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Speaker 1: This time for the week that was, and in the

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners. It was a bit

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Speaker 2: cold in the Royal. They have my jacket on this

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Speaker 2: morning and my horses.

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Speaker 1: It does seem like it's called down a little bit

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Speaker 1: this morning. We've got Kate Warden from the Northern Suburbs

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Speaker 1: for the Labor Party. Good morning to you, Good morning Kaddy.

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Speaker 3: And I was out at Palmerston at six o'clock this

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Speaker 3: morning and it was only eighteen degrees and I had

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Speaker 1: Glorious Matt Cunningham from the Republic of Nightcliff, Good morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm good to have you.

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Speaker 4: In the studio.

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Speaker 1: Things going this morning, back coming in. Welcome back mate

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Speaker 1: after a week off.

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Speaker 5: We want to see it again. We want to see

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Speaker 5: it again.

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Speaker 1: Geezyer Bury, remember morning. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 6: No yellow triangles out my ways, especially morning bush people

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Speaker 6: well lit, not on my property.

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Speaker 1: Well look, I do want to actually start with some

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Speaker 1: news from overnight now. Northern Territory Police just issuing a

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Speaker 1: police received reports of a man threatening residents with a

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Speaker 1: firearm in the vicinity of Somerville Gardens in perap Police

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Speaker 1: with the assistance of the Territory Response Group and accordum

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Speaker 1: was established around the units. Now, the man allegedly exited

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Speaker 1: shot in his direction before the man re entered his

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Speaker 1: safely apprehended by police at about five a m. After

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Speaker 1: and no injuries have been reported and there is no

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Speaker 1: is being investigated as a serious custody incident and will

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Speaker 1: Dole has said the incident highlights the risks faced every

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Speaker 1: day by our officers and I support the actions of

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Speaker 1: the members in keeping the public safe in difficult and

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Speaker 1: dangerous circumstances. And it certainly does sound like a pretty

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Speaker 2: I just want to say that the police officer are

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Speaker 2: So look, you know, I don't want to speak about incident.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's some mental health issues, but I just want

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Speaker 2: to say the police are doing a great job and

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Speaker 5: Back in Oh that's a first on this show, isn't it, Jared?

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Speaker 5: But it's true.

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Speaker 3: Our front frontline police officers, they do an amazing job

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Speaker 3: every day. And I think, you know, you can read

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Speaker 3: That's you know, we need to make sure that they

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Speaker 5: And this is just an example of why we need.

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Speaker 3: A very highly trained tig to be honest Katie's and

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Speaker 3: that's why we've got them. And that's my understanding is

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Speaker 3: this morning they responded appropriately and did a fantastic job.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, the police have absolutely been needed throughout this week,

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Speaker 1: there is no doubt about that. We know that. The

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police Commissioner Michael Murphy announced yesterday that he

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Speaker 1: public public disorder declaration. Now that followed on, of course,

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Speaker 2: Look, ultimately, I think we know that crimes out of control.

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Speaker 2: It's out of control in Alice Springs and Tenant Creek,

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Speaker 2: the Labor government have been in power and they've just

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Speaker 2: But why do we get that far? Why do we

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Speaker 2: and it's just a tip of the iceberg. You know

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Speaker 2: that police have been taking the power away from them.

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Speaker 2: I think I heard description are in handcuffs themselves. The

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Speaker 2: and it's really enough's enough, And look.

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Speaker 1: Those words that you use there, Jared. We did speak

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Speaker 1: indeed assaulted as well on Sunday, and I'll talk more

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, I think there's a whole range of things

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Speaker 5: But in Alice Springs, what we've also got to talk.

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Speaker 3: About is the fact that people are quite mobile and

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Speaker 3: The show was probably the best I've ever been to.

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Speaker 3: There was thousands of people there, Katie. But what happens afterwards,

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Speaker 3: and I have to tell you we haven't spoken about

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Speaker 1: But what I'll say about disputed.

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Speaker 3: That dispute away, So I don't want to have a

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Speaker 5: They can dispute all they want, but the police have

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Speaker 3: And I've spoken to a number of police officers and

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Speaker 5: That has to change in our springs.

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Speaker 1: That's a big call.

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Speaker 3: It's a disgrace. So what we have to have is

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Speaker 3: everybody working together. We have to have responsible sale of alcohol.

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Speaker 3: the police are we giving them the tools to be

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Speaker 3: takes it away from us as politicians sitting here, always

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Speaker 5: We're going to do that.

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Speaker 3: We gave the police commission of the power and he

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Speaker 3: We were told it wouldn't work. Point the police were

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Speaker 5: We saw the effect of that.

