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Speaker 1: Powered by the iHeartRadio app from ninety six airfam to

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Speaker 1: wherever you're listening today, This is Clearsy and leases podcast.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the podcast today, John Aitken joins us

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Speaker 2: Maths is back in.

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Speaker 3: Town and of course there's been a heat way, But

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Speaker 3: we asked you when was the hottest you've ever been?

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Speaker 2: Matt had Graft swings bid to talk Billy Joel and

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Speaker 2: Elton John featuring in his upcoming fringe shows.

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Speaker 3: It was a packed sure report, including another celeb doing

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Speaker 3: a shoey once in Australia, and.

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Speaker 2: Peter Garrett talks to us about his upcoming show in

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Speaker 2: a very unconventional space.

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Speaker 3: He won't be doing any shoeies.

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Speaker 4: Here we go again. She played White Snake.

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Speaker 5: Go again.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Look, we've got a great cast this year. They're very

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Speaker 5: unfiltered and raw. Yes, slightly younger this year, but we

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Speaker 5: have some real interesting twists along the way. One of

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Speaker 5: the things that I noticed that hasn't happened before is

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Speaker 5: that TikTok social media is really influencing people's approaches to

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Speaker 5: dating and relationships, and this year those really extreme mindsets

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Speaker 5: show up on the experiments. So we have our trade wives,

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Speaker 5: we have our men with their warrior mindsets, and they're very,

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Speaker 5: very fixed about what they want and what they won't

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Speaker 5: put up with. And there's no commitment they don't want

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Speaker 5: because they are able to swipe, you know, out in

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Speaker 5: the real world so quickly. So it's very transactional.

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Speaker 4: This is the thing what they won't put up with.

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Speaker 2: There's very little negotiations, it seems these days, among people,

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna I mean you, I would think you'd

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Speaker 2: have to snap out of that.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's one of our roles this year is really

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Speaker 5: to shake them up and say listen.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't know given that's right, there's got to.

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Speaker 5: Be some compromise here. But they love being in their

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Speaker 5: fem roles and their masculine roles, and they're very particular

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Speaker 5: about deal breakers. And they've always got this sense of

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Speaker 5: the grass is greener and if this person it doesn't

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Speaker 5: take every single one of these many boxes, then John,

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Speaker 5: you're to blame. You're a failure, and I'm going to

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Speaker 5: have you up on it.

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Speaker 2: Actually, this is really serious, this attitude that has developed,

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Speaker 2: because it is it is completely a false world that

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Speaker 4: Yes, and John, what do you foresee down the track?

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Speaker 2: In twenty years has been the stage of relationships.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm hoping that people realize that, you know, getting

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Speaker 5: your dating and relationship advice from TikTok actually probably is

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Speaker 5: not the best thing to do. You're better off to

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Speaker 5: go and meet someone face to face or talk to

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Speaker 5: someone who's got expertise about it. And I think there

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Speaker 5: is a move going back to that, you know, people

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Speaker 5: getting to running clubs where they're trying to you know,

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Speaker 5: actually converse with people face to face rather than just

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Speaker 5: on apps which are very physically based.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're what about the swiping thing though, because there

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Speaker 3: was a time I think, you know, my mum and dad'

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Speaker 3: that it was. There was a divorce, the divorce came up,

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Speaker 3: whereas now it's so easy for popping, but it feels

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Speaker 5: That's right. And so what you see on the show

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Speaker 5: That's one of the secret sources of the shows that

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Speaker 5: we tap into the zeitguys. So if it's gas lighting,

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Speaker 5: it'll show up on our show. If it's people speaking

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Speaker 5: their truth only.

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Speaker 4: Fan God, I hate that expression.

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Speaker 6: Speak truth.

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Speaker 5: This year it's all about social.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is very interesting. You have a real responsibility.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the show is now a cautionary tale. It's so

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Speaker 2: many things and it could well hopefully be the thing

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Speaker 2: people to understand that it's not how it is on TikTok.

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Speaker 5: I think there's gonna be a lot of noise around

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Speaker 5: it because people will hear things and go, really, you

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Speaker 5: don't want a woman with any ambition or career? Is

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Speaker 5: that really what you're you're telling me? So get ready

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Speaker 5: for that, Get ready for couples. That twist this year

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Speaker 5: is that one of our couples knew each other.

