obsessed 219 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 4: with you and the fact that you go above and beyond. 220 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 4: And you know what, I already know you go above 221 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: and beyond because you haven't had a pay rise in 222 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 4: so long. And you're like, you know, that's fine, Like 223 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 4: it's all good. I've just got work to do. Absolutely not, 224 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: my queen, absolutely not. So I'm so excited, Like your 225 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: parents must just be like, look, it was worth it, 226 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: Like it was so worth it and it feels trashy 227 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 4: looking back, but like, I think that being grateful for 228 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 4: the journey and trying to change your mindset around that 229 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: is going to be really positive. Like, and it's so 230 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: hard to do, right, It's not something that's easy, And 231 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 4: you look back and you feel like really guilty, but 232 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: you're like, how do I changed this into gratitude? Like 233 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: obviously as a kid, you were like, I don't want 234 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: to be here cleaning offices. I'm gonna doord all around 235 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 4: And you're like, oh my god, I would have done 236 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: so much more had I known. Your parents didn't want 237 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: you to know, babe, your parents didn't want to put 238 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 4: that burden on a child, and they were just trying 239 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: to make it as easy and nice as possible. Like 240 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: we're all just out here doing the best that we can. 241 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: So I just think that that's something that maybe we 242 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: can work on together. So talk to me a little 243 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 4: bit more about big money goals. You said him twenty 244 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: and eleven, basically when you were still a baby, because 245 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 4: you're thirty six now. 246 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: I was twenty three when we bought our. 247 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 4: House, so first home at twenty three. 248 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm like, was pretty resistant to it. I 249 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's so. It was three hundred and 250 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: twenty thousand, so nothing like what people are paying now. 251 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: So yes, very privileged. My now partner was like, you've 252 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: just got to see the vision. I was like, this 253 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: place is gross. Want it no, but obviously super grateful 254 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: that we did it when we did. But it was 255 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: a struggle at the start, like even trying to make repayments. 256 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: My half of the repayments was a struggle. But now 257 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: obviously things are way better. 258 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 4: So tell me about now, like what are we currently 259 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 4: working towards? What are your big money goals? Obviously having 260 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 4: purchased a home in twenty eleven, I wouldn't say set 261 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 4: you up for life, but like it would definitely set 262 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: you on the right path. Yes, we're definitely going to 263 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: talk about scarcity mindset, but like we're not completely behind 264 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 4: the eight ball here, So what are we currently working towards? 265 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 4: What are our big money goals? 266 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: So up until maybe like December January, it was saving 267 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 2: to be off work for a while. I have I 268 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: think they call it like spondylosis or something like that, 269 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: where the discs in like your L five S one 270 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: which is responsible like bending and twisting and that it's 271 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: degraded down to like fifteen percent. 272 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. 273 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: And so I need to have back surgery and it's 274 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: meant to be like quite a big recovery. 275 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. Both my parents have had significant back surgery. There's 276 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 4: a lot of downtime and a lot of physio and 277 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: a lot of everything after. 278 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they need to insert like a cage into the 279 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: disk space to raise the hype back up. It's pretty gross. 280 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 4: Yep, like just fix it. I actually don't want to 281 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: hear anything about it. I understand it, whereas my mom's 282 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 4: the opposite. It's like, tell me all of that if 283 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 4: you've got pictures, like. 284 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: Oh mom, no, so one saving for that. But my 285 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: GP had put me on controversially weight loss injections to 286 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 2: help me prep for surgery. Apparently the lighter you are, 287 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: the easier it is to recover from the surgery, and 288 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: there's like less to move about coming in from the front. 289 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: But that seems to have helped with some of the 290 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: symptoms that I've been having. So I'm deferring the surgery. 291 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 292 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 2: Really, yes, And they say don't have back surgery when 293 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: you're young, because it does make it harder when you get. 294 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: Older obviously if there's no other option, but like, how 295 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 4: good that you had access to this, And like I 296 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: know that you said controversially, I just feel like it's 297 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: actually none of my bloody business. We're talking about a 298 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 4: prescription medication here that you accessed from your doctor under 299 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 4: correct consultation, like full stop in a story. That's not 300 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 4: my business, like to have an opinion on a drug. 301 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: I'm not a doctor, I'm not a pharmacist. I'm an 302 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: ex financial advisor. It's not my place. Like, I just 303 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 4: see so much of it online, Like I'm real pervy, 304 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: so I do definitely watch the tiktoks and stuff about it, 305 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 4: but like, be for real, Like imagine having an opinion 306 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: on somebody else's health. Ill, David, I love shit script. 