WEBVTT - FULL SHOW: Mitch got INSULTED while getting a facial 💆

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, hello everybody, my girls, Hello, have you Wednesday?

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<v Speaker 2>What a time to be alive. Well, it's not technically

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<v Speaker 2>not for me. In my community.

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<v Speaker 3>Today we've been struck it down again from the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>power in Vatican, the Vatican City, the Pope today.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard some devastating you haven't seen it yet?

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<v Speaker 2>What happens?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Mitch, Yeah, the Pope today has been found in

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<v Speaker 3>a second secret recording to have used a slur against

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<v Speaker 3>gay people. I'm a gay man. This is the second

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<v Speaker 3>time he said for I'll get ginny the Pope, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a slur.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a terrible slur, but when you say it in Italian,

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<v Speaker 1>it just kind of sounds like a lovely pastors.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a dish. You can get it, Toddy also, because.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I was thinking. It sounds like fetaccini with friend.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's a very very hateful slur that people would

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<v Speaker 1>use against gay people, and it starts with the letter F.

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<v Speaker 4>What you can read between the lines, we probably can't.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought frocini was the slur in Italian and I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, no, it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It is how you say that word in Italian. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>my guy got it.

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<v Speaker 3>You are homophobic and you were undulingo trying to learn Italian.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a word that would potentially pop up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just devastated because he was meant to be woke pope.

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<v Speaker 5>But he cares that he's caught out or do you

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<v Speaker 5>think anyone tells him, Hey, there's been some broken news, Pope.

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<v Speaker 1>But also the Pope is supposedly infallible, so he can't

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<v Speaker 1>be wrong. So unfortunately that's that doesn't bode well for you, doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Man who scolds the pope?

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<v Speaker 4>God?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, God doesn't care about the froggis she does. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>all the frog is out there.

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<v Speaker 4>I love you all, and we love you here at

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<v Speaker 4>the pickup. That's all that matters. Look, coming up, I've

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<v Speaker 4>got a very.

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<v Speaker 1>Look something that's very very important to me, important to

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<v Speaker 1>my family, and we've been speaking about this on the

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<v Speaker 1>up over the last little bit. But something that we

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<v Speaker 1>have been touching on has made a real difference to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you, and that's something we're gonna share next.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's your special laws. Yeah, Prady, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get to that next.

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<v Speaker 2>Here at the pick up.

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<v Speaker 3>Around Australia, we go to the pickup delicially tut us out.

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<v Speaker 1>At the Pope back after this, everyone, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>really special one for me. So if you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the show a couple of weeks ago, I shared that

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<v Speaker 1>my stepdad, Neil, is currently going through palliative care and

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<v Speaker 1>that's because he was diagnosed with prostate cancer. It has

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<v Speaker 1>been it's been eight years now since he was diagnosed,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been such a journey and we're at the

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<v Speaker 1>tail end of that. This is a discussion we had

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<v Speaker 1>on the show a couple of weeks back. By the

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<v Speaker 1>time we found out about it as a family, it

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<v Speaker 1>was already stage four prostate cancer. And he's young, he's

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five. The reason why I wanted to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this is because if us speaking about it and saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>speak to your dad's about getting his prostate checked, speak

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<v Speaker 1>to your husband about it, if that saves one family

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<v Speaker 1>from going through what our family is going through, and

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation is worthwhile.

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<v Speaker 5>And it was so nice of you to share that, Laura,

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<v Speaker 5>because I imagine it's not easy, but it's such an

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<v Speaker 5>important message at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean for us, Like I didn't just want

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<v Speaker 1>to share this to update you on what's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>In our household, like in our family tragedies.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason why I wanted to talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>is because very often we don't speak about we don't

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<v Speaker 1>speak about hard topics with our dads, especially especially when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to things about prostate cancer. I would I

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<v Speaker 1>would put money on it that very few people sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in their cars or wherever you're listening to this right now,

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<v Speaker 1>have ever caught up their dad and said, hey, dad,

