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Speaker 1: The Wiggles acknowledge the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia

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Speaker 1: and their connections to land, see and community. We pay

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Speaker 1: our respects to elders, past, present and emerging.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Wiggle Talk, a podcast for parents. I'm so impriced.

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Speaker 2: I'm the Red Wiggle.

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Speaker 3: Hello, I'm lucky.

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Speaker 4: Oh you've decided to join us.

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Speaker 5: I was waiting to.

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Speaker 3: Hear six before.

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Speaker 4: Joke.

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Speaker 6: I love it, I love every time. I'm lucky Gillespie

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Speaker 6: the Purple Wiggles.

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Speaker 4: Are you Locky?

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Speaker 7: I think I'm right on.

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Speaker 3: Six foot with these.

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Speaker 6: I've got big shoes on today, six six and a

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Speaker 6: little bit for today's simo. I know so many people

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Speaker 6: get excited hearing his voice still, but we're tatting to Greg,

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Speaker 6: the original Yellow Wiggle, Greg Page about his time in

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Speaker 6: the Wiggles, the unforgettable moments, what it's been like the

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Speaker 6: whole time.

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Speaker 3: And Anthony's going to join us as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be great.

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Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to It's going to be great

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Speaker 2: having Anthony and Greg in the room together. Before we

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Speaker 2: get into it, Lockie, I've said this before. I've got

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Speaker 2: a new car, Yes, and the car has senses all

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Speaker 2: over it, like it beaks at me all the time.

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Speaker 4: There's an app that rates my driving.

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Speaker 3: How are you going so well?

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Speaker 2: I'm in the ninety I think it's heading down. But

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Speaker 2: there's the sensor in the back of the car with

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Speaker 2: the boot. So if you've got your hands full of shopping. Oh,

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Speaker 2: then you can wave your foot underneath the boot and

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Speaker 2: the boot opens. I cannot for the life and we

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Speaker 2: figure out which way I have to wave my leg

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Speaker 2: to open the boot. There's a certain way you do

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Speaker 2: it to open it and to close it, and you

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Speaker 2: swish your leg underneath. Nothing happens, you fall off balance,

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Speaker 2: You've I'm actually doing it now without shopping, just to

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Speaker 2: try to figure it out. I must look ridiculous because

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Speaker 2: I'm standing there in a car park wave my leg.

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Speaker 3: Does a car have to be unlocked?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, if you're holding the key, it'll do it because

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Speaker 2: it sensors the key. Wow, I'm just swish in my

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Speaker 2: leg and then I think I've sorted it out. You

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Speaker 2: and then left to right the other way to close it,

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Speaker 2: and I think I get it, and then I try

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Speaker 2: it again and doesn't work.

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Speaker 4: And it just beats twice at me. It won't anyway, that's.

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Speaker 3: Does it have to be under the car like a

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Speaker 3: good radius.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes it does, and sometimes it responds quite well

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Speaker 2: to it, and other times it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: It could be a faulty sensor.

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Speaker 5: It could be sure.

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Speaker 4: It's nothing to do with my swushing.

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Speaker 3: That's great, So yeah, OK's when you're holding shopping when

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Speaker 2: You can just swish your leg apparently with so much

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Speaker 2: ease that it opens a book without having to worry

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Speaker 2: about your hands. But I haven't quite worked it out.

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Speaker 2: But now maybe after this you come out and I'd

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 6: Greg Page is one of the founding members of The Wiggles.

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Speaker 6: If you grow up in the nineties, you probably would

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Speaker 6: have spent a lot of time singing with his beautiful

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Speaker 6: voice in the Yellow Skivvy. But what was it really

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Speaker 6: like starting one of the world's most famous children's entertainment groups.

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Speaker 2: Well, today Greg's here to take us behind the scenes

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Speaker 2: of his time in the Wiggles, how it all began,

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Speaker 2: some of his favorite memories, and the fun sometimes a

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Speaker 2: lot of fun and sometimes crazy fun, a lot of

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Speaker 2: moments of being on stage with the gang, and of

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Speaker 2: course Anthony's joining us to relive some of those moments too, So.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 4: Great.

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Speaker 6: Well, this is a fairly special moment in Wiggle Talk history, Simon.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the room just got a lot smaller.

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Speaker 6: Why we have today joining us Greg and Anthony. Good morning,

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Speaker 6: good afternoon, good day.

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Speaker 4: It's good day to you.

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Speaker 7: You know, after all these years we still speak over Richard,

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Speaker 2: Has been it's been a lot of years since you've

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Speaker 7: Well, it was a long time ago, long time ago.

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Speaker 7: Greg was doing a music report from Ahso so I

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Speaker 7: would have been year eleven, have been green eight. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and when you were speaking to Johnny Field about the Cockroach, Yes,

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Speaker 7: our rock band that we had about the you know,

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Speaker 7: which he's the right guy to speak to you because

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Speaker 7: he was running the music. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: And look, I mean I think that's one of the

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Speaker 8: things that I loved about the Cockroaches, and in a

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Speaker 8: way it has kind of permeated into the Wiggles, the

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Speaker 8: accessibility of music and song and the Cockroaches songs were

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Speaker 8: always so easy to love because they were about fun

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Speaker 8: the guys themselves were okay as well. They were nice

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Speaker 8: stuff blokes. But yeah, I was studying when other people

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Speaker 8: were doing Mozart and Bark and chopin, I was doing the.

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Speaker 5: Cockroads some kind of girl.

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Speaker 7: Did you get a pass?

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Speaker 8: I got a seventy two or something for that piece

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Speaker 8: of work. So I mean, poor Johnny. He spent about

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Speaker 8: three hours locked in a room with me at Mendal

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Speaker 8: Management one day, but he gave me the answers that

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Speaker 8: The poor I've never apologized to him, but I must

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Speaker 2: And then a friendship formed between yourself and Anthony in

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Speaker 2: those early years.

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, like did you then go along to a lot

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Speaker 2: of cockroaches gigs? And is that? How did kind of

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Speaker 7: We actually grew to love Greg in a way of

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Speaker 7: and enthusiastic with the cockies. He became like a roadie.

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Speaker 7: And did you do the fair Star with us as

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Speaker 7: type of thing which made him a wiggle later, perfect

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Speaker 7: for the Wiggles. Later, there was a room full of

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Speaker 7: young gentlemen who really didn't have any moral constraints, and

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Speaker 5: Talking about members of your band or.

