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Speaker 1: acting Assistant Commissioner James O'Brien. Good morning to you, morning, Katie. Hey.

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Speaker 1: A woman last night hospitalized by the look of things,

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Speaker 2: And my understanding is that that is now under an investigation,

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Speaker 2: So the tectives will be working on that matter today

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Speaker 2: and hopefully when she's well enough to make a statement,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So any understanding at this point as to

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Speaker 2: No, we haven't had an update this morning, but we

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Speaker 2: expect more information by later today once the detectives no more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, James, there was also in Catherine overnight a

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Speaker 1: woman's been arrested for allegedly assaulting a police officer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I haven't got the details of that through yet,

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Speaker 2: still waiting, but it's not good.

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Speaker 1: No, well, and it's and you know, it just goes

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Speaker 1: like it. Unfortunately, we seem to be seeing quite a

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Speaker 1: and assaulting our hard working police and it's it's just

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Speaker 1: woeful some of this behavior.

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Speaker 2: And what we've had just recently is we've had an

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Speaker 2: and pleaded guilty and received a two hundred dollar fine.

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Speaker 2: So wow, really seen in the message?

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Speaker 1: Is it not at all? James? I mean that's that

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Speaker 1: is a terrible situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you like, it must be tough for you guys.

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Speaker 2: It's something that we're constantly aware of in our surroundings

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Speaker 2: a situation that you have to be well aware of it.

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Speaker 2: There are people out there who have disregarded to the

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Speaker 2: police and will assault and it makes it worse when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does. And I mean then for somebody

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Speaker 1: I just think that that's pretty disgusting. Yep.

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Speaker 1: No, I would imagine it wouldn't. Hey, there is so

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Speaker 1: much to cover off on over the last couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Territory Police charging three boys age twelve, thirteen and sixteen

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Speaker 2: That just goes to show what an impact a small

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Speaker 2: take you to some other statistics the show recidivism and

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Speaker 2: twenty three, three hundred and seventy six youths were identified

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Speaker 2: So that just gives you an idea that whilst there's

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Speaker 1: That is a massive number. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Oh goodness mate. I mean that makes it hard then

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Speaker 2: That's a small group of thirty five youth. So that's

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Speaker 2: So the region remote police footprint has been enhanced to

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Speaker 2: And since we have been working more collaboratively in that space,

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Speaker 2: To well, we sent more police into What Air Four

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll keep a very close eye on that as well.

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police have charged a forty nine year old

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Speaker 2: That's correat, Katie. So that just goes to show that

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, and I recall an incident in Adelaide

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, this is a thing. You can't run away

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Speaker 2: Has been going pretty well, Katie, possibly due to our

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Speaker 2: The Acting Commissioner, Michael Murphy has a clear vision for

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: We're also recruiting constantly for auxiliaries for frontline, Jesk and Watchhouse,

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Speaker 2: so that should really bolster the frontline police presence.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how important is it for you guys to

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Speaker 2: Well, the fact is, Katie, we can always use more officers.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that we can use more officers doesn't

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Speaker 1: And James, I know that's something that the acting Police

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Speaker 1: on the show recently, is that he was doing his

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Speaker 1: level best to get some of those people back from

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Speaker 1: leave that had been on extended leave or that had

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Speaker 1: been away for various reasons, including in some cases discipline

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Speaker 1: re issues. Have you seen much of a bolstering in

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Speaker 1: terms of those numbers, Well, not.

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Speaker 2: Immediately, but we have seen an increase in communication between

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Speaker 2: those members and our HR department and seeing members. I

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Speaker 2: think it's a great plan to re engage with these

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Speaker 2: people and try and get them back to work in

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Speaker 2: some capacity, and good on mister Murphy for doing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, look, the more police that we have on

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Speaker 1: the frontline obviously are the better everybody feels. We know

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Speaker 1: that the police are working incredibly hard, and I think

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Speaker 1: when you look at all those pressure releases, will all

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Speaker 1: that info that we've seen come through over the recent

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Speaker 1: days goes to show you that we certainly need you

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Speaker 1: guys working out there hard. I mean those numbers that

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Speaker 1: you'd taken us through earlier in terms of those youths

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Speaker 1: and the level of apprehension and recidivism. I think that

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Speaker 1: there's going to be plenty of people listening this morning

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Speaker 1: who are pretty sort of surprised to hear that.

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Speaker 2: And that's the idea of this, Katie, is to get

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Speaker 2: the information out to the people so that they can

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Speaker 2: be fully informed on what's going on in their community.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Acting Assistant Commissioner James O'Brien, good to catch

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Speaker 1: up with you again, and no doubt we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you again soon.

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Speaker 2: You too, Katie, You too.