1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to two Notting Dads. My name is Mattie J. Wow. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Is that too much back? Come back? 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Okay, let me try that one my time. My name 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: is Matti J. Hi, Matt is that more than somewhere 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: in between? Next episode I'll do a better job. And 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: this is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good, 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: it is the. 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Bad and the relatable. And I'm also ash. I'm so sorry, 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm so thinking sorry forgive me. I'm on holidays. 10 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: Dude. 11 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: That's okay, you're out, You're out of the swing. I 12 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: get it, get it. But do you know what's right 13 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: in the swing? What's best of episodes? It's a cracker 14 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: absolutely c say the best to last, I would say. 15 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: We talk about my diagnosed severe ADHD, which was no 16 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: surprise to anybody. Severe in bold we also talk about ADHD. 17 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: By the way, that's it going. 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 4: It's flaring. 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: Matt and his sister do a little dress up a 20 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: flashback from the past. 21 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: We've got that photo. It's up on the fridge. I 22 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: don't know if you saw it when you went to 23 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: get a glass on water. 24 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 4: I've got a. 25 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: Copy of it. Worry, it's sexy. 26 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: A list of question is a mum of a one 27 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: year old fighting with her partner. PSA to dads out there, 28 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: just remember, guys, just remember life is not difficult. All 29 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: you have to do is clean the freaking house. 30 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: That a chure player gets everyone across the line, doesn't it. 31 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: We also talk about if you do. Recall Matt was 32 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: in the jungle, so we had a guest on which 33 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: happened to be my wife, and I reveal April's sleep routine. 34 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 1: Are we talking about your sex life again? All right? 35 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: We can talk about that in private, but for this episode, 36 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about meditation and specifically sex. The nonsense that 37 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: is chakra. Is there sex in this episode? 38 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: Is it because I wasn't here, I didn't listen to 39 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: there's no sex in this jests giving me the sign 40 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: for sex? It is sexy time we talk about the 41 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: chakras like kma citra. 42 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, let's just get into it. I'm 43 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: going to listen to it. Okay. I can't wait to 44 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: find out about you in April. 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 4: Nice, you're fine. 46 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not, actually, and I have a story about that. 47 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Not fine. Hemorrhoids hemorrhoids about the hemorrhoids were vicious while 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: you were gone, and that was from stress. It was 49 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: stressed about you. I was worried about you, not about 50 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: me or my terrible lifestyle and my horrible habits had 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: nothing to do with that. It's all stress. But we 52 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: have some answers Matthew to why I am like the 53 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: way that I am. Okay, that's formal. So we always joke. 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: We joke a lot on these podcasts about the poster 55 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: boy for a particular. It's a disorder. Disorder, yeah it is. 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: There's got enough d's in there that out of disorder. 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: It's a disorder. I have formerly been diagnosed by a 58 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: psych hiatress as a severe let me finish a severe 59 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: case of adult ADHD. We class. Look, I didn't know 60 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: what to do. I was like, I can't say I'm surprised. 61 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm not surprising. We all knew. Now that I know, 62 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: it's it's way worse. I'm just like I found myself yesterday. 63 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: It's better the disorder. You don't know. Yeah, I found 64 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: myself yesterday. We're at the PM's house for that thing 65 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: you're doing, and I was like staring off into the 66 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: like into no man's landlight and then I'll be like 67 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: oh fuck ship if someone's like talking, was like, ash, 68 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: just this echo. It's quite a long process. I thought, 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: Matt'scarl of the Jungle and pulled my finger out and 70 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: do something for myself off here, and can I ask, 71 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Can I ask what made you want to get tested? 72 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: Because you've you're now in your about one hundred and 73 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: seventeen episodes of this podcast. I listened back to all them. 74 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, that guy. 75 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: Needs to help, because you kind of think you've come 76 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: this far. You're in your mid thirties, you come this far. 77 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: You know surely, surely you know you're fine. 78 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: No, it's getting worse. It's getting progressively worse. Really in 79 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: what way? Look, I know I know that I've always 80 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: had problems focusing. I know that I always I'm real 81 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: scattery and real up and down, I move everything. Are 82 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: you don't I'm happy? Shut up? And honestly it was 83 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 1: I knew it was getting worse. And then I started 84 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: to pay attention to some things that Oscar would do 85 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: and how and you know, he's five, he's he's you 86 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: know not. He just reminded me so much of what 87 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: of what I what like my brain and like what 88 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: the mannerisms and things like he cannot focus on anything. 