1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Now joining me in the studio is acting Northern Territory 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Police Commander for the Darwin Region, Kirsten Engles. Good morning 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: to you. 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, now, Commander. 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Well, a couple of incidents from overnight, but can we 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: first talk about this incident that happened in Tiverndale. Somebody 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: allegedly or apparently held up at knife point in their 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: car stoling. 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie. 10 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 3: What we know is in the early hours of this morning, 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 3: please were informed that offenders had robbed a mail at 12 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 3: knife point at a petrol station and wish Hut stealing 13 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 3: his Toyota Yaris vehicle. The vehicle was then driven to 14 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: an address in Malac and rammed into the gate of 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: a residence there and we believe that that one's TV related. 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: The vehicle was then driven to a residential address in 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: Winelli where it was allegedly used to ram a lunch 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: Heaven snack bar. So general duty is attended and strukeforce, 19 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: trident and dogs were recalled to duty. So shortly after 20 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: the vehicle was sighted in Gray and the vehicle failed 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: to stops or pursuit occurred. 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: During this interaction. The offender is. 23 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 3: Alleged to have attempted to ram the responding police units. 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely disgusting and thank goodness no one was injured. Tire 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: spikes were successfully deployed and as a result, a fifteen 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: year old youth was arrested and hot off the press. 27 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: A sixteen year old co offender has now been arrested. 28 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so you've got the second the second teenager. Where 29 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: did you get that sixteen year old? 30 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: I'm not actually sure where they got. The struck force 31 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: tried and have picked him up this morning. 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what, you know, it's pretty frightening stuff. 33 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: I'd be absolutely terrified if somebody, if I was filling 34 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: up my car and something like that happened. I guess 35 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: the advice, you know what is the advice I suppose 36 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: to people should something like this occur, because you know, 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: your first instinct is to sort of fight back. But 38 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: when somebody's got, you know, an aged weapon, it's pretty 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: it's a pretty dangerous scenario. 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: Oh, it's terribly dangerous. I mean, just to wrap this 41 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: one up, Yeah, what we've got here is an innocent 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: victim allegedly rubbed at knife point, a gate been rammed, 43 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: a shop's been smashed. Pursuits happened in our streets, including 44 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: attempts to ram police vehicles, and these offenders thought they 45 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: could do what they wanted, and they're reckless and they're 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: dangerous and it's completely disgraceful. And now they've been stopped 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: and I'm not I'm sure I'm not alone, and being 48 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: pretty relieved that they've both been picked up. 49 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think it's really good, good 50 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: job by the Northern Territory Police being able to pick 51 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: those two teenagers up. Do you know, Commander, whether either 52 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: of them were known to the police or on bail 53 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: or anything like that. 54 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: At this point, I'm informed neither were on bail, but 55 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: both are very very well known to police. 56 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: Okay, And are they local or were they here from 57 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: somewhere else? 58 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 2: Do you know, No, I don't know the detail on that, 59 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: or we'll keep. 60 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: A close eye on that. Again. I mean, what do 61 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: you say to people if they wind up where they 62 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: feel as though there is sort of a dangerous situation 63 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: potentially unfolding. I suppose in the first instance, if you 64 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: can see someone approaching and you're able to get back 65 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: in your car and leave, that'd be a good thing 66 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: to do. But sometimes you know, they like people sneak 67 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: up on you when you're really not ready for it. 68 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can understand the desire to want to 69 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 3: protect your property, but I'm telling you need to protect 70 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: yourself first. I'm telling you not to put yourself in 71 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: harm's way. We are pretty quick at responding, We're pretty 72 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: quick at picking these people up. So I need the 73 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: public to know that they should not ever put themselves 74 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: in danger if it can at all be avoided. Understanding 75 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: this is deeply concerning this behavior. 76 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, good advice In terms of them trying to ram 77 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: the police vehicles, that's worrying behavior. And it's not the 78 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: first time that we've seen this kind of behavior, but 79 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: it's you know, you're talking about young people who have 80 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: stolen a car. They're then driving dangerously, dangerously enough that 81 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: they've got no regard for the. 82 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: Police, and they're not even old enough to hold a license, 83 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: let alone drive. So the fact that they're driving around 84 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: is scary enough, as it is then to be fueled 85 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: with some sort of intention to commit offenses, you know, 86 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: triples that. So, yeah, for them to be driving at 87 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: the public disgraceful and our police members. Yeah, it's what 88 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: can I say, I can't say enough how disgusting it is, 89 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: and you know we will use every tool we've got 90 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: legally and lawfully to hold them to account. 91 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Hey, it's not the only pursuit from overnight either in Rosebury, 92 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police there was also another incident, is that right? 93 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: There was at about four am this morning a police 94 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: pursuit was held in Rosebery, Palmerston Strikeforce Trident and a 95 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 3: dog unit member attended. The vehicle eventually stopped in bushland, 96 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: with the alleged defender running off into the nearby bush. 97 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: Cordon was set up and the dog unit tracked that 98 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: person down who lay in the bush trying to hide 99 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 3: from police. But we're unsuccessful in doing that. That person 100 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: is now under arrest and was a current arrest target 101 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: force Strike Force Trident. 102 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: Right, So you're you're able to get that person any 103 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: idea on ages or anything? 