307 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: The weird thing is the injections aren't doing what they're 308 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: meant to do, so I'm not losing any weight, but 309 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: it's I guess helping the pain side of things. So 310 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, if that stops me having to have back surgery, 311 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: I will do it. 312 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: Honestly, that's so good. I'm so excited for you that 313 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 4: you found maybe something a little bit different on one 314 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: because it's so expensive, but two like that is such 315 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: a significant surgery that does really impact life forever, Like, 316 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: oh my goodness, so you are saving for that? Are 317 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: they any other big money goals you're currently working towards. 318 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: Well, now I'm trying to like rethink what I want 319 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: to do. I definitely want to build up my eight shares. 320 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: And I think i'd like to travel because we've had 321 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: a house since we were quite young, We've not really 322 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: traveled at all. Yeah, and I would love to do 323 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: maybe like six months off and do like Europe and 324 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: a couple of other places, just to like tick that 325 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: off the list. We're dinks, double income. 326 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: No kids, And is that going to ever change? 327 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 328 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 4: I love that. And is that something that when you're 329 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: talking about financial planning, you guys like, all right, so 330 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 4: we just don't think kids are on the cards. That's cool. 331 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 4: But does that mean that we're having conversations about like 332 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 4: traveling significantly or are we talking about retiring early? Like 333 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: what are those conversations? Like, I can't relate. 334 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: It's a one sided conversation, to be honest. Yeah, Okay, 335 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: I really want to travel. He's pretty easy going. He's like, 336 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: if you don't want kids, that's fine. Like we don't 337 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: have to have kids. If you want to travel, that's 338 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: fine too. Like, he's pretty easy going. I think he 339 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: would like to retire. 340 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 4: Early, but we need a plan for that, so so 341 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 4: we're going to have to start talking about it. 342 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: Luckily, we're in really privileged physicians to own a good 343 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: amount of money, so if we wanted to, we just 344 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: kind of hammer away it, you know, setting ourselves up 345 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: to retire early. 346 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's very cool, So talk to me a little 347 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 4: bit more. We mentioned scarcity mindset and how over the 348 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 4: last eighteen years it's something that you've really struggled with 349 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 4: and you haven't until recent times, really felt like you've 350 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: been on top of it. How does that impact you 351 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: day to day Because like, let's be honest, and people 352 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: are going to think, oh my gosh, relatable. But then also, 353 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: you told us you have a house, and I'm not 354 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 4: saying that's a bad thing. It's a very good thing. 355 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: But like I know that scarcity mindset comes in many 356 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: different forms. How's that impacting you? What does that look like? 357 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: I guess this like compulsion to check my budget spreadsheet 358 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: every week, check my bank account all the time, even 359 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: though I know that we're okay, it's the what if 360 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: we were to lose everything tomorrow? And I think even 361 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: a bigger driver is with that scarcity mindset. It is 362 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: like helping my parents if they ever were to need 363 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: me and wanting to be able to support them. That's 364 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: a big thing, but it is that really big compulsion 365 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: to like check things, not really wanting to spend, Like 366 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: even though I could buy address for sixty dollars if 367 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: I wanted to, I'm like my better or not? Or 368 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: even though this face cream is in sale, do I 369 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: really need it? Probably not a better just save that 370 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: money that sort of stuff. 371 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, And like that sounds positive at the same time, 372 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 4: as I know it can be absolutely crippling because you're like, well, 373 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 4: I still want to have fun and I still want 374 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 4: to enjoy my life. And you're probably watching people in 375 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five on social media doing the same thing. 376 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 4: You're like, well, why can't I be more like that 377 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 4: or do more things? And it's very frustrating because then 378 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 4: you're just like, well, let's say we just bought the 379 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 4: face cream and yoll loaded, I'm sure you've done that before. 380 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: And then you go home and you're like riddled with guilt. 381 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 4: You're like, well I didn't need that, and is this 382 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 4: a slippery slope? Am I just going to go downhill 383 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 4: after this? I never going to get back on track, 384 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 4: and like it just wasn't worth it. Like I think 385 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 4: that they're as the need to zoom out and do 386 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 4: some bigger worker on mindset and that budgeting and cash 387 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 4: low system, because it sounds like whatever your system is, 388 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 4: you're not feeling as confident in it as you could be. Like, 389 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, I check my budget every week. 390 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 4: I know where things are going. Like, that's actually quite healthy. 391 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 4: It's not a bad thing. But if you're compulsively checking 392 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 4: because you're like I just need to make sure we 393 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 4: are okay, what other things can we put in place 394 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 4: that are going to make you feel supported? So the 395 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 4: next question I have, which is not usually a money 396 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 4: Day's episode, have you ever spoken to a financial advisor 397 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 4: about your insurances? 