1 00:00:04,071 --> 00:00:09,631 Speaker 1: Black cast Unite our voices. Black Magic Women Podcast acknowledges 2 00:00:09,791 --> 00:00:12,791 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land we have recorded this 3 00:00:12,871 --> 00:00:15,991 Speaker 1: episode on. We also acknowledge traditional owners of the land 4 00:00:16,031 --> 00:00:19,511 Speaker 1: where you, the listener or viewer, are tuning in from. 5 00:00:19,751 --> 00:00:21,871 Speaker 1: We would like to pay our respects to our elders 6 00:00:21,911 --> 00:00:25,511 Speaker 1: past and present and acknowledge that this always was Aboriginal 7 00:00:25,591 --> 00:00:28,231 Speaker 1: land and always will be Aboriginal land. 8 00:00:29,031 --> 00:00:31,351 Speaker 2: What we do with them over is more so you've 9 00:00:31,351 --> 00:00:33,031 Speaker 2: got to walk the walk to talk to talk. I 10 00:00:33,071 --> 00:00:35,351 Speaker 2: think later on their old once we're able to obviously 11 00:00:35,351 --> 00:00:38,631 Speaker 2: make it more sustainable, we will get more opportunity to 12 00:00:38,671 --> 00:00:41,831 Speaker 2: go home and be able to share experiences with our 13 00:00:41,911 --> 00:00:44,231 Speaker 2: children and obviously fill up their cups as well. I 14 00:00:44,231 --> 00:00:46,631 Speaker 2: want to inspire them and obviously help them become better 15 00:00:46,671 --> 00:00:50,151 Speaker 2: verdits of themselves as well. 16 00:00:50,151 --> 00:00:54,711 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Black Magic Woman Podcast with Mandanara Bail. 17 00:00:58,991 --> 00:01:02,071 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Black Magic Women Podcast. 18 00:01:02,191 --> 00:01:05,791 Speaker 1: I'm here on my beautiful mother's country. It's my mother's 19 00:01:05,831 --> 00:01:08,271 Speaker 1: mother's mother's mothers and we go back to at least 20 00:01:08,311 --> 00:01:13,871 Speaker 1: the eighteen twenties here on Gadiger Country. I'm joined by 21 00:01:14,631 --> 00:01:18,111 Speaker 1: a band that have just flown in here for the 22 00:01:18,191 --> 00:01:22,751 Speaker 1: South My Southwest Massive Conference here in Sydney. If you 23 00:01:22,831 --> 00:01:25,311 Speaker 1: haven't heard about it, you should get online for next 24 00:01:25,391 --> 00:01:29,271 Speaker 1: year and see all of the amazing especially black talent 25 00:01:29,711 --> 00:01:32,151 Speaker 1: that now gets to I guess kind of take up 26 00:01:32,191 --> 00:01:38,191 Speaker 1: space in spaces where it's normally or predominantly non Aboriginal people. 27 00:01:38,871 --> 00:01:42,711 Speaker 1: So today I'm going to have a little yarn. If 28 00:01:42,711 --> 00:01:45,471 Speaker 1: you haven't heard of these fellows before, hopefully after today 29 00:01:45,871 --> 00:01:49,111 Speaker 1: you download their music google them, but everything will be 30 00:01:49,271 --> 00:01:53,471 Speaker 1: in the show notes. So I'm going to literally asks now, 31 00:01:53,671 --> 00:01:56,591 Speaker 1: just one by one if you don't mind, you want 32 00:01:56,591 --> 00:01:59,431 Speaker 1: to introduce yourself to my listeners and also some of 33 00:01:59,471 --> 00:02:04,111 Speaker 1: our viewers on YouTube. What's your name? Where you fellow 34 00:02:04,151 --> 00:02:07,671 Speaker 1: us from? And then we'll get into how you got 35 00:02:07,711 --> 00:02:10,151 Speaker 1: an invitation to come down here to Sydney. 36 00:02:11,151 --> 00:02:16,271 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey guys, my name is Elijah James. I go 37 00:02:16,351 --> 00:02:19,791 Speaker 2: with the stage name of Uncle Peter. I'm a rapper 38 00:02:19,791 --> 00:02:24,511 Speaker 2: and one of the rappers also play a bit of 39 00:02:24,551 --> 00:02:28,951 Speaker 2: a producing role as well, co producing with DJ DJ Jobs. 40 00:02:29,151 --> 00:02:31,391 Speaker 1: Okay, multi talent today. 41 00:02:32,271 --> 00:02:34,631 Speaker 3: We'll stop everybody. My name is John Tae Laury Ro 42 00:02:34,871 --> 00:02:39,271 Speaker 3: named Jelud. I'm also a rapper part of dem Mob with. 43 00:02:39,391 --> 00:02:42,551 Speaker 1: Them lauris from caled Stone Mob. Yes, you come from 44 00:02:42,551 --> 00:02:45,751 Speaker 1: a very famous Abergeal family musicians. 45 00:02:46,271 --> 00:02:47,111 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. 46 00:02:47,391 --> 00:02:50,471 Speaker 1: Yeah, most most people recognize that last time straight away, 47 00:02:50,511 --> 00:02:55,831 Speaker 1: especially if they grow up Black Deadley. Hey, my name's 48 00:02:56,111 --> 00:02:57,351 Speaker 1: Bus Edwards. 