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Speaker 1: Great new series coming to stand on Ansaic Day, in fact, Monday,

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Speaker 1: April twenty five. Billy the Kid such a great story.

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Speaker 1: Never gets old, this stuff. And one of the stars

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Speaker 1: is our own Daniel Webber. Hello, Daniel, Hey, guys, thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us. Now, Tom Bliss stars as Billy. You

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Speaker 1: play the outlaw Jesse Evans. What's his story?

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Speaker 2: So, Jesse is you could say he's responsible for bringing

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Speaker 2: Billy the Kid into the Lincoln Cany War, and as

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Speaker 2: most people know, he came out of the County War

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Speaker 2: as this mythic figure Billy the Kid. He's the gang

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Speaker 2: leader that he runs a gang called the Seven Rivers,

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Speaker 2: and at the time, in the eighteen sixties, they were

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Speaker 2: the most notorious bunch of ruffians.

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Speaker 3: They would still cattle and just basically cause a whole

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Speaker 3: lot of trouble in the New Mexico region.

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Speaker 2: And so he's the firebrand trying to lure to Billy

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Speaker 2: to the dark side.

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Speaker 1: I guess these guys were real American Old West guns,

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Speaker 1: bad fights and bad dudes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's troublemakers, which is part of the fun.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think you know what I've seen

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Speaker 2: in most of westerns.

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Speaker 3: It's focused on the.

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Speaker 2: Heroes and the bad guy. He's the bad guy.

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Speaker 3: It's quite generic.

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Speaker 2: And so what's really interesting about this show is we

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Speaker 2: are diving into looking at these figures who were in

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Speaker 2: some way lights on society at the time, but just

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Speaker 2: kind of looking at the antihero and you know, examining

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Speaker 2: Billy a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: He's often portrayed in the fairly crude.

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Speaker 2: Way in history, the other I guess a saint almost

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Speaker 2: or a villainous, demon like figure. And so Michael Hurst,

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Speaker 2: who created Vikings, has painted this beautiful portrait which which

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Speaker 2: I think balances the two opposing views, but also shows

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Speaker 2: some really interesting nuance. And you know, his relationship with

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Speaker 2: his mother, and his journey across from New York as

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Speaker 2: a young boy, the fact that he's a you know,

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Speaker 2: you had aautiful singing voice and loved by the ladies.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's just some really interesting bits of characters

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Speaker 2: that I don't think many people know because we just

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Speaker 2: get this really black and white poor drop.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know it was from New York.

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Speaker 4: Dig a little bit deeper.

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Speaker 1: So you've already surprised.

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Speaker 4: There you go, Dan, you as an active by preparing

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Speaker 4: for this one did you have to have a bit

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Speaker 4: of a user word roughian, bit of ruffian attitude. You

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Speaker 4: walk around with the six shooter for a few months.

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Speaker 3: What did you do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people were probably a bit sick of me by

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Speaker 2: the end of it. Door swinning about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's part and past a love it. I

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Speaker 2: would have the stunt guys coming up to me like

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Speaker 2: you're a real you know, you're a real brad, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: So I kind of picked my few of them. I

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Speaker 2: was like, I'm doing something right. If these sort of

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Speaker 2: tough rodeo rider guys that are all looking at me

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Speaker 2: in that way, I might be under something there.

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Speaker 1: Did you have to learn how to ride horse?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I was lucky.

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Speaker 3: I grew up racing horses. Yeah. We used to do

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Speaker 3: long distance and Juris rits growing up.

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Speaker 2: So that it was just it was more like coming

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Speaker 2: a kid again, you know, getting back from the hall.

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Speaker 3: It's probably been been twenty years for.

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Speaker 1: Me all right now with shows like Yellowstone, which is

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Speaker 1: also on the stand, but people love it, movies like

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Speaker 1: Power of the Dog. Is it safe to say Westerns,

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Speaker 1: whether they be modern or historical, of having a bit

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Speaker 3: Hey, I hope so so lovely. Yeah, I mean those

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Speaker 3: are amazing shows.

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Speaker 2: And I think I haven't seen Yellowstone.

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Speaker 3: I No.

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Speaker 2: Power of the Dog sort of is rewriting a bit

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Speaker 3: Think we're doing the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I think I never gravitated towards Westerns growing up because

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Speaker 2: they were a little bit too formulaic, Yeah, obvious, pretty rote,

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Speaker 2: and I think we're getting a little bit more of

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Speaker 2: a nuanced view on the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, for example, we Billy the Kid.

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Speaker 2: The Lincoln County War itself is one of the most

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Speaker 2: fascinating periods, like the private wars that happened, and the

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Speaker 2: bureaucracy and the politics that sort of is all behind.

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Speaker 2: I figure, like Billy the Kid, that sort of thing is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a prize. We haven't had a story

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Speaker 2: told about it yet, so it's nice to be bringing

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Speaker 2: it to the screen. But yeah, I think there's more

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Speaker 2: nuanced in what we're trying to tell these days, and

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Speaker 2: I think people are pretty excited about that.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot more than just this town day

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Speaker 1: big enough for both of us, and you know, the

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Speaker 1: guns at twenty paces at the saloon doors in the

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Speaker 1: saloon doors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well and Billiant Jesse. Their relationships are really

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Speaker 2: interesting one in history.

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Speaker 3: I mean they've talked about impacts.

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Speaker 2: Garrett's book and many other books about being best of friends,

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Speaker 2: but then they become sort of bitter enemies, and then

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Speaker 2: they become friends, and it's this really complex, almost brotherly

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Speaker 2: sort of love hate jealousy sort of relationship. And they

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Speaker 2: were both so competitively equal. They got both about as

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Speaker 2: good as you can be with a gun, and their

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Speaker 2: journey is really interesting, you know of itself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, Daniel, last time we saw you in a

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Speaker 4: gang it was rather different. It was the Motley Crue Gang.

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Speaker 3: I love still wearing leather though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Abe laughed so.

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Speaker 4: Much more bills, girls, girls and loud guitars and you

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Speaker 4: as Vince Neil and they're playing the lead, the blonde lead.

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Speaker 3: Whatley Crue Yep.

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Speaker 1: So much fun some of those scenes, the next level.

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Speaker 1: What was it like being a part.

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Speaker 2: Of that film. I think it took me about a

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Speaker 2: year to recover.

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Speaker 4: It's debauchery.

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Speaker 2: It's a bit of insanity. I mean it's not that

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Speaker 2: long ago, but I keep putting it back and like

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Speaker 2: that with me and my youth, old it was so

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Speaker 2: much fun. Honestly, we had an absolute blast. Hopefully you

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Speaker 2: can tell.

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Speaker 3: Down there it was. It was almost too much fun

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Speaker 3: to be allowed.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was method acting, that's for sure. It was Whatley.

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Speaker 2: Crue, Kelly Home, Shenanigan. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, if if you haven't seen the Dirt, do yourself

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Speaker 1: a favor. And of course Billy the Kid premieres on

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Speaker 1: ans Ac Day, Monday, April twenty five on Stan Daniel

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Speaker 1: Lovely to chat to you.

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Speaker 2: We look forward just saying the shy thanks guys, Yeah, cheers,

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Speaker 2: I look forward to it. To have a good day

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Speaker 2: you too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds great. Digging deeper into the characters, not

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Speaker 4: just the cliches of a wisdom