WEBVTT - REGGIE IS BACK ON THE PODCAST WITH SOME EXCLUSIVE NEWS! 

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last week. They might welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris and on this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest players

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload reloads the shows that you were currently watching

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<v Speaker 1>and gives you a better insight at our television industry

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<v Speaker 1>and streaming services today. On the podcast, I have the

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<v Speaker 1>winner of Big Brother twenty twenty two. It's Reggie Byrd.

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<v Speaker 1>Reggie took out the competition back in Series three, which

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<v Speaker 1>won over Australian audiences like no housemate had ever before

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe ever since. This year, we were treated to

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<v Speaker 1>Reggie's return to the Big Brother House as we celebrated

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one years of the show in Australia, and while

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<v Speaker 1>it had been nearly two decades, we saw the same

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<v Speaker 1>heart and soul of the most treasured Big Brother player

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<v Speaker 1>rise to the top all over again. Reggie has been

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<v Speaker 1>through a lot with her son cystic fibrosis, her deteriorating

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<v Speaker 1>eyesight and a few extra bumps along the way, although

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<v Speaker 1>Reggie has never given up and she took on this

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<v Speaker 1>new format with just as much gusto as the younger newbies.

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<v Speaker 1>We will talk Reggie's win as she heard from Gretel Colleen,

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<v Speaker 1>her memorable moments, what she has learnt from a life

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<v Speaker 1>full of lessons, and we will even get a few

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<v Speaker 1>home truths on some of the former housemates. However, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get started. I'd like to welcome Australian legend Reggie Bird

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<v Speaker 1>to TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so shocked. I really was, because I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to get it into my head as well that

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<v Speaker 2>I was editing the bay.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been through a lot together, haven't we.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep him away from the public eye This.

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<v Speaker 3>Year it's my first birthday and.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, Matt, I'm going to get rid of her

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<v Speaker 2>before she gets rid of Mat.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've invited housemates, both new and legendary.

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<v Speaker 2>I opened up every single letter and I wrote back

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<v Speaker 2>to every single person.

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<v Speaker 3>Will experience be enough to take on the next generation

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<v Speaker 3>of housemaid I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>So happy to be at the end with Johnston to rest.

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<v Speaker 1>This is big brother, Hi Reggie, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi? Ben? How are you.

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<v Speaker 1>What has the last few days been like for you?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, this is so phenomenal. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>winning Big Brother for the second time. It must feel

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<v Speaker 1>so surreal.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been It hasn't hit me. Honestly, has not been

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<v Speaker 2>that slat out. It's been crazy. Interview after interview after interview,

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<v Speaker 2>I have not stopped. Yeah, it still hasn't. It hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>sign king. I think once I get a moment to

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<v Speaker 2>catch my breath and it'll start hitting me.

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<v Speaker 1>Then have you been able to have some time with

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<v Speaker 1>the boyfriend? Have you been able to have some time

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<v Speaker 1>with the kids. Have you had anything any time to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to celebrate this or with the people in

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<v Speaker 1>your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Look Phil, bless him. Yesterday we went and had

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<v Speaker 2>to buy it to eight with his daughter and then oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get to have a sleep over. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>excited about because he flies back back to Wah tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>and I won't see him again for another month.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I think is really funny is people

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<v Speaker 1>keep saying that this is some sort of new relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>like you found him in the last you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. But you've been with Phil for how long?

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<v Speaker 1>Has this been going on for because that was through COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, over four years we've been together, I've kept him secret,

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<v Speaker 2>I've kept him away from the public eye.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he say to you, I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the media, or is it that you're scared that

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<v Speaker 1>the media will try and eat him up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I just wanted to keep him to myself, like

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<v Speaker 2>he's such a beautiful person, and I thought this one,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm keeping this one quiet. He also is

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<v Speaker 2>quite shy, he's not one to be in the spotlight,

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<v Speaker 2>so I respected his wishes as well. So it's and

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<v Speaker 2>it's worked. We enjoy each other's company. We're both chalk

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<v Speaker 2>and cheese. And he loves me for who I am,

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<v Speaker 2>which is amazing, and I love him for who he

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<v Speaker 2>is as well. So yeah, it's just working. And well,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't see each other for gosh, he got stuck

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<v Speaker 2>in the COVID crap for two years over in w A.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we that was tough, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I kept him going and because mentally, like for them

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<v Speaker 2>not to be able to fly back to see their

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<v Speaker 2>family was just awful. I mean it was awful for

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<v Speaker 2>a whole of Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think sometimes, you know, even through COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>we tend to be aware of what's happening to everyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>but what is happening in our homes is still the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure point, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's funny because I've read a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>articles along the way of this Big Brother journey that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still married to Dale. We split up quite a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. We split what's lucas He'll be thirteen next month,

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<v Speaker 2>so eleven years ago, Dale and I better. Yes, So

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<v Speaker 2>me and Phil have been four years together.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what was the conversation when it came to what

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<v Speaker 1>name you were going to use? Because I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>know you with a couple of names, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>decided to go with Reggie Bird in the media, but

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't been a bird for maybe nearly two decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it was funny, Like they asked me, they said,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you going to go with? And I said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm known as Reggie Bird, and I think it might

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it might have just been easier to

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<v Speaker 2>keep it that way than Reggie Sorenson. I really do

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<v Speaker 2>need to change my name again and go back to

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<v Speaker 2>my maiden name.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I know your made a name? What's your maiden name?