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Speaker 4: Okay, do we matched? It's taken ten years, but yeah.

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Speaker 5: They walk down the aisle, they turn around and go

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Speaker 5: oh you oh really yes, Yeah, we've never had that before,

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Speaker 5: but we leaned into it. What's going to happen? Can

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Speaker 5: the couples because they know what's coming. Generally they've seen

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Speaker 5: eleven seasons of it. Yeah, so we did this to

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Speaker 5: shake them up, and it really did and it gets

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Speaker 5: them to think about, Okay, what do we do with

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Speaker 5: temptation here? So that's all I'll tell you about it.

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Speaker 5: But it really does wrong to a number of our couples.

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Speaker 3: It's easy for us to curate people curate their lives,

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Speaker 3: especially on social media, but you can't under the you know,

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Speaker 3: once they're on the show, they can only last for

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Speaker 3: a while, can't it the real person in the mind?

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Speaker 5: That's right, I'd say, you know, I mean, you can

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Speaker 5: three weeks, and then you really see the true selves

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Speaker 5: because they're not very aware of what they're like, and

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Speaker 5: they really struggle when it comes to intimacy, and so

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Speaker 5: up and say, this is how you're running your life romantically,

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Speaker 5: what are you going to do here? Because there's a

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Speaker 2: I'm so stuck on this something about the people that

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Speaker 2: Like if it was one that ran for the hills

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Speaker 4: That it stopped us. I'm key to see how that

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Speaker 5: I'll let you find out about that, because how that ended, really,

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Speaker 5: were able to get together this time on our show,

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Speaker 5: you know, so stay tuned for that one.

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Speaker 2: All right. So we've got five people from w A.

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Speaker 2: That's definitely the most that we've ever had, Yes.

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Speaker 5: And they're fantastic. You know, they're a great cast from

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Speaker 5: everything of themselves, you know, which is what you need.

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Speaker 5: You don't want them narrating their image or trying to,

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Speaker 5: you know, be someone behind closed doors. It's different on camera.

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Speaker 3: We're saying that they think that, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 5: That's right. But these guys from w A really just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, from different walks of life, similar ages, but very

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Speaker 5: We got I think Paul. He's a Frenchman, a very

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Speaker 5: fit wellness advisor. Karina is very glamorous. Yes, Karina is

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Speaker 5: our fashion easter of the show. She's amazing, but she

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Speaker 5: also very very interestingly. She doesn't like conflict, finds herself

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Speaker 5: dinner parties are so extreme. Jake's very quirky and his

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Speaker 5: match is very interesting in terms of how unique and

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Speaker 5: special they are. Afena is our solo parent and she's

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Speaker 5: very much hard on a sleeve, okay, gives you everything

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Speaker 5: Billy Billy the plaster from the UK. He's great, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I geezer geezer and he rips it up.

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Speaker 4: And here the mummies by self proclaimed possibly he is

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Speaker 5: To he's a good look and he's very fun that

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Speaker 2: It's still a ratings juggernaut. Yeah, you know, we talk

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Speaker 2: it in some way when you talked earlier about how

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Speaker 2: it's ever evolving. You know, this year we are dealing

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Speaker 2: relationships should work. And everyone's the most important person in

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Speaker 2: evolve as it evolves, and we're all.

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Speaker 4: That's why it continues to rate. Yes, because it's not

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Speaker 4: the same old, same old every week.

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Speaker 5: We don't really need to tweak the format that much.

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Speaker 5: Every now and then we'll do something to keep people guessing.

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Speaker 5: But ultimately the show lives and dies on the cast,

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Speaker 5: and they bring in all of their patterns, their backgrounds,

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Speaker 5: the insecurities and vulnerabilities. That really is what makes the show.

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Speaker 5: And then you've got the experts. We're very We go

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Speaker 5: much harder at them now than we did several years ago.

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Speaker 4: You have to, because they get They behave extremely the

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Speaker 4: bit of bad chat yes yeah, politeness, I'm with you,

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Speaker 5: There they don't go you yeah, which is a real

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Speaker 5: so going back, that's right, and I think it's a

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Speaker 5: the judges, the experts, they're put on a pedestal. They

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Speaker 5: come in, true, they give their opinions, and then they

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Speaker 5: leave and everybody goes, thank you very much. On our show,

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Speaker 5: we give our opinions and they go, John, you don't

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Speaker 3: You're right, because no one flicks auce on menu, did they.