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Speaker 3: Beyond the Northern Territory in other springs. It's a hub,

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Speaker 1: To start to ask ourselves though, is do we only

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Speaker 1: world enough, you know, really it is simply not.

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Speaker 5: Good and absolutely not good enough.

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Speaker 1: And and you know, to me, if we've got a

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Speaker 1: It is criminal behavior. It's disgusting behavior.

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Speaker 2: And this just shows that labor government have failed. And

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Speaker 2: while the curf is on, there was another brawl another

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Speaker 2: fifty odd people in the same area. Just think of

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Speaker 2: the damage he's doing to the tourism. We spoke about

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Speaker 2: thousands of people coming to the show. Well, next year,

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Speaker 2: because they're not going to come.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I guess I'm part of the discussion as well.

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Speaker 1: Is even you know, taking on board what you said

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Speaker 1: there about the show. We know people come into town

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Speaker 7: It's the issue with the I think the CURFW is

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Speaker 7: a good idea. It worked earlier in the year, but

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Speaker 7: you're going to be smart about how you use it.

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Speaker 7: The curf you should have been in on Friday, not

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Speaker 7: on the horse has bolted. Like if you knew these

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Speaker 6: This should be a national outcry. What is happening, I

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Speaker 6: national outcry about this for people. And when the police

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Speaker 6: find these people, which I'm sure they will, they should

443
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Speaker 6: be charged with attempted murder, if not man's laughter. They

444
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Speaker 6: set out to do very very serious harm to those people,

445
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Speaker 6: and they should be charged with the highest level aggravated assault,

446
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Speaker 6: attempted murder.

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Speaker 2: Whatever given the lot.

448
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Speaker 1: Just check the whole legal.

449
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Speaker 3: Book at the frontline services and it's just wrong.

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Speaker 6: And whether in uniform or not uniform, they have chosen

451
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Speaker 6: a path in life. And you know, I'm sure that

452
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Speaker 6: you know, they'll be strong people and they'll get over

453
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Speaker 6: with good support from family and loved ones. But it's

454
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Speaker 6: just not good enough. The whole bloody place is going

455
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Speaker 6: to rack and ruin. And no, it's if it was

456
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Speaker 6: a gang of white people or Hispanics or something else,

457
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Speaker 6: you know, some other nationality, you know, the whole community

458
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Speaker 6: would be up arms, you know, white people bashing you know,

459
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Speaker 6: you know coppers.

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Speaker 1: But this is nothing really said about this apart from

461
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Speaker 1: the horrific Well, I will say, I know Matt's been

462
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Speaker 1: covering it all on Sky News, so I know we've

463
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Speaker 1: certainly been We have certainly been trying our best to

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Speaker 1: make sure that this I mean that this issue is

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Speaker 1: is not. I think that the discussion then has sort

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Speaker 1: of gone a little bit further as well. Like you said, Matt,

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Speaker 1: the Police Association issuing those you know, the reality, the

468
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Speaker 1: grim reality of the numbers of police officers that are

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Speaker 1: being assaulted or that have been assaulted, and it does

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Speaker 1: sort of re raise that discussion. And that's something that

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Speaker 1: Nathan Finn had spoken to us about earlier in the

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Speaker 1: week about whether there does need to be an increase

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Speaker 1: to the minimum mandatory sentencing when it comes to assaulting

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Speaker 1: a front line worker. And I know in this instance,

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Speaker 1: as we've discussed extensively, that it doesn't seem as though

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Speaker 1: those offenders knew that those that these four police officers.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't Madi, Katie does it.

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Speaker 3: It's really done accessible And the only thing you're going

479
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Speaker 3: to get from me today is I hope that the

480
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Speaker 3: police have got enough evidence they can get them and

481
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Speaker 3: those people are completely held to account and go to jail.

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Speaker 3: And is the right place for people that do that

483
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Speaker 3: sort of a borring behavior. I'm not going to sit

484
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Speaker 3: here and say, oh, you know, those poor people right now.

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Speaker 5: I'm absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't care whether they're white, or they're Aboriginal or

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Speaker 3: anything else.

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Speaker 5: We need to take that out of the conversation.

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Speaker 3: What happened in other springs and assault on four people,

490
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Speaker 3: whether they were police officers or not, it's worse that

491
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Speaker 3: they're police officers. Absolutely unacceptable and there is a place

492
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Speaker 3: for them, and the courts need to do their job

493
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Speaker 3: and hold those people to account.

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Speaker 2: Can I just say one thing you said, the court

495
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Speaker 2: need to do their job. Remember the courts, they only

496
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Speaker 2: interpret the law. The government make the COLP. In March

497
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Speaker 2: last year, we introduced legislation to actually make it tough

498
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Speaker 2: for police officers to get as sold in managem million centers,

499
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Speaker 2: so if you are sold a work out, there's going

500
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Speaker 2: to be a management million centers. The Labor government, Kywarden

501
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Speaker 2: sitting beside me, you voted against that, so she voted against.

