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Speaker 1: We have certainly had concerns raised with us about issues

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Speaker 1: having lived in the area for just eighteen months. Local

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Speaker 1: She's pretty worried about leaving her home to go to

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Kylie.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Really good? Thank you so much for your time, Kylie.

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Speaker 2: What's been what's them?

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Speaker 4: I'm not currently in a wheelchair. I use that at times,

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Speaker 3: Good on you.

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Speaker 1: I know you're a bloody legend and I know it

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Speaker 1: would still be difficult though, and make it tough. I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming when you think about some of what's going on

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Speaker 3: You leave your house.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely it's a tough one because it's other local residents

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Speaker 4: and myself, I live directly opposite the shops too scared

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Speaker 1: Now, goodness, may can you tell me what has been

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Speaker 2: Okay, So.

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Speaker 4: In the last six months, there's been a lot of

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Speaker 4: Boys came up and the Parmo Boys and there were

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Speaker 4: my god, when was this about two weeks ago?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that must have been pretty frightening stuff.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: And the complex I live in is directly opposite the

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Speaker 4: a lot of people in wheelchairs, a lot of people

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Speaker 4: the same as me. I try and walk as much

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Speaker 4: I'm self funded. And yeah, it is quite frightening.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine how scary that would be some days. Kylie.

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Speaker 1: If you you know you're you're doing amazingly the fact

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's right. I look behind myself all the time,

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Speaker 4: I'm I've been waiting to be rolled, to be honest,

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Speaker 4: I've been waiting for someone just to come and that

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Speaker 4: I hired as much as I can in my walking frame.

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Speaker 4: But one of the things I wanted to talk to you,

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Speaker 4: obviously about is there's a lot of theft yep, and

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Speaker 4: the security can do nothing about it, absolutely nothing about it.

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Speaker 1: So what do you mean people are people are going

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Speaker 4: Shop yep, yeah, the bottle shop or Woolworth, so just

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Speaker 1: We hear that so often, Kylie, Hey, like I hear

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: The other issue is, you know, around here a lot

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Speaker 2: All that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 4: The shopkeepers I'm concerned about because it is a great complex.

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Speaker 4: It's got everything I need in it. The headdress of

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Speaker 3: Able to get into the shops.

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Speaker 4: Well, I've been in very close contact with brian O Gallagher.

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Speaker 2: To deter this behavior.

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Speaker 2: But you know they did have a caravan, you know, one.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it sounds like it's it sounds like

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Speaker 4: There's a lady that lives upstairs with me. She's also

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Speaker 4: do I. That is you know where I am right now.

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Speaker 4: It's not my choice, but this is what's happened. And look,

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Speaker 2: The units that themselves are beautiful, They are really lovely.

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Speaker 4: The Body corporate does the best it can. However, the

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Speaker 2: It's also the petrol station across the road.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a bloody nightmare.

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Speaker 4: It's going to cost a lot of money even with insurance.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, Colie, this is its Honestly, you shouldn't

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Speaker 3: We live in bloody Darwin, for God's.

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Speaker 2: Sake, you know, the greatest place on there.

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Speaker 1: Same here, And that is what is upsetting everybody so

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Speaker 3: We aren't here because we're forced to live here.

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Speaker 1: We love this place, we want to see succeed in

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Speaker 4: I would just like, as Bruno Galladus has said, just

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Speaker 2: Up the private security with dogs.

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Speaker 2: Yeap, and yeah, that's basically what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kylie, I'm going to try and get Brian on

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Speaker 1: So I really appreciate you getting in contact with me

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Speaker 4: Oh look, I just need to get it out there,

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Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful home.

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Speaker 4: Yep, he has electronic gates on his house and here

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and did it to one of his neighbors as well.

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Speaker 2: And these are kids with ankle bracelets on.

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Speaker 1: it's just not good enough. We you know, we cannot

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Speaker 2: No, we can't.

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Speaker 4: And he didn' choose to live in Korama. This is

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Speaker 4: not my chosen area to live in, but my circumstances

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Speaker 4: I've got a family friend that's lived here for forty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's not acceptable.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I've got friends that live there too, Kylie,

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Speaker 1: and I just think it's no one should have to

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Speaker 4: It makes me really really sad that people are leaving

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Speaker 4: I grew up in Darwen, then went back to Adelaide's

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Speaker 4: I have no intention of leaving Darwin. And this is

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Speaker 4: why I'm speaking out though, is because it's the crime

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Speaker 4: and the antisocial behavior that it's not just Karama.

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Speaker 2: It's everywhere, you know.

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Speaker 4: But where my focus on at the moment is it's

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, you deserve to feel I.

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Speaker 2: Do need to say this.

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Speaker 4: The Antique government are doing absolutely nothing about crime. They

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Speaker 1: You're not the only one, Kylie, that is for sure.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you speaking to me this morning. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for getting in contact, and yeah, please keep

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Speaker 1: in contact. Let us know how things are going. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna try and get Brian on the show this week.

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Speaker 2: I got to be fantastic.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure when he's got time he will join you

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Speaker 4: because I'm telling you right now he's doing the best

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Speaker 4: for the community and the greatest bloke I've bet you know, good, Honie.

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Speaker 1: No, I appreciate you having a chat with us, Kylie.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to have to run off because we've got

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Speaker 1: to get to the national news. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: your time today. Look to yourself, you too. Thank you