Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Fromes. This is the Flex
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Speaker 2: Sweety Mine, we are back. Everything is fat time. I
Speaker 2: went to the dentist, and my dentists little and she
Speaker 2: was like, Babes, you gotta stop with the acidic drinks.
Speaker 2: Like everyone falls into this trap. We drink too much acidity.
Speaker 2: Lemon water, bad soda water, sparkling water, bad soft drinks,
Speaker 2: bad coffee, bad, I said, babes. Citrus drinks, orange juice,
Speaker 2: all that bad, I said, Babes. For me, life is
Speaker 2: made so sweet knowing I can drink sugar. I don't
Speaker 2: really want like a little dessert that badly, but every
Speaker 2: day I need to have a little something sweet in
Speaker 2: liquid form.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2: So I have to go back to get my tooth
Speaker 2: gems redone, and I'm freaking out that.
Speaker 1: They're going to be rotted.
Speaker 2: Well, no, like my teeth are fine, but she was
Speaker 2: just kind of like, your teeth are so good, you
Speaker 2: need to like make them extra good and like don't
Speaker 2: have the acid. And I was like, yeah, I'll try.
Speaker 2: It was like a good two weeks and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, babe. All I have for me right
Speaker 2: now is like my liquid consumption. But I will say
Speaker 2: we are discussing whether or not living in a commune
Speaker 2: or something we do with friends. I'm talking by a
Speaker 2: plot of land, build separate houses, share a rumpus room.
Speaker 2: Does it sound like a fun time? And also breakups
Speaker 2: in the modern times, you see before you catch someone
Speaker 2: on the phone, you catch them on a little social
Speaker 2: media up but.
Speaker 1: Little lipstick on the collar. Yeah yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Fitbits, smart watchers, beware, here we go.
Speaker 1: You're listening to flex and rooms on kator now. Up
Speaker 1: until I didn't ancestry DNA test about eight years ago.
Speaker 1: Oh you're over you for a new one. No, you
Speaker 1: know what. You do it once and they slowly make
Speaker 1: it better and better. Oh cool, they give you updates
Speaker 1: and be like you get a notivation like boom, We've
Speaker 1: got like more specific understanding of what region in this
Speaker 1: country you're from. Amazing, So I don't know where anyway,
Speaker 1: Before that period, I didn't really know what was happening
Speaker 1: with the past people, right, but I figured who were
Speaker 1: the past people? All the people before me? Oh the
Speaker 1: other rooms yeah, which, like I'm still wrap my head
Speaker 1: around the fact that we're here. Because the first ever people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what like, were than for your service and
Speaker 2: everyone thanks.
Speaker 1: This is a massive daisy chain. None of you died
Speaker 1: before we were born.
Speaker 2: Also before the sea levels rose and we could just
Speaker 2: walk between continents. Imagine if your ancestors didn't stay where
Speaker 2: they were before the sea levels rose back up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that what happened? Yeah, my god, there's so
Speaker 1: much to learn and take in.
Speaker 2: You know about Christopher Columbus anyway, top.
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, I figured out through my ancestry DNA that
Speaker 1: I'm thirty three percent Scottish. Thank you, amongst other things.
Speaker 1: This is all four percent yeah, okay, anyway, this means
Speaker 1: I have a renewed interest in all things Scottish. The
Speaker 1: other day, you talk to me about that ring with
Speaker 1: the love heart.
Speaker 2: What's that clatter like claudeur it's like spelt with d
Speaker 2: la double dagh.
Speaker 1: You should know. Well, I'm learning. And it's that ring
Speaker 1: where there's two hands holding a heart and the heart
Speaker 1: has a crown anyway.
Speaker 2: And you depending which way that heart shaped crown, that
Speaker 2: heart with crown faces, it determines or signals whether you're
Speaker 2: single or taken.
Speaker 1: I mean, may I say they ate with that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: got me thinking about myths, and the biggest myth when
Speaker 1: it comes to that area of the world, I would say,
Speaker 1: is a Locknest Monster. We've all heard of the Locknest Monster,
Speaker 1: perhaps that kept some of us awake at night as
Speaker 1: small children. How would you describe it for those who
Speaker 1: haven't heard. Okay, so Locknest Monster is a mythical like
Speaker 1: quote unquote mythical creature to be found in the Lockness
Speaker 1: River thing in Scotland. And this monster is like a
Speaker 1: massive water snake and there's images of it when photos
Speaker 1: came out as like a black and white image of
Speaker 1: the Locknest Monster and it's like, first hump is out
Speaker 1: of the water. It's like a sweevely snake that's half
Speaker 1: out of the water. Kind of like, yeah, how you
Speaker 1: imagine a mythical creature that's a snake in the water
Speaker 1: would look like recently there was a high tech search
Speaker 1: snake assuming snake. Yeah, but they usually they usually swim
Speaker 1: across the top like inner side to side motion. But
Speaker 1: this is going up and up and down, up and down. Incredible.
Speaker 1: There was a high tech search at Lockness when Nexty
Speaker 1: that is her nickname, was potentially found like a bit
Speaker 1: more evidence, and it was about like there's a new
Speaker 1: sound down there. But as we know with sounds when
Speaker 1: we saw this sub submarine submersible tragedy, that things can
Speaker 1: be sound, things can be heard when they're not really
Speaker 1: there anyway, Sinceuly, what happened is people from all across
Speaker 1: the world who are obsessed with Locknest Monster came together recently, recently,
Speaker 1: like a like a month or so ago to try
Speaker 1: and like find out what's happening. Like, I love that
Speaker 1: it broad in a check in. It brought all of
Speaker 1: these people together, and I like how this mystery that
Speaker 1: has captivated a world of generations brings people all together.