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Speaker 7: That wasn't the members of the van that was.

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Speaker 5: I remember these They were in the room next door

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Speaker 7: Doing things like filling up the bathtub and letting it

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Speaker 7: stuff cruise ship. And they were guys were quite scary,

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Speaker 7: and Greig Greek said, I don't know how it happened,

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Speaker 7: but they wanted to meet the cockies. And we went

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Speaker 7: into the room, I said, I Greg and sing and

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Speaker 7: he went without any self consciousness, without realizing these guys

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Speaker 7: probably serial killers. He's just in the best heavy voice

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Speaker 7: saying old time rock and roll.

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Speaker 5: Wow, can you hear it?

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Speaker 8: Because I just bought a Cassio keyboard on the cruise

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Speaker 8: because it was duty free.

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Speaker 5: I had the can in.

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Speaker 7: The first line.

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Speaker 5: Just see those whole records after shell and.

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Speaker 7: These guys they got into it. They were buddies for

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Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, yeah, Bill Fred and yeah.

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Speaker 7: They took the plug out of the bath and everything.

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Speaker 5: They were doing worse than that.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, yeah, so that's when I knew Greg is

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Speaker 7: a guy who music comes first. Doesn't matter who's in

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Speaker 7: everything he's got. It really struck me as Wow, this

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Speaker 7: guy's great. He just loves music and he's not afraid

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Speaker 7: to sing to anybody could sing as soon as I

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Speaker 7: heard Greg sing, you know, I love very Como and

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Speaker 7: these incredible ballads in the past, and Greek was the

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Speaker 7: first guy, probably the only guy I've ever met that

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Speaker 7: Beautiful voice and this is going to sound crazy. He's

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Speaker 7: also a fast bowler in cricket, and Johnny Field is

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Speaker 7: played for New South Wales under nineteenes and we all

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Speaker 7: commented that Greg sings like he both without effort and

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Speaker 7: you do it. You're a really good fast bowler. But

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Speaker 7: it's so easy when you with your actions so easy.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you. That's a lot of praise.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't say a fast bowler, maybe a medium maybe

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Speaker 5: But yes, I started out doing.

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Speaker 8: Work experience for the Cockroaches because I wanted to be

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Speaker 8: So what do I want to do? I wanted to

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Speaker 8: be a sound engineer, so I rang up Mental Management

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Speaker 8: And so I did two nights with sid Pitlick at

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Speaker 7: Because I loved it.

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Speaker 8: I just loved being involved in the music industry and.

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Speaker 5: Not at that point it was working experience.

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Speaker 8: But then, you know, so I'd run into the guys

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Speaker 8: of year twelve, when I finished year twelve, I got

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Speaker 8: a call from Danny Herin, who was the tour manager

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Speaker 8: at the time, and said, Greg, there's a job going

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Speaker 8: as stage manager with the started I think that was

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Speaker 5: Do you want a job?

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Speaker 8: And I said, yes, fantastic, So so you did start

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Speaker 8: paying me, which was am.

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Speaker 7: Was the first start as fun for you as it

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Speaker 7: was for us, because I.

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Speaker 4: Thought it's the fun ship.

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Speaker 8: It really was, except for the night where I had

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Speaker 8: to pull a guy off stage and had him thrown

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Speaker 8: in the brig and I thought, if I ever see

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Speaker 8: this guy a cruise, he's probably going to deck me.

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Speaker 5: It nearly came to fifty cuffs.

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Speaker 7: And then you went down to the jail and saying.

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Speaker 5: Record unchained melody, isn't it in prison?

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Speaker 7: There?

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Speaker 5: In prison? Wow?

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Speaker 2: Well then from there you both ended an early childhood

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Speaker 2: yes at university with.

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Speaker 8: His sage advice because he said, Greg, you can't be

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Speaker 8: a roady all your life, he said, you know, and

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Speaker 8: I didn't understand. I was young and enthusiastic, and I thought.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can. I love this.

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Speaker 8: He said, Greg, you don't want to be carrying boxes

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Speaker 8: up and downstairs at the age of fifty And yeah,

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Speaker 8: And yeah, my parents described me as that too, a

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Speaker 7: Greg was a brilliant songwriter and is a breaden songwriter.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, bring joy to people?

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Speaker 5: But Anthony's original idea was not for.

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Speaker 8: that he wanted it to back then, and that's why

445
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 8: I look at what's going on now with it's more

446
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 8: like and I think, man, he finally got his vision,

447
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 8: you know.

448
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I'm really happy for you. And that wasn't

449
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 7: easy to bring that vision finally in, but you know, it.

450
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 8: Was a massive change. Like you guys have gone through

451
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 8: so many changes over the years. And I think that

452
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 8: and people will say to me, what is it about

453
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 8: the Wiggles that has kept them going? It's two things

454
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 8: in my mind that's made its longevity what it is.

455
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 8: It's the adherence to the founding principles of early childhood

456
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 8: throughout my edittainment. But it's this guy here. It's his vision,

457
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 8: it's his dare I say.

458
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 7: Eccentricity way he's pointing to.

459
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 8: His creativity, spontaneity, it's all of those things.

460
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 7: But I knowing myself, it can. I'm sure it's driven

461
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 7: all three of you crazy at times.

462
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 5: I'm not crazy.

463
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 8: It's driven us to be better, to be better, and

464
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 8: to embrace that.

465
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 7: But I do sometimes think I do have to take

466
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 7: myself away sometimes ago, Oh, they don't think like I do.

467
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 7: I've got to accept that. You know, I get so

468
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 7: much support from everyone, but sometimes like I do, go okay,

469
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,719
Speaker 7: just pull back. The only way this ever works is

470
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 7: everyone having for me put It's not going.

471
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm not to do it this way, and I'm

472
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 5: not saying that.

473
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 8: And I think as I've gotten older too, I've recognized

474
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 8: that as well, that you have to understand that everybody

475
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 8: brings something different to the mix and it's all valuable.

476
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 8: And I think that's what worked so well with the

477
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 8: original lineup of the Wiggles. We had Professor Higgins, Murray,

478
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 8: Professor Higgins, and.