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Speaker 5: You know this is the thing, really absolutely, And I

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Speaker 5: a commitment ceremony and you've got to give feedback. You know,

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Speaker 5: they're not your friends. You know, they are people that

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Speaker 5: they've never been spoken to in a way which really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm curious about his final test because they

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Speaker 3: keep it fresh for you guys as well. Wouldn't it

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Speaker 3: something different?

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Speaker 5: Yes? Yes, And I have to say that I was

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Speaker 5: surprised at some of the very poor choices of our participants.

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Speaker 2: Oh nothing surprises me and I can't wait not to

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Speaker 2: be surprised or not surprised again for another season.

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Speaker 4: John, thanks for popping in the smooth.

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Speaker 5: A pleasure, lovely to see you too.

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Speaker 3: You too, and we haven't seen it, seen you for

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Speaker 3: a year, but you Benjamin Button, what's going on? You

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Speaker 3: look five years at.

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Speaker 4: Anyone else taking backwards.

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Speaker 5: I love you, guys, I love you.

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Speaker 4: It's a bit freaky.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's just all the stress in my life dealing

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Speaker 5: with all these participants.

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Speaker 3: Budget blush before six twenty.

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be another hot day in Perth, so

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Speaker 3: we thought we'd take it to the phones today. Okay,

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Speaker 3: not about today's weather or this week's weather, but about

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Speaker 2: Well, growing up in the seventies without air conditioning, living

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Speaker 2: boiling boiling all night.

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Speaker 4: Yes, like just cooking in your own.

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Speaker 2: Self juice, your own sweets, absolutely vile. Right now, Yes

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Speaker 2: It seems like such an extreme reaction to a broken

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Speaker 3: Fill in the pool single month for kids.

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 3: You could have.

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Speaker 4: Do you fill in a pool?

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Speaker 3: Everything went in there, put it in the pool room, everything.

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Speaker 8: Had an old clothesline, you held toys, that's called landfill

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Speaker 9: You have to fill it in with you meant that,

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Speaker 9: you meant that proper filter. Yeah, so the level kept

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Speaker 3: Exscelluentely so other friends, you know, the rich friends around

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Speaker 5: Idiot.

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Speaker 3: He was filling in the pool. The hottest I've ever

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Speaker 4: Biz, Yeah, I do think that is a bizarre reaction.

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Speaker 3: That's what she did to Margaret, broken pool filter. She

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, drain the pool.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we don't train it, but then you're going

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you might have got a for Christmas.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about it anymore. I've had

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Speaker 4: Ten sixty five.

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Speaker 2: Our text number A zero four seven six ninety six

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Speaker 3: Here you go, bears good for you, Barry, Yeah, good

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Speaker 2: Christy on the text, Christy in Westminster says she remembers

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety seven was forty six point something. Forty six

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Speaker 2: point something. Tim in Bilia says the hottest he he's

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Speaker 4: Air conditioner couldn't keep up with it.

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Speaker 2: But the beer after work was the best beer ever

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Speaker 3: How cold and how satisfying. Let's go to high work

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Speaker 5: Denise, good morning, How are you good?

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Speaker 4: Denise? Was the host you've been So?

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Speaker 10: It was November twenty three and I was doing release

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Speaker 10: I walked there. This day. It was very hot, very humid,

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Speaker 5: So it's horrible.

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Speaker 10: Consequently, so consequently I drove after that. So yeah, trying

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Speaker 3: So especially on steamy days, is not that great.

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Speaker 10: Hot all day. Walked home and thought I was, Yes,

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Speaker 10: so anyway, I've never and I grew up in billiona

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Speaker 10: Ora Coole Guardian, I grew up in the air conditioning.

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Speaker 10: It was the hottest I've ever been. Yes, anyway, I did.

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Speaker 10: I cooled down eventually, but it.

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Speaker 5: Was pretty hard on fire.

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Speaker 3: I ended up with that butterby Joyce kind of a completion.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, that's hot.

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Speaker 4: It's like menopause. That's the hardest you'll ever be.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you right now, Peter and Iky, what's

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Speaker 2: the hordest you've ever.

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Speaker 12: Been in your year? To Basically, well, I was hearing

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Speaker 12: which is and that was.