49 00:02:58,231 --> 00:02:59,751 Speaker 3: I'm from Mamada. Yeah. 50 00:02:59,751 --> 00:03:02,831 Speaker 1: I do most of the singing in Demo. And how 51 00:03:02,831 --> 00:03:05,831 Speaker 1: did dem moob? Now that's the band name, right, how 52 00:03:05,831 --> 00:03:08,151 Speaker 1: did it come about? Whose idea was it to go, hey, 53 00:03:08,231 --> 00:03:11,151 Speaker 1: let's get into a band, And how did you even 54 00:03:11,151 --> 00:03:13,431 Speaker 1: come up with the name? Ah? 55 00:03:13,631 --> 00:03:16,871 Speaker 3: Then mob back into us in the nineteen like my 56 00:03:16,991 --> 00:03:20,951 Speaker 3: teacher knowing that was my producer now and also Djo, 57 00:03:21,471 --> 00:03:25,071 Speaker 3: I've known Elasta since Wilch your days back in Adelaide. 58 00:03:25,791 --> 00:03:27,591 Speaker 3: And then yeah, we all had a big talk about it. 59 00:03:27,871 --> 00:03:30,271 Speaker 3: At that time, I was pretty much in an other school. 60 00:03:30,311 --> 00:03:34,071 Speaker 3: So yeah, just we just all came up with a 61 00:03:34,071 --> 00:03:36,551 Speaker 3: screen name called dem Mob. Like Matt came up with 62 00:03:36,591 --> 00:03:39,391 Speaker 3: it first and then was like dem Mob sounded like 63 00:03:39,431 --> 00:03:41,391 Speaker 3: a pretty good name. What about us? Moll was like, Nah, 64 00:03:41,431 --> 00:03:43,391 Speaker 3: come on, man, I have to put dem mob. And 65 00:03:43,431 --> 00:03:45,631 Speaker 3: then that's how the name just became its thing. 66 00:03:45,751 --> 00:03:45,911 Speaker 2: You know. 67 00:03:45,951 --> 00:03:50,271 Speaker 3: It's between schoolwork becoming this big thing. You know, like 68 00:03:51,111 --> 00:03:52,391 Speaker 3: it's pretty crazy. 69 00:03:52,471 --> 00:03:55,231 Speaker 1: How long we're talking about when when you kicked off 70 00:03:55,271 --> 00:03:58,271 Speaker 1: this band and said, you know what, we're actually gonna 71 00:03:58,831 --> 00:03:59,911 Speaker 1: get serious about this. 72 00:04:00,391 --> 00:04:02,911 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, just to touch badge a little bit 73 00:04:02,951 --> 00:04:08,311 Speaker 2: of John. They were saying earlier, there are organically formed 74 00:04:08,351 --> 00:04:11,111 Speaker 2: as a vehicle to get John through his senior schooling, 75 00:04:12,511 --> 00:04:16,711 Speaker 2: so his year eleven and twelve. It was a project 76 00:04:16,831 --> 00:04:20,191 Speaker 2: that was kind of designed to re engage disengaged students, 77 00:04:21,231 --> 00:04:24,831 Speaker 2: obviously using hip hop and elements of culture and language 78 00:04:25,351 --> 00:04:27,791 Speaker 2: and trying to bring hip hop into the classroom more 79 00:04:27,831 --> 00:04:33,271 Speaker 2: so as a form of teaching. And then it kind 80 00:04:33,271 --> 00:04:37,631 Speaker 2: of just naturally kind of built its own thing outside 81 00:04:37,631 --> 00:04:41,751 Speaker 2: of a school project thing. We started doing a couple 82 00:04:41,791 --> 00:04:44,791 Speaker 2: of shows in like a nearby town called Alice Springs, 83 00:04:44,911 --> 00:04:47,671 Speaker 2: was probably five hour drive from where we were based 84 00:04:47,671 --> 00:04:50,671 Speaker 2: at the time. We did like probably two shows a 85 00:04:50,671 --> 00:04:53,351 Speaker 2: month start of a term, end of the term, just 86 00:04:53,391 --> 00:04:55,831 Speaker 2: to kind of like get all the teachers around because 87 00:04:55,831 --> 00:05:00,431 Speaker 2: all the teachers obviously all around came from different states 88 00:05:00,471 --> 00:05:04,911 Speaker 2: and they're obviously living away from their family investing their 89 00:05:04,951 --> 00:05:08,751 Speaker 2: time into teaching our children in our schools. And then yeah, 90 00:05:08,751 --> 00:05:13,391 Speaker 2: if it eventually started picking up got offered to play festivals, 91 00:05:15,471 --> 00:05:18,711 Speaker 2: and at the time we were still in the Lands, 92 00:05:18,751 --> 00:05:23,111 Speaker 2: we were playing festivals but still using like the festival 93 00:05:23,111 --> 00:05:25,431 Speaker 2: shows as a way to tick boxes for Johnt their 94 00:05:25,471 --> 00:05:28,751 Speaker 2: senior schooling. So like we played Wormat and we kind 95 00:05:28,751 --> 00:05:33,551 Speaker 2: of used Wormat as an external assignment basically and being like, yeah, 96 00:05:33,911 --> 00:05:37,431 Speaker 2: he's played this, and like we've designed a module to 97 00:05:37,431 --> 00:05:40,751 Speaker 2: obviously replicate that stage into a paper to tick off 98 00:05:40,751 --> 00:05:43,031 Speaker 2: that box, which gets into the paper that he needs. 