479
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 7: We were talking about Professor Higgins because Murray is really

480
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 7: grammar and like he's absolutely genius Murray. But I came

481
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 7: from Sydney's West, grew up in Lattle Park and I

482
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 7: don't if you remember, but I used to say something

483
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 7: and I used to go he bought is jumper with

484
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 7: him and Murray would correct me all the time, or

485
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 7: New South Wales, which I still do. There's a lot

486
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 7: of things bring it up a bit, you know. But

487
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 7: you know I was going to ask you question Greg.

488
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 7: Now you know we're talking about differences. There's one song

489
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 7: you wrote, because I love every song you've written, but

490
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 7: this no song you wrote which did make it. And

491
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 7: that was one of the ones where I went ideologically,

492
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 7: I can't go along with this, but it's a great

493
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 7: song recorded and I'll have nothing to do with it.

494
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 7: The two words yes, tidy.

495
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 5: That was what that was.

496
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 8: That was Jeff and I were at the Jest place

497
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 8: one day and.

498
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 7: It was a tidy up song only because I'm a mess.

499
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 7: No no, no, I found it was very it was fresher.

500
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 5: No, you were right.

501
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 8: It is a very didactic song and very unwiggly. And

502
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 8: it came about because we've been doing shows with Jillianisto

503
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 8: right and she had a lot of those sort of

504
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 8: songs about the parent from the parents' point of view,

505
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 8: and Jeff and I thought, okay, well, if we can

506
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 8: write a song, let's write something like that. And it

507
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 8: was this song, but it became very didactic. It was

508
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 8: from the parents point of view, but it was yeah,

509
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 8: it was a child sort of saying, you know, my

510
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 8: friends are coming around, they're going to be here soon.

511
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 8: But Mum and dad have said to me, tidy up

512
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 8: your room. You've got a tidy tidy all day long.

513
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 8: You got a tidy tidy sing in this song. So

514
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 8: it was very didactic, but it was written from that

515
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 8: whole thing. Anyway, it was a disaster. But talking about

516
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 8: tidying up, and I've told my kids this story, I

517
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 8: hope you don't mind. Life Back in the days, you

518
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 8: had that little green Corolla with.

519
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 7: The wine and it had I put a snow cone

520
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 7: on the top of it, super glued and people would

521
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 7: point and go, there's a snow cone, and so I

522
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 7: accidentally placed it there.

523
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 8: But talking about being untidy, that car was quite untidy

524
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 8: at times, wasn't it.

525
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 7: You could call it.

526
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 8: And when Paul Paddock started with Paul.

527
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 7: Wanted to drive to Melbourne to see that then girlfriend

528
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 7: who was in West Side story.

529
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 8: That's right, and it's quite a very tonality.

530
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 5: He's very tidy.

531
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 7: Captain feather Sword is very very tidy. And in fact,

532
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 7: three guys next to me are tidy and.

533
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 5: You're talking to me. But Paddy wanted to make use

534
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 5: of Anthony's car, and.

535
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 8: Anthony said, look, well, if you're tidy it up, you

536
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 8: know you can have use of the car and.

537
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 5: You can keep the coins that are in there.

538
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 8: Back in the day when people had coins, Anthony's car

539
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 8: had coins, and I think it was if you tidy

540
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 8: up the car, you can keep the coins. And was

541
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 8: it two thousand dollars thousand dollars in coins just in

542
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 8: this untidy.

543
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 7: Car And that was before two dollars coins.

544
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 8: It was back in the days when we were we

545
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 8: were doing a lot of busking back there, it was, yeah,

546
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 8: and we and we kept the coins for toll money.

547
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 8: Back back in our days we had to pay tolls

548
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 8: with coins.

549
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I would all just get in the current, throw.

550
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 5: The coins in the car off the ground.

551
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: Tell you what, I love it up.

552
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 7: Literally.

553
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 6: I've never heard you say say that about the group

554
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 6: set up in the Wiggles, which I find fascinating. But

555
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 6: did you know was there a point where you with

556
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 6: all that, knowing all that now that you was there

557
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 6: a record or a moment that happened that you went

558
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 6: far out.

559
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: This is actually really special. We were aware of how special.

560
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 6: The four of you got on and made music together

561
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 6: and that's the sound and live.

562
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 7: It was funny, lucky because what Greg was describing was

563
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 7: I had this idea for the group and that was

564
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 7: the idea, but a rock management could not see that

565
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 7: it had to be the four guys. And I was

566
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 7: going on, but I don't want to do that. I've

567
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 7: just got out of it that I don't want to

568
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 7: do that. I wanted to be like placebol you know,

569
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 7: you come in, you do it. But then we' had

570
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 7: done that album and then the guys went on dide

571
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 7: I go on the TV with you guys time. It

572
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 7: was the first time went on TV midday shows something

573
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 7: like that. And then the next day it was like

574
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 7: I was still teaching and the guys got gigs and

575
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 7: I say I had to go, and they go. You know,

576
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 7: there was so many people at this show and it

577
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 7: was only word of mouth, and then I think it

578
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 7: was more we knew we'd done an album that was

579
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 7: early childhood centric. But I think it was the fact

580
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 7: that people were cottoning on onto it, lucky that we

581
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 7: spent Okay, maybe this is right, Well, it was unique.

582
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 8: Thought it was unique at the time because there was

583
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 8: there was a lot of people who were doing music

584
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 8: for children who were solos, like there was Peter komb

585
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 8: Don Spencer, Patsy Bisco to name a few.

586
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 5: This was different.

587
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 8: This was a group and we kind of had songs

588
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 8: like get Ready to Wiggle and Dorothy the Dinosaur on

589
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 8: the first album that were kind of pop based.

590
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 5: They weren't the nursery rhyme sort of song.

591
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 8: So I think it was a little bit different at

592
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 8: the time and parents could kind of enjoy it.

593
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 7: But what made us different also made us questionable. And

594
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 7: in our early days, I remember in Double Bay one

595
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 7: time some guy was yelling out, you know, like the

596
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 7: sort of Peter Phile thing to us four guys, it

597
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 7: was a little bit you know, we were you know.

598
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 8: Well we knew about that sort of stuff teaching background.

599
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it was just but I think that that

600
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 7: it was really good for four men to be actually

601
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 7: above reproach and.

602
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 5: Modeling what role men can have in his child life,

603
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 5: you know.