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Speaker 3: Cooler, yeah.

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Speaker 12: Water, and with it. Then at the end of the

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Speaker 12: then the people were fading us cheese sandwiches and well

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Speaker 12: we're working so hard, but so and then there was

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Speaker 12: no freak for a cold beer, sock.

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Speaker 4: And hang it out to us, sock.

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Speaker 3: It's like a cool guardy cooler eighteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 12: Yes, after the first two it didn't matter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you tell the kids today that I never believe you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that that piper above the ground, mate, that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: And we're there for about nine days.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, earned your money?

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Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we definitely didn't. Then they can.

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Speaker 3: Blak you too.

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Speaker 4: Have first beer when you go back from that. That

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Speaker 3: Wasn't it bloody hard work? I'd imagine too.

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Speaker 2: Jesse and Armadale on the text says, the hottest I've

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Speaker 2: broken air Connor remember that year was really rue, really

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Speaker 2: hot Christmas Day. And Chris from Haynes says he's been

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Speaker 2: like Barry. Hardest I've been was the day I married

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Speaker 3: Hey, good for you, Chris. Yeah, got a bit of swagger.

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Speaker 3: Love that right, It's gonna being good. Aaron, When was

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Speaker 3: the hottest you ever have been?

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Speaker 4: Good morning?

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Speaker 11: Ninety four?

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Speaker 3: Okay, nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 11: I was thirty six weeks pregnant. Oh, it was forty

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Speaker 11: three degrees. I was an Oh where was it?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 11: I'm going to the steady somewhere. And so basically you're

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Speaker 11: feel like a whale. And I can remember lying in

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Speaker 11: bellies aren't just static. So as the baby moves like

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Speaker 11: need to get out. Now you're big enough, You're going

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Speaker 11: to be fine out And the bellys just waving, waving

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Speaker 11: And she said for another four weeks. She didn't want

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Speaker 3: For the four weeks.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 12: It wasn't fine.

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Speaker 1: Wine flu. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 11: I had forty two degrees as a temperature when I

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Speaker 3: Sar, you want that water to be cool, and.

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Speaker 4: Yes you would. Jeff in Balladura, what's the hottest you've

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Speaker 7: Back in the day of a removalist?

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Speaker 7: And we had to go up to Fitzroy Crossing. I

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Speaker 7: For some reason, I picked the dough the shed to

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Speaker 11: Was horrific.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: How long in did the shed did you realize you

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Speaker 7: Jeff absolutely should have took the kitchen.

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Speaker 4: Shed the sheds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 7: He must have been a woodwork teacher or something. He

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Speaker 4: That's dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Jeff and Jeff.

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Speaker 2: All right, do we all feel a bit better now

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Speaker 2: about It's not so bad?

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Speaker 3: It's warm more more podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Matt had Graft has told us the story behind that song.

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Speaker 2: But that's not in the show, is it, Matt.

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Speaker 6: That's not in the show, So I don't have to

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Speaker 4: We're going to have to quickly tell the story.

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Speaker 6: Very quickly. Indeed, Billy Joel had a depressing moment in

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Speaker 6: by drinking bleach, and then he thought, no, furniture polish

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Speaker 3: Now the ledge is very shiny, yes now.

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Speaker 2: Elton John and Billy Joel individually fantastic. I've seen them together,

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Speaker 6: The thing I love about Elton John is, especially the

445
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Speaker 6: ones I picked from the seventies, just so singable. There's

446
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Speaker 6: something iconic in every one of the songs, you know,

447
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Speaker 6: whether it whoops up to something up in his high voice,

448
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Speaker 6: or whether it's just a good old tune. It's just fun.

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Speaker 6: And those kinds of songs where that you remember them

450
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Speaker 6: from the radio being on in the background while you

451
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Speaker 6: did something else, but it became part of your DNA.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I heard Philadelphia Freedom the other day when I

453
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Speaker 3: was shopping, and I went, what a great song. Haven't

454
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Speaker 3: heard it for you?

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Speaker 6: It's awesome and you know. But the other thing I

456
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Speaker 6: find is everyone if you look around a shop when

457
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Speaker 6: something like Rocketman comes up, you see everyone lip syncing toyah.

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Speaker 3: Especially since the movie yes the music to another level

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Speaker 3: with another audience.

