1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm very pleased to say that. Joining me in the 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: studio right now is Sue Shearer, the CEO of the 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Council of the Aging here in the Northern Territory. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, So. 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 3: Good morning kat you. Nice to see your smiling face again. 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Great to have you on the show for the first 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: time this year. Yeah, thank you, Chuck. Yeah, good to 8 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: see you now. So there's plenty happening around the place. 9 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: There always is, but I want to ask you first off, 10 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: more cost of living relief is being offered for senior 11 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Territorians the Seniors Recognition Scheme. Those cards are set to 12 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: be distributed in July. 13 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 3: That right, hopefully everybody has registered. You have to register 14 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: reregister every year. So the Department Churchie, Housing, Families and Community. 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: It's a mouthful, isn't I just say CHURCHI families know 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: that you are still on this earth and your dress 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: hasn't changed. Because I don't want to send the card 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: out that might get who know, misused, So you have 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: to make sure you've reregistered. That's for the Seniors Recognition 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: Scheme and the NT Concession, so they both go together 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: to be registered. So make sure of that otherwise you 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: won't get you five hundred dollars. 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: Now, what can that five hundred dollars be used for? 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: Soup? As we said a while ago, it's opened up 25 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: to almost everything except gambling, naughty products. You know, you 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: can't buy naughty products with us. And then there was 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: one other which escaped me at the moment, alcoholry. Of 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: course major one obviously alcohol. But while while it does 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 3: provide quite a bit of relief, it hasn't been index 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 3: to CPI. It came in into eighteen. The cards actually 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: came in two nineteen, so that's four years it stayed 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: the same. And as we know, the two major issues 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: for seniors are costs of living and crime. There's safety 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: while they're out doing the shopping, so they really have 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: to look at We did write to the previous Chief 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: Minister and will write again to this Chief. You've minister 37 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: saying it has to be at least indext to the CPI. 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: And so that point that you made there about cost 39 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: of living and safety being major concerns for senior territories. 40 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: You know, I reckon it's across the board for everybody, 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: but especially for our senior territories. You know, when you 42 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: look at the cost of living and then when this 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: is a great initiative, there is no other way to 44 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: put it. 45 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: It's great, it is great. 46 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: It has to keep up, it has to keep up 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: with the times. And obviously when you do your shopping 48 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: and for seniors on you know, on a set income, 49 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 3: the pension really hasn't kept up. And also obviously if 50 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 3: you're on job start as well, that has if you're 51 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: over sixty and you're you know, or sixty five and 52 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: there's a gap there till you get the pension. So 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 3: if you are on job start forty dollars a day, 54 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 3: it doesn't cut it. So it really does. It really 55 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: does help, but it needs to be more practical and 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: they really do need rather than spend three million dollars 57 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: or whatever on geoscience ground So I'm sorry, ok, or 58 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: moving the library, Let's look after people who can't look 59 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: after themselves properly. Let's get real about this. It's rather 60 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: rather disgusting that this hasn't been index to the CPI 61 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: and why move the library? Really, for the cost of 62 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: it to add another one hundred or one hundred and 63 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: fifty dollars to each in every card will probably be 64 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: about three million. How much will it cost to move 65 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: the library. 66 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: It's a bloody good question with all of us want 67 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: to know the answers exactly. 68 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: So really, you know, I don't often get angry, but 69 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: I'm really angry when I get seniors calling up and 70 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: I can't afford to feed themselves, and especially we have 71 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: the highest rents in Australia and they're in a private rental, 72 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: they're getting the pension. Their private rental is five hundred 73 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: a week. That's a thousand a fortnite. What do they 74 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: get in their pension a thousand a fortnite, So where's 75 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: the money to feed themselves? So really we have to 76 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: get serious about looking after the people our seniors. 77 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I agree with you. 78 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: I think our seniors are so wonderful in our community 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: for so many reasons. But we also want to keep 80 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: them here in the Northern Territory. And if you don't, 81 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: I think what you'll actually find is that you lose 82 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: families out of theory as well. 83 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: In Alice Springs as an example, I know ten of 84 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: my friend long term friends who have lived there fifty 85 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: years and they're leaving at the end of the year 86 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: because their children and their grandchildren are leaving and they're frightened. 87 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: It's not the town that it was. We know that, 88 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: but they just and with them goes the sale of 89 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: their house, their superannuation. So in economic terms as well, 90 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: Alice Spings is losing not only people who are volunteered 91 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: and contributed to the town's growth. And these people have 92 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: had businesses and some might keep these businesses, but guess 93 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: what all the profits will go down south or to 94 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: the Eastern States when they really Okay, that's the other 95 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: thing the government has to think of as well in 96 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 3: economic terms of people leaving, and it really makes me said, 97 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: I've known these people since I was in my early 98 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: twenties and I moved to Alice. So there's a whole 99 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: lot of different consequences for you know, for the safety 100 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: as well, but also with the cost of living. 