604
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 8: And I think a lot of our university lecturers, whilst

605
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 8: they were disappointed, we didn't actually end up in a

606
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 8: classroom where we were kind of needed in that role.

607
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 5: We became that to a wider group children.

608
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 7: It was different time where we would have children laugh

609
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 7: at us because we were dancing.

610
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 5: Most people.

611
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 7: The title dancing is stretching it a bit, and children

612
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 7: we were dancing and they would laugh and say we'd

613
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 7: heard boys don't dance. So you know, there was a

614
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 7: lot of good things about us.

615
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 8: Not our dancing, but our attempts to do it were

616
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 8: coming from the right place.

617
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: From that, from your dancing, the wheels went onto a

618
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: huge success, like globally and then Greg in two thousand

619
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: and you became unwell and had to leave. I think

620
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: I heard it was described as yellow wiggle syndrome. The

621
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: doctors were actually saying, but some people do that. Yeah,

622
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: I've heard people say that. The doctor said it's yellow

623
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: wiggle syndrome. So what it was it was a thing

624
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: called orthostatic intolerance, which is a thing with the autonomic

625
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: nervous system. So we have this nervous system.

626
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 8: That regulates our heart beat, our blood pressure, breathing, all

627
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 8: these things we don't even think about.

628
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 5: That's why it's autonomic.

629
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 8: And at the time I was going through some pretty

630
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 8: horrible personal things that I had to deal with doing

631
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 8: a lot of touring. Was losing a lot of fluid

632
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 8: on stage. You know, wiggle shows are quite sweaty, we

633
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 8: do skives.

634
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 5: Yep, and well I was.

635
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 8: I was wearing a T shirts because I do sweat

636
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 8: so much, and I was getting dehydrated, which wasn't helping

637
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 8: this condition. So yeah, at the end of six it

638
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 8: was like I'd collapsed a couple of times on tour,

639
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 8: come back home to try and work out what on

640
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 8: earth was going on, and wasn't getting answers, And it

641
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 8: was like it was quite scary at the time because

642
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 8: you're going to see a cardiologists, you're going to see neurologists,

643
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 8: and they can't give you answers, and so I was like, man,

644
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 8: what the hell is going on here? And yeah, so

645
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 8: at the end of O six I stepped back and said, look,

646
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 8: you guys, I can't commit to the contracts that you

647
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 8: need me to sign to say that I'm going to

648
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 8: be there next year. I don't know what's going on.

649
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 8: So that's when I left the group in six and

650
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 8: I mean, I still have orthostatic intolerance. It's just that

651
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 8: it's managed much better now because I know what it is.

652
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 8: And it's basically, if you stand up for too long,

653
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 8: the blood will pool in your legs. Gravity pulls the

654
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 8: blood down and keeps it in your legs, and the

655
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 8: muscles or the things in my legs that are supposed

656
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 8: to squeeze the blood back up, they don't and the

657
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 8: blood just stays.

658
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: Was it a condition you always had but it became looking.

659
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 7: Back, yeah?

660
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, And it's like a lot of people.

661
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 8: If you are down on the ground doing work and

662
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 8: then you stand up too quickly, it's that feeling of

663
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 8: oh gosh, but that's what happens, and.

664
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 5: So yeah, no, it's fine now.

665
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: It must have been incredibly I mean, if you're unwell,

666
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: I guess you can get your head around why you're

667
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: leaving something. But it must have been difficult to walk away.

668
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 8: Absolutely, it was very hard because that's all I'd ever known.

669
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 8: From the age of nineteen, I was a wiggle.

670
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 7: How old were you when you when you left, Greg

671
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 7: thirty four?

672
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 8: I think it's like fifteen, sixteen, years of being a

673
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 8: wiggle and that's all I've known. And you know, it

674
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 8: was a tough time for many reasons, and then wondering,

675
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 8: well what am I going to do now?

676
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: I was just so young?

677
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 8: Well yeah I felt old at thirty four, but yeah,

678
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 8: but yeah, you're right young at that point in time.

679
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 8: But yeah, look, life throws challenges at you and you

680
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 8: have to go with them because there's no other option.

681
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 7: Right.

682
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 4: What was it like Anthony with the group when Greg

683
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 4: had to leave?

684
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 7: Well, even before Greek had to leave, there are a

685
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 7: few occasions Greg the old days when the Gregory's ironically

686
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 7: the Gregory's address book was used before GPS and.

687
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 5: The street directory, the street directory.

688
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 7: And I don't know if you didn't turn up to

689
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 7: that gig up in it was like Blue Mountains or

690
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 7: Penrith and you didn't make it and I had to

691
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 7: see him get ready to wheel? Oh no, what happened there?

692
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 5: You're talking about another one.

693
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 8: The very first time this was you guys were in

694
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 8: Sheperd and I think playing on fruit Box great stage.

695
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 5: That was back in ninety something. Yeah, get ready to Wiggle?

696
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, how did it go that? It was terrible?

697
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 5: I had no idea that didn't know the lyrics. Get

698
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 5: ready to wiggle.

699
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 7: But this is so. I'd had the nightmare without Greg

700
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 7: a couple of times. And there was another time we

701
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 7: were playing in Adelaide at a shopping center. There were

702
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 7: five thousand people there and in those days without GBS,

703
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 7: she just didn't know anything could happen. And Greg Murray

704
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 7: didn't turn up. So it's just me and Patty Captain

705
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,239
Speaker 7: Feathers saw and we had to do a show for

706
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 7: half an hour, still a good show. Stretching is not

707
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 7: the word, and we were sweating. But fast forward to

708
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 7: when started having these, We'd be doing a meat and

709
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 7: greet and Greek didn't know when it's going to happen,

710
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 7: so he'd be standing and then all of sudden you

711
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 7: fall over in front of children.

712
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 8: You know.

713
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 7: So it was actually terrible. It was a real hard time.

714
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 7: Greek's talent, that voice, you just can't replace that, you know,

715
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 7: So it was very hard.

716
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: It was.

717
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 7: It was hard for all of us. We've been together

718
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 7: all that time, and good thing about it, the four

719
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 7: of us we always laughed at it. We shared everything

720
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 7: with each other and laughed at each other and laughed

721
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 7: at ourselves. Without me, your own great.