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Speaker 5: It, actually have the flexibility so.

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Speaker 2: When there's an opportunity, when there's an opportunity to support

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Speaker 2: the police, and we know that police feel unsupported because

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Speaker 2: the last three surveys said over ninety percent officers feel

506
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Speaker 2: that the Labor government aren't supporting them. The CLP from

507
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Speaker 2: opposition brought in legislation to support the police officers, could

508
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Speaker 2: we listen to what they had to say, and the

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Speaker 2: Labor government, including Kate Wardenson, he had voted it down

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Speaker 2: and legislation finish. These little things are chipping away the

511
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Speaker 2: police powers and making the.

512
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Speaker 5: Feeling something they didn't. They didn't they.

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Speaker 2: Took away the consequences and now these people to get

514
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Speaker 2: away with.

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Speaker 5: Did not take away the consequences something.

516
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Speaker 2: Like this watered down the laws for probably drinking.

517
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Speaker 3: But that's your really good rhetoric and that's what you

518
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Speaker 3: want the truth and to be true place for people.

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Speaker 2: Like the truth. Voted against it.

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Speaker 1: It is it. Look, it's something now that the Police

521
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Speaker 1: Association is definitely re raising. They are re raising the

522
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Speaker 1: question about whether minimum mandatory sentencing, like whether there should

523
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Speaker 1: be a change to the minimum mandatory sentencing when it

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Speaker 1: comes to assaulting a police officers.

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Speaker 3: You pointed out it's highly likely they didn't know that

526
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Speaker 3: they were police officers for starters, right, So would that

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Speaker 3: even fall.

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Speaker 1: Into this situation with the officer that was absolutely we

529
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Speaker 1: should go.

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Speaker 3: To throw the book, you run down, try and run

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Speaker 3: down a pulley, and of course that their duties the

532
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Speaker 3: same as if you try to assault an ambo. And

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Speaker 3: we did strengthen the laws around frontline services so getting assaulted.

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Speaker 3: So it's important what you voted against.

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Speaker 2: So you could say this, we were trying to support

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Speaker 2: the police, You were trying to support the police for

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Speaker 2: giving them an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: To you just trying to So we're going to get

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Speaker 1: anywhere with that part of the discussion. But what another

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Speaker 1: part of this, this whole discussion in Alice Springs that

541
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Speaker 1: continues to be raised as well, is is you know,

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Speaker 1: really taking a closer look into who is receiving federal

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Speaker 1: and Northern Territory government funding and whether they're delivering on

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Speaker 1: services that they are indeed funded to prefer.

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Speaker 6: It they're not delivering on the services because we've got

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Speaker 6: such a we've got a town in distress, you know,

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Speaker 6: a serious distress situation. Now I've spoken about this before.

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Speaker 6: We're on a select committee into youth suicide. We found

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Speaker 6: there was about thirty plus organizations in Alice Springs getting

550
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Speaker 6: money from somewhere for youth services and it was not coordinated.

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Speaker 6: They didn't talk to each other, they didn't even know

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Speaker 6: that when I select committing to youth suicide ten years ago,

553
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Speaker 6: you know, and tent of Creek was the same. So

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Speaker 6: and I'd say it's still happening. You know, everyone puts

555
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Speaker 6: their bibb in to get money, but is it properly

556
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Speaker 6: accounted for? Are their KPIs you know?

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Speaker 1: Well, that was something.

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Speaker 7: There was a productivity commission to board even more recently

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Speaker 7: that found the same thing, I think, and that you

560
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Speaker 7: know in some communities, in some areas there was a

561
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Speaker 7: doubling and tripling of services and in some areas there

562
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Speaker 7: was none.

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Speaker 4: So it's all over the shop when it comes to I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sure I've heard the Alice Springs mayor talk about thirty

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Speaker 2: five fiven organization and he wanted that Dad, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: I heard him on your station.

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Speaker 5: So we have actually had a look at it.

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Speaker 2: There's a failure by the government to actually deal with this, so.

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Speaker 5: We actually have looked at it and in our.

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Speaker 2: Purview with it.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, we did it a few years ago and we

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Speaker 3: have looked at it. And what we have done is

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Speaker 3: streamlined where our money is going. So we do fund

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Speaker 3: things like the gaps youth services. I've been to all

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Speaker 3: of them and they cater for lots and lots of kids.

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Speaker 3: You see kids coming in and kids going out. To

577
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Speaker 3: be honest, it's not the kids that are going to

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Speaker 3: those services. Those kit services are capturing lots of kids.