89 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: What was Oscar doing that? He can't focus on me, 90 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: but he can hyper focus on a small on a 91 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: one small task, and like for me, I used to 92 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: be able to hyper focus on things and then can 93 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: I just refresh your memory? 94 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: And I you know this, But for the listeners, Ash, 95 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. But he was like, 96 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: I'm really into Pokemon cards and I was like, what 97 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: do you mean? And you would watch you would watch 98 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: people live stream opening Pokemon cards, and then you started 99 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: collecting Pokemon cards and now I'm in severe deet yeap 100 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: just you were like locked into Pokemon cards. 101 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: Locked in still bro, I am locked in. Actually I 102 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: guess I can hyper focus on that. But like I 103 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: would find that, I was like, okay, well I can't. 104 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: I can't. I'm starting to become as focused as Oscar. 105 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: It is, and I'm an adult who like should be 106 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: able to focus on. I can't read an email. I 107 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: can read like a head of an email. I could 108 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: learn a new skill like Rubik's Cube. Took me one 109 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: day to learn the Rubi's Cube. You know what I mean? 110 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: But I can't. I can't perform a new habit. I 111 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: can't build a new habit, like just shit like that. 112 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: And it's progressively getting worse to the point where like 113 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm unmotivated to do anything, like I'm unmotivated to get 114 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: out of bed, all this sort of stuff. That it 115 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: was like, all right, probably need to do something about it. 116 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: Do you remember and tell me if this is the 117 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: case or not. Do you remember? 118 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: It must have been like six months ago we had 119 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: a conversation about potentially getting diagnosed, and you said something 120 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: along the lines of you don't want to get medicated 121 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: because it's going to change who you are. 122 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: That's a common concern they say it because it's like 123 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: we talk about ADHD as you know, like a disorder, 124 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: like it's really bad, but it's also a superpowerful A 125 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: lot of people, like the psychiatrist said to me, he said, 126 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: you've gotten as far as you have done now with 127 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: what's going on in your head, but you're obviously at 128 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: a point in your life where you need you need 129 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: I need to be able to create a routine, have 130 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: some sort of structure. I need to be able to 131 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: sleep properly like this, so like it takes me like 132 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: four hours to go to sleep, I'll just lay there, 133 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: bro and my head will just just run the whole time, 134 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: the biggest one. And you'll notice it when and you 135 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: probably already notice it when that I noticed when I 136 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: come on the phone to someone and I'm invested in 137 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: our conversation and something so minute will get my attention 138 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: and I'll pull on that piece of string and the 139 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: complete conversation changes to me just I'm not there anymore. 140 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: And I've gotten to the point where I'm doing that 141 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: to family and stuff like that, and I'll get off 142 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: the phone and I'll go, fuck, I just did that again. 143 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: I'll have to really Like. I rang my sister back 144 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: up yesterday and I was like, I'm so sorry you 145 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: would having an actual important conversation with me, and I 146 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: didn't digest it. I didn't digest the back end of 147 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know what happened because something had caught 148 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: my eye and I cannot refocus on that conversation. 149 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: And it's tough because obviously, your sister's going to be 150 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: very sympathetic because she understands you and you and who 151 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: you are. 152 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,119 Speaker 1: But I guess other people might be like fuck ash, 153 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: like that's rude. Men. So many people and I feel 154 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: really bad. So if you are on the phone to 155 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: me and I do tune out, it's a disorder now, okay, 156 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: but yeah it's Yeah, it just was getting to the 157 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: point where I have that's just put yourself in my 158 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 1: shoes for a moment. No motivation, no routine, no structure, 159 00:08:54,559 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: no goals, no interests. Like I was just like a blob. Yeah, 160 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: pretty much, And it's like, I can't. It really really 161 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: hit me when I surfed the wavepool before you it 162 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: was before you left or during you left, I don't know. 163 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: I did hurt my back on the same session, but 164 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: I literally paddled out and I was like, I fucking 165 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: hate this, And it was like why though, why is that? 166 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: Like why is your brain now associating this with something 167 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: that you hate? Like, yeah, is it because maybe that 168 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: I put too much pressure on myself to be the 169 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: best that I can be, but I don't have the 170 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: patience to work to be the best? Yeah I could be? 171 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: So what was the process? Because I remember you saying 172 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: it was hard. I know you were kind of like 173 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: tiptoeing around getting tested. But it's not just a simple 174 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: make an appointment. Oh yeah, you like, do this test? 175 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: Do you have it, what does it look like? Step 176 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: by step? 177 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: So this is the second time I've been down because 178 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: we spoke about it last year, but it was the 179 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: referral I got then was to a particular clinic that 180 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: feel like they were quite big, so you sort of 181 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: get you sort of go into the conveyor belt of process, 182 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: if you will. And I felt like the information was 183 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: like the step was like it felt like the test, 184 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was like, I'm not 185 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: going to get through all this shit. I can't focus 186 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: on one thing. How do you want me to focus 187 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: on fifteen different things before I can see a psychiatrists 188 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: who to say, Okay, what's going on? Yeah, which probably 189 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: deters a lot of people. I got really lucky because 190 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: a Kish Keisha's such an advocate for it for people 191 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: who do know. It's Keisha from Life Uncut. She created Cloud, 192 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: which is on the Life on Cut network, which is 193 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: a podcast all about ADHC, and she was able to 194 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: point me in the right direction how she went through 195 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: it where it wasn't as painful, which look, the steps 196 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: are essentially the same, but there was more guidance instead 197 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: of just being like, here go, this is what you 198 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: need to do because you're one of them million people 199 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: in this in the in the start of this clinic 200 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: here where you need to go do this, do that? 201 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: Do this? Do that? What do they make you do? 202 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: So stuff like there's a lot of like cognitive testing, 203 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: like when you go for a new job in a 204 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: corporate situation, again you go through online question nail Yeah, 205 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: but it's long. Again you feel like this is the 206 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: ADHD test, but it's just to find out what sort 207 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: of person you are, like what what makes you tick? 208 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: What doesn't make you tick? Are you depressed? Are you sad? So? 209 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: Do you do that? You do that test, and then 210 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: what happens after that? 211 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: You've got to they say that you need to provide 212 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: some like character references. Why I wasn't I called up? 213 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: Uh? 214 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: Why do you think that? It was just like, thankfully 215 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily have to. I think there is you 216 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: do enough cognitive testing about your character. And then they're 217 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: also asked for like peniss I don't know, I haven't 218 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: seen it in ages and it's like like old school 219 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: reports and stuff like that, because there's no way you 220 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: would have had that O. No, no, definitely not no, no no. 221 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: And thankfully, through this channel. I didn't have to do 222 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: any of that. 223 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: So, like your reports would have said, easily distracted bam. 224 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, losers focus bam, cannot focus on task bam. My 225 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: advice to anyone who's who wants to go down the 226 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: track and looks at it and goes, fuck, it looks 227 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: like a long thing. Just do your due diligence on 228 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: where you do it. Because this was really quick opposed 229 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: to it being really really long. So this was like 230 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: a couple of week wait to see a psychiatrist off 231 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: the back of your testing. It was telehealth. We spent 232 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: an hour together. 233 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: Wait, so just so I know, so you've done your 234 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: online online tests, I'll go from. 235 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: A stuff GP to with your concerns, as you should 236 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: do with everything. Really, go and see your GP. Just 237 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: tell them what's going on and what makes you think, 238 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: and they'll ask you some general questions there too, because 239 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: they're trained to do so as well. But then they'll go, okay, 240 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: do you have a clinic in mind, which thankfully from 241 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: Keisha I did, and then you essentially the refel goes 242 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: to them, They reach out to you. They essentially give 243 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: you all the information about what comes next. I'm really 244 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: dumb here, But is a clinic like an ADHD clinic. Yeah, yeah, 245 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: it's like an ADHD clinic and like like brain neurodivergent. 