398 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 2: No? I think we should do that because the insurance 399 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: is in my super Like, I'm very aware of this. 400 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: I want to change super funds. I too, like you 401 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: are with that very well known retel YEP, thea super 402 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 2: fun and it hasn't been performing well. I went onto 403 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: the government your super tool. 404 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: Were you in my live last night by chance? Because 405 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: I was talking about this on a webinar literally last night. 406 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 2: No, but I joined the first Foundation's workshop. 407 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 4: You did, ah, girlfriend, I always go off track. So 408 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 4: all of them are different. Like, if you guys think 409 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 4: you're getting a consistent experience with my finance foundation, of 410 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 4: course wrong. You'll get the same slides. But oh yap 411 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 4: around them. 412 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: Yes, so I want to change super funds, but the 413 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: insurances that are in there now, we don't want to 414 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: give them up. No. Yeah, I don't want to move 415 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: everything across because then I lose those insurances and with 416 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: my back issue, it just kind of complicates things. 417 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 4: We need to talk to a financial advisor. I promise. 418 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 4: I'm just going to push you towards talking to somebody 419 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 4: and I can set you up after with the person 420 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 4: that's done my insurances. And the reason I want you 421 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 4: to do that is because they're going to look inside superannuation. 422 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 4: They're going to check if you have enough cover. They 423 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 4: might even bump up your insurances inside super and be 424 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 4: like okay, money dice, you not covered enough for this, 425 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: and that they're going to talk to you about all 426 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 4: four types of insurance. So obviously inside Superanuation, you probably 427 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: already have life insurance and you probably have a smaller 428 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 4: income protection policy. 429 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that one was I think two thousand le than 430 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: two hundred a month. I actually looked at on the weekend. 431 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that is. 432 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 4: That's probably not enough. And that's okay, because we could 433 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: increase the amount of cover you have inside superannuation on 434 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 4: your income protection or we could take out a separate policy. 435 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 4: You obviously have a pre existing condition of your back 436 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 4: which they would take into consideration when doing your things. 437 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 4: That doesn't mean you won't get cover. It just means 438 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: they might exclude those disks in your back. And then 439 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 4: they would talk to you about TPD, which is total 440 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 4: and Permanent disability insurance, which you may or may not 441 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 4: also hold in super And then they would talk to 442 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 4: you about trauma. And I'm telling you right now, if 443 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 4: you are feeling like you're worried about your parents, you're 444 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: worried what happens if something happens to me, This is 445 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: going to alleviate that. Like, if something happens to me, 446 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: my income is going to get paid. If something really 447 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 4: really bad happens to me, my de facto partner is 448 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: not going to be high and dry. They will be 449 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 4: left with more than enough cash to pay off the mortgage, 450 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 4: to live a comfortable life, to do all of those things. 451 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 4: Same with TPDA, you get totally impermanently disabled, there is 452 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 4: going to be a lump sum payment waiting so that 453 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: we can set the house up, we can make sure 454 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 4: you get the care that you deserve so that that 455 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,239 Speaker 4: burden isn't on your family. And for me particularly, that 456 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 4: takes a lot of stress off me knowing, look, if 457 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 4: something ever happens, like the weight of the world won't 458 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: still be on my shoulders. And I think that that 459 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 4: has alleviated a lot. I use a company called sky Wealth. 460 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 4: I probably should give them, like a little shout out. 461 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 4: It's not paid obviously that I use sky Wealth. I'm 462 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: good friends with Phil Thompson, and a lot of my 463 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: clients when I stopped being a financial adviser went to 464 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: him because I sent them that way, or you know, 465 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 4: gave them to feel And the reason was because he 466 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 4: did mine and I trusted him so much, and I 467 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 4: just feel so much more secure. You know, you probably 468 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 4: have car insurance, and if you crush your car tomorrow, 469 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: what's going to replace that the insurance? Yes, but your 470 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: income you crush your body tomorrow you're not allowed to work. Well, 471 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: can't replace that, can't just earn a new body. So 472 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 4: I think that for me not having insurance obviously not great. 473 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 4: You've probably heard me talk about it if you listen 474 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 4: to the podcast. But on top of that, it's just 475 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: that mental load. You're like, there's some stuff in the 476 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 4: background that is going to work, and then if anything happened, 477 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 4: then you have the financial advisor there. And also, I mean, 478 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 4: I'm ranting about this, but I'm just wildly passionate about it. 479 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 4: It's not thousands of dollars like his fees are a 480 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 4: couple of hundred bucks, because all he's going to do 481 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: is look at your insurances. He's not going to give 482 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: you advice in any other area because if he was to, 483 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 4: it would become thousands. But this is like once off 484 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 4: one and done, I'll introduce you, he'll look after you. 485 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 4: I just feel like that's the right thing. All right, 486 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: we're going to get back on track. We're going to 487 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 4: or a really quick break on the flip side. I'm 488 