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<v Speaker 2>Bingham being cam Yeah? Yeah, so I should really go

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<v Speaker 2>back to my maiden name, not keep old married names.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel puts the ring on my finger.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have any conversations with your first husband about

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<v Speaker 1>using his name Bird? Have you heard from him from

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<v Speaker 1>him to even say congratulations to No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I haven't had from Adrian for god, pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>since I left as he No, I haven't heard anything

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<v Speaker 2>at all. And it's funny. My sister was we're having

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation, you know, she said, Oh, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>hate you using Bird.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you even know if he's alive?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. He's still in the fish and chip shop,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's still very cooking the fish and chips. I

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<v Speaker 2>do know that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to ask so people when you win,

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<v Speaker 1>big brother, because I'm aware people ask you the usual questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, what are those questions that you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. For me, it was always how are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to spend the money?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what it is. And I'm going to use

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<v Speaker 2>the money as a deposit to try and get a

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<v Speaker 2>reef over our heads. And I need to also try

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<v Speaker 2>and make that money grow a bit more because these

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<v Speaker 2>days it's crazy, it's insane, so you can get a place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's my main priority. The kids need a laptop

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<v Speaker 2>each for school, eventually going to need braces on their teeth,

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<v Speaker 2>so all that current you know stuff I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>also have to do as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really funny how people don't really understand that two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty thousand dollars is a life changing amount

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<v Speaker 1>of money in some way. But it doesn't really buy

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<v Speaker 1>your house, it doesn't really make you live a millionaire lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is just, you know, a very small cash

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<v Speaker 1>injection that can probably help help out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's going to help, Like, it's definitely going to help.

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<v Speaker 2>But I reckon if I went to the bank, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, when I do get the money, if I

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<v Speaker 2>went there and for alone, like the houses up here

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<v Speaker 2>on the goal case, you're looking at eight nine hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars, three four bedroom houses. It's insane. So I'll work,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll work it out. I'll work. I've got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of good friends and around me this time to give

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<v Speaker 2>me good advice.

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<v Speaker 1>The person who I want to know if you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>from and I think I've heard this a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>Asked to me, do you know if Reggie's heard from

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<v Speaker 1>this person? Have you heard from Gretel Colleen via text

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<v Speaker 1>or via a phone call to say congratulations?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I haven't even thought about that. Hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean I haven't even might have seen a message

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<v Speaker 2>in Facebook, Messenger or Instagram. I have not even checked

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<v Speaker 2>my inbox. It's because it's gone through the roof and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really overwhelmed by it. So I honestly have got

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds and hundreds of messages I need to get through.

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed a notification popped up today and someone's going,

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<v Speaker 2>can you please check your DMS. I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get in contact with you, so I've got to go through.

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<v Speaker 2>There could be one in there, but no I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Rabbit, my old producer in Two Hairs and the

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<v Speaker 2>three we're on a WhatsApp check group, our Twofairsman's three housemates.

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<v Speaker 2>They all congratulated me through that is.

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<v Speaker 1>What about Mike Godman, have you had from Money?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mike's seen that. Yeah, I heard from Mike. He

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<v Speaker 2>congratulated me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's funny was that I had the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing because social media had really kind of boomed in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve, and I felt so overwhelmed with all these

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<v Speaker 1>messages that I have a confession, and that is that

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<v Speaker 1>I actually didn't read through all of those messages for

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<v Speaker 1>maybe two years. I was so scared about it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it just me because I read some messages that were

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<v Speaker 1>really kind, but then I'd also read some messages that

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<v Speaker 1>weren't so kind, and then I had this feeling of

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<v Speaker 1>it was just as ridiculous to connect to the good

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<v Speaker 1>messages as it was to the bad ones, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it all just seemed like a lot of belooney. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say thank you to everyone who messaged me

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, but you know it, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a very stressful thing. It's not as easy as what

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<v Speaker 1>people imagine. You're not sitting there with letters fan mail,

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<v Speaker 1>opening them up and hearing the most amazing thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well it's different this time around because back in

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<v Speaker 2>yeah two fairusands three, I've still got the bag. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a big you know those two dollars Chinese bags.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a massive one of them full of fan mail.