722
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, So I think that was one thing we

723
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 8: always did, and it kept this fairly grounded as well, Like,

724
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 8: no matter what was going on and the success that

725
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 8: we'd had and how it might have been being reported

726
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 8: in the media, you could always be assured that you're

727
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 8: getting the tarago with the boys, and somebody's going to

728
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 8: bring you down.

729
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 7: Someone did something in anger, well, it'd be used later

730
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 7: in you Ma.

731
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 5: We've got lots of ammunition.

732
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 7: At the time when I was playing drums, durious out

733
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 7: check and honestly, I didn't realize I had an analogy

734
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 7: tomatoes and chocolate, which made my brain go a bit funny.

735
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 7: You know, I'm on medication now, but at the time

736
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 7: I didn't.

737
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 5: We didn't realize.

738
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 7: Soone's playing the drums and comes from you know, I

739
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 7: had the curtain. I was just falling up on the

740
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 7: drums and he comes and goes and my right said, mate,

741
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 7: you can hear the drums out the front. And did

742
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 7: I say, do you want to see a drum roll?

743
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 7: You may it's some sort of crazy manic anger. I

744
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 7: just threw the drum. Kid. Then this show started. Here

745
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 7: comes before carols can Like one time, this was the

746
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 7: best one ever controversy. I still think it's poor Field.

747
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 7: I'm sure of it because he drinks someone's filt water

748
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 7: on Greg Skivvy just about to go on stage.

749
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 8: We're about to go on National TV, Live TV and

750
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 8: go to put my shirt on. It's this big water

751
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 8: stain on it.

752
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 7: And there was a cup of water spilt before the

753
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 7: before the cotton one, you see it. So yeah, it

754
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 7: was like, who's spilt water?

755
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 8: And look, having room with Anto in the early days

756
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 8: of the Wiggles and knowing what the bathroom looks like

757
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 8: after his shower, we didn't really get on well together

758
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 8: in terms of room.

759
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 7: Yeah. And also when I wake you up the ball,

760
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 7: oh my god, fallowing century.

761
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 8: I'm not a middle of the night person. And so

762
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 8: when we were in Lismore, I'm pretty sure it was

763
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 8: I'm asleep and Antis He's got the TV and I'm

764
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 8: trying to sleep and.

765
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 5: Then Paigy, Paigey, look at this.

766
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 8: I wake up in time to see the replay of it.

767
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 8: It was the Ball of the Century. It was a

768
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 8: great delivery. He made it memorable for me again.

769
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, forget, it's the thing.

770
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 7: What are we talking about?

771
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 5: I don't know.

772
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 7: I think Camel's by Candilights, Oh the Skivvy. Yeah, anyway, it.

773
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 8: Was We don't know if Ando says it wasn't him,

774
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 8: he says it was his brother.

775
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 7: But it was a big argument.

776
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 5: I was going literally we were a side of stage.

777
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 7: Yeah right, and then we were at each other. It

778
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 7: was Christmas memory definitely was a Christian.

779
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: We were really lucky Locky and I and we started

780
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: to get to work with you, Greg and you know,

781
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: the original group. But then we also have witnessed you

782
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: guys together on the reunion shows, the which is were

783
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: massive and huge and there's so much love for you

784
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: all with this nostalgia that has happened now with children

785
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: who grew up with you. It was a wonderful thing

786
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: to experience. But then, you know, we have discussed before

787
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty the reunion show was thing was for

788
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: the Bushfires. It when Greg, you collapsed with a cardiac arrest. Yeah,

789
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: that was obviously incredibly traumatic for yourself and for everyone,

790
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: But I'd be interested to hear Anthony.

791
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, look from your perspective, was tearing up right

792
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 7: now because oh man, just to see you know, young Greg, Well,

793
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 7: it was just traumatic. It was traumatic. I wasn't expecting

794
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 7: that and it was such a good night. And then

795
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 7: I thought, Okay, it's all the static intolerance, and there

796
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 7: is you know, this guy who'd known since he was

797
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 7: a little school kid, and there is basically passing away

798
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 7: in front of us, and it's a bad man. And

799
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 7: I didn't handle it too well, but I'm Greg, I'm

800
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 7: not really handing it too well.

801
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 6: It shows how it shows how close you were in

802
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 6: the magic you made together for so many years. And

803
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 6: thank goodness that we talked about in Greg's episode, you

804
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 6: did pull through and you've been Yeah, you're.

805
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: Here and you're still here. And I love hearing these stories.

806
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 6: Simon and I couldn't have we could have sat and

807
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 6: listened today that that's the magic you you guys share

808
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 6: together and manto to hear how much, how many memories

809
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 6: you've had.

810
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 3: Together is really special.

811
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 6: And you've given so many people so much and you

812
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 6: still do.

813
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 7: I think lucky that was that was it just just seeing.

814
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: That disappear like all that absolutely.

815
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 7: Incredible guy had given so much to the world, and

816
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 7: the actual story a feel that was unsaid from that

817
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 7: night was happened to be a firefighter friend of mine

818
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 7: and Jack Balwin who was retiring that day or that night.

819
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 7: He came by it because it was the bushfires, and

820
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 7: he gave his helmet to me to give to Antonio

821
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 7: was a little kid at the time. Now, this guy

822
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 7: was such a great fella. He came and such a

823
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 7: fiery he came. As soon as he saw what was happening.

824
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 7: He came up up on the stage and he basically

825
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 7: ran the show. And you said, right, get the find

826
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 7: the what's it called, February? Gets someone get the defebrutor.

827
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 7: He was the guy that said it. Then a nurse

828
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 7: or a doctor came up. He was the one that

829
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 7: start the CPI. He was running the show, and as

830
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 7: soon as he knew that it was in control, he left.

831
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 7: Didn't say a word. And Jack, if you're out there,

832
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 7: I don't know if Jack's been Have you spoken to Jack?

833
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 7: What a guy he got, because you're right, he was

834
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 7: the architect of life save because straight away ad where

835
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 7: is it? And he could have done it, but he

836
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 7: was actually he's saying he said to Steve Pace, start

837
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 7: the compression. Then of course classic firefighter didn't stay for thanks.