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 4: going to ask you a little bit more about the 489 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 4: investments because you said you want to top up your shares, 490 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 4: going to talk about debt? How you feel about that? 491 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure you're also going to have some good 492 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 4: and some not so good money habits that I want 493 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 4: to share as well. So guys don't go anywhere. All right, 494 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 4: money Diarist, We are back, and this chat has been 495 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm really enjoying this. I feel like 496 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 4: our community is going to get so much out of 497 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 4: it because one you're sharing a lot, but two we're 498 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 4: talking about lots of different things that we don't often 499 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: talk about or money hieries. You mentioned before one of 500 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 4: your goals was bumping up your shares. Does that mean 501 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 4: you already have shares? Talk to me about your investments. 502 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: So I invest five hundred and fifty dollars a month, 503 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: I'm a goodness, do you know it's like a really 504 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: random amount. I did my first investment September twenty twenty four. 505 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 4: What so, she's new, she's new here. 506 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: I'm a movie. I kept hearing you say because I've 507 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 2: been listening to your podcasts and I never skip an episode. 508 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: I'm up to August twenty twenty three. 509 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: Oh my god, there's seven hundred plus episode. 510 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: Yes, so it's gonna take me a little while along 511 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: of it. That's okay. You say you can have a 512 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: time the market just jump in and I was like, okay, 513 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: we're going to do it. And then the next time 514 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, this is okay, and I kind 515 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: of think about it, like I could easily spend five 516 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 2: hundred dollars on takeaway on the day, so I'm feeling 517 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 2: like extra blue sigoucy with my money. So that's what 518 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: I do. 519 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 4: But you're comfortable with that you picked, don't amount you're 520 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 4: comfortable with as opposed to putting our life savings or 521 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 4: something in and that would make me run for the hills. 522 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: That's right. I have three thousand, seven hundred in combank 523 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: who are you? And three point forty in Pocketbook. I 524 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: started with Pocketbook first because I was a little bit nervous. 525 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 4: No, I love this. So talk to me about how 526 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: you picked your platform. Like when you were like, oh, 527 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 4: I'm going to invest, you said that you're with comseck. 528 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 4: Why comseeck and what are you buying on comseck? 529 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So I chose comsek because that's who I was 530 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 2: banking with before I moved to up Bank that also 531 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: on your recommendation. 532 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 4: So it's like a colt over here. 533 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a couple of bank shares. So I've 534 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 2: got Bendigo Bank, Bank of Queensland. I have Sigma Health 535 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: I heard recently, so I was like, done, Dune done. 536 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: I've got Transurban, which is they'd do all the tolls 537 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 2: and stuff. 538 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 4: It sounds like you've gone with a portfolio of direct 539 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 4: shares that you're most comfortable with, which I kind of love. 540 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 4: Like obviously, lots of people would say that an ETF 541 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 4: is easier, but given your history and how you've been 542 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: feeling about it, I think you know, for example, Transurban, 543 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 4: you've probably justified this in your head and been Actually 544 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 4: people use toll roads every single day and they're relatively expensive, 545 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 4: so that feels like a not so bad investment. And banks. 546 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: You probably really like Bendigo Bank and you probably know 547 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: that they have an affiligation with up Bank, and you're like, 548 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: that looks like it's going somewhere. 549 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 550 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 4: I feel like I can see how your brain works. 551 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: That is exactly why they were my first comsect purchase. Yes, 552 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, we're going to do our first 553 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: comsect one, and it has to be bend to going. 554 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 4: I adore that you use the comsect platform to buy 555 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 4: a different bank, So like the irony of that is 556 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 4: not lost any No, that's gorgeous and I kind of 557 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 4: love that you've gone nope and comfortable with this. So 558 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 4: what's the strategy look like moving forward? 559 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 2: Okay? So I have like a watch list and it's 560 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: generally only companies that I know about all that kind 561 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 2: of like align with and I do like an EENI 562 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 2: Meeni Mini mole on the month. 563 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 4: Cool love you know what, We've all got a strategy 564 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 4: and five good time in the market. My friend, I 565 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: would be a very rich woman, but I cannot. 566 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: I try not to worry too much about which one's 567 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: the lowest on my watch list. I just kind of like, 568 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: all right, we've done bank and I just kind of 569 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: cycling through. So I'm just trying to work it up. 570 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: My most recent purchase was a Vanguard ETF. 571 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 4: Oh she's into ETFs as well, just the line. 572 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah that's cool, but I was pretty proud of that one. 573 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 4: I can't wait to check in with you in like 574 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 4: twelve months and be like, where's that out? What's going on? 575 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 4: Like five fifty a month. That's big dog energy, Like, 576 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 4: I'm so excited for you. It's just going in the 577 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 4: right direction. Talk to me about debt. Are you in 578 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 4: any debt? What does that look like? And how do 579 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 4: you feel about debt? 580 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? So I don't have a hex. I didn't do 581 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: any tertiary education. I don't have any personal loans, never 582 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: had Zippair after pay. I did, for the smallest time, 583 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: have a credit card with a three thousand dollar limit 584 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: on it. I last us that in December twenty twenty three. 