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<v Speaker 2>And I when I got out of Chief Aairs and three,

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<v Speaker 2>I opened up every single letter, and I wrote back

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<v Speaker 2>to every single person.

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<v Speaker 1>We know where you've been now for the last say,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen years, You've actually been sitting there writing back to

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<v Speaker 1>all your fan mail from the first time round.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking that long, I'm sure I'm going to come across

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<v Speaker 2>some bad stuff as well, There's no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to take the good with the bag, you know, good.

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<v Speaker 2>With the bad, good with the bad is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be more good than bad day.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the years, like, we've had so many conversations about

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother, about our lives, and I've been privileged enough

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<v Speaker 1>to spend time with you, and dreaming about the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of going back to Big Brother always felt like just

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<v Speaker 1>a dream, never felt like something that would ever happen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, re entering the house, what was there a

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<v Speaker 1>moment where you stepped inside and you thought, Wow, this

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<v Speaker 1>is actually happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I didn't know, I didn't know what this concept

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be, and I thought that I was

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<v Speaker 2>just going to be an old housemate getting thrown in

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<v Speaker 2>like an intruder into the show. And I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>there was other past housemates coming in. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>saw Tim Dahmer in the cow, I was just like

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<v Speaker 2>over them. Oh, I was just esthetic. I was over

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<v Speaker 2>the moon. I'm like, oh my god, I'm here with Tim.

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<v Speaker 2>So I felt more comfortable and not as afraid, because

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<v Speaker 2>until you feel really scared. But once I stepped right

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<v Speaker 2>into that house, it just felt like being back home again.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that sounds weird, but that's that's how it felt.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like I'm home, I could imagine. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what I felt. Really surreal with the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother house. People unless they've been in there, they

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't understand how connected you become to it. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Reg, I met you at the Commonwealth Games

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<v Speaker 1>before I did Big Brother, at an after party, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember talkalking to you about Big Brother and I

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<v Speaker 1>said to you, look, I want to apply, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get in, and you gave me some advice about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you talked about the need to have a routine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so that you don't sort of lose your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And how you told me that you'd make a cup

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee at a certain time or I followed exactly

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<v Speaker 1>everything that you told me that I should do is

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<v Speaker 1>basically what I did. It did make me feel super

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<v Speaker 1>connected to that place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's your home. It's gone to have a routine.

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<v Speaker 2>It was sort of bit hard this time around to

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<v Speaker 2>have a routine because it was a big brother was

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<v Speaker 2>really full on, you know, like back then, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we just laid by the pool and I'll get up

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll make my bread and do my exercise. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'd always be up earlier. I think Tim was the

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<v Speaker 2>first main Tiam were the first wines up every morning

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<v Speaker 2>without fail.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they tell you what time of the day that was?

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<v Speaker 2>No, but it must have been early. It must have

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<v Speaker 2>been early because you could just tell by the sun

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<v Speaker 2>coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your thought and what was going through your

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<v Speaker 1>mind when they announced the winner? What was going through

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<v Speaker 1>your mind at that point?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, look, I honestly thought one of the boys was

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<v Speaker 2>going to win it. I thought Johnson was going to

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<v Speaker 2>take his out, And going through my mind, I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, I was just like, hurry up, hurry up,

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<v Speaker 2>hurry up, hurry up. Just just announce it. Just announce it.

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<v Speaker 2>And looking into the crowd and also hearing the crowd

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<v Speaker 2>they were cheering a lot for me, which was lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when Sonya opened up that envelope and read

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<v Speaker 2>out my name, it just brought back memories back to

0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.720
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and three when Gretel read out and the

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<v Speaker 2>winner is Reggie. I was so shocked. I really was,

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't want to get it into my head

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<v Speaker 2>as well that I had it in the bag. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just shock. Then when she read my name out.

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<v Speaker 1>When amazing, you know, just so crazy, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I was really shocked about the show kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it kind of just ended, and

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't get Sonya to sit down and ask you

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<v Speaker 1>any questions about how you felt.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's weird. I didn't even realize that, miss elf.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm gonna watch it back. I haven't watched it back,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm watching that this afternoon. But now that you've

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<v Speaker 2>said that about I didn't like in two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 2>Gretel sent me on the couch and went through it

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<v Speaker 2>all and showed the package and asked you questions, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>none of that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, everywhere I went, I would be going

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<v Speaker 1>through the airport to try and get back home to Melbourne,

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<v Speaker 1>or I go out for lunch or go out for dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone would say ask me questions about Big Brother

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it's like. People recognizing me asked me

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<v Speaker 1>questions and everyone said the same thing. They're like, But

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't get to see if she's okay. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know. She just looks so overwhelmed and scared and

0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.760
<v Speaker 1>frightened and excited and thrilled. But we wanted to know

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<v Speaker 1>how you felt.