246 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: They specialize and all that sort of stuff, and then 247 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: you do the online. Yeah, they sort of give what's 248 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: going to happen next. And the cost. That's another thing too. 249 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: It's because how much it costs. Oh look, it's like 250 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: it's upwards as three grands do. It's not shit, it's 251 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: not cheap. Wow, it's for me. I was at a 252 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: point where I felt like I needed to invest it 253 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: so that I don't essentially become you know, depressed really 254 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: because it's where it was headed. Yeah, it was headed 255 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: to like impacting you that much. It was impacting you 256 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: to the point where there was thoughts of suicide, like 257 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: just completely honest, like very minor. But I've felt that before, 258 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: but I thought, this is getting worse. This is the 259 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: trigger for that. It was sort of like for me, 260 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: that was my how I felt because I had no motivation, 261 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: no no structure, no orry, no no no no, don't 262 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: don't don't at all. Like I've I've sort of suffered 263 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: with this sort of stuff for long and a half. 264 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: That I'm like, okay, well, but what was getting me 265 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: down was that I couldn't. I would do the thing. 266 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: You know, here's an example, Like you would go, okay, 267 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: I want to do this right, So what you do 268 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: is you put the steps in place to get to there. 269 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: I would go, I want to do this, get to 270 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: the first step in my brain and go this is 271 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: all too hard, and that's it, you know, Like, here's 272 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: a good one. I started doing laps at the pool. 273 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: So what I bought like one hundred dollars pair of goggles. 274 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: They're still in the packet and that was two weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, 275 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 276 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: Like, so after after you do your you went to 277 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: the clinic, did your testing there? And is that off 278 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: the back of that do they say like you have it? 279 00:14:59,480 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 280 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: So you do the testing and then you have your 281 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: consultation with with a psychiatrist, and there's a lot. They 282 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: dive into a lot like childhood, family life, both your 283 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: immediate family and then obviously my wife and kids, and 284 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, school and hobbies and habits like alcohol, drug 285 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: or they do into everything the family loss. Look, if 286 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: you're not at a position where you want to talk 287 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: about all that stuff, then maybe it's not worth going 288 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: down there confront it's really confronted. It's like exhausting. At 289 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: the end of it, you're like fark like like it's 290 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: like a it's a proper therapy session, which thankfully I've 291 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: got some experience in so I wasn't, but I can 292 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: imagine if that's your first Oh yeah, you'd be like 293 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: holy shit. Like I had to take it in the 294 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: car because it's just like I needed zero distractions and 295 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: just needed to I was like, if I'm going to 296 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: spend all this money and do it to improve my life, 297 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: I need to just lock myself away and get it done. 298 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: And then based off that in the conversation, he said, look, 299 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: in my professional opinion, you do have adult ADHD along 300 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: with there's a couple other things that's in the They 301 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: give you a diagnosis, which is the diagnosis goes back 302 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: to my GP for next steps, which is next steps 303 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: is blood work ECG, and for me, blood work and 304 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: ECG is really important because I've got heart disease. Out 305 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: for medication, for medication, Yeah, because he openly says, hey, 306 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: we can treat this with medication. Whatever that's going to 307 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: look like, I don't know yet, or we can you 308 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: can look at you unpacking. It's like a fast way 309 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: or slow like that's the way they put it. And 310 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: I was like, look, I'm open to being medicated, but 311 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: that's what I was worried about losing my spark, right, 312 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: I was losing like I didn't want to lose my 313 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: personality and will lose how my brain works in certain ways. 314 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: And he was like, no, no, no, I will. Yeah. 315 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: But then at the same time you talk about your spark, 316 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: it's like, I don't I look, think about that moment 317 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: where you say you're thinking about self harm and you're like, well, 318 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: that's not it's not helping you. 319 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: It's it's not a spark that you think it is. Yeah, yeah, 320 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: there's always like the negative side to my brain, the 321 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: personality that I have. But he said to me, no, no, no, 322 