99 00:05:43,191 --> 00:05:44,871 Speaker 2: And that's how we kind of went about it. And 100 00:05:44,911 --> 00:05:47,951 Speaker 2: then obviously he ended up graduating and obviously Gully was 101 00:05:47,951 --> 00:05:50,311 Speaker 2: a big part of the school stuff. He was always 102 00:05:50,871 --> 00:05:53,871 Speaker 2: trying to find obviously new ways to try and help 103 00:05:54,031 --> 00:05:57,071 Speaker 2: our children at home and disengage students and we'll do 104 00:05:57,191 --> 00:06:00,551 Speaker 2: its plan and talk about these massive ideas and how 105 00:06:00,551 --> 00:06:04,511 Speaker 2: to obviously implement culture and language and music in classroom 106 00:06:04,591 --> 00:06:07,631 Speaker 2: obviously try and get better outcomes from our kids in school. 107 00:06:07,791 --> 00:06:12,271 Speaker 1: Yeah, to satisfy mainstream education curriculum and standards and all 108 00:06:12,271 --> 00:06:18,391 Speaker 1: of that. Basically, that's a pretty impressive school to actually 109 00:06:19,311 --> 00:06:22,831 Speaker 1: acknowledge the strength of Aboriginal culture, the strength of our 110 00:06:22,871 --> 00:06:25,911 Speaker 1: culture when Aboriginal people like us for a younger mob, 111 00:06:26,351 --> 00:06:31,511 Speaker 1: when we're actually encouraged and supported to actually practice our 112 00:06:31,551 --> 00:06:35,071 Speaker 1: culture but also tick the boxes in terms of the 113 00:06:35,231 --> 00:06:39,191 Speaker 1: education the assignments. I've never heard of many schools that 114 00:06:39,231 --> 00:06:43,511 Speaker 1: are being flexible, adaptive and supportive, especially in like you know, 115 00:06:43,671 --> 00:06:44,591 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. 116 00:06:45,031 --> 00:06:49,551 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty crazy, Like I'm proud of it became 117 00:06:49,591 --> 00:06:52,551 Speaker 3: a thing for us and also for me. So yeah, 118 00:06:52,591 --> 00:06:55,991 Speaker 3: big love and shut out to Elashaw and Matt and 119 00:06:56,031 --> 00:06:59,231 Speaker 3: also be too, you know, you know, demmobile grued and 120 00:06:59,751 --> 00:07:03,351 Speaker 3: these guys being flexible not in that curriculum. It was 121 00:07:04,031 --> 00:07:06,231 Speaker 3: pretty amazing and just. 122 00:07:07,471 --> 00:07:12,511 Speaker 1: That inspiration now to this next younger mob family, cousins, 123 00:07:12,991 --> 00:07:17,311 Speaker 1: brother sisters, to be able to. Like you said, sometimes 124 00:07:17,351 --> 00:07:20,431 Speaker 1: I feel a little bit kind of disheartened when they 125 00:07:20,751 --> 00:07:24,591 Speaker 1: label our label black kids as disengaged. What it is 126 00:07:24,591 --> 00:07:27,871 Speaker 1: is this, this curriculum and this system doesn't fit within 127 00:07:27,951 --> 00:07:31,311 Speaker 1: our culture and we need to make it work. Right, 128 00:07:31,391 --> 00:07:35,031 Speaker 1: So how do we make education and learning in white 129 00:07:35,031 --> 00:07:38,791 Speaker 1: mainstream schools? How do you make it fun, engaging and 130 00:07:38,871 --> 00:07:43,351 Speaker 1: exciting and stimulating that our kids can't wait to go 131 00:07:43,391 --> 00:07:45,671 Speaker 1: to school. I went to a black school. I went 132 00:07:45,711 --> 00:07:48,871 Speaker 1: to a Murray school all Abigal kids, twenty seven of 133 00:07:48,951 --> 00:07:52,191 Speaker 1: us and I'm on the board of that school now. 134 00:07:52,231 --> 00:07:55,631 Speaker 1: My grandmother's brother thirty years ago in Brisbane founded that school. 135 00:07:56,471 --> 00:07:58,951 Speaker 1: I went to thirteen other schools, dealt with a lot 136 00:07:58,991 --> 00:08:03,631 Speaker 1: of racism. My name Mandanara is rainbow in my language. 137 00:08:03,751 --> 00:08:07,351 Speaker 1: But that also kind of gave me up. So being 138 00:08:07,391 --> 00:08:11,591 Speaker 1: an Abiginal kid trying to kind of navigate white mainstream 139 00:08:11,671 --> 00:08:17,311 Speaker 1: school systems and dealing with racism, I felt disengaged as well, 140 00:08:17,511 --> 00:08:19,711 Speaker 1: trying to figure out like do I want to finish school? 