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Speaker 6: And it revitalized it. Favorite CPR have another innings.

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Speaker 3: How do you pick the songs because there were so

462
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Speaker 3: many for both artists.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was hard as anything, and I just kind

464
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Speaker 6: of thought. I was looking down the list of them

465
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Speaker 6: and I thought, what part of that song does everyone

466
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Speaker 6: just know?

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Speaker 5: You know?

468
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Speaker 6: Some people, you know, people come up and they go like, oh,

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Speaker 6: you're going to do are you going to do mad Catism?

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Speaker 6: I'm like, no, what, Yeah, people kind of vaguely know

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Speaker 6: that some thing like Candle in the Wind, everyone just

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Speaker 6: knows it not and nobody knows how.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yes, It's like when they start singing Tiny Dancer and

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Speaker 2: almost Famous on the Bus.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, everybody does. That's the thing. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'm confident everyone knows all of the songs in the show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So they're all relatable ones that very much. Do

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Speaker 2: you have a favorite song by each of them?

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Speaker 6: In the in this show? I love Benny and the Jets.

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Speaker 6: There's just something about it that.

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Speaker 2: Just I've always loved Benny and the Jets, and of

484
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Speaker 2: course he launched the you know, the final concert with.

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Speaker 4: That, and it was just the best at.

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Speaker 3: Moment high notes to get that.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what you're talking about. Luckily you can

488
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Speaker 6: outsource that kind of thing to a fun crowd. Wise,

489
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Speaker 6: you haven't heard something until you've heard all the men

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Speaker 6: singing the Benny bit. Oh, it's gorgeous right now, it's great,

491
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Speaker 6: I'm heard. Okay, as you wish, you're a courage people

492
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Speaker 6: to sing along?

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Speaker 4: Why would I dress up?

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Speaker 6: Exactly?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 6: You know, fewer people dress up because I don't know why.

497
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Speaker 6: Maybe they maybe they just didn't nit past the costume

498
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Speaker 6: store that day. But everyone's encouraged to sing along. In fact,

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Speaker 6: you'll get a QR code and when you scan it,

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Speaker 6: it'll bring up the words.

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Speaker 4: So you can get it out exactly baptastic.

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Speaker 6: Why would you want to go and see anything to

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Speaker 6: do with Elton John without singing along to it? You're

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Speaker 6: ic you to be part of it.

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Speaker 3: Now when as a performer, how do you feel about

506
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Speaker 3: the billy stuff when you haven't played it and you

507
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Speaker 3: you're debuting, how do you feel about that? Do you know,

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Speaker 3: it's exciting.

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Speaker 6: It is exciting and terrifying at the same time. But

510
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Speaker 6: they you know, they say, the hardest note to play

511
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Speaker 6: is the first one, and then after that you just

512
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Speaker 6: remember why you love songs like this. And with Billy,

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Speaker 6: Joel he's really like I mean, you know, with Elton

514
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Speaker 6: he wrote the music and Bernie toy Will Joel kind

515
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Speaker 6: of did everything. And the words are really really, really

516
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Speaker 6: sophisticated and a bugger to learn, let me tell you.

517
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Speaker 6: But once the songs get going, they just kind of

518
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Speaker 6: they have their own life. I think I'm just a

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Speaker 6: just a conduit sitting up there.

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Speaker 2: You are You've done us some other shows as well.

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Speaker 2: You've done Peter Allen, Oh yes, boy from Oswald.

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Speaker 6: If I had energy to do that again. I'll tell

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Speaker 6: you what.

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Speaker 2: One of our favorite guests on this show actually is.

525
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Speaker 2: Joel Jackson. I don't oh yeah, Joel is from Albany.

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Speaker 2: He played Peter Allen and he was the boy and

527
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Speaker 2: he was amazing. It must he must just be the

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Speaker 2: most divine character to play Peter Allen.

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Speaker 6: He is great just because there's nothing. When I say

530
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Speaker 6: he's not skilled, I don't mean that in a bitchy

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Speaker 6: way the thing was. He he's just so authentic with

532
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Speaker 6: how he got up there and his body moved around,

533
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Speaker 6: he jumped about the place.