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Speaker 3: It's the kids that aren't going to that services. The trickiness.

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Speaker 3: We did try the stand up service in the middle

581
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Speaker 3: of our springs and got shut down. We weren't allowed

582
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Speaker 3: that there, but that really did get some of those

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Speaker 3: tougher kids in and off the streets. So there's lots

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Speaker 3: of things that you can do. But I agree the

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Speaker 3: federal government probably does need to look at a bit

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Speaker 3: of where their funding is going as well.

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Speaker 5: But I said this the other day we're in my

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Speaker 5: area as a minister.

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Speaker 3: The funding that I give to those organizations actually is

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Speaker 3: hitting the market. I fund things like men's behavior change

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Speaker 3: programs with Averagine organizations, and they're doing and.

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Speaker 5: Amazing because you get the infant back through them. We

593
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Speaker 5: just don't give it to the Sea.

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Speaker 1: Of c I'll just get mad of moment.

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Speaker 4: What about an organization, sir is just trying to look

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Speaker 4: this up.

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Speaker 7: What about an organization like Tongue in Jierer Council right,

598
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Speaker 7: which which the ABC reported recently has not filed an

599
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Speaker 7: annual report since twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 5: I think that's been fixed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know it's.

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Speaker 7: Why has it continued to get funding over those six

603
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Speaker 7: years if it hasn't filed an annual report.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can only say, well that that's to do

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Speaker 3: with ORIC, right, So ORIC is the national and that's

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Speaker 3: a federal that's a federally shouldn't let me finish. I

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Speaker 3: fund them for things like Men's behavior change, And I've

608
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Speaker 3: actually just doubled my funding to them because they do

609
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Speaker 3: an amazing job and they needed more.

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Speaker 1: So despite not filing an annual report, you've doubled it.

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Speaker 3: They have fund that. I believe that they've done that now,

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Speaker 3: and that is a federal thing.

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Speaker 5: But where we are getting our bangs.

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Speaker 1: Pretty big like so had they filed it before.

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Speaker 3: Found They've also doubled my fund into Catholic Care because

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Speaker 3: I need more men going through men's behavior change and

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Speaker 3: get with.

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Speaker 4: The points of there's that way I understand.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'd want to triple check that they had

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Speaker 7: all of their annual reports since twenty eighteen. If I

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Speaker 7: was going to give, if I was going to double

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Speaker 7: their funding for something, would you not well.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you actually stand there and go the

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Speaker 3: whole of the organization. I know the arm of Tanangier

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Speaker 3: that I deal with. It deals and gives and does

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Speaker 3: things like the Women's you know, the Women's Safety Council,

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Speaker 3: all of those that are doing great work in the

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Speaker 3: god It was also I'm really interested in making sure.

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Speaker 5: That they get the right funding.

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Speaker 7: It was also you don't even know it was also

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Speaker 7: reported at that time case they had a DV perpetrator

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Speaker 7: on their board.

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Speaker 5: Is that I've called very loudly for that to change.

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Speaker 4: But has it changed.

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Speaker 5: I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: So you've doubled the funding even though that to the.

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Speaker 5: Men's behavior Change program, absolutely I have.

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Speaker 4: Well wouldn't.

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Speaker 7: The first thing saying is if you want this funding doubled, no,

640
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Speaker 7: you've got to show some leadership and make sure that

641
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Speaker 7: this person is not in that position publicly for.

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Speaker 3: Their leadership to not happen the same way as I've

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Speaker 3: done with and they should not have them on the board.

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Speaker 1: But then ultimately rewarded them.

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Speaker 5: I have not rewarded them. What I've done. I've increased

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Speaker 5: the program.

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Speaker 3: So what you're doing is just saying no, it's not

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Speaker 3: a reward, it's actually getting an outcome for something that

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Speaker 3: we really badly need in our community. We need more

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Speaker 3: men going through men's behavior change program They have got

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Speaker 3: an outstanding one that gets results, and I'm going to

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Speaker 3: fund them, but I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Going to make the argument is the argument is that

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Speaker 1: you know, then you've got a situation where you know

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Speaker 1: what is like, what's happening parallel to that you have

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Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, I get that. I get that, you

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Speaker 1: can walk into gum. At the same time, however, there

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Speaker 1: will be a lot of people in the community that

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Speaker 1: are sort of scratching their heads, going, well, hang on

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Speaker 1: a sick you know, you've got an organization, you know,

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Speaker 1: so I think this.

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Speaker 5: Has been flagged with oric.

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Speaker 3: We've taken those steps to say, you know, this is

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Speaker 3: an averagin organization that needs to have have robust governance.

665
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Speaker 3: Yes they do, but we also at the same time

666
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Speaker 3: need services delivered and in my space and I can

667
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: only talk for myself in my space with those really

668
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: good program.