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<v Speaker 1>when did you last have your PSA tested? When did

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<v Speaker 1>you last have your prostate checked? Because it's kind of awkward,

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird, And that has been the most important thing

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<v Speaker 1>to me is getting this message out that let's stop

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<v Speaker 1>making it awkward. Let's try and have these conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>our dads, because it could absolutely save their life and

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<v Speaker 1>it would mean that, you know, if it stops one

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<v Speaker 1>family from being in the situation that we currently are

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<v Speaker 1>with my step dad, then it will have made all

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<v Speaker 1>of the difference. And it was really vulnerable to have

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation on a couple of weeks back. But we

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<v Speaker 1>have received such an outpouring from you guys, from so

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<v Speaker 1>many listeners who said that they went home that evening

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<v Speaker 1>they called their dads or they sent them a text.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm so grateful to everybody who has done that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope that we can keep spreading the word.

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<v Speaker 2>I did that.

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<v Speaker 3>I text my dad mar Churi, Oh my dad, have

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<v Speaker 3>you done it? And he was great. He's like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a blood test now, and I'm like, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think it is. And he went called his doctor and

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<v Speaker 3>he had another check up. Like all because of the conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my dad was the same big Tones was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>possum every two years, I've done it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, wow, what are relief? A good dad,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But also we had the full spectrum. We had some

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<v Speaker 1>people message in saying that asked their dads. Their dads

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<v Speaker 1>had never been to go and get a test done.

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<v Speaker 1>We had some people whose dads were a bit like

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, weird conversation, but you know, thanks sweetheart, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>Dalin for the for thinking of me.

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<v Speaker 4>I've just went a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of those, one of those people, one of

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<v Speaker 1>those listeners who did have that conversation with their dad

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<v Speaker 1>was Maddie.

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<v Speaker 4>She gave us a call, Maddie, welcome to the pick up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ads, here you go. There are, You're going, We're good.

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<v Speaker 3>So you had this conversation with your dad after hearing

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<v Speaker 3>Laws talking about her experience.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, So I heard Laws talking about it and

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh, I better give that a call

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<v Speaker 6>after work. So gave me my bars and was just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>heard this really sad story on the radio, but like

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<v Speaker 6>just making sure you've had it your checks and hey,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know his typo Man New sixties, and he

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<v Speaker 6>was like, oh, I do want to talk about that,

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<v Speaker 6>like you know, chip your nose out of it kind

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<v Speaker 6>of thing. And I was like come on. And my mum,

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<v Speaker 6>good old mom, piped up and she was like, well, actually,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm pretty sure you got that blood test form from

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<v Speaker 6>the doctor like two months ago, and I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 6>it's still sitting on the kitchen counter.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was like, well, that's like it's such a

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<v Speaker 6>typical dad thing. And I was like, well, come on then, Dad,

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<v Speaker 6>and I actually had a like my own blood test.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't get my eye checks, nothing too exciting, and

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, come on tomorrow morning, I'm going.

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<v Speaker 7>To pick you up.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll go get our blood test on together and then

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<v Speaker 6>we can go get wrecky because they had to do

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<v Speaker 6>like a fasting.

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<v Speaker 8>One my dad in a order date for blood tests.

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<v Speaker 6>It's actually really nice means the blood test, but it's

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<v Speaker 6>a blood test.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, yeah, you were good and it forced.

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<v Speaker 6>Him to do it. He got his results. They were

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<v Speaker 6>all good, which is obviously great needs but it's like,

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<v Speaker 6>what good is it sitting on the kitchen counter?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, And Maddie when you wrote that in like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so grateful for you sharing that, because I would

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<v Speaker 1>dare say that there's so many men out there who

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<v Speaker 1>have received their reminder and like, you know, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's not going to be me, so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that important. And then they put it, you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>the back burner, and then weeks turn into months, months

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<v Speaker 1>turn into years, and that very much is the situation

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<v Speaker 1>with my step dad. And I love that now it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that you're able to talk about with your dad

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't have to be a big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a blood test.