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Speaker 4: Just before his time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he never he never let the audience out of

536
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Speaker 6: his side either, watching Alan John his faces down the

537
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Speaker 6: whole time. Peter Allen locked eyes with the audience and

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Speaker 6: did let.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: It's so good though, and I'm reassured that he drops

541
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Speaker 6: notes on the piano all the timely. Yeah, but just

542
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Speaker 6: what you get his energy from him? So yeah, at

543
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Speaker 6: the end of one of those shows, you're sleep.

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Speaker 3: Well, Oh I bet you?

545
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And the others who played me, Hugh Jackman, they

547
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Speaker 3: said the same thing, although the jack Show was more

548
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Speaker 3: about the celebrity of Jackman taking everything the.

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Speaker 6: Care well the thing. I met Todd McKenney and he

550
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Speaker 6: said the same kind of thing too, and he gave

551
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Speaker 6: me a video that was just like, please go and

552
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Speaker 6: see Matt's show. So I don't have to do it anymore.

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Speaker 4: I feel like Peter Allen's never been played by anyone ordinary.

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Speaker 3: No, I'll take yourself.

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Speaker 4: I do have to ask about the Abbot show though, Benny.

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Speaker 6: I was Benny and brew my hair. It's called a

557
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Speaker 6: lioness head yea, and yeah, okay, well I'm in real

558
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Speaker 6: hair helps because he swings his head around all the

559
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Speaker 6: plays and yeah, and I apprenticed in having to stand

560
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Speaker 6: up to play piano.

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Speaker 3: Oh how did you go? I don't know.

562
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Speaker 5: I just I.

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Speaker 6: Didn't wasn't part of a gym at the time, and

564
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Speaker 6: I didn't need to do because between Peter Allen and Benny. Yeah,

565
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Speaker 6: some chiropractice is going to make a fortune out of

566
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Speaker 6: my neck.

567
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Speaker 3: You get the trifect. You play John Lord from Deep

568
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Speaker 3: Purple Fashion with a heavy rock band.

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Speaker 6: It's possibly not as campy as my.

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Speaker 2: Definitely this time it's the great piano players Elton John

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Speaker 2: and Billy Joel. Your song is Tonight and Tomorrow Night.

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Speaker 2: Billy's just the way you are as Friday and Saturday.

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Speaker 2: All of His Majesty's tickets are available through Fringe world

574
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Speaker 2: dot com dot Are you thank you for coming in

575
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Speaker 2: so early in the morning.

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Speaker 4: We know it's early for French people.

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Speaker 6: No, thank you for having me. In fact, I popped

578
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Speaker 6: over and put my clothes in the laundromat before I came.

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Speaker 5: It's incredible.

580
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Speaker 4: I didn't want to say anything. Matt.

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Speaker 6: We got get a visual of this somewhere and now

582
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Speaker 6: you'm a beaver.

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Speaker 3: Now he makes my brothers at the stealing your your small.

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Speaker 6: Half is luck jeez if they fit him.

585
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Speaker 3: The Sure Report on ninety six air FM, there's.

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Speaker 2: A headline this morning that says Benson Boone embraces Australian

587
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Speaker 2: tradition with an on stage showy ugh, it's I blame

588
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Speaker 2: you Daniel Ricardo for this.

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Speaker 4: It's not an Aussie tradition.

590
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Speaker 2: It's gross. It's not a tradition. It's not a thing.

591
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: It's just a gross thing Daniel did once after a race.

592
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Speaker 4: Yuck. Stop calling it an Ossie tradition. I'm embarrassed. But anyway,

593
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Speaker 4: so Benson Boone, he's this guy, M.

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Speaker 10: Please stay, I want you, I need you.

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Speaker 5: Hold God?

596
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Speaker 2: Do tick?

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Speaker 4: Is this beautiful thing that I've gone?

598
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Speaker 2: He was doing a sold out performance at Sydney's Horde

599
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Speaker 2: and Pavilion when he paused the show to drink.

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Speaker 4: Water out of a cowboy boot.

601
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Speaker 2: However, Boone opted for a sanitized twist, using bottled water

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Speaker 2: and a clean boot.

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Speaker 10: And do I put a lot of water? It just

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Speaker 10: a little bit like how much I'm going to drink

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Speaker 10: right now?

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Speaker 5: You know what?

