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Speaker 1: You're listening to Will and Woodie.

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Speaker 2: Hates Will and what do you hope you having a

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Speaker 2: wonderful Wednesday? Guys, Big news today. I think that it

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Speaker 2: kind of scares everyone is the face. There were ten

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Speaker 2: fatal attacks across the world last year in shark attacks,

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Speaker 2: and nearly half of them happened in Australia. Bloody hell.

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Speaker 2: So well, look contextually, like, let's just put it into context.

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Speaker 2: Ten deaths is not a lot. Yeah, and four deaths

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Speaker 2: that happened in Australia is also not a lot. But

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Speaker 2: the truth is the reason we talk about it is

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Speaker 2: because none of us can think of anything worse than

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Speaker 2: getting mauled by massive fish. So we've got someone who

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Speaker 2: knows a lot about sharks. He's been on this show before.

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Speaker 2: He's on a boat right now filming a shark doco.

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Speaker 2: His name is doctor Riley Elliott.

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Speaker 3: Welcome doctor Yoday, guys, just having me and for bringing

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Speaker 3: context for such a tragic but hard to discuss kind

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Speaker 3: of situation.

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Speaker 4: So Riley, to your expertise.

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Speaker 3: Actually sorry, before I ask my first question as well said,

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Speaker 3: you're on a boat right now filming a documentary.

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Speaker 2: What's what's the m O of the doco.

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Speaker 3: Are you currently filming? I mean, I ain't filming anything

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Speaker 3: right now because I've visited, have been chumming all dad,

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Speaker 3: and I haven't seen a single shark. And I mean

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Speaker 3: that is the context of the ocean.

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Speaker 4: And Jenny, I mean.

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Speaker 1: We've got such an instilled fear of chars.

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Speaker 3: And and you know, Australia, to be honest as one

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Speaker 3: of the worst in the world at pretty hits and

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Speaker 3: drum lines and doing all of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Wood You and I were actually living in Western Australia

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Speaker 2: when the then premier sanctioned the use of baiting drum

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Speaker 2: lines horrific five hundred meters off the shore and then

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Speaker 2: effectively paying farmers to shoot those sharks.

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Speaker 3: I actually went out on the water there and film

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Speaker 3: documentary on it, and we got in the water to

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Speaker 3: save a little baby, juvenile tiger shark that was left

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Speaker 3: for dead because they said they were releasing them alive.

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Speaker 4: But the end of the day, like I'm a surfer,

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Speaker 4: that's why I've gone to sharks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know I looked under the bed to

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Speaker 3: see the Boogie Manders and yeah, he's there. Unfortunately, we

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Speaker 3: don't perceive Parker ashes or.

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Speaker 4: Suicide or overdoses. It's not right, but it is important

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Speaker 4: to address it. And I think surfers are the best

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Speaker 4: at it because generally they're like, dude, host surf no

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Speaker 4: matter what, because the reward.

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Speaker 3: Is so so wurfing, we can put it into context

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Speaker 3: as much as we want. I think I read a

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Speaker 3: stat today like one hundred and seventy people killed by

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Speaker 3: horses and sixty by cows. Yeah, but at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, we do have to address the fact

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Speaker 3: that these things happen, and they have a far greater impact.

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Speaker 3: And to be honest, putting really good first aid you know,

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Speaker 3: available in those remote places because shark don't want to

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Speaker 3: eat people make a mistake, but unfortunately blood loss what

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Speaker 3: kills doing a torn cat and mates around.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Riley, let's talk about that practically. Then is there

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Speaker 2: anything else that they should know before they jump in

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Speaker 2: the water.

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Speaker 3: Oh, basically, In short, you know, it's not a pool,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a wild environment.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I mean not to just scramble anyone who's scared or

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Speaker 3: hurt by shock. But like you know, if you went

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Speaker 3: and played tennis and the Savannas, you'd probably expeak, something

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Speaker 3: would happen, and we just for some reason, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: for some reason we we don't read just through that

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Speaker 3: the ocean has those predators, and to be frank man,

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Speaker 3: they're the most polite predators on Earth. You know, we're

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Speaker 3: talking about team in the world. Every one of them

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Speaker 3: is super tragic, has super big impacts.

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Speaker 4: But it has to be put.

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Speaker 3: Onsta You know, it's going to continue to happen unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: but there's not some kind of surge or huge plague

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Speaker 3: in Australia. You know, you're talking about numbers.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about four I think we're talking about four.

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Speaker 4: Sixty people from cow attack as well.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that should be the next question. How do

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Speaker 2: we defend ourselves in the cow attack if we step

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Speaker 2: you know it, you have been coming to terms with that.

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Speaker 3: I feel like cow than I am shocked, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: I can hear that I'm learning about, you know, sharks,

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Speaker 3: and yet I live in a dairy caplo of the

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Speaker 3: world in New Zealand and I have no idea how

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Speaker 3: to read a cow.

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Speaker 1: But again, guys, this is a serious topic, but it's

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Speaker 1: something that souls here and it just we can't let

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Speaker 1: it perpetuate because media will like to blow up numbers.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, like there is

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Speaker 3: no pattern because the numbers are so small, you can't

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Speaker 3: statistically make a pattern.

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Speaker 2: That's a great point. I think it's a really interesting conversation.

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Speaker 2: Obviously all of this has to come into context. But

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Speaker 2: if you are going to assume in the ocean, some

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Speaker 2: lovely practical tips there from doctor Riley. Elliott Riley, thanks

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Speaker 2: so much for joining us, Joy sal Boy, Thanks mate.

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