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<v Speaker 8>But do you know which is another I feel like

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<v Speaker 8>there's another message in this.

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't even know if you realized you just

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<v Speaker 5>said it, but you said, hey, have you had it done?

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<v Speaker 8>He was like, oh, I'm not sure don't want to

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<v Speaker 8>talk about it.

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<v Speaker 5>And then your mom still wasn't even positive that that's

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<v Speaker 5>what the blood test was.

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<v Speaker 8>She's like, oh, I think you have a referral for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Like the fact that it is just not front and

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<v Speaker 5>center on anyone's mind is something we also need to realize,

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<v Speaker 5>like we need to be so proactive with our own health,

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<v Speaker 5>let alone, like you shouldn't have to look after someone else.

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<v Speaker 5>But the fact that your mum was like, oh, that's right,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I think that was something to do with prostate cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and soya, men, not up to the women in

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<v Speaker 3>your life to remind you to get your blood test done.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you've got to be an advocate for your

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<v Speaker 3>own health.

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<v Speaker 2>Go get the tests.

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, statistically it's just not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that most men avoid going to the doctors

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<v Speaker 1>and so and I really I cannot overstress this enough.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a dad who you love, if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a husband and they're in that age range, like,

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<v Speaker 1>please go home and have the conversation with them, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I would hate for there to be another family

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<v Speaker 1>in the situation that we're in, and statistically they will be,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are currently so please speak to your dads,

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<v Speaker 1>speak to your husbands, speak to your uncles.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's make this a normal conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well said, we love your loss. You got to knail too.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, there's a lady out there in Australia that has

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<v Speaker 3>deeply offended me and she doesn't even know she's done it.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're listening to this, you bumped into meet

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<v Speaker 3>the beautician this week, I'm coming for you because shocking.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say, does it count if someone offends

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<v Speaker 5>you but doesn't know?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's maybe that's the conundrum.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you can help me here because I went to

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<v Speaker 3>get a facial at the putition I go to all

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<v Speaker 3>the time at tw skin love them when I pay,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I love of what a.

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<v Speaker 4>Modern man you are, how you were always like.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of the three of us, Brick goes the most,

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<v Speaker 1>You go the second most, and I wish I went

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<v Speaker 1>at least once in a while.

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<v Speaker 8>Which is also a gay man, so he takes a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Pride in his I have to actually don't even want to.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you get done?

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<v Speaker 3>I get a lot done. I get microdermabrasion, I get

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<v Speaker 3>full facials.

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<v Speaker 2>I got.

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<v Speaker 3>A laser done, like I love it. I get it

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<v Speaker 3>all done. So I was practically glowing. I walked in

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<v Speaker 3>and had an hour session.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing. Can't fault them.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm sitting out in the reception area at the

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<v Speaker 3>checkout desk and my phone won't pay passed with Apple Pay,

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<v Speaker 3>like there was a technical error, and the pautician, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have the money in my cat and the beautician goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this happens from time to time. I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 3>out the back and get the other doungle will reboot it,

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<v Speaker 3>just like take a seat, chill out. So I'm taking

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<v Speaker 3>a seat at the entry to the butautician and another

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<v Speaker 3>lady walks in and she sits down next to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, when you're at the beautician and you

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<v Speaker 3>get so excited that you're getting a treatment done. It's

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<v Speaker 3>very rare that working people can go in and get

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<v Speaker 3>a facial. So we're both sitting there and she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, Like you know, I'm so excited with this.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't had one in ages.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the complete opposite to me. I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk to people in waiting rooms. You're sitting there making

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<v Speaker 1>having small talk.

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<v Speaker 2>I bring it up.

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<v Speaker 3>She started talking to me, so I was like, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>talk back to it. I'm not going to be rude,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm waiting to pay him. I'm almost done glowing.

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<v Speaker 3>I look like a light bulb. And then she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>have you been here before? I'm like, yeah, I've been

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<v Speaker 3>here a couple of times. She's like, you were going

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<v Speaker 3>to love it, and like, honey, looking at you, you

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<v Speaker 3>look like you need this.