585 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: So I signed up for upbank in jan twenty twenty three, 586 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: and by December I had stopped using it, and by 587 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: May twenty twenty five I had closed it off. I 588 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: was like, don't need it. I had set myself up 589 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 2: to scrawl away little amounts, so if something big came up, 590 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: I was mainly using it for like say, our yearly 591 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 2: insurance on the house, or my car. I found wanted 592 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: to go visit my sister in Brisbane, those sorts of things. 593 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 2: So in terms of debts, the only thing we have 594 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: is now home loan. I mentioned. We purchased that for 595 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty thousand back in two thousand and 596 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: eleven and we've got about seventy thousand owing on that. 597 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 4: Oh my god, less than six figures. How does that feel? 598 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: Really exciting? The bulk of it is sitting in our offset. 599 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 4: Oh she's got nice financial freedom. That's very sexy. 600 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: No, that's my part. I call him my husband, my 601 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 2: de facto or whatever. 602 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 4: The person that you cohabitate with. Yes, iconic, So that's exciting. 603 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: What's your property worth now? Obviously having purchased it in 604 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 4: twenty eleven for about three hundred and twenty grand, I 605 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 4: would assume it's increased a little bit, so you might 606 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: be sitting on a little bit of equity. 607 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably around threefold. 608 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 609 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: Really yeah, we're actually I don't mind giving this away. 610 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 2: You are in Sydney where the new airport is being built. 611 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 2: Yeah okay, so, and the property prices are just insane anyway, 612 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: but it has gone up quite significantly. 613 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's probably setting it around nine hundred two 614 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 4: a million. 615 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: Around the nine hundred male. 616 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 4: Yeah okay, And that is really cool, and that is 617 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 4: just how property works over that period of time, Like 618 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 4: that is not surprising. I genuinely was like, I hope 619 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 4: that she answers it this way because otherwise it's going 620 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 4: to be relatively awkward, because that's what I'm in taste 621 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: of hating. But what's the plan from here in terms 622 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 4: of creating financial freedom? Like you in your family home 623 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 4: that you're like, all right, well, this is you know 624 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 4: where we want to live forever. We're planning a move like, 625 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 4: talk to me about that. 626 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: So I am emotionally very tied to this house. 627 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 4: The one that you told your partner in twenty eleven 628 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 4: was gross. 629 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: Yep, that's the one. 630 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 4: Yep. Great. 631 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: We've just done a couple of improvements. We've painted some wolves, 632 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: We've replaced our kitchen, that sort of stuff. I'm quite 633 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: happy being here. It's just a tour of us and 634 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: our dog, and it's enough for us. But he would 635 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: like something nice I quote unquote nine a little bit 636 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: further away, which is fine. I am of a different opinion. 637 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: I was like, what do we need a big house 638 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: for if it's just the two of us activities. There's 639 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: so much room for activities you could get bug beds. Yeah. 640 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: If it was up to him, and I'm not totally 641 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: opposed to this, we would probably move out a little 642 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: bit further west, kind only where my parents are. There's 643 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: a lot happening out that way. Potentially lease this house out. 644 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 4: Have you ever sat down with the mortgage broker to 645 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 4: work out what that would look like so that you 646 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 4: feel a little bit more secure, like making decisions? No, 647 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 4: I feel like I've got so many things that I 648 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 4: could help you in this time. I'm like, Okay, can 649 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 4: I just set you down with a mortgage broker? It 650 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: doesn't like seeing a mortgage broker does not mean you 651 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: have to purchase a property or make a decision, but like, 652 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 4: let me sit you down with somebody who can go, 653 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 4: all right, with this amount of equity, you could purchase 654 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 4: this house. This is what repayments would look like on 655 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: a property like this, and this is what situation you've 656 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 4: been and here's what rental yield you'd get probably from 657 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 4: the previous property. So that we could make a little 658 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 4: plan and sit you down and be like, okay, well 659 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 4: that's what property would look like and you go, actually, 660 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 4: I'm not comfortable with that, and then you don't do it, 661 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 4: or you go, oh, I can see the opportunity there, 662 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 4: and now instead of having analysis paralysis, and I understand 663 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 4: that you're currently like going through scarcity mindset. The way 664 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: that we get over that is education. The way that 665 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: we get over that is giving yourself as much information 666 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 4: and as much power as possible so that making decisions 667 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 4: feels like a no brainer instead of are like, oh, 668 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 4: let me keep all of my dollars over here in 669 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 4: my offset because like right now I'm feeling super secure. 