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: He's like, look, what we can do is we can 323 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: look to just make it easier for you to focus 324 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: on tasks and achieve smaller goals than just being like, 325 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: here's something kind of completely dull who you are as 326 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: a person for the rest of your life. And that's 327 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: a big stigma around medication. When I'm medicated already now 328 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: and I have been for years, But it was like 329 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: before that, I was like I didn't want to be 330 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: medicated because I didn't want to be seen as that 331 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: person who's medicated. Right, it's like he's had like a lobotomy, yeah, essentially, 332 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: and like, but then once I went down the process 333 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: the first time with you know, with that, it's like, 334 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: it's not that bad. 335 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: Do they when you say severe? Is there like a scale? 336 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: Is it like between I guess it's just his medical opinion, right, 337 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, well I've heard you. I've heard what 338 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: you're like, what your brain's like, and they're very good 339 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: at like drawing stuff out of you that they are 340 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: trained to do right if they could. 341 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: But it's kind of I guess on the one hand, 342 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: it's kind of daunting to know, like, Okay, I've actually 343 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: got this thing now, But then at the same time, 344 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: it must be nice in a sense to know, like, hey, 345 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: it's you know, I've been living with this thing which 346 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: has been hindering me for so long. 347 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: It's not you. It's it's like, you know, it makes sense. Yeah, 348 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: it's like now that I'm aware of it, and there's 349 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: certain things that certain behaviors that I do like, like Mike, 350 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: my doom scrolling is on a fucking another level. It's 351 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: because it's ADHD paralysis. I'm just there searching for me, searching, 352 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: and that's the easiest way for me to get it 353 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: without you know, racking up you know what I mean. 354 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: Like in that, I'm just like consistently searching. And it's 355 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: like it's a known thing that you go into a 356 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: paralysis where you're like, I'm just going to sit here 357 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: all day in a vortex, and I have done that. 358 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: You know what the first day both kids went back 359 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: to school, I think you were away and I think 360 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: we had nothing on or whatever. I literally sat there 361 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: till the kids got home. He got nothing achieved that day, 362 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: and it was like, I don't have the motivation, nor 363 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: do I have this drive the strength to move off 364 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: his couch and other than just sit there and doom scroll. Yeah, 365 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: maybe joke off. Yeah. So that's where we're at. Okay, 366 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: so you haven't had any medication. Gott to do blood 367 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: test ECGs. Then you go and do another psych appointment 368 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: to talk about medications, the pros, the con all that 369 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: sort of stuff. Like another hour and then they see 370 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: you again. Just make any adjustments and then it's up 371 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: to you how often you want to see them, like 372 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: check in. So like I think Keish was saying that 373 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: she did the first initial appointments and they adjusted the 374 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: medication and everything seems to be working fine. But if 375 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: her if her brain chemistry changes or something changes, like 376 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: maybe she falls pregnant and hormones changed the things that 377 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: maybe she might need to go it came again. Yeah, 378 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: but she's gone through the harder process. Well, dude, I'm 379 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. Thank you, very proud of you. 380 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: That's the most serious conversation I've had in a very 381 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: long time. 382 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would have been so easy to 383 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: kick this bucket down the road a little bit longer, 384 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 2: a little bit longer, knowing how hard the process is. 385 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: I think, well done, thank you, well done. I feel 386 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: better about it already. I mean, it's like you said, 387 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: there's no surprises like it was. You know, I can 388 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: have a large red bull and ghostraders leap like you know, 389 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's just yeah, it just got to the 390 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: point where it was like and then I was doing 391 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: I was doing this thing where I was like, wish 392 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: I'd known this before I started a podcast with you 393 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: Sorry something in two years. I'm kidding, I kidding, But 394 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: it was getting to the point where I was like, 395 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not yeah, like I definitely have a 396 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: problem with alcohol, Like well, that's no fucking secret. But 397 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: it was getting to the point where it was like 398 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: I was just drinking because I was just depressed about it. 399 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: And it was like, if I'm going to be unmotivated 400 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: to do things, I might as well do the things 401 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: that's like, the the easy things that give me some 402 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: sort of chemical in my brain to make me feel 403 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: a bit better. Anyway, here we. 404 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 5: Are, I'm not having any sisters. Like yearned for a 405 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 5: sister most of my childhood. I desperately wanted a sister, 406 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 5: and so that's the only way to get one is 407 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 5: to dress up my pen Yes, into my sisters. 