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<v Speaker 2>How was that? I happily day down to that next

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<v Speaker 2>year to the winner whore the winds wut them down?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you reckon? I'll do another or one in

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<v Speaker 2>this concept, I don't think they will.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the catch up figures are strong, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>think over all the yeah we're better in that regard

0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.200
<v Speaker 1>because there was a lot of negative press about oh,

0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:05.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not rating and all the rest of it. But

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<v Speaker 1>once the Overnights has sort of happened and people got

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to watch it, you know, the numbers work

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<v Speaker 1>quite strong. I just think it's a very hard show

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<v Speaker 1>to make because it's a lot of people's emotions and

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<v Speaker 1>feelings and a lot goes into it. Are the producers

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<v Speaker 1>going to have enough energy in the tank, then have

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<v Speaker 1>enough gas in the tank to really want to go

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<v Speaker 1>through the whole thing all over again.

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<v Speaker 2>With if they do, if I do, I do, hope

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<v Speaker 2>they do all stats, like a total all stats.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard a lot about it. One particular housemate said

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<v Speaker 1>to me at the after party that he actually heard

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<v Speaker 1>from a producer that they're thinking about doing an All Stars.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, that'd be good, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>Reggie should have it in her contract. Every year, I

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<v Speaker 1>must do Big Brother and win two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go back for a third. Imagine if they did

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<v Speaker 2>a Winner's one band, bring back all the winners.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be so good. That would facilitate my dream

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<v Speaker 1>because I've just always dream in my mind that I

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<v Speaker 1>would get to do it. So that would with you,

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<v Speaker 1>with particularly with.

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<v Speaker 2>You, imagine that they've got to do it, bring back

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<v Speaker 2>the winners.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're so much more self aware about

0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.680
<v Speaker 1>disingenuous people around you and making sure you surround yourself

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<v Speaker 1>with the right people. Is that how you feel. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like this time around you sort of have

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<v Speaker 1>to be careful of the people you are including in

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<v Speaker 1>your circle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm more aware of this time around, and I

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<v Speaker 2>do have a lot of good people around me. So

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<v Speaker 2>I do feel a lot more confident in where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going in what I'm doing this time around. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>last time I didn't have a clue and it showed

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<v Speaker 2>I was made so many mistakes, so it won't be

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<v Speaker 2>doing it this time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess there's been the two other boys that

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<v Speaker 1>have come, you know, the runners up to your win.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been able to speak to those boys because

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have so much to offer them an advice on

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<v Speaker 1>post Big Brother and how to survive post Big Brother?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, definitely, like John's Terrest, So they are great people,

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<v Speaker 2>they really are. And you know it was a game,

0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.080
<v Speaker 2>and you know people come across to Ls, especially coming

0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.040
<v Speaker 2>across as you know, real snake, but he's got a

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<v Speaker 2>big heart and Johnson's a character like he's got a

0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:18.320
<v Speaker 2>big heart too. And you know Terrest said like the

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<v Speaker 2>in the room before going on stage, like he couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have felt happier with the three people that were going

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<v Speaker 2>to be up on that stage. But I will definitely

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<v Speaker 2>keep in touch to the boys and make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>they're okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if it wasn't for Terress, then you know those

0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.639
<v Speaker 1>three wouldn't have been the same, Like Terress really had

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<v Speaker 1>the power, I thought, No matter what he had done

0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.960
<v Speaker 1>through the show, he played a brilliant game of Big

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<v Speaker 1>Brother and the modern Big Brother, you know, like with

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<v Speaker 1>all the twists and turns and you kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>to throw people under the bus and you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have to build a resume and all of that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. But then he kind of redeemed himself in

0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.000
<v Speaker 1>lots of ways because he did choose Johnson and yourself

0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.000
<v Speaker 1>to be there with him. Yeah, and they were the

0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.600
<v Speaker 1>rightful they were the people's choice, they were the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 2>There because even though, like I said to him in

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<v Speaker 2>that scramble cry to who he had to choose, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>so said, you've got to take me. I said, AUSTRALI

0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.000
<v Speaker 2>is going to hate you if you get rid of me. Now,

0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I said, no, one's going to vote for you. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I said, but if you take me, I said,

0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.520
<v Speaker 2>they will love you for that, tourette. So and that

0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.720
<v Speaker 2>played a big part in his game play. So for

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<v Speaker 2>him taking me along, and I'm glad that he did,

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, I wouldn't be here talking to you now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's really strange for me is the commentary

0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.560
<v Speaker 1>about taras people loved him through his villainry and him

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<v Speaker 1>being a villain and a steak or people hated him

0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.840
<v Speaker 1>for it. But my impression of him now that I've

0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.199
<v Speaker 1>spent some time with him is that he's kind of

0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.800
<v Speaker 1>not villainous. He's not the person that people have seen

0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:47.679
<v Speaker 1>good or pout. He's actually better. There's something quite wonderful

0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and quite unique about Taras as a person, someone so

0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.399
<v Speaker 1>infectious and warm. I mean, I'm just enamored by Arras.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you can tell, but I've just

0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:00.720
<v Speaker 1>been blown away by him and how kind and wonderful

0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:02.000
<v Speaker 1>this person is. It's crazy.