141 00:08:19,751 --> 00:08:22,911 Speaker 1: Why do we get sent to the school, and also 142 00:08:23,071 --> 00:08:26,471 Speaker 1: starting to question like am I the problem? What's wrong 143 00:08:26,511 --> 00:08:29,711 Speaker 1: with me? I've got five kids, and one of my 144 00:08:29,831 --> 00:08:33,991 Speaker 1: kids he struggles with this education. Is it tutoring? Now? 145 00:08:35,591 --> 00:08:37,711 Speaker 1: You know, if you could just say anything to these 146 00:08:37,831 --> 00:08:41,431 Speaker 1: young mob that people have kind of given up on them, 147 00:08:41,511 --> 00:08:44,791 Speaker 1: or you know, they don't have this opportunity or the 148 00:08:44,871 --> 00:08:49,951 Speaker 1: support to go into a school classroom where people are going, oh, look, culture. 149 00:08:49,991 --> 00:08:54,271 Speaker 1: We know that fabritional people and kids are encouraged and 150 00:08:54,311 --> 00:08:56,951 Speaker 1: supported to practice their culture. We can implement this in 151 00:08:56,991 --> 00:08:59,351 Speaker 1: the curriculum. So a lot of our kids are not 152 00:08:59,391 --> 00:09:02,791 Speaker 1: going to get this opportunity round. But already they're kind 153 00:09:02,791 --> 00:09:08,431 Speaker 1: of you know, I wouldn't say that they've been or 154 00:09:08,511 --> 00:09:11,111 Speaker 1: just say like, yeah, people have given up on them 155 00:09:11,311 --> 00:09:14,311 Speaker 1: as a lot of our young people. And teachers play 156 00:09:14,551 --> 00:09:18,191 Speaker 1: very important role and our young people, you know, whether 157 00:09:18,191 --> 00:09:21,191 Speaker 1: they can build confidence in them to back themselves like 158 00:09:21,271 --> 00:09:24,631 Speaker 1: we're deadly people. But for a long time it's been 159 00:09:24,671 --> 00:09:29,191 Speaker 1: this negative kind of stigma amongst us as Abasinal people. 160 00:09:29,711 --> 00:09:31,871 Speaker 1: So I think this is a deadly yarn. Kicking it 161 00:09:31,911 --> 00:09:35,111 Speaker 1: off with how do we make first education and culture? 162 00:09:35,111 --> 00:09:37,071 Speaker 1: How do we bring it together, bringing the Aboriginal world 163 00:09:37,111 --> 00:09:41,751 Speaker 1: and white follow world together and make it work Otherwise 164 00:09:42,191 --> 00:09:44,111 Speaker 1: you know where would you be today? You know if 165 00:09:44,151 --> 00:09:49,231 Speaker 1: that program wasn't available, you probably wouldn't have these opportunities, right, 166 00:09:49,431 --> 00:09:53,071 Speaker 1: And this is all of our kids right across this country. 167 00:09:53,151 --> 00:09:55,831 Speaker 1: And I really can't wait for people to hear this. Yeah, 168 00:09:55,831 --> 00:09:59,271 Speaker 1: and already we only just got started. But music right, 169 00:09:59,471 --> 00:10:05,031 Speaker 1: education is important. Education. Without it, we're not going to 170 00:10:05,071 --> 00:10:06,551 Speaker 1: be able to get a job. We're not going to 171 00:10:06,551 --> 00:10:09,631 Speaker 1: be able to buy a car and pay our rent 172 00:10:09,711 --> 00:10:13,511 Speaker 1: and support our families. And you do the thing, buy shoes, 173 00:10:13,551 --> 00:10:23,031 Speaker 1: buy clothes, do all the nice things. Right, So education 174 00:10:23,151 --> 00:10:27,231 Speaker 1: is important getting a job, but music, music obviously has 175 00:10:27,311 --> 00:10:30,551 Speaker 1: been the main part now of the success of the 176 00:10:30,591 --> 00:10:33,551 Speaker 1: band coming together. How have you been able to then 177 00:10:33,711 --> 00:10:36,431 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, you've got a manager? Now 178 00:10:36,471 --> 00:10:39,431 Speaker 1: you've got because youse follows are still young. Who's been 179 00:10:39,591 --> 00:10:43,671 Speaker 1: behind you to give you then the knowledge and the 180 00:10:43,791 --> 00:10:47,311 Speaker 1: understanding of being in an industry like this music industry 181 00:10:47,351 --> 00:10:49,711 Speaker 1: now so that you fellows can do this for the 182 00:10:49,791 --> 00:10:50,991 Speaker 1: next ten twenty years. 