408 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm very excited about. 409 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: And because I punched her in the nose. Oh yeah, 410 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: I have a willing participate because I felt bad. Yes, 411 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: why did you dress me up? 412 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: I don't really know. I feel like you came to me. 413 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 6: It's where I'm bored. 414 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: Let's what clients could I wear? 415 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 5: Let's so he was like the he was always the 416 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 5: funny one, so he would have wanted attention. 417 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: I don't remember how Yeah used to you had a wig? 418 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: Put me in the wik should we you got the here? Yeah, 419 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: brought it. 420 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure we would also like to like pop 421 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 5: dance and. 422 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: Like, have you got any pop dance videos? No? That 423 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: was before. That was like before my grandma have one 424 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: somewhere like a photo that I'm thinking, let's not. We 425 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: don't have to bring it out. 426 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: Oh my god, what you've got breasts? 427 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: Also, he's loving it. You can just I was forced 428 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: into that against my will. Look at the pose, the 429 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: he look, Oh my goodness, the sparkly hair. I look good. 430 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god. What? And so for like one evening, 431 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: I get a sister. Yeah you did. I was called Ntricia. 432 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: Is that sick? Is it redularly? Probably? Probably any foundation, 433 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: any roofe, Muma's makeup? Wow, very good? Have you got 434 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: a sports praer on? Under that? 435 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 5: The only thing I would say is that he wasn't 436 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 5: the only brother I dressed most dress. 437 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did dressed most. You wanted to be like 438 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: the Spice girls. 439 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 5: David did ask most of the time to be dressed up. 440 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: Wow, he did aspect you look great? You do look good. 441 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, you look like you look like someone 442 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: who always tries to get out of pe just like 443 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: a lit the beer boxes in the back, cheepers, good boobs, 444 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: good graces at the camps. Can I keep this? God 445 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: knows what you'll do with it? 446 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 5: Matt stress up as a woman plenty of times in 447 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 5: recent times. 448 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: It's in a while. I'm true. For one, I reckon, 449 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: you need to recreate this. That's a great, great week. 450 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Listen to questions, Listen to questions. 451 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: Do you want to start this? Start you start? Okay? 452 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: This one's from anonymous strange names this week. Mum of 453 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: a one year old here, huge fight with my partner 454 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: last night. He says we spend no time together, our 455 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: relationship is non existent, and we no longer have fun. 456 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: He's not wrong in some ways, we've both been focusing 457 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: on getting back to ourselves after becoming parents, or or so. 458 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: I thought. Do you have any rituals for spending time 459 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: with your rituals sex, I'm a child. I'm just a 460 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: child first and foremost. Go on. 461 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: I think it is very natural as parents with any 462 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: number of children, that you have periods where you feel 463 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: a bit disconnected. 464 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: From your partner like a roommate, like a roommate face. 465 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 2: Do you know how old the kids are? No, that's 466 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: one year old? Did you say one year old? 467 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: Yes? 468 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: Fuck like dude, can you remember how hard it was 469 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: with a one year old? 470 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: Yeah? 471 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: Do you know what I forgot? I had to do 472 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 2: disinfect like the teats of bottles? 473 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: Do you remember that shit? I didn't know? God? Oh 474 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: not by hand. Did you put in one of those 475 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: things and checked in the microwave? You're putting plastic in 476 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: the microwave? No, they go in like a special. They 477 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: go in a special. Parents will back me up. I 478 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: swear to god, google it. It's like a It's like 479 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: a container. You put a little bit of water and 480 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: it's steroloite. You chuck it in the microwave, heats up 481 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: and it's sterilized. It like boiling water. Microplastics. Does that 482 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: mean anything to you? Obviously not, bro. My My kids 483 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: are just full of microplastics. They're going to get their 484 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: blood filtered one day. Sorry, I shouldn't attack it. I 485 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: mean attacking you this day. Yeah, I appreciate it. I 486 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: keeps me on my toes. I've acknowledged it so first 487 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: and foremost continue one year old. 488 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 2: It's like that is that you're in the eye of 489 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: the storm. That is a tricky position to be in. 490 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: I think it's their coming out of the trickiest position, 491 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because that's what you're saying. Yeah, 492 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: like that that age. Yes, don't get me wrong, still tricky, 493 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: and for some it's trickier that whole leading up to one. 494 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: No wonder, you're not fucking hanging out with each other. 