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Speaker 2: When in Australia, stars like post Malone, Lizzo I wouldn't

608
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Speaker 2: want to drink out of post Malone, shoe Oh My God,

609
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 2: and Harry Styles have all famously done shoeies while on

610
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Speaker 2: tour down Under in recent years.

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Speaker 4: Hence it now copying the Ossie tradition label.

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Speaker 3: Damn SOEs that mean, now you build that up, You're

613
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Speaker 3: going to do one and we're going to film it

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be on the social.

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Speaker 2: Yes, not an AUSSI tradition's gross. The last living member

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Speaker 2: of the band, multi instrumentalist Garth Hudson, has died peacefully

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Speaker 2: in his sleep in Woodstock, in New York's. He was

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Speaker 2: eighty seven.

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Speaker 5: Beladree be held.

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Speaker 2: You put the Long Run on Well talking about great songs.

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Speaker 2: Scart played piano on that wonderful song The Weight. He

622
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Speaker 2: was also the band's archivist, helping to document the band's

623
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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty six tour with Bob Dylan. This is why

624
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Speaker 2: they were called the band because they were Bob Dylan's

625
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Speaker 2: band when Dylan controversially went electric. Big Pink and John

626
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Speaker 2: Sykes has died overnight. He was a guitarist with White

627
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Speaker 2: Snake and Thin Lizzie John was sixty five. Sadly he

628
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Speaker 2: had been battling cancer for several years.

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Speaker 4: Now, this is what I alluded to before.

630
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Speaker 2: Billy Idol and Joan Jets are going on tour together.

631
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Speaker 2: They're promoting it as it's a nice day to go

632
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Speaker 2: on tour again. At this stage they've only announced states

633
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Speaker 2: in the US and Canada. But I'm saying at this

634
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Speaker 2: stage because you know, you never know, never never know,

635
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Speaker 2: you never know, you know.

636
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Speaker 3: I stay for a white wedding. If you love rock

637
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: and rock.

638
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 6: More Clesya more podcast.

639
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: Soon you can catch Peter Garrett and the Alter Egos

640
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Speaker 2: February twenty eight at the East Perth power Station as

641
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Speaker 2: part of the Perth Festival.

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Speaker 4: Tickets are available through Perth Festival dot com, dot au

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Speaker 4: and Peter Garrett is joining us now.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, morning, morning.

645
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Speaker 2: Peter Garrett playing at a power station just speaks to

646
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Speaker 2: me in a very kismety way.

647
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Speaker 1: It's a better way to do it, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Put it in absolutely, It's been elaborated for years.

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Speaker 4: Nice to see it.

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Speaker 1: Being used totally totally. Well look, I mean, you know

651
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Speaker 1: it's great and exciting and all of that stuff. To

652
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Speaker 1: still be playing and you know, to scratch the itch

653
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Speaker 1: and to really let that energy thing, which I'm very

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Speaker 1: thankful for still run its course, and the fact that

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Speaker 1: we're able to come over and do a show. It's

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Speaker 1: part of the fist. Obviously it's a really good thing

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Speaker 1: and very cool and exciting and so on. But I

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Speaker 1: also like inhabiting different spaces and places when we play

659
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Speaker 1: Loved It in the Oars, Loved It in the Altars,

660
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Speaker 1: and transforming something from what it was into something new

661
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Speaker 1: where people can actually just gather and celebrate and enjoy

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Speaker 1: and you know, have a night of it.

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Speaker 2: You've never been a shin and to a mere man

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Speaker 2: on stage, so I can't imagine what you would what

665
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Speaker 2: you know, state you'd be in if you didn't have

666
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Speaker 2: that outlet out on stage to.

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00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: Worry those boats. You feel the same way.

668
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly.

669
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: Actually, what do you get bored at home? Paid what

670
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: do you like to be out in the road? Duntain

671
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: and they're doing different.

672
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: Boredom and all that stuff. It's just not in my

673
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: DNA really, But I think, you know, when I think

674
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: about it, and I think about the time with the Oars,

675
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: and even when we've played over in the West, or

676
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: wherever it might have been. Just that opportunity that incredible.

677
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 1: It's like the sacred space, you know, the fact that

678
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: you can still occupy a stage and you know you've

679
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: got music and you've got things that you want to say,

680
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: and you want to make the night. You want to

681
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: make it shimmer and shake as much as you can.