669
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Speaker 5: And we're using that and modeling others on that. We're

670
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Speaker 5: opening a new one.

671
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: And Catherine based off that those men's behavior change programs

672
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: are so needed, So we can't stand in here and

673
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: talk about the spike and DV that's fine, and then

674
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Speaker 3: accuse me of doing nothing when I'm about.

675
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 6: But see, that's I don't have an issue with what

676
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 6: you're saying, Kate.

677
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: You have no excuse certain and you want these programs

678
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 3: decisions in my job.

679
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 6: You have to make. You want these programs to succeed,

680
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 6: and I have lots of people do. However, the programs

681
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 6: are part of an organization that is flawed. And I'm

682
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 6: not saying the programs are flawed. Organization is flawed. It's

683
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 6: not doesn't have good governance, it's not compliant with the

684
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 6: relevant legislation, and nothing is being done. It's like, well,

685
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 6: I've got to fund my programs, Syce, We've got to

686
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 6: get these men sorted out. I agree, but you can't

687
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 6: ignore the fact that the organization is not adhering to

688
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 6: good governance. And yet this perpetrator, alleged perpetrator, is still

689
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 6: on the board. And I think I read somewhere that

690
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 6: the Allow Springs Town Council has torn up their agreement.

691
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: With this mob.

692
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 6: So clearly there are so the management authorization someone needs.

693
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 6: If it's the federal government, then the empty governman is

694
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 6: to get on the phone to the relevant minister and

695
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 6: say well, the funding has to cease.

696
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Please direct the.

697
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 6: Funding to this organization that's going to take over and

698
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 6: sort it all.

699
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Speaker 1: And I guess one point that I'd like to just

700
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: very quickly ask is would other organizations be in a

701
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: situation where they could still apply for funding if they

702
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: hadn't followed through with, you know, with those reporting mechanisms.

703
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: I think I'm in their bigger questions, Katie, for the

704
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: whole of the system, and we have looked at them.

705
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: But I'm all I'm saying today is in my role,

706
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: I need programs. You know, I've come on here and

707
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: we've been kicked from left and right about you know,

708
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: programs that don't work. Why are you doing that? Why

709
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: aren't you doing that?

710
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 5: I'm investing. Shut up, Jared, honestly like a little tiny root.

711
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: Okay, we might take a very quick break. You are

712
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's keep the language a little bit Nicerer.

713
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: We are going to take a very quick break. You

714
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: are listening to Mix ONEOW fort nine. Then we're going

715
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: to take a real change of pace. In fact, we're

716
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: going to talk about some of these announcements that have

717
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: been made throughout the week. You're listening to Mix one

718
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: O four nine's three sixty. Well, if you have just

719
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: joined us, we've all had a little quiet breath in

720
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: the ad break to get us back through. For the

721
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Speaker 1: rest of me.

722
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 5: Got put in the time out corner, but not Matt.

723
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 6: And I very busy the time again.

724
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: Everyone just shake it out a bit, you know, we'll

725
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: have a deep breath and get ready to talk about

726
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: some of the election promises that are being made. And

727
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: earlier this week, well the opposition came out and announced

728
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: it they're going to expand, well amongst a few different things,

729
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: but expand hunting in the Northern Territory, saying that it's

730
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: the territories unique lifestyle. And you know you're going to

731
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: basically increase the existing size of Harrison Dam Hunting Reserve

732
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: as well as work with stakeholders to identify a new

733
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: site for a new hunting reserve. So that's one of

734
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: the announcements. We also know that there's been election commitments

735
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Speaker 1: made in Palmerston. We might talk hunting first.

736
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: Let me start with that I'm a keen hunter straight away. Look,

737
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: this is going to be great for territories. We all

738
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: know that the lifestyle is one of the reasons why

739
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: lots of people live up here. Hunting is out there,

740
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 2: and it's going to make you more room. It's going

741
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: to be safer. We're going to make sure that holding

742
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: your firearms license is easier to get renewed and some

743
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: AMMO stuff for that, because that's actually made a difference.

744
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: Or these tourists have come up to do some of

745
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: the concept just happened. They haven't turned up because they

746
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: haven't been buy the AMMO. And there's again the labor

747
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: government failed in your can try and fix it. It

748
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: was identified a problem and just let it go.

749
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 6: You've hit an interesting point there, Jared, because I've had

750
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 6: a couple of people approach me in regards to changing

751
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 6: regulations by police that haven't come out for any consultation.

752
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 6: And it's around AMMO and how much you buy and

753
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 6: roll all that sort of stuff. So if there are

754
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 6: going to be changes to that kind of thing, then

755
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 6: it needs to be broadcast, like you know, to the

756
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 6: Firearms Council. They're one of the people who get very concerned.