0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:06.360
<v Speaker 2>He has a heart, he does, and we didn't get

0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.880
<v Speaker 2>to see a lot of that on the show. But once, yeah,

0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.440
<v Speaker 2>once you get to know to us as a you know, personally,

0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.919
<v Speaker 2>he is a beautiful person. And I'm so glad that

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<v Speaker 2>I've met these group of housemates and so happy to

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<v Speaker 2>be at the end with Johnson and Terrette. So whoever

0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:28.159
<v Speaker 2>ahead of taking this out regardless, we all have a

0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:29.400
<v Speaker 2>love for each other, and.

0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:30.960
<v Speaker 1>You could see the bond, you know. I was standing

0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.320
<v Speaker 1>with your sister Anita and we were both crying, and

0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she knew how to feel at the

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<v Speaker 1>after party, and there was this moment where you were

0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.320
<v Speaker 1>being lifted up by these new housemates. They were literally

0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.720
<v Speaker 1>carrying you to your ride back to the hotel, and

0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:45.960
<v Speaker 1>it was it was such a beautiful moment, like these

0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.960
<v Speaker 1>people truly love you. Yeah, I obsessed with.

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<v Speaker 2>You, you know, because I played a social game and

0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.960
<v Speaker 2>my personality that's just who I am being. That's why

0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:56.840
<v Speaker 2>they love me.

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<v Speaker 1>Such a strange thing. Maybe they were reach maybe they

0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:07.520
<v Speaker 1>know you've got the term ye. Now, you have been

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:11.680
<v Speaker 1>mediating some significant drama throughout the show, but then you've

0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 1>also been mediating some drama after the show that kind

0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of spilled into the real world. Why do you think

0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:20.639
<v Speaker 1>that Estelle and Tim seem to clash so much after

0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the show?

0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I think they bloody. I haven't spoken to him.

0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I hope they made up before they went on the

0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.440
<v Speaker 2>stage there. Yeah, because in the house, like they had

0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.480
<v Speaker 2>this relationships, so they were friends going into the show,

0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.640
<v Speaker 2>and then you know, and I think the whole game

0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.240
<v Speaker 2>play thing. Tim didn't want to play the way that

0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:43.800
<v Speaker 2>is still wanted to play, and then they were having

0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.359
<v Speaker 2>all these fights and I had to step in and

0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:48.919
<v Speaker 2>try and get them to make up. And yeah, and

0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:52.040
<v Speaker 2>it is happening in it's spilled out now into the

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.800
<v Speaker 2>real world where they've been fighting, and I've had to

0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:58.640
<v Speaker 2>step in and ring him ring a spell, you know,

0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.400
<v Speaker 2>try and get them to kiss and make out. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know whether they have or not. I haven't

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.320
<v Speaker 2>spoken to them since I got back home.

0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Went out of all of these relationships as time has

0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:12.240
<v Speaker 1>gone on, Like during your time in the house, was

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 1>it quite stressful to pick sides with people? Was it

0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:17.560
<v Speaker 1>hard for you because you're such a kind and very

0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:19.639
<v Speaker 1>giving person in the way that you the way that

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.399
<v Speaker 1>you offer your friendship is very much like that in

0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:24.639
<v Speaker 1>this game of Big Brother? How hard is it for

0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Reggie to navigate all of these relationships and pick sides?

0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:29.680
<v Speaker 1>How hard was that?

0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I've got a very good gap intuition. My gather instinct

0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.920
<v Speaker 2>played a massive role my gameplay. So I could read

0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:38.800
<v Speaker 2>three people. I could read your room, and I could

0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.960
<v Speaker 2>see he was full of shit. So yeah, I could.

0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:44.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, and I use that to my advantage. And

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:49.040
<v Speaker 2>so I would say to my ag you know, ogs

0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.919
<v Speaker 2>like this one, and then again that you can't this

0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.400
<v Speaker 2>one is so full as shit, trust me, Like you've

0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.359
<v Speaker 2>got to trust me on this one, so they would

0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:00.800
<v Speaker 2>go with me and oh, jeez, read you were right,

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, like so I didn't know. Yeah, it's funny

0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 2>watching the back because you don't see all these secret

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.760
<v Speaker 2>deals that have been made and what's been happening. But

0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:12.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, I played my part, especially with Dave, like,

0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:17.359
<v Speaker 2>bless him, he just he just he trusted everyone. And

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, oh, Dave, you need to open your

0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 2>eyes a bit more, mate.