682
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: And yeah, if I have to do it elsewhere, I'm

683
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: happy to do it elsewhere. But I love it. And

684
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: I've got plenty else things that I'm doing and lots

685
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: of stuff that I'm interested in, and you know, the

686
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: sub politics or whatever it might be. But you know,

687
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: at this point in time, it's still it's a retreat,

688
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, to be able to take that energy and

689
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: to utilize it and to bring some really fine missings

690
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: on stage. Matt Lossy's playing with me, made the record

691
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: with me, and you know it's just it's a heap

692
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: of fun. Yeah.

693
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: True North solo album came out last year. How do

694
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: you find the process, you know, when you when you're

695
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: going solo, the decision making the recording. I mean, sometimes

696
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: I guess life can be a bit careful what you

697
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: wish for.

698
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: Well, you know the truth of it is that I mean,

699
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: I suppose it is. It is a solo thing. It

700
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it to me, just feels like an

701
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: offshoot what I've always been doing.

702
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 4: Okay, the boys.

703
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: Always had other projects some ago, and I think, yeah,

704
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: when I made a first record, I thought, oh, this

705
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: is fun. I don't have to please for other people,

706
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, So that side of it, You've got a

707
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: bit more freedom to explore things. And it's also the

708
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: unpredictability of not knowing where a song will go. I

709
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: mean the power and the intensity that we were, you know,

710
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: like absolutely welded and so incredibly lucky to have in

711
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: the oils. There was always a surplus of that, you know.

712
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: We always we didn't have two forty, you know, we

713
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: had five hundred. So the authors, I think it's it's different,

714
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: but it's also just it's doing the same thing in

715
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: a different way and just enjoying the business of creativity.

716
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: I found it. I had a lark, you know, like

717
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: I was in the sandpit. Really that was probably the

718
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: best way to describe it.

719
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: But you talked about things you like doing. I like

720
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: walking up the street. I live in Free and walked

721
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 3: up to Essex Street. Cine was last year and plucked

722
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: myself down to see your movie The Hardest Line Docco,

723
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: which was real, and the aid of various ages of

724
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: people watching the Midnight Oil movie were it was incredible.

725
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: There were fans older than me I'm fifty nine, and

726
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 3: there was some twenty somethings as well. That's the appeal

727
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: of the Oil's music, isn't it.

728
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 1: Well. I mean, I think if you hang around long enough,

729
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: then you know, people interest in produce to their kids

730
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: or their younger brothers and sisters or whatever. It was interesting.

731
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think when we came back out, we

732
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: noticed that, you know, there was another generation of people

733
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: that had come to see us, and that's I mean,

734
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: that's just you don't expect that, and it's very very special.

735
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: But I think the other thing is a lot of

736
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: what we are on about, both the way that we played,

737
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: the way I approached the business of performing, and the

738
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: things that we sing about. Unfortunately, some of them are

739
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: things which we were, you know, wanting to raise the

740
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: flag on and maybe sort of say hey, this is

741
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: what we think. And there's still stuff that's very important.

742
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: So in some ways it's like, oh God, are we

743
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: still singing about this? But in other ways you realize

744
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: it's actually, you know, historically speaking, probably a pretty short

745
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: period of times, so there's a relevance there also, which

746
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: counts for us. I think finally, last but not least,

747
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: I carried this through with what I'm doing. Martin has

748
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: Jim and Robb doing their own ways like it's the

749
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: biggest obvious statement of the bleeding obviously you've ever heard.

750
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: But it was always about the music and the message.

751
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, if that's still got juice and

752
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: it's still cut through, then you're going to get it

753
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: to people, no matter what age they are or where

754
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: they live. Yeah.

755
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 2: Well, Blue sky Mining for One turns thirty five this year.

756
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: It contains one of the most important songs to this

757
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: state ever, you know.

758
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: I mean they should teach that in school, really, Blue.

759
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: Sky Mine and the history of Whitnamen, so that we

760
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: never see anything.

761
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 4: Like that again.

762
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: Peter Garrett, it has been lovely to chat to you.

763
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: The Alter Egos. February the twenty eighth that the East

764
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Speaker 2: Perth Power Station. You can get tickets through Perthfestival dot

765
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Speaker 2: com dot au.

766
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Speaker 4: Look forward to seeing you in town.

767
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: No, we're excited about it's going to be a blast.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, good to you again, Crazy Lisa