838
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 7: Just when it was okay, yeah, no, very traumatic, and

839
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 7: then I went to This is a kind of a

840
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 7: funny moment. I went to see gregor hospital the next

841
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 7: day and your wonderful wife's there and I have a

842
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 7: panic attack and it's supposed to be about greed. He's

843
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 7: like life support. I'm on the ground writhing around and

844
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 7: your poor wife, who do I look after me?

845
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

846
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 8: Look, it's funny. I don't remember a lot about the

847
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 8: time in hospital because I was still recovering, but I

848
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 8: do remember that you came in and I remember you

849
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 8: not being in a good way.

850
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 5: You were against the wall and I said, Anti, do

851
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 5: you want to bet.

852
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 7: Yeh.

853
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 5: Look, mate, it's it's very tough.

854
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 8: And I think you know from my perspective, that's the

855
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 8: thing that I feel kind of guilty about the fact

856
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 8: that people have gone through this trauma of witnessing what happened, and.

857
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 7: You know what a learning experience it was for me,

858
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 7: And how you have turned your life into educating people

859
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 7: like myself and everybody here into you how you can

860
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 7: save a life. Mate, you will say for a reason,

861
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 7: and you've turned that around and you've done so much. Greg.

862
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 7: When I see you, know the few times I'm on

863
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 7: TikTok because I'm badly ever, but I see you out

864
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 7: there doing stuff, I think, Wow, what a great purpose

865
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 7: you have. Now. That wouldn't have been so traumatic if

866
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 7: I knew what the hell was going on, I suppose

867
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 7: if I could have helped.

868
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, And that's the thing for a lot of people.

869
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 8: It's that feeling of disempowerment. Yeah, it's not knowing what's

870
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 8: going on. But look, yeah, I mean that that was

871
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 8: a terrible night, but a great outcome, thank goodness.

872
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 7: You know what also was beautiful, but also was seeing

873
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 7: your mum and dad there and the love they had

874
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 7: for you, and you know that.

875
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 8: Just that was the other thing for me too, finding

876
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 8: out that mum and dad you know, had made their

877
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 8: way up on and they were watching their son be resas. Yeah.

878
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, terrible And that was not last time me either.

879
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 7: I was like those poor parents, you know. And of

880
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 7: course there's people listening now that have gone through that,

881
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 7: people to current reason any thing. Well recently, not that

882
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 7: long ago, we lost our great mate Greedy Smith to

883
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 7: a heart attack, and you know Jeff had heart surgery

884
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 7: and murray as well, you know, so you know how

885
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 7: you feel too.

886
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 6: That I've never heard I think those original gigs when

887
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 6: you got better and came back in twenty twenty two.

888
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 6: We did in the arenas, but the way the setup

889
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 6: was on purpose was you know, I think you came

890
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 6: out last. Yeah, but the cheer I probably will never

891
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 6: hear something that loud in a stadium. When and to

892
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 6: introduced Greg and everyone just cheered for you. I was like,

893
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 6: oh my god, this is great. Last, this is amazing.

894
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: How did that feel, Greg, Because that twenty twenty was

895
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: obviously that dramatic event, and then the idea came around

896
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: to do big arena you too.

897
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 4: All of the ogs.

898
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 8: There were a few comments from my cardiac nurse wife

899
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 8: about taking it easy on stage, and look, of course

900
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 8: I was a little bit worried. I mean, I remember

901
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 8: part of the rehab is you've got to walk and

902
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 8: exercise on that very first I remember walking one hundred

903
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 8: meters was so hard. Gradually I'd do more and more

904
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 8: and more, and to work up to doing a Wiggles

905
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 8: show again was quite a challenge.

906
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 7: But it was I love.

907
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 8: I love the challenge of doing a Wiggle show. Albeit

908
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 8: the only thing I did get read of a Wiggle

909
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 8: which was the song that nearly killed me.

910
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: I was petrified, man, That's what I was petrified.

911
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 7: I was. I was petrified that it could happen again.

912
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 7: But Greg assuredness he was just going to take it

913
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 7: easy and he knew what to do. And then recently

914
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 7: full circle so I couldn't do the show or evy,

915
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 7: so we didn't have a yellow Wiggle and we played

916
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 7: act and Newcastle too, and Greg jobs on stage as

917
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 7: a wigg Want how was that for you, guys?

918
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 6: I just every time I hear Greg singing, it's just

919
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 6: like it's perfect wiggle wiggle singing.

920
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 3: It's personally wiggle music.

921
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 7: Yes it is.

922
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 5: It's effortless and.

923
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 6: It's so smooth and you just get you can just yeah,

924
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 6: it just takes you away again.

925
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: Such a dream.

926
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 7: It came out then too. This is for the young children.

927
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 7: But the parents, yes, we grew up with Greg.

928
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 8: A bit of a surprise for them. They were kind

929
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 8: of like, oh.

930
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 7: Lucky.

931
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 8: A lot of people say that our voices sound the same.

932
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 8: They do sound similar, because sometimes I'll hear versions of

933
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 8: a wiggle song and go is that me? Or is

934
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 8: that lucky? I really have to listen. But mate, you're

935
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 8: much better singer than I am. Your pitch is so

936
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 8: so good.

937
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: Thank you Gregy and that's very lovely.

938
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 7: But Greg, God beg the differ. I think you're all

939
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 7: your three of you are incredible singers and you but

940
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 7: you're right in a certain register like you can sound

941
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 7: like you, but you and you've never had a probably

942
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 7: get pitch.

943
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 8: Every I think you don't listen closely enough to some

944
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 8: of those recordings, mate, days of.

945
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 7: The days before, Well, yeah, they pitch you. Oh yeah.

946
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 8: And I got to say too, I think I'm a

947
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 8: better live singer than in the studio because by the

948
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 8: time we got on stage and do the songs like

949
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 8: in the studio, I didn't know the songs. It was

950
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 8: kind of learning them as we were recording the record

951
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 8: them so quickly, so I was kind of making melodies

952
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 8: up as we went, and I wasn't really hitting the notes.

953
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 8: And I actually don't like listening back to a lot

954
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 8: of the recordings. But if I listened to live recordings

955
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 8: quite often, I'm okay to listen to that because even

956
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 8: though it's harder to sing live, I actually knew what

957
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 8: I was singing.

958
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 5: It sounds it sounds a little bit.

959
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: Better, and you do know what you're singing at the

960
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 2: moment because you're in a musical, any of the musical. Yes,

961
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: I am, and we have seen it and you're fantastic.