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<v Speaker 2>You look exhausted. You were going to come out feeling incredible,

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<v Speaker 2>and you already had it. And I just like, I

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<v Speaker 2>just got the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Face was like bright because every time you leave a beautician,

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<v Speaker 1>your face.

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<v Speaker 4>Is always bright red. You look like you're being slapped.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I was glowing, and I didn't have the

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<v Speaker 3>heart to tell her, and I went, oh, yeah, busy week.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the lady goes fix the Donglo pay pass it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just leave.

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<v Speaker 3>So this lady is just sitting there going she's gone,

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<v Speaker 3>you should.

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<v Speaker 1>Go back in and have it done again, because I

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<v Speaker 1>clearly didn't work val beforehand.

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<v Speaker 5>It reminds me of like when I used to go

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<v Speaker 5>through because I do a lot of skincare, like Laura said,

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<v Speaker 5>And so after I've had mine done, and I also

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<v Speaker 5>feel glowy and beautiful, and if I've had my lashes done,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe I'm like, I'm going sands makeup, not a scaric

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<v Speaker 5>of makeup, because I'm owning this.

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<v Speaker 4>I look amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>And then without doubt, every time someone will say to me,

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<v Speaker 5>oh you look sick, you look I'm well, have you

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<v Speaker 5>been okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you okay? Every time I don't wear makeups, someone's like,

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<v Speaker 4>are you all right? And I'm like, yes, I'm living

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<v Speaker 4>my dream right now.

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<v Speaker 5>But every single time I don't wear makeup and I

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<v Speaker 5>think I'm killing it, someone brings me down a notch hat.

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<v Speaker 2>People just don't comment on people's lives, Okay, good.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're talking about beautician things. For me, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>so much like the other people who go to beautitians.

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<v Speaker 1>I think beauticians themselves give people insecurities. You'll be laying there,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have had something else done, like maybe you've

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<v Speaker 1>just gotten a laser done, and then they'll look at

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<v Speaker 1>you and they go, oh, you know, next time you

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<v Speaker 1>come in, we're going to do something about your crow's feet.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you go home and you're like, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>even know I.

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<v Speaker 2>Had crows feet, and you're what crow feet?

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<v Speaker 1>Every time you leave the beautician, you have a new insecurity,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that just like forges you through to the

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<v Speaker 1>next time you go to the beautician.

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<v Speaker 5>Speaking of I was getting laser hair removal on the

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<v Speaker 5>downstairs legs and the downstairs Yeah, just the downstairs. And

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<v Speaker 5>then when I rolled over to do the back of

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<v Speaker 5>my legs, she goes, oh, we're doing the air and

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<v Speaker 5>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what can you see?

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't it that made you say that right now?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you did say the Hollywood the whole of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Plug.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone's got hair down there, brite, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, wait, it like, at least I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't insecure about that boiler right then.

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<v Speaker 3>I am, now, but that means you've got to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're doing polites. That means that would have been

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<v Speaker 3>visible hair.

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<v Speaker 1>At least she didn't ask you if you wanted a

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<v Speaker 1>labbyect to me, Okay, let's just that's enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Has it happened to you? No, sorry, But the way

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<v Speaker 2>you said that.

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<v Speaker 4>I did it sound like you. When Laura went in

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<v Speaker 4>to get a crowsbeat down, they're like lab after two kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be surprised or got a haircut, like if

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<v Speaker 3>you can see the lobby active me, that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, No, next up, we're talking Sam Fisher.

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<v Speaker 5>He shared a story with us recently and we haven't

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<v Speaker 5>been able to stop thinking about.

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<v Speaker 4>We all know Sam. We love Sam.

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<v Speaker 3>This song ready said, he's going to bring you. Think

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<v Speaker 3>someone who can put out this beautiful music is smart.

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<v Speaker 3>You know he knows exactly what he's doing in his life.