495 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: You probably hate each other everyone on the surface. 496 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: Yes, did everyone with a one year old. Every couple 497 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: hates each other at that period of life, and. 498 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: If they don't, they're fucking lying. No one is thriving. 499 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: You may thrive for the blink of an eye, but 500 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: then the majority of the time you just try to 501 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: stay alive. 502 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just get your head above water. That's the reality. 503 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: I think anyone who was like, oh wow, I don't 504 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: really have, like my relationship is not cranking with one 505 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: year old, I'm like, it should that shouldn't. 506 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be cranking. If it's cranking, that kid's been neglected. 507 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: It's hungry, all right, keep controld alive. I think also, 508 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: and we say we're not going to give it any advice. 509 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: But we're both married, we both have two kids. I 510 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: think we're both in a position we could give a 511 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: little bit of advice that has worked potentially for us. 512 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. Give yourselves a fucking break. Yeah, sorry, 513 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: continue shut you. Don't go so hard on yourselves, and 514 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: don't put too much pressure. There's so much time for 515 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: you to get that back. Is that? Am I wrong? Yes? 516 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: Go on, okay, put more pressure in yourself. 517 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 6: Is that what you say? 518 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: Get get ready? Yeah, give the mom a break? Okay, yes, okay? 519 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: Because I I I was shit with a one year old. 520 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: I was still in that mindset of like, oh, mum's 521 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: got it, you know, because newborn's up until three four months. 522 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: Mum and newborn they are attached at the hip slash 523 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: boob and one year old boo there we one year 524 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: old is when dads like that can really start taking 525 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 2: on a lot more true, And so I think I 526 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: think it's hard to think about being sexy and romantic 527 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: and wanting to have all that type of business going 528 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 2: on when you know the house is a mess and 529 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: you're trying to deal with a little child. So my 530 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: best advice is any dad's out there who think, oh, 531 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: my relationship is not being prioritized. Just like, clean that house, dude, 532 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: take a day off work, call and sink to work 533 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: and just like clean the house, do the washing, mop 534 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: the vacuum, mop the floor. 535 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: A little bit of your player is going to go 536 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: a long way. I refer to the twenty and twenty 537 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: three calendar that we did. 538 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: Go plug. 539 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: Very much out of date. That's my advice. I think 540 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty solid. But I would just attack on 541 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: the top of that that if you are mum, don't 542 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: try and force that advice onto them because it could 543 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like if you're like, why 544 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: don't you clean the house anymore? It might make it worse. 545 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: You fucking talent to clean the house? Are you going 546 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: with your going with full tellent? I think by what 547 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: I like what you said was then if your dad right, 548 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: just just go and do it. Yes, yes, yes, I 549 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: like that. Be proactive, be proactive. There he is. That's 550 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: to hear because it's it's like for me personally, if 551 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: I would prefer to be proactive and do those sort 552 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: of things, then to be told go and do it, 553 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? No one enjoys a gift 554 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: they asked for, not that doing exactly. There you go, 555 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: You're just full of good words right now. I'm not 556 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: going to stop it. You got was the apple juice. 557 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: It's out of date. Okay, question for you again. Don't 558 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: put too much pressure on the relationship right yes, because 559 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: no one is no I know, we joke, we laugh. 560 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: Everyone fucking hates each other at that stage. Life with 561 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: a two year old is a lot better than life 562 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: for the one year old. Yeah, for sure. They're given 563 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: back way more. Give me a toddler any day of 564 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: the week. Boards. It's funny, like with white noise, we 565 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: were a white noise house and something. Matt's never had 566 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: white noise in their house or anything else ever, No, 567 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: And it's like what, like why, I said to him why, 568 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: and he was like, we just never. It's the best, 569 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: like the lightning, the storms. 