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Speaker 1: Jump Mission with Jos and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Well, our next guest has more number one albums than

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Speaker 2: any other Australian So we're thrilled to be talking to

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Barnes about his new one, Flesh and Light, about

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Speaker 2: to embark on a tour and I hear a new cookbook.

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Speaker 2: I could not be more excited. Jimmy Barnes for.

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Speaker 3: Lost there he is. Yeah, they how are you guys?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Very well.

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Speaker 3: We've been really busy, haven't you. Just Yeah, some people.

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Speaker 2: Use a lot of bit, but some people use lockdown

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Speaker 2: to sit on a couch and eat Natella. The two

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Speaker 2: of you just ramped up the business.

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Speaker 4: You I think we did a bit of that too.

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Speaker 3: That's why we've got sugar rush and then just had

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Speaker 3: to do stuff. Yeah, we did a lot of good things.

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Speaker 3: I wrote a kid's book. Jane and I wrote a

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Speaker 3: cookbook together.

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Speaker 2: Kind of white for that.

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Speaker 3: It's really good.

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Speaker 4: It's called Withere the River Bends, and it's it's like

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Speaker 4: most of them are Jame's recipes.

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Speaker 3: I do a few, but I write stories for every

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Speaker 3: sort of chapter.

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Speaker 4: And and you know, we were sort of there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of banter between Jane and I all the way

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Speaker 4: through the book with.

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Speaker 2: All your recipes because I follow you guys on your

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Speaker 2: socials that sometimes I say you saying, here's how you

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Speaker 2: make really great gravy. He's a roast, but Jane's stuff

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Speaker 2: is more tie in fu. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: fusion in your life.

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Speaker 4: Jane, Yeah, there's cook confusion normal, Jans, No, we don't.

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Speaker 4: We don't normally do a lot of fusion. What we

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Speaker 4: do is if we're going to do tie, will cook tie.

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Speaker 4: But Jans James, you know, see Jane grew up as

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Speaker 4: the daughter of a diplomat, so you know, she grew

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Speaker 4: up in Italy. He grew up in Russia, grew.

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Speaker 3: Up in Malta, grew up in Mcuala, Lumpa.

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Speaker 4: So so it's food from everywhere all and there's all

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Speaker 4: these recipes that are part of her life as well

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Speaker 4: where she grew up and so there's all these dishes

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Speaker 4: they're really dear to her heart and that she's sort

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Speaker 4: of passed on to the kids.

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Speaker 1: In camera when because Jane was living in camera because

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Speaker 1: dad was a diplomat. But you were like two different worlds,

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Speaker 1: weren't You were like this rough and ready rocker and

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Speaker 1: Jane had been brought into it into class and culture.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I've tried to sort of mix that

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Speaker 4: up and tell everybody that I was a sort of classy,

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Speaker 4: cultured one, but nobody believe.

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Speaker 2: So the sliding doors of life. Here you are, the

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Speaker 2: two of you managed to make it together, and the

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Speaker 2: kids are involved in a big way too, aren't they.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, well, you know the thing is what this

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Speaker 4: all stemmed from from, you know, lockdown of course, you know,

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Speaker 4: from COVID like everybody else. Like you said, we did

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Speaker 4: have a lot of time to think, and we had

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Speaker 4: a lot of you know, we had a lot of

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Speaker 4: time to do things.

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Speaker 3: Part of the things one of the things we did.

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Speaker 4: As you well know from our socials, was we decided

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Speaker 4: we're going to sing every night. Jane learned guitar and

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Speaker 4: she present a song and we say, oh can we

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Speaker 4: sing this? And I'd sing it, and we thought it'd

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Speaker 4: be a nice way to reach out to people. And

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Speaker 4: we discovered that that was sort of not only were

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Speaker 4: we reaching out to help people, it was reaching out

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Speaker 4: to help us, and it helped bring us you know,

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Speaker 4: close and chain and I've been together forty years.

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Speaker 3: We've never been locked in the same place for more

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Speaker 3: than three weeks. Were all was moving.

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Speaker 4: So we were there and we got to see a

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Speaker 4: lot more and see more other sides of each other

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Speaker 4: some some way like someone did, and so it became

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Speaker 4: this sort of extension of us. And and I thought

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Speaker 4: it'd be a great thing about you know, we songs

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Speaker 4: with their kids and stuff. So and I thought it would

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Speaker 4: be great to make a record about, you know, the

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Speaker 4: about family and about that, you know, about that flesh

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Speaker 4: and blood, you know, like even sitting I don't know

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Speaker 4: about you, but I think a lot of people do this.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I've got everything I could want at the most beautiful family,

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Speaker 4: and at night sometime I just want like I can't

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Speaker 4: get to sleep and lie there thinking I'm not good.

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Speaker 3: Enough for them, you know.

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Speaker 4: So I wrote about I wrote about the self doubt

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Speaker 4: and the fears that come into relationships. I wrote about

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Speaker 4: that just that joy of being together. I wrote about

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Speaker 4: my children. You know, when I look at my children,

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Speaker 4: I can see I can see all the good parts

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Speaker 4: of me in them. But I can still see something

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Speaker 4: about ones.

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Speaker 3: As well, you know.

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Speaker 4: And uh, and just sort of and I and I

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Speaker 4: and I have to laugh because I think you know.

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Speaker 3: The problem is I spent sort of set sixty.

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Speaker 4: Five years sort of going through all these or trying

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Speaker 4: to deal with these problems where these kids are like

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Speaker 4: the new software version two point oh, so they've they've

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Speaker 4: dealt with this by the time they were fifteen, you know.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's a it's an interesting look at family

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Speaker 4: and and so the natural extension was to take that

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Speaker 4: on tour.

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Speaker 3: And that's what we're doing with the flesh and blood too.

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Speaker 1: Your grandparents are gay. In congratulations, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really good.

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Speaker 4: Eliza Jane, a beautiful daughter who lives in New Zealand

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Speaker 4: with a fellow Jimmy, has had a beautiful baby boy, Theodore.

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Speaker 3: His name is the Darling. His middle name is Darling.

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Speaker 4: Darling there Darling, the teddy teddy Darling.

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Speaker 1: And you you've seen little baby Theo.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well we we actually it was a miracle when

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Speaker 4: that window opened up, that bubble for New Zealand. It

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Speaker 4: was like two days before the birthday and we were panicking.

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Speaker 4: Ej was panicking that weren't going to be there, and

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Speaker 4: we the bubble came out. Who was the gun tour

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Speaker 4: manager got us on the first flight out of Australia.

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Speaker 3: We were in New Zealand for the birth.

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Speaker 4: That was beautiful, and so they're coming out for the

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Speaker 4: tour andj is going to be singing with me and

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Speaker 4: the baby. The baby will be in the papoose backstage

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Speaker 4: and wandering around. It's going to be great, just like

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Speaker 4: the all this we put the work.

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Speaker 1: When you have to be doing something.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to sample him and get.

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Speaker 1: The tin lids all over again.

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Speaker 3: It's great. Talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Pre order Jimmy's new album now from Jimmy Barnes dot

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Speaker 1: com today. Do it is so good Jimmy. It's always

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Speaker 1: a treat to catch up with.

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Speaker 3: Love to talk to you guys too. Well, let's let's

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Speaker 3: do it again. Take care, Jonesy and Amanda's