101 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: So just on the cost of living for a moment. 102 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: So with the you know, with the card not being 103 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: indexed to CPI, what do you reckon it needs to 104 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: go up by. 105 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: I'd say minimum one hundred, one hundred and fifty. 106 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: So it should be at six hundred, six hundred and fifty. 107 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: Fifty at least and then index it. 108 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, all right, so you've spoken You've written to 109 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: the Chief Minister about it. 110 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: Your Chief Minister, and I've written to the Minister for Seniors, 111 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: and I will try again. My head's a little bit 112 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: bent from on the brick wall, you know, but we 113 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: will keep trying. 114 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: You so I know that you will keep trying. 115 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: And do you know what I reckon A lot of 116 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: people listening would be thinking to themselves, I would prefer 117 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: that money be invested into Northern Territory scene years and 118 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: helping our Northern Territory scene is and doing things like 119 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: moving the library. 120 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: Oh exactly, it's common sense really that the library there 121 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: is Okay, yep, it really. It's a very lovely library 122 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 3: in a very lovely setting. I mean, and it's not urgent. 123 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: I would say it's not urgent, yeah, but this is urgent. 124 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 3: Feeding our seniors and making them secure is urgent. 125 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: So on the safety side of things, you know, it 126 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: is something that you and I have spoken about on 127 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: numerous occasions. You touched on then seniors in Alice Springs 128 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: and the fact that we are seeing some of those 129 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: seniors in Alice Springs actually leaving town from your perspective 130 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: and from what seniors are telling you, you know, in 131 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: your role with Kota. How are they feeling in the 132 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: Northern Territory at the moment. 133 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: Scared and frightened and they're prisoners in their own homes. 134 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: They won't go shopping at Casarina, especially after what happened 135 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: last week. They won't go there. So you know, sometimes 136 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: Lad at night, when you're lying there, as you know, 137 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: you have thoughty kisses as I call them. And I thought, 138 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: what's the main thing, cost of living and safety? So 139 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: how can we co to help? So we formed an 140 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: alliance with Neighborhood Watch and Victims of Crime and we've 141 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: got these personal alarms. So the main ones was to 142 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: send them down to Alice Springs for vulnerable seniors. And 143 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: they make a hell of a noise. It's one little 144 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: practical thing that might make them feel safe in their 145 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: own home or when they're out shopping and we're all 146 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: going to order. We've got very lucky to be the 147 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: reciprocant of the PRBA. They raised money for charity, so 148 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: CODA got some of that money. Then the Australia Posts 149 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: they nominated us for some reason. They think we're terrific 150 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: for thousand dollars, so that'll go towards those alarms, and 151 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: we'll also apply for another grant through I think it's 152 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: Power and Water Community grant. So again the practicality of it, 153 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: so we'll send some more down to Alice Springs. We 154 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: felt they were in more need at the moment, so 155 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: we'll order probably five hundred six hundred, and victims of 156 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: crime as well will order some, and Parmesan and rural 157 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: seniors living seniors will have come on board and they'll 158 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: order some as well. So it's a bigger lions that 159 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: we're looking at, and we'll give them out to vulnerable seniors, 160 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: you know, especially ones living on their own as well. 161 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: So that's pretty extraordinary that our Northern Territory seniors have to. 162 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: Go to that level where you're. 163 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: Purchasing personal alarms for our seniors because they don't feel safe. 164 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: They don't feel safe and they can attach it to 165 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: their bag and when some I won't swear, some person, 166 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: nasty person wants to steal it or in their home. Then, 167 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 3: as I said, we tested it outside Coder and everybody 168 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: came running. But the main thing is to remember I 169 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: was going to and I thought, I know, we might 170 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: get the fire brigade or whoever coming down but again 171 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: you look for practical solutions and how how can we 172 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: help our seniors because it's just it's just tragic, really 173 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: what's happening out there. And as you know, as you said, 174 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 3: you hear it every day. So how and if fisk 175 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: is them some sort of security to leave their home, 176 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: which a lot aren't doing. Their prisoners in their own homes. 177 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 3: They've worked hard, they're in a twilight of their years, 178 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: so they should be out enjoying themselves. 179 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: Really, it actually makes me feel really sad they're seniors 180 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: that aren't leaving their homes because they don't feel safe. 181 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: I mean, is that happening often? 182 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: It's happening a lot. Because I've also been asked from 183 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 3: seniors and Alice Springs when they shop online, if they 184 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: have a Senior's discount card and I have going to 185 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: approach Wolworths and Coles, could they get a discount on 186 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 3: their delivery they're shopping online, you know that they're not 187 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 3: as I said, they're not leaving their houses and they 188 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 3: won't go Obviously, I've had numerous calls from seniors up 189 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: here they won't go to Casarina, but they can't afford 190 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: the fuel to go to Gateway or Curlinger, so you 191 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: know it's affecting everybody's lives. 