183 00:10:52,071 --> 00:10:54,991 Speaker 2: I guess it just goes back to the men that 184 00:10:55,111 --> 00:10:59,031 Speaker 2: started everything. Gully has been a big part of our 185 00:10:59,071 --> 00:11:04,831 Speaker 2: development individually as young indigenous men. Has been that a 186 00:11:04,951 --> 00:11:08,071 Speaker 2: consistent obviously male role model to us as younger did 187 00:11:08,151 --> 00:11:12,511 Speaker 2: this man he's just he's always had her back since 188 00:11:12,511 --> 00:11:15,191 Speaker 2: it started. Like he manages us that he manages and 189 00:11:15,271 --> 00:11:19,551 Speaker 2: DJs we are looking for obviously more like support for 190 00:11:19,631 --> 00:11:22,231 Speaker 2: his behalf because he's doing so much. 191 00:11:22,311 --> 00:11:26,071 Speaker 1: Well here see that camera at the moment. Tell people 192 00:11:26,831 --> 00:11:29,711 Speaker 1: that are listening and watching this, what what is it 193 00:11:29,751 --> 00:11:32,911 Speaker 1: that she follows need to be able to keep living 194 00:11:32,951 --> 00:11:35,391 Speaker 1: out your dream and doing what she loves so that 195 00:11:35,471 --> 00:11:38,791 Speaker 1: this you could keep inspiring our more ab our young 196 00:11:38,831 --> 00:11:39,511 Speaker 1: mob as well. 197 00:11:40,951 --> 00:11:44,911 Speaker 2: I guess it's just obviously trying to gain more exposure 198 00:11:45,711 --> 00:11:48,831 Speaker 2: within what we do with Demo is more so we're 199 00:11:48,831 --> 00:11:51,871 Speaker 2: trying to obviously, you know, you've got to walk the 200 00:11:51,951 --> 00:11:54,471 Speaker 2: walk to talk to talk, and with kids at home, 201 00:11:55,031 --> 00:11:57,991 Speaker 2: they're always obviously watching us now on social media, and 202 00:11:58,031 --> 00:12:00,071 Speaker 2: when we go home, they've always got so much questions 203 00:12:00,431 --> 00:12:03,071 Speaker 2: and they're always excited for us to go back. But 204 00:12:03,191 --> 00:12:07,911 Speaker 2: because we haven't, we don't have much support obviously outside 205 00:12:07,951 --> 00:12:09,991 Speaker 2: in the industry at the moment. Like we obviously we're 206 00:12:09,991 --> 00:12:13,591 Speaker 2: still connecting and building our connections within networking and that stuff. 207 00:12:13,751 --> 00:12:15,711 Speaker 2: I think later on the road, once we're able to 208 00:12:15,791 --> 00:12:19,271 Speaker 2: obviously make it more sustainable, we will get more opportunity 209 00:12:19,351 --> 00:12:22,311 Speaker 2: to go home and be able to you know, share 210 00:12:22,391 --> 00:12:25,231 Speaker 2: experiences with that with our children and obviously fill up 211 00:12:25,231 --> 00:12:28,751 Speaker 2: their cups as well to inspire them and obviously help 212 00:12:28,831 --> 00:12:30,871 Speaker 2: them become better versits of themselves as well. 213 00:12:31,351 --> 00:12:34,831 Speaker 1: Yeah, and winning awards, right, I heard about this one 214 00:12:35,311 --> 00:12:38,951 Speaker 1: just for community. Just how much how much did it 215 00:12:39,031 --> 00:12:41,511 Speaker 1: mean to you? What was it like that feeling to 216 00:12:41,551 --> 00:12:47,671 Speaker 1: be acknowledged winning an award and kind of Yeah, just celebrating. 217 00:12:47,631 --> 00:12:50,071 Speaker 3: Winning the awards was pretty big for us. It was 218 00:12:50,071 --> 00:12:53,791 Speaker 3: our goal, you know last year, so we won like 219 00:12:53,831 --> 00:12:57,991 Speaker 3: five awards, just five look at a road like like 220 00:12:58,311 --> 00:13:00,951 Speaker 3: I was shocked, Like I thought like one could just 221 00:13:01,591 --> 00:13:05,111 Speaker 3: make us more excited because we worked so hard last year. 222 00:13:05,751 --> 00:13:08,311 Speaker 3: So with those awards we did, we gave to CHASM 223 00:13:08,951 --> 00:13:12,551 Speaker 3: that's the University of Adelaide, Yes, yeah, and then you 224 00:13:12,591 --> 00:13:16,551 Speaker 3: know I gave mine to my family. Elasha did the same, Yeah, 225 00:13:16,591 --> 00:13:20,031 Speaker 3: bet too, And we also gave one back to er 226 00:13:20,391 --> 00:13:24,311 Speaker 3: School that's where I grew up and learned. So yeah, 227 00:13:24,391 --> 00:13:28,231 Speaker 3: like for that, like awards, it's just it is a 228 00:13:28,231 --> 00:13:31,071 Speaker 3: big thing, and like that also shows us too that 229 00:13:31,071 --> 00:13:33,471 Speaker 3: way out we do all music, yeah, but we all. 230 00:13:33,591 --> 00:13:35,711 Speaker 1: People loving it. People love them, Which is it producing 231 00:13:35,711 --> 00:13:36,351 Speaker 1: what you're making? 