757
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 6: There's a big competition of clay target competition coming up

758
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 6: coming up very soon. And I apologize to Jed because

759
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 6: I didn't malign the CALP by saying they hadn't supported

760
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 6: me in the past when I spoke about increasing hunting reserves.

761
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 6: But I went into bat I think about five or

762
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 6: six years ago now because how it's being shoalbey Land

763
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 6: was Sagoon parison. They're the only three and they Mendora

764
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 6: and they are very, very busy, and i'd say full

765
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 6: And one of the reasons was one because we need

766
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 6: more reserves, but two a safety issue when you've got

767
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 6: twenty two hundred people out there all trying to get

768
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 6: goose or duck or whatever.

769
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 5: And it is very better these days.

770
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 6: In the past days there was a little bit of

771
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 6: recklessness going on and glitter and all that sort of stuff,

772
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 6: which is still an issue. We've got to keep an

773
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 6: eye on that.

774
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: People are better behave.

775
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they are better behaved, and the police helped

776
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 6: and range has helped as well. But I think it's

777
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 6: a good idea. I know there's a lot of support

778
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 6: for it. I know there were some wowsers out there

779
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 6: that he didn't want to talk about hunting and all

780
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 6: that sort of stuff. But it's a good initiative and

781
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 6: it will stimulate a lot of it.

782
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: Just how many registered firearm holders do we have in

783
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: the territory. Seventeen hundred.

784
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 5: Actually have more guns in the territory though than anywhere

785
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 5: else in Australia capital capita. But there are people that

786
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 5: have quite.

787
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: A number of guns and they're sporting shooters, but on

788
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: the hunting reserve. Like I became the minister in December,

789
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: I've got a very robust relationship with Field and Gayment

790
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: Bart and in fact next week him and Nigel Scully

791
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: and I'm meeting with them because finding land tenure and

792
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: the different land tenures. Most people in Church would understand

793
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: there's some Aboriginal land, there's Crown land. There's a lot

794
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 3: of different land tenures that they need to work through

795
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 3: to find that additional hunting reserve.

796
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 5: We've talked about whether they could.

797
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: Expand those and I've got department people coming in next

798
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 3: week and we're going to put all the maps on

799
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: the table and identify that.

800
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 5: Because we've previously said we would look at it.

801
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: I don't think we'd ever said that we would give,

802
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: you know, find it because I think there are those

803
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 3: land tenure issues. It's a bit easier to say you'll

804
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: just do it than to just do that. But Nigel

805
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: Scullion is flying in for a meeting with me. I've

806
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: been out the clay shooting this year. In fact, I

807
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: won a competition.

808
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: This year.

809
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 3: Actually shoot and beat Jared's square.

810
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: I was going to say, you don't hear politicians say

811
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: very nice things about each other sometimes, but Jared Maley

812
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: actually said to me yesterday that you had one a

813
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: female competition. He said something nice about you behind your back.

814
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: So Scullion actually took some time and taught me to shoot,

815
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: you can shoot, and gave me some pointers and I

816
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: went out for I think that was my second year

817
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: of the poly chute and won.

818
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 5: It, much to my surprise as anybody else.

819
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: You've got a competitive person.

820
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think my eyesight was that good. Actually

821
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 5: I did wear my glasses on the day. But I

822
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 5: mean I've been out there.

823
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: They do a really good job, and there is a

824
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: group of territories that love their hunting. I totally acknowledge

825
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: that that's not me, but I see it and I

826
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: acknowledge them.

827
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 5: And so we are working and I'll have that.

828
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: Man next.

829
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 7: A core flute up out there at the shooting range

830
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 7: of everyone who supports them. Right, So there's like liberal

831
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 7: Democrats and the COLP and there's one of Kate Warden.

832
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 4: But Kate, it's looking really sick, and.

833
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 5: I got a new one.

834
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: It was all tattered.

835
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 5: Bart came in and got that core flute from me.

836
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: But what he did is he picked it up and

837
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: he put it in his trolley and then he walked out.

838
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 5: And I had a phone call.

839
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 3: About an hour later, sorry Barton, airing your dirty laundry

840
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 3: from someone saying there's a gentleman that just left with

841
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 3: a picture of you in his trolley and he hasn't

842
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: paid for his glog.

843
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: I made that call Bart and said bart could you

844
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 5: come back and pay for the approaches made and stuff

845
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 5: putting my face all over and that's really bad and

846
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 5: I'm going to give it to bart On the weekend alright.