670 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 4: It's actually I'll sit down with a few people, let's 671 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 4: get a few opinions, remembering that you're the one in 672 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 4: the driver's seat. You don't want to do it. We 673 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 4: don't do it. Like nobody's going to force you into 674 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 4: signing a property contract and asking for a section thirty 675 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 4: two promise, Like, but I think that would be especially 676 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 4: in your relationship where one person maybe wants something Like 677 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 4: what happens if you sit down with a broker they 678 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 4: map it all out and say, for this house that 679 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 4: you guys, are you know considering, or even just this 680 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 4: price point. Your partner goes, ah, money dice, You're right, 681 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: I don't want to do this, Like I'm actually really happy, 682 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: Like you can be on the same page, so let 683 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 4: me set you up with that. But that's so exciting. 684 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 4: I genuinely I just feel like you've got so much 685 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 4: to a cheat. What else? What are the big plans 686 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: have you got? You told me about travel, what's that 687 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,959 Speaker 4: going to look like in the next few years. 688 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: I actually have a countdown on for my fortieth birthday. 689 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: I figure, let's time it for that a good six 690 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: months off. I don't know what I would do with 691 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: my dog. I think that would be really great because 692 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: I we've not traveled at all, and I just think 693 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: that would be really amazing, especially because we don't plan 694 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: to have kids. I'd prefer to do it like now 695 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: while we can and able to while way back's okay, yep, absolutely, 696 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: But I think the scarcity mindset does stop me from 697 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: wanting to kind of like really struggle to part with 698 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: the money, even though I have some savings and stuff. 699 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: The idea of like even dropping a couple of thousand 700 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: dollars on a holiday, I'm like, oh, I don't know 701 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: about that, even though I really want to do it. 702 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: I was like, I wonder if I could just win 703 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: a holiday. 704 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, well, let's work to works that. I mean, 705 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 4: it's a good. 706 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: Plan manifesting that Way's Jessica reach you where we need her? 707 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, right, I actually just finished recording an 708 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 4: episode about how I think manifestation is bullshit, So that's 709 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 4: probably not going to sit well. But you've got ages. 710 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 4: What did you say you were up to, like twenty 711 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 4: twenty three or something on my podcast? It'll be a 712 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 4: while to get to that, because I genuinely think it's 713 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: actually about the hard work that you're doing, not manifesting it, 714 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 4: because if you're looking for it, are you not working 715 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 4: for it? So? Have you created a holiday plan like 716 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 4: or are we just not sure about spending thousands of 717 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 4: dollars on something? 718 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: Like? 719 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 4: Have we gone and looked at hotels and what we 720 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 4: do and like, made an aspirational trip. 721 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: I've not looked at anything yet. Just this seed planted 722 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: in my head that didn't like my fortieth birthday, How 723 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: cool would it be if we went and traveled for 724 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: six months? 725 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 4: Would be so cool? 726 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: It would be so cool. But my partner also doesn't 727 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: like to fly, So I figured my one chance is 728 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: get him over there once, do it all, and come back, 729 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: because if we do a little trip, there's a hard 730 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: chance that I'm getting him back on a flight again. 731 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 4: Just get him on the international flight. I like it 732 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 4: so so I wantn't know. I feel like over time 733 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 4: you've probably collected a few good money habits. What do 734 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 4: you think your best is? 735 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I have a couple so shot Back 736 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: didn't know about it until the podcast, Adore. 737 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 4: I like that I've I've actually had an impact here, 738 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: like this is stroking my ego, like you wouldn't believe. 739 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 4: Thank you for that. 740 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: So I I'm up to five hundred and sixty one 741 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: dollars in she like shot Back money since May twenty 742 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: twenty four isn't a while? 743 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 4: And this free? 744 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: Yes, And I don't buy anything that I'm not supposed 745 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: to in quotation, but it's mainly like dog food, love 746 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: doing the pizza hut. 747 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 4: Shot Back your genius. 748 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: I always buy my fuel voucher for seven to eleven 749 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: every month, so it's just been accumulating and I'm like 750 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: so surprised. Five hundred and sixty one dollars since May 751 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: not bad. 752 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 4: That's actually a good deal. And it's free money. And 753 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 4: if you just didn't have the app, you just wouldn't 754 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 4: have made it full stop. 755 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: In his story, I tell everyone about it as well. 756 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, so do I like? I actually feel 757 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 4: like people are like oh yeah, but she's sponsored by them. 758 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not right now, I still tell you 759 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 4: it's incredible, Like I will jump up. Why do you 760 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 4: think I was sponsored by them? Because I couldn't stop 761 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 4: be apping about how good they were. 762 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: And then I think. My other good money habit is 763 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: how I manage my up and how I like tweak 764 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: my budget. So I have six everyday savers. It's like 765 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: groceries and eating out, transport and fuel, and I have 766 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 2: like my subscriptions internet and phone. I have my Lexi fund, 767 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 2: which is my dog health and medicine, that sort of stuff. 