232 00:13:36,711 --> 00:13:38,671 Speaker 3: Yeah, we went and we also love giving back to 233 00:13:38,671 --> 00:13:40,391 Speaker 3: the community too, So go back. 234 00:13:40,231 --> 00:13:43,151 Speaker 1: To shows and sometimes it'll be good to be you know, 235 00:13:43,271 --> 00:13:45,231 Speaker 1: like hey, look at we've got some money here. We're 236 00:13:45,231 --> 00:13:47,111 Speaker 1: going to get paid to do this. A lot of 237 00:13:47,111 --> 00:13:49,031 Speaker 1: it's for the love, right, We're doing it for a 238 00:13:49,031 --> 00:13:51,471 Speaker 1: lot of the time, for our family, for our communities, 239 00:13:52,151 --> 00:13:55,231 Speaker 1: culture and language. I know that you Fellas, it's number 240 00:13:55,271 --> 00:13:58,671 Speaker 1: one for you Fellas, right and your language. You want 241 00:13:58,671 --> 00:14:00,631 Speaker 1: to tell people some of the music that you're seeing 242 00:14:00,791 --> 00:14:04,751 Speaker 1: is in your language, somedditional language. I was here and 243 00:14:04,791 --> 00:14:05,551 Speaker 1: you're speaking. 244 00:14:05,271 --> 00:14:09,471 Speaker 2: Before, So yeah, we speak bidding thet a young good data. 245 00:14:10,791 --> 00:14:15,431 Speaker 2: It's kind of like more desert mobs Central Australia. I 246 00:14:15,431 --> 00:14:20,831 Speaker 2: guess like the we rap both in both languages just 247 00:14:20,871 --> 00:14:24,431 Speaker 2: to be able to obviously share messages and just to 248 00:14:24,431 --> 00:14:28,751 Speaker 2: create a bit of separation between messages within songs. And 249 00:14:28,991 --> 00:14:31,311 Speaker 2: I think it's a cool way. It's it's very creative 250 00:14:31,471 --> 00:14:34,511 Speaker 2: on obviously being able to touch base with two audiences 251 00:14:34,591 --> 00:14:37,391 Speaker 2: within one verse or within two sentences within the rap. 252 00:14:39,151 --> 00:14:42,751 Speaker 2: And I think that's I don't know for me, like, yeah, 253 00:14:42,751 --> 00:14:45,271 Speaker 2: I just love when the songs are coming up and 254 00:14:45,311 --> 00:14:47,711 Speaker 2: I know when it's gonna get to the switching from 255 00:14:47,791 --> 00:14:51,071 Speaker 2: language to language. It just gives you that opportunity to 256 00:14:51,071 --> 00:14:54,111 Speaker 2: really obviously be able to represent who you are as 257 00:14:54,151 --> 00:14:56,911 Speaker 2: an ideness person and really like speak your language but 258 00:14:57,031 --> 00:14:59,511 Speaker 2: rap it at the same time confidently. But then you're 259 00:14:59,591 --> 00:15:02,111 Speaker 2: obviously seamlessly switching flows. And I think that's the cool 260 00:15:02,671 --> 00:15:03,511 Speaker 2: respective ters. 261 00:15:03,871 --> 00:15:06,431 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's telling them younger mob too, dude, you know 262 00:15:06,471 --> 00:15:09,911 Speaker 1: how important it is to to learn their culture, to 263 00:15:09,991 --> 00:15:13,871 Speaker 1: learn their language. To sit with them old people. That's 264 00:15:13,911 --> 00:15:15,791 Speaker 1: a you know, a lot of us are privileged, a 265 00:15:15,831 --> 00:15:19,871 Speaker 1: lot of us to have that kind of exposure and culture. 266 00:15:19,911 --> 00:15:22,631 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of our mob that, unfortunately, for 267 00:15:22,671 --> 00:15:25,751 Speaker 1: whatever circumstances, haven't had the opportunity to learn our language 268 00:15:25,831 --> 00:15:29,071 Speaker 1: or find their people or their country. So people are 269 00:15:29,111 --> 00:15:32,751 Speaker 1: listening now, especially when you think about any of our mob, 270 00:15:32,991 --> 00:15:36,791 Speaker 1: especially wanting to be you fellas sitting on this couch now, 271 00:15:37,591 --> 00:15:40,071 Speaker 1: you know, what would you say to them? If there's 272 00:15:40,111 --> 00:15:42,431 Speaker 1: younger people now listening because they want to be part 273 00:15:42,431 --> 00:15:42,951 Speaker 1: of them mob? 274 00:15:43,351 --> 00:15:47,231 Speaker 3: Ah? You know, just keep pushing forward, you know, like 275 00:15:47,631 --> 00:15:49,911 Speaker 3: even though you're indigenous or not, you know, just keep 276 00:15:49,991 --> 00:15:53,231 Speaker 3: working harder than others, but don't trying to impress others. 277 00:15:53,311 --> 00:15:57,151 Speaker 3: Impress yourself and spy yourself, and keep pushing towards like 278 00:15:57,671 --> 00:16:02,631 Speaker 3: break rulves, you know, push limits. Like yeah, it's keep 279 00:16:02,831 --> 00:16:05,551 Speaker 3: going ahead. You know, I just don't think nothing more 280 00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:07,671 Speaker 3: but what's good for you? 281 00:16:07,671 --> 00:16:12,751 Speaker 1: You know, thank you about back yourself. I was just 282 00:16:12,791 --> 00:16:16,191 Speaker 1: gonna say for you, like from now, from here, what's 283 00:16:16,231 --> 00:16:18,711 Speaker 1: going on? Like, what's what's your next big Can you 284 00:16:18,711 --> 00:16:21,351 Speaker 1: share with us any projects anything in the pipeline? You're 285 00:16:21,351 --> 00:16:24,591 Speaker 1: performing somewhere where. What's going on for the next sat 286 00:16:24,631 --> 00:16:26,111 Speaker 1: twelve months for your follows. 