104 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty six year old male? 105 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and on target in relation to sort of property. 106 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: Crime or arrange a different things. Thanks Hik. 107 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: We're well done to the police on being able to 108 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: apprehend that person as well. Hey, I also know the 109 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police have been involved in an anti social 110 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: behavior sort of a crackdown I guess you'd say on 111 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: anti social behavior on public buses over yesterday, and I 112 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: think it runs for today and tomorrow as well. It 113 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: is all part of this crackdown that's involving transit officers, 114 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: Wilson Security, as well as family and youth support officers 115 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: and student engagement officers flooding the bus network as kids 116 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: go back to school. How's it been in the last 117 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: twenty four hours or so. 118 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they did a great job yesterday, and we love 119 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: being part of these multi agency operations. We think that 120 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: together we can make a lot more impact than alone. 121 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: So yesterday was the first day and the police involvement 122 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: was patrolling in and around the bus exchanges, the bus stop, 123 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: surrounding car parks and any areas of high risk. So 124 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: I can give you some stats from yesterday. So they 125 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: engaged with one hundred and eighty people and one hundred 126 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: and five were moved on, and that means they had 127 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 3: no real reason to be in the area, so we're 128 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: told to leave. One hundred and fourteen liters of alcohol 129 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: were tipped out, and that means they had that had 130 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: alcohol where they shouldn't live. So that's bear wine and spirits. 131 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: That's a lot of god is, Five summary infringements were 132 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: given out, nine banned drinking orders were issued, three arrests 133 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: were made, seven people were taken into protective custody, and 134 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: seventy eight people were wandered with two weapons located. 135 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: So those are pretty high stats for day one. 136 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately, it shows struck quite a strong connection between 137 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: those areas and the consumption of alcohol. 138 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, some weapons, So that's. 139 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: Disappointing, but we're out there, we're in force, like you said, yesterday, 140 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: today and tomorrow. 141 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: So seventy eight people wandered with those with those weapons. 142 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: Any idea what they actually. 143 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: Had, No, I haven't been given that. 144 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, all right, we'll keep an eye out for that. 145 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: But I mean even that alcohol, one hundred and fourteen 146 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: leaders of alcohol. That's of a lot of alcohol in 147 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: like a what was that a twenty four hour period? 148 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: There was between two thirty and nine o'clock. So no, 149 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: it just shows out there, you know, the afternoon. And 150 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: I've always said if we can deal with the alcohol 151 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: early on, we will stop offenses happening later. And so 152 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: these are people that are around that transit security sorry, 153 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: transit area. We don't want people hopping onto buses that 154 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: have got a balley full of glock. 155 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely, and then you worry about the safety 156 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: of all the passengers on there, but also the drivers, 157 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: everybody involves. So anything that can be done to really 158 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: try to stamp out some of that behavior I think 159 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: is a good thing. Hey, before I let you go, 160 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: an interesting one from earlier in the week, and I 161 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: know what happened in Alice Springs, but keen to sort 162 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: of find out whether you're concerned that it may have 163 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: drifted to Darwin. Police receiving several reports of counterfeit money 164 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: circulating in Alice Springs. Now on Tuesday, well yesterday police 165 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: located and seized over four thousand dollars in counterfeit notes. 166 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: Is there any concern that we might wind up with 167 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: some of that money sort of filtering to Darwin. I 168 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: guess by very nature of using cash, it ends up 169 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: all around the place. 170 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we haven't heard of it coming up this way yet, 171 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: but like you say, it's a realistic scenario that the 172 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: money will move if it's not picked up. So we're 173 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: asking people to do three things. 174 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: Should you come into. 175 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: Unfortunately come into possession of a counterfeit note, and that 176 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: is to note the details of how you got it, 177 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: to store it in an envelope, and to report it 178 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 3: to the local police station. So it is an offense 179 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: to use it. 180 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: Don't use it again. 181 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, and I'm told that we can detect them 182 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: through things such as strange markings, any sort of words 183 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: like props or copy. They should be a little bit 184 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: obvious or maybe they've been tried to be covered up. 185 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: The note will sometimes feel different, it might feel quite 186 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: light or paper like, but one of the best ways 187 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: is to put it alongside a real note and look 188 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 3: for how genuine it looks. 189 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, good, cool the difference. Ye, And I hope that 190 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: you haven't been given a bloody counterfeit I'd be disappointed 191 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: if I had. Hey, someone's just text through and asks 192 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: the fuel station drive off sore they an offense? Somebody's 193 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: just asking is it an offense if somebody drives off, 194 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: you know, without paying? And do people ever get prosecuted 195 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: for it? 196 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: Asks Rob. 197 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: It's definitely an offense to drive off without paying for 198 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: your fuel. 199 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: That's called stealing. 200 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: And yes, we regularly get sent these by the service 201 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: stations asking us to follow up with them. 202 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: It's certainly an offense. 203 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah right, all right. Well, Cursten Angeles, the acting commander 204 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: for the Darwin Region. Really good to speak with you 205 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: this morning. I appreciate your time. 206 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 207 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: Thank you.