768 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: So I have six of those, and then fourteen extra savers. 769 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 4: Fourteen what are you doing? 770 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: Okay, it sounds a little bit crazy, but it's really not. 771 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 4: No, it's not crazy if it works. 772 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: I actually started doing so every pay I put in 773 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 2: a little bit like a third of what my anticipated 774 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: like utilities are going to be, so instead of in 775 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 2: that month's pay having a huge chunk come out, I've 776 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 2: been building on it for the last three months. I 777 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 2: have an emergency fund ticking away. I have the weekly saver. 778 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 2: I don't remember where I saw this, but it's like 779 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: week one a dollar Week two two dollars and then 780 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: by the end of the year, you've got one thousand 781 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: and three hundre from seventy eight. I have family and 782 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: gifts that I put one hundred dollars into that every 783 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: pay Christmas one hundred dollars of that every pay I 784 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 2: get paid monthly, and then obviously home and car insurance 785 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: and then like a discretion it. 786 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm loving this. I was going to ask, like, 787 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 4: how did you do your budget? So is this then 788 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 4: on a spreadsheet? And then you've implemented this on up 789 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 4: bank or how have we done this? 790 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, So I have my beautiful spreadsheet, I have 791 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: it mapped out for the entire year, and I have 792 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: like all of my fixed expenses, and I tweak it. 793 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: The things that will change it is like if I'm 794 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: going to have my hair done, but now that I've 795 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: got my discretionary fund, it comes out of that. It's 796 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: the weekly savor that changes it mildly. So the week 797 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: one blah blah blah. And then I go into up 798 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: bank and they have a feature pay splitting, and I 799 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: go and I tweak that every month just before I 800 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: get paid, just tweak it if I need to like, 801 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 2: if I know I'm going to be going out extra 802 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: times to eat, I'll put a little bit more in 803 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 2: or that sort of stuff that feature I love so much. 804 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 4: That is so cool. I adore that for you and 805 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 4: that it's working and that you know you're like, hey, queen, 806 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 4: I've got six everyday accounts and then I have fourteen 807 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 4: extra savers. I'm like, sorry, sit down and you. Jesse 808 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 4: got to eat cheek because she does something really similar 809 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 4: al like she's planning for everything and then I've got 810 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 4: my little cash hub system and it works really well 811 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 4: for me. But it's so cool to learn what other 812 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 4: people are doing, because I think a lot of us 813 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 4: ask like, oh, like, what's the best way to budget, 814 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 4: and it's like, there isn't one. There's just one that 815 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 4: really works for you and resonates with you and makes 816 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 4: you feel in control. I'm obsessed. I'm going to give 817 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 4: you actually access to my money masterclass so that you 818 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 4: can have my budget and cash flow system because I 819 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 4: want to see how you go with that and whether 820 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 4: that helps relieve a little bit of anxiety. There's also 821 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 4: a whole heap of mindset videos that I think will 822 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 4: be really helpful, but flipping over. Tell me what's your 823 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 4: worst money habit. Surely you don't have one I do. 824 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: It's food. 825 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 4: Ah yeah, okay, what kind of food though. 826 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: There's kind of like no limit. I'm not even boushi. 827 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: I don't go out for fancy dinners. I am a 828 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: take me to McDonald's. The happiest person on this earth. Yeah, 829 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: like we love a nugget. We do, we do normally. 830 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: I'll call my husband when I'm leaving the city to 831 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 2: lend no I'm coming home and to kind of gauge 832 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 2: what we're going to have for dinner. And it kind 833 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: of doesn't even take it word coming out of my 834 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 2: mouth for him to know that I'm angling for takeaway. 835 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, niconic, that's me. That's me. 836 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 2: So that's pretty bad my food spending. 837 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 4: But does that make you happy? 838 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 2: It doesn't make me really happy. 839 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 4: Okay, So, Le, should we really be changing something when 840 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 4: you just told me hod unless just do a really 841 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 4: quick breakup? Six everyday accounts, fourteen savers. You've started investing 842 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 4: relatively aggressively, like you are not only investing, you're doing 843 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 4: direct shares, and you've just dipped your toes in like 844 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 4: an ETF like Queen, I think that we can do 845 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 4: the food based on your budget. 846 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 2: I just would like to shop a little bit more mindfully, 847 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 2: like my twin sisters with Pole or opposite. She me 848 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: your plans every single Sunday and she snapchats her plan 849 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: for the week, and she really has takeout. Where of 850 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: the convenience life here at our house. 851 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 4: Is your sister by chance to have children? 852 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 2: Yes she does. 853 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, there you go. We're living completely 854 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 4: different lives. 