0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 1>So if you know Dave, Dave is the funniest person

0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:26.520
<v Speaker 1>because who Dave was in Big Brother is who Dave

0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 1>is in the real world.

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Like this, that's him, That's who he is. You know

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.439
<v Speaker 2>I need I'd say it, and Dave, like you just

0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:36.480
<v Speaker 2>open your eyes and listened. There was a few times

0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 2>there like he was gone against hers and I'm like, no, mate, no,

0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:44.159
<v Speaker 2>you can't do this day. But Reggie, I love this person,

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gone, I'm sorry, but you just can't do this.

0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm bless him. I'm so glad he read in and

0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I love him so much. He's beautiful.

0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:56.880
<v Speaker 1>And you also mentioned about the fact that you at

0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.760
<v Speaker 1>one point were sleeping. You're having a day sleep and

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:03.320
<v Speaker 1>you could overhear conversations that people having, and you were

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 1>quite shocked with things that you overheard. What was the

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:11.440
<v Speaker 1>most shocking thing that you overheard from housemates talking while

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 1>you were evesdropping.

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Ah, they've shown me a few times, like listening in

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:19.600
<v Speaker 2>on conversations. I wish I had heard the first one

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 2>that deal going down with Tim and Johnson, because they

0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:26.600
<v Speaker 2>showed me standing outside the treehouse Heaven. I listened, but

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear it. But that's when the big deal

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 2>happened with those guys. Yeah, there was a moment I

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 2>was in bed, I was wanting. Yeah, I was laying

0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:41.400
<v Speaker 2>down and I could hear I think it's a leisure Gabby.

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I think there was a couple other newbies on the

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 2>other side of the room, and I could hear Gabby

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:52.359
<v Speaker 2>coming for me, and no one could understand why. I was, like,

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 2>why I was going for Gabby. Why I wanted to

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 2>get because I could hear her talking about me coming

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 2>for me, and I thought, I'm going to get rid

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:02.160
<v Speaker 2>of her before she gets rid of mete.

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I think that that's I mean, I'm so glad

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:06.920
<v Speaker 1>that we finally heard that because it was a piece

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>of the puzzle that was certainly missing.

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 2>And from that moment, like when Gabby would you know,

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 2>she was the floater and she come and sit in

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.399
<v Speaker 2>on our conversations and then sleeping the other side of

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 2>the house and I'm just like, this doesn't it didn't

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 2>sit well with So, yeah, there was a piece missing

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:27.200
<v Speaker 2>that no one saw. That's why I wanted Gabby out.

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.440
<v Speaker 1>You know what's also really good is have you noticed

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that Tim Dormer seems to have a bit of a

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>renaissance with himself. It's nice to see him now believing

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 1>in himself again because over the years he sort of

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>started to doubt himself and the magic of Tim Dormer

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and he seems to be back. Is that nice to see?

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so good. Like he's so loud, like he's

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 2>so love and it's so good because he went missing

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 2>in action there for a while off social media, and

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 2>that he wanted to know obviously things were gone on

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:58.199
<v Speaker 2>in his life and wanted nothing to do with it.

0:24:58.240 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's so good that he.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I noticed something with you. I mean it's

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>a real journey that we go on after the show

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>and to get a little bit sort of personal with you.

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, there had been some times in your life

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.199
<v Speaker 1>where you'd sort of come up and come down. You

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>know what was the hardest moments between your two big

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>brother wins?

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, Ben, My hardest was it was really weird

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 2>because after the show, also you so loved, like everyone

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 2>loves you and wants to speak to you, but you

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 2>also feel very lonely at the same time, Like I

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 2>remember back in yeah, that first time, just like wow,

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 2>everyone wants me, but I'm just so lonely. It was awful.

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 2>And then and I remember I remember asking Harry and Miller.

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to go back and help the next

0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 2>lot of housemates that were coming through. I wanted to

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 2>be there for them and give them advice and help

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:53.400
<v Speaker 2>them how to deal with stuff because you were left

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 2>to been for yourself pretty much like there was no

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>help after the show, and I just didn't want any

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 2>other house to go through that. My biggest pressure, Like

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I went through depression for about two years, real bad

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 2>after like with my eyes driving, having to hand in

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 2>my driver's license, and Luke has been diagnosed with cystic fibrosis.

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that was really bad, but I managed to

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 2>pull through and not they make.