192 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: Is there anything that we can do, you know, as 193 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: a community to try and help our seniors so that 194 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, like I know, we're going to get people 195 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: ringing go saying do you know what, Katie, I'd be 196 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: really happy to walk around the shopping center with somebody 197 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: if it would help them, well. 198 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: If they would like to, that would be wonderful. And 199 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: we've also offering our bus to pick up people, but 200 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: we haven't got one in Alice, so we can't pick 201 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: them up. But as an example, Katie of how safe 202 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: they might feel or could feel. For International Woman's Day, 203 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 3: we've got some funding and we're organizing a lunch out 204 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: to Ura Minna Homestead. Now we're sold out. We've got 205 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: eighty seniors wanting to come on that lunch, so we 206 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: had to get another bus, so we will fund that. 207 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: But I'm a actually I just remembered that the bus 208 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: is giving us another free bus, which is wonderful. So 209 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: that's how safe they will feel. They want to get 210 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: on the bus and go out to Uramino because it's 211 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 3: it's safe, and I wish we could offer more outings 212 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: like that. But you know, but we can't. And that's 213 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: why people said, O lovely colleagues and Alice, DeBie and 214 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 3: France sold out. So in three days, I said, well, 215 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: that's because they'll be safe and they'll be picked up, 216 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: there's a bus and they'll enjoy it. So that's that's 217 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: the thing. 218 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: So good on you guys that you're organizing. You know, 219 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: these these personal alarms. Now we have already had people 220 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: get in contact asking can you please remind us again 221 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: how they can get their hands on one. 222 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: Well, as I said, they. 223 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: Can get one from you, purchase at whatever they need 224 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: to do. 225 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: Well, we're actually hopefully giving most of them away, but 226 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: we've just put the order in so they'll be they'll 227 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: be coming coming in hopefully in the next month, but 228 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: I like it sooner, but we have to. We have 229 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: to do that, and they will be our expo is 230 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: in May, but hopefully obviously before then. But it just 231 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: depends on the supply. As you know. Sometimes excuse me, 232 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: it's harder to get them. But they will be first 233 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: of all for our members and after that for vulnerable 234 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: seniors who live alone. 235 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: Okay, that's in contact with you at Kodu. 236 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: They can get on our on our website and put 237 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: it ordered. We'd love to order, Like you know, there's 238 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 3: thirty thousand seniors on our database. We'd love to order 239 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: thirty thousand, you know. But obviously it's a needs basis 240 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: as well, and this is not out of our core funding. 241 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: This is the generosity of people like the Palmestan Regional 242 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 3: Business Association, Australia Post and hopefully Power and Water when 243 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: we put it, when we put that grant in for 244 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: their five thousand dollars which is for community benefit, I 245 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 3: think this will benefit the community more than a lot 246 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: of other things that would be happening. Really, if it 247 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: makes somebody a senior can get out of the house 248 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: and feel safe and secure, well then it's more than 249 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 3: worth it, isn't it, Katie? 250 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: It absolutely is so, Shira, Honestly, I feel really sad 251 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: hearing that our seniors are in that position. And I 252 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: know it's not absolutely everybody probably that feels that way. 253 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: What can be done here? 254 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: You know? Like I just feel like we've got so 255 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: many situations at the moment where people are being impacted 256 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: by crime and personal and not feeling safe. 257 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: Yep, that's right. Well, and as you know, they've worked 258 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: awfully hard, they've volunteered, they've worked really hard. And when 259 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: we've got the Australian Brewer of Statistics, we have the 260 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: fastest growing seniors over sixty five territory in a long church. 261 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 3: You know's where the government really the next one is 262 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: the Act, so we really do have to look at 263 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: things like how can we make them safe? Do we 264 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: have more retirement villages? I mean it was it was 265 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: an election commitment in twenty sixteen that the Labor government 266 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 3: if they got in they will build a retirement village 267 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: in Alice Springs and a retirement village in the rural. 268 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: So what year is it again, Katie refresh my. 269 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: Member twenty twenty three? 270 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: Well, so where is a team or where is it? 271 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: Well, sou Shier. 272 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: I always appreciate your time, but thank you very much 273 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: for coming in this morning and being really bluntly honest. 274 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: And I think that it is very much required. We've 275 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: passed the point of, you know, of tiptoeing around some 276 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: of these issues because we need to make sure that 277 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: our sceniors are safe. 278 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: Exactly we want to We purport to be the voice 279 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: of seniors and we want to represent them and that's 280 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: all their concerns. So watch that pink song. Don't want 281 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: to play nice anymore, you know. 282 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: So shier. Thank you, as always for your time, the 283 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: CEO of the Council of the Agent here in the 284 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: Northern terrat Thanks for coming on