847
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: Wasn't the only election promise made throughout this week. We

848
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: know that the Chief Minister took to social media to

849
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: an outsplans for Palmerston if re elected. She said that

850
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: the government's going to invest ten million dollars to deliver

851
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: a package of community infrastructure projects, including two point five

852
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: mil for Driver Community Hall, two million for Zicoli, a

853
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: million for Swell, seven hundred and fifty for greening and

854
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: other things. But look, my big question is is any

855
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: of that money going to poor old Molden School over

856
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: sound like that cannot at this point in time use

857
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: that oval. It's affecting the rugby union team, it's affecting

858
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: the rugby league team, their junior sevens competition, school in

859
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: the air that tried. It's affecting the students at the

860
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: school because they're actually not able to use it because

861
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: the oval was let get to a point where it

862
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: was so dry that people then let off fireworks and

863
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: it lit up. You know, we talk a lot about

864
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: engaging young people. Well, the best way to engage young people,

865
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: if you ask me, is get them into sport. And

866
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 1: now you've got a situation where some of them aren't

867
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: actually going to be able to get to training.

868
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 6: I don't know why they didn't include mold And I

869
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 6: mean clearly it's Port Berlin.

870
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 5: Will you know?

871
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 6: I think I think that I.

872
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: Think that she's even done. How is that.

873
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: Job they're working giving even a bit of pressure? I

874
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: reckon that's what's happening.

875
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: Look, they I.

876
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 6: Mean they give I mean even law is giving Barry

877
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 6: cold run for his money when it comes to Port Maryling.

878
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 6: People can remember back that far. I mean, parts has

879
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 6: done very well out of both sides of politics. Counsel, Well, yeah,

880
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 6: as long as they keep their eyes off Holts, because

881
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 6: I'll just put it out there, I'm a gun owner as.

882
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: Well as holy are. We're all responsible in here. That

883
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: were you looking like you wanted to say something, Well, I.

884
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Speaker 7: Was going to say, it's not just mold and oble

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Speaker 7: because I know that my daughter and her teammates train

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Speaker 7: a driver. Oh yeah, and it's so it's been and

887
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Speaker 7: it just hasn't been watered properly. And so they go

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Speaker 7: to training. They got a footy training there on a Thursday,

889
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Speaker 7: and they come home with bloody Gray's knees and elbows

890
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Speaker 7: and whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's the school, does the school responsible for the look

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Speaker 1: in some instances from what we're told, it's like it's

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Speaker 1: actually a bit of a bureaucratic debarcle. It seems like

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Speaker 1: in the situation out at Driver where the irrigation system

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Speaker 1: is broken, I don't know what the goal is there, Katie.

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Speaker 1: It's a school, so it's education, but it's also I

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Speaker 1: believe there was an issue with the boors. So look,

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Speaker 1: you know they're not being fixed, yes, but look how

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Speaker 1: quickly is it being fixed, because by the sounds of it,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to be ready to go for this season,

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Speaker 1: which I just think is how like how when we're

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Speaker 1: making these big announcements, are we then in a situation

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Speaker 1: where we can't even water a bloody over.

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Speaker 3: I think, Okatie that it's coming back to me around

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Speaker 3: that that one. As we've talked a lot about about spaces,

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Speaker 3: I think, well, from one, I think.

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Speaker 5: We need to build new ovals.

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Speaker 3: That's one of the things we need to do because

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Speaker 3: we've seen this massive expansion across the community.

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Speaker 5: That's one of the things I'd like to see more of.

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Speaker 5: But in terms of that board.

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Speaker 3: They're waiting for the parts to be provided for it,

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Speaker 3: and that that takes that you a tyranny of distance

914
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Speaker 3: that we've all had part shouldn't take that.

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Speaker 6: There is so many bores in the in the rules, not.

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Speaker 3: The education minister, but I do know that that you know,

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Speaker 3: some schools have over and others are actually owned by

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Speaker 3: the council, and then some are owned by NTG Shoe.

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Speaker 1: Either way, it's an embarrassment that needs to be mixed

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Speaker 1: as need to be and green they absolutely do. Now,

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Speaker 1: while we're speaking of ovals, people are pierced as well

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Speaker 1: about the Sanders and Oval obviously being in a situation

923
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Speaker 1: where there's burnout's done on.

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Speaker 5: That oval, so we're putting up. I've got the funding

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Speaker 5: for that.

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Speaker 1: When are they getting put in?

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Speaker 3: My understanding is that they're doing some measuring up at

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Speaker 3: the moment to know exactly how many the money's been

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Speaker 3: made available, and so it's just it's going ahead.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking to.

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Speaker 1: Well, hang on before we get there. Why why are

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Speaker 1: we in a situation as well though, where Richardson Parks

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Speaker 1: still not being used. Apparently it's not. It's still closed off.

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Speaker 5: They're still doing some works on the oval.