962
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: Show fantastic. It is a great phastic and your pitch

963
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 2: is great coming from you, I appreciate it, but it is.

964
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: A great show. How has that been for you?

965
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: Having you know it's a very musical is a very

966
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: different world you have known musically your whole life.

967
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 4: How has that been?

968
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 7: Well?

969
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 8: I was terrified leading up to it because of that

970
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 8: very reason. I knew it was going to be different.

971
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 8: And I'd known you for a long time and I

972
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 8: was singing about that last night. How long have I

973
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 8: known you? It's got to be twenty years at least,

974
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 8: because you came from the musical world, and I'd heard

975
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 8: a lot about it from you from Leanne Halleran, who

976
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 8: was our choreographer.

977
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 5: I was absolutely terrified.

978
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 8: I was excited to take it on, but I just

979
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 8: know how good these people are, and they are amazing singers,

980
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 8: amazing actors, and coming from wiggle world, it was like, well,

981
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 8: am I really going to fit in here? And I

982
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 8: think there was some the concern about how much wiggle

983
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 8: I would bring to the role and how I was

984
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 8: going to temper.

985
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: That you are great in the show, and it's a

986
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: great thank you Adam Is you know, there's something beautiful

987
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: about those those musicals, with the way they're orchestrated, the

988
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 2: vocal arrangements.

989
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 4: Oh, it's actually beautiful.

990
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 8: I sit in my because I'm not on until a

991
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 8: second so I've got to get there with the rest

992
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 8: of the cast. I spend the first act in my

993
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 8: dressing room and the music's piped through.

994
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 7: I pump it up.

995
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 8: I love listening to it because of the orchestrations.

996
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 7: What's your favorite tune from it? Tomorrow?

997
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 8: Well, Tomorrow is iconic, but there's some other great songs

998
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 8: like NYC. You know, you might not know that one,

999
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 8: but ny C anything but you I don't know what

1000
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 8: the official titles of these things are, but they're amazing

1001
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 8: songs and orchestrations, and what I love about it. I

1002
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 8: was saying to my kids, because a couple of my

1003
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 8: kids are in the music, and I said, I was

1004
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 8: worried about singing Tomorrow because it's like two key changes

1005
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 8: in one song that you sing, and when you go

1006
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 8: along to these musicals, the modulations, the transpositions or key

1007
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 8: changes just blow you away. It's really great.

1008
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 7: So you have to do this stand in the same

1009
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 7: spot like it's really is it directed like that?

1010
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 8: You have to miss I have to know all my blocking.

1011
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 8: President Roosevelt was in a wheelchair because of polio. So

1012
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 8: I'm in a wheelchair, so I don't know anything where I've.

1013
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 5: Got to go somebody else to push me around. Why

1014
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 5: do you think I said yes to the gig?

1015
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 8: Honestly when I when they asked me, I thought, because

1016
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 8: this came about through your brother John. I don't know

1017
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 8: if you know that it doesn't come about through John.

1018
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 8: And he said, oh, there's a chance for you to

1019
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 8: be a national touring musical.

1020
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 7: And at first I thought, oh, yeah, sure.

1021
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 8: Anyway, when he told me what it was, I went, oh,

1022
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 8: my gosh, this is with Anthony Warlow and it's huge.

1023
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 8: And I thought, but hang on, am I going to

1024
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 8: have to do choreography because I've just been playing cricket.

1025
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 8: My knees were sore as anything. I thought, I don't

1026
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 8: want to be doing Cory. Then they said, well, you're

1027
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 8: playing President Roosevelt, who's in a wheelchair.

1028
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 7: I thought, my g it's great.

1029
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: I was fortunate many years ago to work with Anthony Warlow.

1030
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: He's an extraordinary performer, singer and such a wonderful, wonderful person.

1031
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: Has that been for you working with Anthony?

1032
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 7: Amazing?

1033
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 8: I have, and I'm really blessed for both, you know,

1034
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 8: in similar ways, you know, because like this Anthony, Anthony

1035
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 8: Warlow has taken me under his wing and really nurtured me.

1036
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 5: And you know, there's not that much difference in our age.

1037
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 8: Actually know about the same age difference, but I'm a

1038
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 8: lot older now and I guess I feel closer to

1039
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 8: his age than what I did to Anto back then.

1040
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 8: But his advice, his support, his talent is just incredible.

1041
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 8: And for me to witness that every night, night after night,

1042
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 8: it's just.

1043
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 7: What I've ever come to the Wiggles.

1044
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 8: Yes, well, I think so. And we certainly worked with

1045
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 8: him on like one of those carols in the domain.

1046
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 7: And Simon's Auntie Wallow connection is understudy Phantom, which.

1047
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 8: Was that two thousand and two thousand and seven to

1048
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 8: two thousand and nine.

1049
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah around there.

1050
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not as good with dates as you agree,

1051
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: but it's around it's around there.

1052
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 5: Anthony Warlow told me.

1053
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 7: That Simon was telling us Anthony Waller did the first

1054
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 7: opening night and then.

1055
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 4: He got sick Melbourne.

1056
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 7: Now what was that like when you realize you're going

1057
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 7: to go on for the first time.

1058
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, frightening.

1059
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: It's absolutely frightening understudying someone like Anthony Waller, because firstly,

1060
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: people are booking tickets a lot of time to see

1061
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 2: see he's exceptional outside of the show itself with Phantom.

1062
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 2: And then you then have to live up to some

1063
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: I mean maybe expectations a kind of low, but but

1064
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 2: there's disappointment. And so the announcements made at the beginning

1065
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: of the show, the role of the Fantom been played

1066
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: by Simon Price, and people go oho, you know, but

1067
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: there was one on that first week in Melbourne, so

1068
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: over the speakers in the dressing rooms, the announcement was

1069
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: made and someone yells out ripped off again.

1070
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: So they've come back that week in the hope to

1071
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 4: see Anthony.

1072
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: There was some a couple flew from America to see

1073
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: Anthony Waller, but thankfully he was on that next night.

1074
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 4: Wow, was okay? I understood it, I got it. Yeah,

1075
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 4: it was okay.