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<v Speaker 3>Turns out not the case. We'll hear from Sam next

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<v Speaker 3>on the pickup. A couple of weeks ago, we had

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<v Speaker 3>good friend of the show on with us, Sam Fisher,

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<v Speaker 3>Is I mean, can't that man do aside from not

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<v Speaker 3>get hanged because he tols.

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<v Speaker 2>This a hacking? Sorry, that shocked us. Because he's a

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<v Speaker 2>smart boy.

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<v Speaker 5>He got scammed big time online and I was surprised.

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<v Speaker 5>There are some sophisticated scams going around, but this wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>one of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Have listened.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, So this was like five pm in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm in the UK. I get a text saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 9>did you spend five hundred and forty one dollars and

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<v Speaker 9>whatever sense at this place in Austin, and I was like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 9>and it looks so legit, and normally I'm on it.

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<v Speaker 9>Normally I'm like googling the anonymous phone number to see

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<v Speaker 9>where it is. I just didn't for some reason because

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<v Speaker 9>I was in a I was in a songwriting session,

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<v Speaker 9>I was working. I was like no, And then they

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<v Speaker 9>sent another text that was did you spend one hundred

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<v Speaker 9>and whatever dollars in this place in Texas?

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<v Speaker 4>Escalating?

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<v Speaker 9>Now I'm in EXAs, and then it was like call

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<v Speaker 9>this number and it was like from my bank. And

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<v Speaker 9>I called and they had the exact same automated voice,

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<v Speaker 9>and so then I was literally on the phone for

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<v Speaker 9>like hours and they were like, oh, we know, we

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<v Speaker 9>need to do security questions.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was a real person. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>day is Sam.

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<v Speaker 9>It was a real person, and it was like I

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<v Speaker 9>spoke to them and they were like, what's your like

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<v Speaker 9>mother's maiden name, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>What's like?

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<v Speaker 3>And you thought you were verifying because the answer, but

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<v Speaker 3>here's where I should have stopped.

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<v Speaker 9>So I would give an answer, and then I would

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<v Speaker 9>get a security code and they'd be like can you

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<v Speaker 9>read me the car? And I was like, yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 9>and let me tell you, it was like, oh, that

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<v Speaker 9>didn't work, so let's try it again, because obviously, like

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<v Speaker 9>the geo tagging or whatever was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, ping, this is not where Sam is.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and so they got into my online banking and

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<v Speaker 9>they still fourteen thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh got fourteen k My god, that hurts the poor guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's never nice, that realization of like, oh, my god,

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<v Speaker 5>I got done.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think if that was me, I reckon I

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<v Speaker 4>would have done the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually want.

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<v Speaker 4>On your messages.

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<v Speaker 5>Ever, if you're listening at home, ask you for your

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<v Speaker 5>banking details and passwords, don't give it to them. I know,

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<v Speaker 5>but I also think it's so some of them are

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<v Speaker 5>so good these days. You get those text messages and

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<v Speaker 5>they're often just waiting for a coincidence. Like I almost

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<v Speaker 5>got done by Australia Posts, which obviously was an Australia

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<v Speaker 5>Post but it said you know, you've got to pass

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<v Speaker 5>or pick up, you've got to put these details in.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was actually waiting for an Australia Post package

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<v Speaker 1>that day that I was expecting, and so when I

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<v Speaker 1>logged onto it, it was only that I realized that

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<v Speaker 1>the URL.

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<v Speaker 4>Looked a little bit off.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I hadn't looked at it, and I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>popped up on my phone, I don't think I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>think I would have gone ahead and been like update

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<v Speaker 1>my email address and update.

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<v Speaker 4>They would have got me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, on thirteen six five.

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<v Speaker 3>The hackers get you because they're getting everyone you talked to,

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<v Speaker 3>not even oldies like it happens to old people.

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<v Speaker 2>Young.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got friends my age and then mid twenties are

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<v Speaker 3>getting happy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my nana did get scammed as well. But it

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<v Speaker 4>was a good one.