855 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 2: Yes, but she's like, doesn't really have takeout, makes everything 856 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 2: at home, and we're like the convenience life chows us. 857 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I am with you, like we 858 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 4: cook a lot at home because I organize Marley Spoon. 859 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 4: And I'm so grateful for that because otherwise I wouldn't 860 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 4: be trusted when my husband makes jokes at home, because 861 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 4: obviously if anyone follows me, they know that even with 862 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 4: Marley Spoon, I'm not the one cooking. It's usually my husband. 863 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 4: And if I am, that's novel, and it doesn't mean 864 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 4: I can't cook. It's just in our house that's a 865 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 4: blue job. My husband does the cooking full stop. End 866 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 4: of story. But if it's my night to cook, my 867 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 4: husband will be like, oh, you should cook, and we 868 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 4: both know that doesn't mean cook. We both know that 869 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 4: means using the Uber eatsapp to audit dinner. Like we 870 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 4: both know that he's like, Oh, it's your turn to cook. 871 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 4: What are we having? Like Indian, I'll be like, thank 872 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 4: you for getting me. I regret nothing. 873 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 2: The other bad money habit is I have like this 874 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: generosity streak. 875 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 4: Oh no, you're too kind. 876 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: I'm too kind, But I think more like wanting to 877 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: be like like feeling like I don't know. It's like 878 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 2: something in me that feels like if I buy you 879 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 2: something or I don't know. It's a really hard one 880 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 2: to explain. Yes, I'm really working on that one. 881 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 4: No, I get it. I so get it. And do 882 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 4: you know what. I've come to the conclusion that I 883 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 4: need to reflect on why I'm doing it, but it 884 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 4: doesn't mean it's a bad thing to do it, Like 885 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 4: I need to just make sure that I'm doing it 886 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 4: for the right reasons, like not because i want someone 887 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 4: to like me, but more because I want Like I'm 888 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 4: a gift giver inherently, like I just love giving people 889 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 4: a gift that they adore. Like if I found out 890 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 4: that you loved something and I was able to find 891 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 4: it for you. Oh my goodness, Like that's my favorite. 892 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 4: Like I don't want to just buy you something for 893 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 4: the fun of it, but like if I see something 894 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 4: and I think it's you, I'm going to get it 895 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 4: and that gives me probably more joy than it gives you. 896 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 4: But we just need to keep ourselves in check there 897 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 4: because obviously if it's people pleasing streak, that involves a 898 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 4: lot more conversation with ourselves. 899 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 2: That's what it is. That's the exact word, that's right. 900 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Look, I am so impressed with you, Like 901 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 4: I am obsessed with the story we had, how vulnerable 902 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 4: you were, Like learning so much about you, you're investing 903 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 4: your house, like the fact that you're so clear on 904 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 4: what life looks like. You said you're a SI. Though, 905 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 4: talk to me about this person independently of you. You know, 906 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 4: she grew up in a situation where her parents were 907 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 4: so worried about you know, money, parents are working second 908 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 4: cleaning jobs till midnight, and she now earns one hundred 909 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 4: and twenty grand a year and she's killing life. Like 910 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 4: is she a sea? 911 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 2: Maybe more of a bee. There are some things that. 912 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 4: I we can always want to be better, but I 913 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 4: get that. 914 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like a big one on my list is working 915 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 2: out my super, like I know that it's not really 916 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 2: performing at the moment. That's like one of my goals 917 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 2: for the you to move my super across. There's just 918 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 2: like little things that I want to achieve before I 919 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 2: can think that I'm anything more than it'd be. 920 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 4: All right, well, I'll leave you there. I'm not going 921 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 4: to bully you into a higher level, but get your 922 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 4: insurances sorted because then you can change your super without worry. 923 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 4: And right now that seems like a block because obviously 924 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 4: you don't want to lose the insurance inside that super. 925 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 4: And then you're like, well what do I do? Do 926 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 4: I transfer all of it or some of it? Like 927 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 4: what am I rolling over? And you can literally talk 928 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 4: to the fight. They won't be able to give you 929 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 4: super advice, but they'll be able to talk you through 930 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 4: like your decision making process, and that's really helpful. And 931 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 4: I think getting that in place is a really good idea. 932 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 4: And then I think you should be talking to a 933 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 4: broker just to get an idea of what property could 934 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 4: look like, so you and your partner could just be 935 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 4: on the same page about creating a plan or not 936 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 4: creating a plan. Yeah, I've adored this. This is so good. 937 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 4: Thank you for your vulnerability. Thank you for sharing your story. 938 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 4: I just know that the community is going to love 939 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 4: this as much as I have. 940 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: Thank you. 941 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, Money Doris, thank you so much. It 942 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 4: has been a pleasure. The ad buy shared on She's 943 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 4: on the Money is general in nature and does not 944 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 4: consider your individual circumstances. She's on the Money exists purely 945 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 4: for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to 946 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 4: make an investment or financial decision. 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