1076
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's funny too because I only thought about this

1077
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 8: last night. I mean, I know how good a singer

1078
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 8: Simon is, right, but when I heard Anthony singing a

1079
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 8: song last night, I thought, gosh, he's really getting up

1080
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 8: really quite high. I was surprised at Simon with his

1081
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 8: very rich voice.

1082
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 7: He does it all, yeah, does it all great.

1083
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 5: And that's a real talent and a real he really is.

1084
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a mutual.

1085
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 8: I just thought, honestly, and I think sometimes as performers,

1086
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 8: we get so swamped with the mundane of every day

1087
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 8: doing things and we probably don't often look around and go,

1088
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 8: you know, so much talent there, you know, and we

1089
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 8: take it for granted.

1090
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 5: And because we become friends.

1091
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 8: And we just kind of look at each other as

1092
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 8: mates more so than the gifts and talents that we had.

1093
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 4: That's very true.

1094
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I think this has been such a thrill

1095
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: for Lockie and I to chat with you both today,

1096
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: To have you both in the same room, with all

1097
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: the history you've had together and the influence you've both

1098
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: had on generations of children is quite extraordinary. Before we finishes,

1099
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: there's something just looking back any particular moments, looking back

1100
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: at all that you are probably maybe most proud of.

1101
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 7: We met so many children, as you look in Simon

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Speaker 7: have and you know at the children's hospital. This is

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Speaker 7: a funny moment, but it meant a lot to me.

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Speaker 7: It's a funny and a sad moment. This little boy

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Speaker 7: who hadn't laughed it was in so much pain for months.

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Speaker 7: His name was Cameron, and he wanted to see Greg

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00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 7: so badly, and Greg couldn't get into the hospital. Greg

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Speaker 7: rang me up and said can you go in? And

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Speaker 7: I went in and sung with the guitar. You know,

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Speaker 7: my terrible voice potato anyway, he started laughing, your voice

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Speaker 7: is not really good, and I see it on promise

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Speaker 7: greg or coming in. And Greg did come in and

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Speaker 7: fall a boy with certainly. But it just that sort

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00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 7: of thing that we had a connection with people with

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Speaker 7: children have become adults later, and I feel that's that's

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Speaker 7: what I'm proud of, that we connect.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think that's the thing.

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Speaker 8: And in a funny kind of way, like I'm just

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Speaker 8: so proud that it's still going, Like what what was

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Speaker 8: created thirty four years ago, really at the heart of

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Speaker 8: it was born out of this gentleman here on my left,

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Speaker 8: and the fact that he's still here doing it. I

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Speaker 8: can't believe it. I mean I can't because I know

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Speaker 8: how much it means to you. But Thirty years is

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00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 8: a long time to do something and the impact that's

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Speaker 8: been had around the world and felt by so many people,

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Speaker 8: and yes, to see it now in thirty thirty something

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Speaker 8: year old who grew up watching The.

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Speaker 7: Break Can I ask you to be very proud of

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Speaker 7: Rocker Buy a Bear because that song is a lot

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00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 7: of children's first song they ever seen or they do

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Speaker 7: dance with their parents better than a tidy out song.

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Speaker 2: Well that is true now, you know, as a parent

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Speaker 2: with issues for you then get that real understanding of

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Speaker 2: the developmental milestones and rocking by your Bear sits right

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Speaker 2: in those milestones. When your child claps for the first

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Speaker 2: time three times does those actions. Understanding the connection between

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Speaker 2: word and physical action is such a big moment for

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Speaker 2: a parent, and that song does s all that up.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 8: I think there's a lot to be proud of, but

1142
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Speaker 8: a lot of great moments and memories along the way,

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Speaker 8: and I'm sure you guys have had plenty since I

1144
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Speaker 8: left you.

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Speaker 7: And I get proud of these guys all the time,

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Speaker 7: all the eight Whiggles we've got. Now I'm so proud

1147
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Speaker 7: of how much they care about the ogs and the

1148
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Speaker 7: legacy and how much they want to bring of themselves

1149
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Speaker 7: to what we do. You know, I'm loving it, but

1150
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Speaker 7: I'm loving it.

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Speaker 8: So I would say slay. One other comment just on that.

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Speaker 8: I think for people who are listening, they may not

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Speaker 8: actually understand how much hard work it is to be

1154
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 8: a wiggle Like. It's a lot of fun, but it

1155
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 8: is a lot of hard work too. I mean, you

1156
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 8: guys putting big days in the studio, filming, touring. It's

1157
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 8: a lot of passion and dedication that drives that. And

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Speaker 8: I think that if people could actually see what happens,

1159
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 8: their minds would be blown away. But there's a lot

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Speaker 8: of joy that comes out of that. But congratulations on

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00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 8: working so hard, because it isn't easy sometimes, but you know,

1162
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 8: it's a job that people love to do, and I'm

1163
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 8: glad you guys are still here doing It's like the president,

1164
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 8: that's right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But look, I mean we're here because of you two

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Speaker 2: and what you established all those years ago. And I know,

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00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 2: Luckie and I have ever grateful for that, and we've

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Speaker 2: loved having you on Wiggle Talk today.

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Speaker 4: Both of you said, thanks.

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Speaker 8: Guys, thank you for having us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: You know, Lucky, we are very.

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Speaker 2: Fortunate to do what we do here at the Wiggles,

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Speaker 2: and after you know, thirty odd years, thirty four years,

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00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: it is that we're still recording music, making content and

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Speaker 2: performing live. We've got a lot of tours coming up

1178
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Speaker 2: which is pretty exciting where through the UK, the US, Canada,

1179
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Speaker 2: all around Australia. So if anyone wants to come out

1180
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Speaker 2: and check out a Wiggles show, either to reminisce and

1181
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: relive your childhood memories or bring your children along, just

1182
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: go to the website Wiggles dot com and have a

1183
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Speaker 2: look and I'm sure there'll be a show that you'll

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Speaker 2: be able to come to.

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Speaker 6: I don't think I'll ever get sick of listening to

1186
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 6: Greg and Anthony speak and there's just so much history

1187
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Speaker 6: there and it's just so so lovely. So we hope

1188
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Speaker 6: that you enjoyed that episode and if you love the show,

1189
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Speaker 6: you can share it with someone else.

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Speaker 2: Bye, thanks for listening. That's a podcast for parents. It's

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Speaker 2: called wiggled Talk.