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Case things isn't it nice to be able to think,

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, those dark moments. You're like, think about how

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>if someone could just come and whisper in your ear

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and say keep going because you don't know what's around

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the corner. And yeah, it's the beautiful thing for people

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:32.919
<v Speaker 1>to take from your experience. Reg you know. I remember

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 1>reading on Facebook, you know, you put up a post

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.640
<v Speaker 1>about being quite sad one day, and I just wanted

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>to fly up to Queensland and see you, take you

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>out for a drink and remind you of the things

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that I love about you and the things that other

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:48.719
<v Speaker 1>people love about you. And I think for people listening

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to this, we do have those dark moments in our lives.

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 1>We all do, but you know we have to keep

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>going to see what's around the corner.

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm glad. Jeez, I remember when I did that.

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 2>That's when I was at my darkest point life and

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 2>I just didn't want to be here anymore. I really didn't.

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, wow, I remember the ambulance because what's

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 2>one of my friends was worried and the ambulance come

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 2>to take me away, but I didn't go with them.

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.880
<v Speaker 2>And then I'm like, oh, jeez, this is just awful,

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'm glad that I've stuck it out. Then. You know,

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 2>look what's happened now. I just got to keep going.

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>You just got to keep going. And I'm so blessed

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>to have had that opportunity to come back and do

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:30.919
<v Speaker 2>Big Brother all over again. There's no way I was

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>going to say no, There's no way in hell. So

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I was going to do it regard, you know, no

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 2>matter what hurdles I had to jump over to get

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 2>back into the house, I was going to do it regardless.

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>And we're so glad that you did.

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm so glad that I went by. Can

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 2>hear it again?

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>You know we touched on this a little bit before,

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 1>but you know, i'd really like to ask you about

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>what could change your Big Brother does come back. I've

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>always thought they should bring Big Brother into I mean,

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>of course, i'd love to see it be live for

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>audience to be able to have more control, that is important,

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>But I'd love to see some real world things happen,

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>things that happen in our lives now, like give them

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>phone so we can read their text messages on the

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>screens and make it seem more like real world with

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>the house looking like a sharehouse, less like a spaceship.

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well i'd love obviously, Look, we'd all have the

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.679
<v Speaker 2>live format to come back, and so the audience does

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 2>have more of a say in what goes on. But

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they will ever do that again.

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.360
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to bring back more of the old format

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.120
<v Speaker 2>so you get to know who their housemates are. Unfortunately,

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.479
<v Speaker 2>like the newbies, no one really got to fall in

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 2>love with the newbies because they didn't know who they

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 2>were because it was all game play. Like if they

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 2>could just cap back on this whole challenges and not

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 2>make it so much like Survivor, it'd be good to

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 2>go back to the social social experiment of what Big

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Brother is.

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if producers asked you, or if they asked you,

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>would you be willing to sit down with them and

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>give them your ideas on you know, what you think

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>could be good to change in the format.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 2>If they ever want advice, I'd love to give them advice,

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 2>but maybe maybe you know, it's the whole budgets. They

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 2>don't have the budgets like they used to do back

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 2>in the Channel teen days. I don't know, but to

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 2>bring back that whole live formula. It'd be bloody awesome.

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 2>They could even put it online, like how they loved

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>to where you could watch the housemates twenty four hours

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 2>a day. Why can't they do that?

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, apparently after the Turkey slap incident, they then became

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>really the networks became really stressed about what people could

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>see if it was being streamed twenty four hours a day.

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>But that is what people genuinely wanted, and interestingly enough

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>with my series in twenty twelve, which they then didn't

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>do in twenty thirteen or fourteen, was that they gave

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>a blog which people could follow, so at all times

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:55.719
<v Speaker 1>of every day there was someone saying exactly whatever one

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.719
<v Speaker 1>was doing, so that gave people more insight into what

0:29:59.120 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>was happening inside.

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah something, just something, because you know, they've crammed

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 2>seven days into three shows, like so much got missed,

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 2>so much got cut out, and so many funny things

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 2>that we did like it didn't get shown, which was sad,

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 2>which was sad. So you know, I think the public

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>would love to see more of that than the constant

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 2>challenges and the stretch chat.

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>What was interesting to me was I spoke to you

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>because you and I have friends. You know, obviously we

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>said we talk and Dave and I have friends, Layla

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and I have friends. So have all these friendships with

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>housemates that went into the show, and none of you

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>were allowed to tell me the specifics of what had happened,

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>And obviously we had to part them and wait till

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the show was over so we could sit down and

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>really unpack it and talk about what the experience was like.

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>But you, Dave, Layla, everyone said, you know, there's so

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>much that goes on. I can't wait forrustrated to see it.

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 1>And then everyone said, but you really missed out on

0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.719
<v Speaker 1>some of the most amazing moments of the series.

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, there's a lot. Yeah, there was a lot

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>that they didn't show. And even towards the end, Oh gosh,

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 2>it was like this he was me, he has left me,

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Tim Melisia Johnson Ras Brenton and we had this awards ceremony.