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Speaker 3: How long does it take we have to create an oval, Kadie,

936
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Speaker 3: You have to actually build it and do it properly.

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Speaker 1: Richardson like that area.

938
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Speaker 3: Now they've already done a whole heap of works back there.

939
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Speaker 3: Then they've got another at the oval to be.

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Speaker 5: They're doing that now. I asked questions about it yesterday.

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Speaker 5: It'll be.

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Speaker 3: It will be open a bit. I have no timeline

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Speaker 3: on that, but they're actually building the oval.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to a quick break because I still

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Speaker 1: want to talk about Joe Biden having a big boys

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Speaker 1: press conference that's coming your way in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty.

948
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Speaker 1: It is the week that was well, the most listened

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Speaker 1: to our in territory radio, but maybe not the most

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Speaker 1: listened to thing over the course of or over the

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Speaker 1: whole world. Right now. I think everyone's keeping an eye

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Speaker 1: on Joe Biden. So old sleepy Joe is having his

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Speaker 1: first big boy conference press conference for the year. Matt Cunningham,

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Speaker 1: after accidentally calling Vladimir and Zelenski.

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Speaker 4: This morning, there's two people you don't want to get mixed.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: He's called. He's vice president vice President Trump apparently.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what, if you're his media advisor, tummy

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Speaker 1: would just be doing backflips wondering what he's going to

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Speaker 1: say next and what he's going to do.

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Speaker 6: Okatie, I can't understand or accept than in that whole

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Speaker 6: big country they can't find someone ten years younger for

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Speaker 6: the Democrats, and ten years younger and sane, maybe twenty

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Speaker 6: for the Republicans. And I'm not any know, there's lots

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Speaker 6: of good people who are elderly in sixty seventies. He's

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Speaker 6: in political power or political jobs all around the world

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Speaker 6: and doing quite well, quite fine. But clearly this man

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Speaker 6: is not in my personal view and observations I've seen

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Speaker 6: on TV. And also mister Trump. Neither of them are

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Speaker 6: fit to hold the office for different reasons. And what

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Speaker 6: I'm concerned about is is mister Biden's family watching him.

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Speaker 6: You know, surely his wife should realize he's done a

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Speaker 6: good job. He's done, he's done a given I'm sure

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Speaker 6: he's a very decent man. He's he's to be a

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Speaker 6: decent man. Okay, his son has been a bit of

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Speaker 6: a rat bag, but you know that's what happens in

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Speaker 6: big families so.

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Speaker 5: And small ones.

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Speaker 6: But you know, so I just can't believe that his

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Speaker 6: wife is letting him do this. You know, she s

981
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Speaker 6: more what's the word common sense, more intelligenus to say,

982
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Speaker 6: the man's a great man. He'll start the statesman all

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Speaker 6: around the world, and he'll start run.

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Speaker 1: The risk on the risk of going out.

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Speaker 6: Yo's what do you say to years younger, You, well, look.

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Speaker 5: We need some energy.

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Speaker 1: We're going to have to run for the morning. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: we never run out of things to talk about in

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Speaker 1: this studio, that is for sure. Jered Malee from the CLP,

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Speaker 1: thank you for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Get in your big shout out. There's a big pol

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Speaker 2: Cross tournament tonight, a fresh path under lights, normal versus

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Speaker 2: rest of Australia.

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Speaker 1: Great, Are were that good that we just take on

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Speaker 1: the rest of Astralia?

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Speaker 2: Selely good start much so I'm not from a bit worried.

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Speaker 6: Tonight, doesn't it?

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Speaker 2: Tonight seven o'clock is a junior game. Eight o'clock is

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Speaker 2: the senior game.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, good lights.

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Speaker 2: There's going to be a band, so if you're in

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Speaker 2: the rural area and you want to pop one out,

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Speaker 2: get amongst it. Amongst it.

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Speaker 1: Cap Horton for the Labor Party. Thank you as always

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Speaker 1: for your time this morning.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Kaddie and happy Nay Doc week. We didn't

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Speaker 5: do that today, but.

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Speaker 3: There's been some amazing events and it was good to

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Speaker 3: spend some time, you say, at the senior's lunch and

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Speaker 3: see all those old people and see what week is

1011
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Speaker 3: really about, separating aboriginal and straight on culture.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, good stuff. Thank you. Matt Cunningham from Sky News,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and Kezier Pure independent. Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I'm off home to tiny up and clean my guns.

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Speaker 6: With the more hunting reserves that are coming up. Other

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Speaker 6: people who look it over.

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Speaker 5: My way from are going hunting.

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Speaker 1: I'm going hunting, Laurah. On that note, thank you all

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Speaker 1: very much for your time. You are listening to Mix

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Speaker 1: one O four ninees three sixty