287 00:16:26,351 --> 00:16:29,511 Speaker 2: We're kind of and I think after this, after South Byer, 288 00:16:29,511 --> 00:16:32,831 Speaker 2: we're gonna hit the studio. We're working on an album, 289 00:16:33,751 --> 00:16:35,951 Speaker 2: which is kind of cool. I think we're excited to 290 00:16:37,431 --> 00:16:40,951 Speaker 2: well at that point where we're like, we've kind of 291 00:16:41,151 --> 00:16:44,311 Speaker 2: found our feet with what we want to do sound wise. 292 00:16:45,191 --> 00:16:48,871 Speaker 2: I think the last four to five years was obviously 293 00:16:48,911 --> 00:16:52,111 Speaker 2: searching for what we wanted to do and what we 294 00:16:52,311 --> 00:16:55,071 Speaker 2: whatever we released, what was going to represent us the best. 295 00:16:55,431 --> 00:16:58,231 Speaker 2: And I think we're at that point, so we're gonna 296 00:16:58,271 --> 00:17:01,151 Speaker 2: hit the studio. We're looking to get an album at 297 00:17:02,191 --> 00:17:04,071 Speaker 2: or album ready by the end of the year. We're 298 00:17:04,071 --> 00:17:06,151 Speaker 2: not sure when they're going to drop it yet. And 299 00:17:06,271 --> 00:17:09,791 Speaker 2: next year we've got an artist coming over from New York. 300 00:17:09,831 --> 00:17:13,631 Speaker 2: Her name's Jasmia. We're hitting the studio with her when 301 00:17:13,671 --> 00:17:18,551 Speaker 2: we get back to Adelaide starting from Monday. We're doing 302 00:17:18,551 --> 00:17:21,031 Speaker 2: a collab with her. The collab is going to be 303 00:17:21,111 --> 00:17:24,191 Speaker 2: a part of our album. She's coming in as like 304 00:17:24,231 --> 00:17:30,351 Speaker 2: a mentor to obviously help us further our industry schools 305 00:17:30,391 --> 00:17:35,671 Speaker 2: more as artists, but also as obviously young fellas that 306 00:17:35,711 --> 00:17:38,231 Speaker 2: are still trying to find our feit in the industry 307 00:17:38,271 --> 00:17:40,191 Speaker 2: and just give us a bit of advice and like 308 00:17:40,791 --> 00:17:42,951 Speaker 2: where to go to and how we should go about 309 00:17:42,991 --> 00:17:44,551 Speaker 2: the next couple of years of our journey. 310 00:17:46,231 --> 00:17:50,551 Speaker 1: I'm so literally so excited for you fellas to be 311 00:17:50,591 --> 00:17:52,791 Speaker 1: able to you know, do what you love doing, you know, 312 00:17:52,911 --> 00:17:56,351 Speaker 1: sharing your culture, practicing your culture, going back to your 313 00:17:56,351 --> 00:18:00,671 Speaker 1: community and being you know that that kind of it's 314 00:18:00,711 --> 00:18:03,591 Speaker 1: not even providing hope for our young people. But sometimes 315 00:18:03,631 --> 00:18:05,471 Speaker 1: it seems like there's a lot of a lot of 316 00:18:05,511 --> 00:18:08,191 Speaker 1: ship that we deal with as black fellows in our 317 00:18:08,231 --> 00:18:12,791 Speaker 1: communities are. And sometimes music, I know, when I listen 318 00:18:12,791 --> 00:18:15,751 Speaker 1: to music, it's like an escape listen to music, but 319 00:18:15,831 --> 00:18:20,231 Speaker 1: listening to black music, I feel empowered. So people can 320 00:18:20,271 --> 00:18:22,271 Speaker 1: listen to you. Where do they find you? Before we 321 00:18:22,311 --> 00:18:25,231 Speaker 1: wrap up? Raise out, YouTube, Spotify, which way. 322 00:18:25,271 --> 00:18:30,391 Speaker 3: You can find us on Spotify, YouTube and like Instagram, Facebook, 323 00:18:30,391 --> 00:18:33,951 Speaker 3: you know, like we're everywhere everywhere, Yeah, pretty much everywhere. 324 00:18:33,991 --> 00:18:35,911 Speaker 2: Yeah, give us a shout out if you ever want 325 00:18:35,911 --> 00:18:38,231 Speaker 2: to talk, If you ever want to chat, just click 326 00:18:38,271 --> 00:18:41,151 Speaker 2: us a message and one of us will get. 327 00:18:43,111 --> 00:18:45,311 Speaker 1: Before they get too big, too famous and you need 328 00:18:45,351 --> 00:18:47,511 Speaker 1: to ring someone to talk to, someone, to get to someone. 329 00:18:48,071 --> 00:18:50,431 Speaker 1: You better reach out to these fellows now before they 330 00:18:50,471 --> 00:18:52,991 Speaker 1: blow up. Triple J. You fellows on the radio. 