1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: Well for years we knew our next guest is the 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: cravat wearing full of life judge from Master Chef whose 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: dish tasting could keep you on the edge of your seat. 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: Does he like it or doesn't? He deliciously wonderful. But 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: for a man who's been firmly in the public eye 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: for over a decade, Matt Preston's been very quiet about 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: his private life and his upbringing. He's written a memoir 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: called Big Mouth. Finally Enough. It's just been released and 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: he spills all the tea on his life. 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: Hello Matte, Matthew, and there are lots of Jacaranda storage 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to unveil right now because I know Jonesy 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: you love them. 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: So I do like them. I like them. They're they're great. 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: Actually, Matt sent me a picture of our two sons 16 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: clubbing together in Berlin. They met up in Europe during 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: the year. They've got mutual friends at various universities, so 18 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: they hung out together and obviously. 19 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: Well brought up. I learned to send the photo that 20 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: took at the beginning of the evening, not the one 21 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: at six am when they were leaving the club. 22 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: I fairly recognized my son. He had a jumper around 23 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: his shoulders. I've never seen him do that. 24 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 4: In his You have, how many kids do you have? 25 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: We never talked about you. How old are they? 26 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: I've got a twenty three at twenty and eighteen, who's 27 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: just finished exams and who's now just I believe, going 28 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: slightly drop out. Enjoy yourself, you know, and now she's 29 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: I think she's doing two or maybe three schoolies. 30 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: This is ah, that's the dream we're living vicariously through 31 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: our children. Well that's good, but your life hasn't been 32 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: an easy one. Your upbringing. There were some tough stories 33 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: you've told, and. 34 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: I think that's I think when I look at when 35 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 3: I write down all the bullet points, adoption, death of brother, 36 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: lots of family stuff going on, it sounds like it's 37 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: going to be a really But actually I come up 38 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: the end and I go, well, I reckon, Actually I've 39 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 3: been really lucky. 40 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: You know. 41 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: My mom was a single mum, but and so I 42 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: didn't have a dad until I was probably five, and 43 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: then I got adopted. But I didn't have a dad 44 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: sized hole in my life. And I look at those 45 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: friends whose fathers died, where they were nine or fifteen, 46 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: and they really really struggled with that because there's a 47 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: dad sized hole that they know, there's a sense of loss. 48 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: So I think that was the hard thing about writing 49 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: the book, was you sort of write all the things 50 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: down and then you have to go down and interrogate 51 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: what you said and said is that true? 52 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: You know? 53 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: I could have written a chapter on how terrible it 54 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: was growing up as a kid without a dad, having 55 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 3: none to get the footy too, But that's not true 56 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: because I had lots of other really strong roll onners 57 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: in life. I had lots of friends, so I didn't 58 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: sort of I didn't miss it the brother. My brother 59 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: died when he was twenty two of a thing called Suddett, 60 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: which is sudden unexplained death and epilepsy. That's the much 61 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: harder because that's the thing. But these are universal stories. 62 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I think what's interesting aout writing this book 63 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: is that I've realized that so many friends have said, oh, 64 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: I'm bizarre. Stuff like you've probably known. But my mum 65 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: was adopted, or my brother died, or my sister died 66 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: or this happened. So we just tend to we tend 67 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: to kind of keep these things hidden away, whether it's 68 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: fear of failure or aumiliation, and often that gives those 69 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: moments of power and talking about people's support you. It's 70 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: always I've liked it too. It's a bit like there's 71 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: a monster under a bed you're scared of. The more 72 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: you shine a torch on it, it actually becomes much 73 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: easier to talk about and allows other people talk about. 74 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: It as well. You were in the army. I didn't 75 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, it was a very short time. Three weeks. 76 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: I was terrible. 77 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: Was it expected of you that that would be who 78 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: you were? 79 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: You know? 80 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: You know it was expected by one side it was. 81 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: It was rejected by the other side of the family, 82 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: who weren't into the idea at all. But there was 83 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 3: no money for me to go to university. So I 84 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: wanted to go to university. I thought I had to 85 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: go to I had to get a scholarship, so I 86 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: went to there two levels of scholarship. One was like really, 87 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 3: you know, lightweight, but I would would have given me 88 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: enough to survive. The other one, I stupidly got the 89 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: big one, which required me to go to the industry rooms, 90 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: have done troon and doing a len week course in in. 91 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: Three weeks and it was terrible marching and bulging shoes and. 92 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: It was absolutely you know that you do those things 93 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: you're you're totally not cut out for. 94 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: That was one of those matters. 