570 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, they haven't noticed it well in saying that we've 571 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 7: had the fan on and that's probably naisier than the 572 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 7: white noise. 573 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: But I find that like I'm so accustomed and used 574 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: to it now, it's just like it's part of our house. 575 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: I feel like when we lose it, I'll be sad. 576 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, when they don't, when they say they don't want 577 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 7: it anymore. 578 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like, well, hang on, we've listened 579 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: to the same song, same noise, yeah, every night for 580 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: five and a half years so far, it'll be the 581 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: end of an era. Very good. I think that's a hack. 582 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: Anything that gets a kid to sleep, I'm sweet with. 583 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 7: It's almost as good as our two meditations competing against 584 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 7: each other. 585 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: They each yeah, so averyone along with the white noises 586 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: in our house. April and I both have sleep music. 587 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: I think we just adopted it from having the white 588 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: noise on because we had we lived in units for 589 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: so long with Oscar, mainly that the whole house just 590 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: was like you walk into a house all the time. 591 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: It's just it's like an AM radio station. And then 592 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: we were like, oh, you know, do some sleep music. 593 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: I think for a while there we had one where 594 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: we just shared it. And then you've gone more into 595 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: the meditation chakras. Oh god, it's and mine's more just 596 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: like piano sleep music. But the thing is your meditation 597 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: lasts for an hour, it's three hours. What for the 598 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: talking only last for an hour? Talking for an hour, 599 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: but you're out cold in like two, You're like, it's 600 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: sleeping next to a dead body, and you are out, 601 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: And so I've got to spend the next hour listening 602 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: to this woman carry on about different energy chakras. But 603 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: also I find with those those people. Also I find 604 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: with people who are really into that and the chakras 605 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: like me, they really in depthly describe where your chakra is, Like, 606 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: no one's going to if they don't, no one's going 607 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: to believe them. 608 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: So here's an example. They're like, So, she's like, and 609 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: your third chakra is in your stup just below the 610 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,719 Speaker 3: breast bone, in between both victorial muscles, slightly underneath the 611 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 3: cartilage of the humanness. 612 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: To listen to my meditation, that's like, what don't you 613 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: just say it's in your chest? Do you think this 614 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: one's gonna be? Like, okay, if it's in your chest, 615 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: where is it? 616 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 7: I'm just going to disagree with you because I quite 617 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 7: like it. 618 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: It's like they're like, okay, And also how many chakras 619 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: does one person have? I listened to it so many 620 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: times that they're like, and I don't go to sleep 621 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: that easy. It takes me forever. And I'm listening. You're 622 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: welcome you as well. And at the top of your 623 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: head is your twelfth chakra. Like she's just rattling off 624 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: the human anatomy. Essentially, it's great. It's all mindfulness. What 625 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: you're fastest say your story is snoring and I'm listening 626 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: to someone and being. 627 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 6: Like, and your sixth chakra is at the base of 628 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 6: your buttole and it slightly edges up towards the shaft 629 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 6: of your penis. 630 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, fuck, king hell, how many chakra energy? 631 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: And they're all energy chakras. And then they finish with 632 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: and if you look up, there is your final chakra 633 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: hovering above you like a guiding light. Definitely doesn't say 634 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: that it does. It doesn't say it must be specific 635 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: to mothers. Oh really, yeah that far? You literally have 636 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: never gotten that far. It gets to a point where 637 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: it's like street noise, traffic noise, nothing will wake you 638 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: except for the sound of your newborn child. I'm like, 639 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: shut up, anyway. 640 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 6: Your newborn child has fifty five chakras. 641 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: Let's begin, let's begin, or it's like, now started your 642 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: head and work your way down. It's just how you're 643 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: saying it. Maybe I should, maybe you should be the 644 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: chakra talker. Maybe this doesn't work out. If this doesn't 645 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: work out, then we know where we're sandon. 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