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>It was like the Golden Blows all the Oscars and

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>we got dressed up and had this award ceremony party

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't show it. I'm like, oh, but it

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 2>was so good. It would have been good to see that.

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 2>And then we you know, like we had another challenge.

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 2>It was a twenty four hour freaking challenge. This phone

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 2>box in the backyard called the Truth Booth, which we

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 2>had to run to the phone. When it rang, a

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Big Brother would say yes, like we had asked the

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 2>brother for some truth, like is this person coming for me?

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Or did someone do this? And Big Brother would give

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 2>us a yes or no answer, and that wasn't shown.

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>That sounds ot yeah, yeah, yeah, because I.

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Was like, oh, because when I first hopped into the

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.479
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what to ask. And I'm like, oh,

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm wasting my time here, I'm wasting question time and

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what to ask. And I remember when

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Alisha came out of it, her phrase was like you

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>could tell she got some juicy gossip, like she could

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 2>clarified Big rather must have clarified something up, which also

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 2>was part of the whole game play as well, because

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 2>people were finding out stuff about other housemates.

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>They dropped that stuff out and you're like, that's the

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>juicy stuff. That's if you ask any Big Brother fan

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>or people that are the Big Brother purists, the stuff

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>they want is like the really it's sort of like

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>the small everyday stuff that they can get to be

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>that's the stuff that they love the most.

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hopefully next year they'll be able to bring more

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 2>more old instead of all these brutal challenges. Oh man,

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I gave it a good heart crack then those challenges.

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I have an idea, and it was funny someone told

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 1>me that this idea had been thought of before, but

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>they really should do like a time warp and they

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 1>should travel back through the Big Brother Ages and collect

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 1>housemates from all the series, you know, throughout the series

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:11.959
<v Speaker 1>and back and an even amount of housemates from each season.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the dynamics that exist between people that have formerly

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<v Speaker 1>lived together and then haven't seen each other but now

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing it again is fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely, absolutely fascinating. Then, oh my goodness, imagine that

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<v Speaker 2>that'd be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>How much money would it cost to get chrisy Swand

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<v Speaker 1>to go back into the Big Brother House because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia wants to see you both lying in bed

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<v Speaker 1>in your pajamas.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have to get in her ear I mention that

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<v Speaker 2>we went together. People would love it.

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<v Speaker 1>They would love it, you know. I saw Chrissy yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing about her that I loved the most and

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<v Speaker 1>that has stayed with me. Is your series felt so

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<v Speaker 1>personal to me because I was living out of home

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<v Speaker 1>at that point, you know, still in my early twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>And now today, when I cook garlic in my kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm cooking speaking, the first thing I think of

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<v Speaker 1>is you and Chrissy. For some reason, I've associated the

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<v Speaker 1>smell of garlic, but the two of you laughing in.

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<v Speaker 2>Bed was a welu like he to have gone on

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<v Speaker 2>this big brother journey likee it's just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Whilst it's sometimes hard to, you know, maintain friendships with people,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so good when you get to see them again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was so good to see you see

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<v Speaker 1>Chrissy at the logis like it was such a bad was.

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<v Speaker 2>The best just like we it was like we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>left each other side. That's how it felt. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>how it felt like. When we saw each other, it

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, oh my god, it was just instant,

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<v Speaker 2>like back back to two thousand and three.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess before you go, I guess I need

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you know, what was your favorite moment of

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 1>the series. I mean, obviously winning it is a good one,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, looking back over the twenty twenty two series.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, was there a favorite Reggie moment?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Gosh, Then I think there was a few. There

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<v Speaker 2>was the moment in the room when May all our

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>s housemates for singing one night, and that was just

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<v Speaker 2>the absolute best. We'll all come together, gameplay was all

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<v Speaker 2>for the side. We were just all singing and it

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<v Speaker 2>was unbelievable. It was really good. And then I guess

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<v Speaker 2>the next one was seeing the kids on the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>That was absolutely the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you got any idea about what your life is

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<v Speaker 1>going to look like now after Big Brother? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>got any aspirations moving forward?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I I'm hoping good things are going to come

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<v Speaker 2>out of this then, and I'm hoping, you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be able to do some more TV or radio. Freeze's review.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely going to ride a book, so obviously it might

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<v Speaker 2>a back bit smart. I've got a good feeling. I

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<v Speaker 2>really had a really good feeling about it time around.

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it won't be a book, Reggie, because knowing

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<v Speaker 1>your wife, I think it's going to be a series

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<v Speaker 1>like a series of books.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely won't be one little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Regie, this is the end of our chat talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Big Brother, But it's not the end of our friendship,

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<v Speaker 1>while still be estrawing you as I always do.

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<v Speaker 2>Bless you, h m hm