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<v Speaker 5>It was one of those ones where it's like if

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<v Speaker 5>you don't know, it was like, hey, it's like my mum,

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<v Speaker 5>your daughter, Hey, my phone's not working.

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<v Speaker 8>I can't pay I'm at the shops at the counter

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<v Speaker 8>right now. My Apple page work. Can you just transferm

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<v Speaker 8>me one hundred?

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<v Speaker 2>But whatever, it was, Hey, thirteen one six five.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Kaylee, what happened to you? Did you get scammed?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, technically it was my boyfriend, but he thought he

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<v Speaker 7>was doing a nice thing for me. I ride horses,

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<v Speaker 7>and he thought it would be really cute to buy

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<v Speaker 7>me shares in a race horse and then we'd like

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<v Speaker 7>sit down together and watch it race and like how

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<v Speaker 7>schamp is to get and it was just like a

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<v Speaker 7>que date thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, this is yeah, he can wash horse racing on

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<v Speaker 4>the weekend.

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<v Speaker 7>But you liked it too, that's okay. It was something

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<v Speaker 7>we could do together, and I did think it was cute.

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<v Speaker 7>I was a little bit like weirded out by it

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<v Speaker 7>because I'm like, you're buying shares and a race horse,

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<v Speaker 7>Like are we going there? Like? Anyway, turns out that

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<v Speaker 7>horse was solely owned and he never bought shares in Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>No much money.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was like one hundred a month. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>a lot because it was meant to be like people

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<v Speaker 7>like multiple people.

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<v Speaker 2>Own and you get like you had a horse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but also was it a case that the horse

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<v Speaker 1>started winning and you were like where's my money and

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<v Speaker 1>then didn't come like at what point did you.

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<v Speaker 7>Ren So we didn't get to there. What we realized

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<v Speaker 7>was the horse that it said it was owned by

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<v Speaker 7>a soul person. So we were like going to say.

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<v Speaker 3>You think I've never heard of investing in a horse,

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<v Speaker 3>Like everyone was on that bitcoin craze, but no.

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<v Speaker 2>One was on the horse investments.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, it's the up and comer image on thirteen, imagen,

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<v Speaker 3>did you get scammed?

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<v Speaker 5>Hello?

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<v Speaker 10>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>My dad did.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened here?

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<v Speaker 11>He got one of those text messages that told me

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<v Speaker 11>want an iPhone?

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess he didn't win an iPhone?

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<v Speaker 10>No shocker, I know, crazy, No, So you know, det

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<v Speaker 10>House gave him all the wrong information. He really shouldn't

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<v Speaker 10>have U and yeah, no iPhone And a bit of

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<v Speaker 10>money spend on the credit card makes money?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you lose?

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<v Speaker 11>It was like I think it was like a couple grands,

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<v Speaker 11>like two three thousand dollars, So it's gonna hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>That's so bad. You feel so silly afterwards too.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so like on the other extreme now, I'm so

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<v Speaker 5>worried about being scammed that, like recently I thought I

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<v Speaker 5>was being scammed by the toll LinkedIn like Lyn's company,

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<v Speaker 5>and I ignored it for like a year because I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 8>You're not getting me scammers anyway. I owed thousands of

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<v Speaker 8>dollars in tolls.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently it was it was so important to be literate

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<v Speaker 3>with these things, and.

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<v Speaker 4>It's they're that good. Sometimes it's hard to know which

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<v Speaker 4>is real and.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is faith and if you're bring any Hockley you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to prison.

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<v Speaker 4>But for the other reason, abating pay been served like

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<v Speaker 2>We are done on that note. Here at the pickup,

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<v Speaker 2>you can podcast the show. If you're just tuning in.

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<v Speaker 2>You thought, whatever that was, I want more of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to hear it again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh just more, maybe just the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 4>They could get a replay on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all there. Just search the pick up on our

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<v Speaker 2>Heeart Radio. See you tomorrow, goodbye, shuts out.