95 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: But you did the work and you got the scholarship. 96 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: I did the work, yeah, yeah, yeah, I. 97 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: Didn't do the army style, but if you did the 98 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: stick that was required. 99 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: I did. 100 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: I know, I got the money and then I bailed 101 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: the scholarship from after one year and thanks to my grandmother, 102 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: my grandmother lent me the money which and I paid 103 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: back so she could I could pay off that money 104 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: because I would rather live off, you know, one hundred 105 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: bucks a year than do something required me to mark 106 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: around in uniform. 107 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 4: Well they kind of frown on the cravat in the 108 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: army as well. Well, well, yes, with the navy, of course, 109 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 4: of course they like although. 110 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: Actually the cravat starts because is what Croatian mercenaries used 111 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 3: to wear to identify each other on the battlefield. All 112 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: the Crazian mercees would wear final once I would wear 113 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: red scarfs. So you didn't you didn't attack one of 114 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 3: your own mates from you know, from Croatia. 115 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 4: So when you got into Master Chef all those years ago. 116 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 4: You were right, you were like a food credit. And 117 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 4: then they said to you, right, we want you to 118 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 4: be on Master Chef and then eleven series. 119 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: Like they didn't. 120 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: They rang me up and said who should we put 121 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: a Master Chef? And I talked with the woman who 122 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 3: now my manager, who was casting it, and she was like, 123 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: tell me about these chefs of this chef and that, 124 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: because the only we're looking for two chefs mass chef, 125 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: that the judging panel was going to be a female 126 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: host and two chefs. 127 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: That was the idea. 128 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: And in the process of talking to this person about 129 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: you know, after the first hour, talking about other chefs 130 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: they should audition besides the one they've already had, they 131 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: went send us a picture. So I sent a picture 132 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: of me looking disheveled, you know, looking disapprovingly at salad 133 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: with a cravats on them. And the story goes with 134 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: no CV, with nothing just on the base of that 135 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: look that that that one picture was sent from, you know, 136 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: up the chain of command to the very top of 137 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: the line. Came back of this Mick and string a 138 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: sentence together. We'll give them another role. So suddenly went 139 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: from masterom went from two judges to three, and the 140 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: third one being me. The I like to say the 141 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: mongoose between the two copperas. 142 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: But you're not really a Salid dodger, are you telling me? 143 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 3: Like last night I had salad and see it tuna. 144 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 1: I was trying to impress my my wife. 145 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: What was the tuna to salad ratio? Though I would 146 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: say there would have been more protein in there. 147 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: No, No, it was very fine. Finally I felt it 148 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 3: was strange. She had a huge bowl of pastor and 149 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm really jealousy, but you know he's. 150 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: Going to do that. 151 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: Good on you? 152 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Well, it's always great. 153 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: You're a larger than live character, produce such a soft 154 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: you have a very beautiful saddle. 155 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 4: Anything with your time in the army, you could be 156 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: on says Australia. 157 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: Well, because I've done some. 158 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: Of the things they do in Stralia, can I tell you, Jonesy, 159 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: No you don't want to do that. No, you never 160 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: want to be thrown into it and closed room with 161 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: tear gas because why would you, as if you didn't 162 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 3: know that was a stupid idea in the first place, 163 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: why wouldst I'd like to go on this show and 164 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: have me thrown into the tearuse no, why The. 165 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 4: Only reason you go on that show is if you 166 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 4: disgrace yourself, so it could happen to. 167 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: En all three of us. Oh my god, how would 168 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: how would the three of us disgrace ourselves together? That 169 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: is that is. 170 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: The book is called Big Mouth. It's available now. Matt Preston, 171 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 4: that was disgustingly good. 172 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, look at that. That's that's a meme. 173 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: You know, no, I've seen it.