331 00:18:53,951 --> 00:18:56,151 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. To be honest, I was crazy because 332 00:18:56,151 --> 00:18:57,911 Speaker 3: I heard about that and I was like, Triple J 333 00:18:59,151 --> 00:19:01,471 Speaker 3: I never even heard of myself, Like, yeah, that was 334 00:19:01,551 --> 00:19:04,031 Speaker 3: pretty incredible. Like that was like, oh yeah, goes on 335 00:19:04,071 --> 00:19:10,591 Speaker 3: Triple Jay. And and then I'll see and they're like, yeah, okay. 336 00:19:10,311 --> 00:19:13,551 Speaker 1: That's a pinch pinch yourself moment. Your fellas growing up 337 00:19:13,591 --> 00:19:17,351 Speaker 1: in the community and now getting the opportunity to travel 338 00:19:17,391 --> 00:19:19,911 Speaker 1: the world. I heard you was in one of the 339 00:19:19,951 --> 00:19:23,031 Speaker 1: tallest buildings. How many stories, how many levels? 340 00:19:25,711 --> 00:19:27,151 Speaker 3: I swear it was one hundred and two. 341 00:19:28,831 --> 00:19:31,951 Speaker 1: Your fellows, you just look like everyday black fellows you 342 00:19:32,031 --> 00:19:35,031 Speaker 1: see down street. So hello, next minute is a you know, 343 00:19:35,271 --> 00:19:40,311 Speaker 1: singing and performing on global stages at global events for 344 00:19:40,551 --> 00:19:43,271 Speaker 1: my audience that have never heard of these fellows. I'm 345 00:19:43,271 --> 00:19:45,751 Speaker 1: sure now people be looking yours apps. I just want 346 00:19:45,791 --> 00:19:49,991 Speaker 1: to say congratulations for everything that you've achieved so far. 347 00:19:50,351 --> 00:19:53,031 Speaker 1: And I know, like I said, ive got I'm a mom, 348 00:19:53,071 --> 00:19:57,511 Speaker 1: I got little follows. They like to wrap. Maybe one 349 00:19:57,551 --> 00:19:59,471 Speaker 1: day they might take it serious, especially if they get 350 00:19:59,511 --> 00:20:01,951 Speaker 1: to sit and watch you, fellows. I would listen to 351 00:20:01,991 --> 00:20:04,631 Speaker 1: the podcast. Now, how many more of our young people 352 00:20:04,671 --> 00:20:07,191 Speaker 1: you might be able to say, Hey, there is there 353 00:20:07,271 --> 00:20:09,231 Speaker 1: is you know, there's light at the end of the tunnel. 354 00:20:09,271 --> 00:20:13,551 Speaker 1: There is opportunities. Don't give up. Stay in school. I 355 00:20:13,591 --> 00:20:16,951 Speaker 1: always tell my kids they want to quit school. I said, 356 00:20:16,951 --> 00:20:19,511 Speaker 1: don't worry's school right now. It's just a thing. It's 357 00:20:19,551 --> 00:20:21,631 Speaker 1: going to be in the past one that it's not forever. 358 00:20:21,791 --> 00:20:23,511 Speaker 3: I mean, like I did work to school a lot. 359 00:20:23,511 --> 00:20:25,351 Speaker 3: I did drop that a bit, but I regretted that. 360 00:20:25,551 --> 00:20:28,711 Speaker 3: So yeah, eleven and year twelve was the time to 361 00:20:28,711 --> 00:20:31,871 Speaker 3: redeem myself. So don't drop bad guys. Trust me like 362 00:20:31,991 --> 00:20:32,951 Speaker 3: it's terrible. 363 00:20:33,151 --> 00:20:35,911 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't make the mistakes. Listen to this fellow is 364 00:20:35,991 --> 00:20:38,231 Speaker 1: been there, done that, and look where he is now. 365 00:20:38,711 --> 00:20:41,311 Speaker 1: So I just want to say all the best here 366 00:20:41,831 --> 00:20:45,471 Speaker 1: on my country. I hope you have a deadly show 367 00:20:45,591 --> 00:20:48,231 Speaker 1: and you have the best time ever. Next time maybe 368 00:20:48,231 --> 00:20:50,231 Speaker 1: we come, we'll be able to come visit your community 369 00:20:50,231 --> 00:20:52,831 Speaker 1: and see you fellas in your in your own environment, 370 00:20:52,871 --> 00:20:56,351 Speaker 1: in your own elements. So all the best for south 371 00:20:56,391 --> 00:21:02,351 Speaker 1: By Southwest, stay black. You're welcome, my brother, Thank you 372 00:21:02,871 --> 00:21:07,151 Speaker 1: hell Yeah. If you'd like any more info on today's guest, 373 00:21:07,271 --> 00:21:12,231 Speaker 1: please visit our show notes in the episode description. A 374 00:21:12,231 --> 00:21:15,071 Speaker 1: big shout out to all you Deadly Mob and allies 375 00:21:15,071 --> 00:21:18,711 Speaker 1: who continue to listen, watch, and support our podcast. Your 376 00:21:18,711 --> 00:21:21,951 Speaker 1: feedback means the world. 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