Speaker 2: I like that Specifically, I believe that all mythological creatures
Speaker 2: are real. If we exist in time with dinosaurs, then
Speaker 2: surely dragons could exist. It doesn't it's not that much
Speaker 2: of a stretch of the imagination. If those what do
Speaker 2: you call those sea animals with the horns, nah, like mermaids, No, nah, somethings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I know what you mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if normals can exist, so a sea animal with
Speaker 2: a huge horn then can exist. We already have the
Speaker 2: horses on land, just add a little bit extra. Also,
Speaker 2: bulls and deers are technically referred to as mythological creatures,
Speaker 2: but we know they're real because we kicky with them
Speaker 2: every day. So by that logic, and yes we will
Speaker 2: use that logic, there's a room for all of it
Speaker 2: to exist.
Speaker 1: Fairies as well. I saw a story the other day
Speaker 1: about a commune in New Zealand where I think five
Speaker 1: mates all put in to buy a block of land
Speaker 1: and then they've then built four houses that are kind
Speaker 1: of like townhouses modern terraces because it was cheaper and
Speaker 1: that's one way that they could afford to get into
Speaker 1: the housing market. This house is chic. It's chic.
Speaker 2: It's giving view modern mid centuary, clean lines, exposed beings,
Speaker 2: different woods, pristine.
Speaker 1: It's gorgeous. And what they've done is they also have
Speaker 1: like a rumpus room that they can all share. It's
Speaker 1: giving Tim Gerner Hotel vibes. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I do know what you're saying. So this is Was
Speaker 2: this a particular group of friends that all still had
Speaker 2: to invent more than a million dollars?
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, this is the one.
Speaker 2: So yes, because I remember, I remember when I initially
Speaker 2: came across this story I was like, oh, like a
Speaker 2: cost saving activity. Really cute friends getting to get get well,
Speaker 2: friends getting together and pulling their money to build a
Speaker 2: house or share. Come to find out, it's four townhouses
Speaker 2: squished together and they all as a couple invested a
Speaker 2: million dollars each. So that's five million dollars, which people
Speaker 2: said is still cheaper than what they could have made
Speaker 2: on their own. I don't know, don't live in New Zealand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is curious, isn't it. It got me thinking
Speaker 1: about communes more gen relay and thinking like, in an
Speaker 1: ideal world, how close I guess how close you want
Speaker 1: to live to your relatives is kind of like relative
Speaker 1: to whether or not you actually like them. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'll never forget when my grandparents died, they had a
Speaker 1: house that was kind of like it wasn't rundown, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't like that nice, and it was on like
Speaker 1: quite a big block of land, and my parents were
Speaker 1: like seriously considering selling their house to like make a
Speaker 1: commune with all of my cousins, and they wanted us
Speaker 1: to live on the thing as well. And I was thinking,
Speaker 1: like the or at the time, I was like absolutely not,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to be anywhere in my parents.
Speaker 1: But now that I'm getting older, I'm seeing the vision
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, like, do you reckon? Like I'm thinking
Speaker 1: with this housing crisis, is there any way that we're
Speaker 1: going to go down the route of like bringing back
Speaker 1: in like families all living together? But in Western culture families.
Speaker 2: It's still an expensive practice though it still requires the
Speaker 2: capital that a lot of people don't have to get
Speaker 2: it started in order to buy a block of land
Speaker 2: in Sydney. Oh yeah, no, no, a block of land
Speaker 2: in Melbourne and then build on that land. How long
Speaker 2: will that take? And then make a space that's functional
Speaker 2: for everyone. I feel like the concept is something that
Speaker 2: could be achieved or conceptualized in a sharehouse environment to really,
Speaker 2: you know, share responsibilities and to live actually together, not
Speaker 2: just next to each other. Right, But I feel like
Speaker 2: this elusive commune concept is harder than it looks because
Speaker 2: none of us not how to fend for ourselves.
Speaker 1: I know it sounds really fun, though, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: Until it's like all the mums are cleaning up after everyone.
Speaker 2: What is the worst way to be broken up with
Speaker 2: or to at least find out you're being cheated?
Speaker 1: On.
Speaker 2: We all know the digital age is changing the way
Speaker 2: that we date, for better and for worse. But I
Speaker 2: was reading this story in Wired dot com and the
Speaker 2: articles about all the ways that like virtual stuff is
Speaker 2: changing when people like have intimate relations. But this one
Speaker 2: was called the fitbit breakup, and I was like, what
Speaker 2: does this mean anyway? Strap in because it.
Speaker 1: Is tech time, tech time, text time, It's tech time
Speaker 1: with flexiproomes on. Cater puts it to the next level.
Speaker 1: The Fitbit Breakup.
Speaker 2: Ted an anonymous name, and I laughed all the time together.
Speaker 2: We laughed when I lay on top of him and
Speaker 2: made our bodies touch as much as possible.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, our noses.
Speaker 2: Our lips, our kneecaps, our palms, our big toes. We
Speaker 2: laughed when we walked from Tribeca to the Upper East
Speaker 2: Side to log steps on his fitbit. After three days
Speaker 2: of eating tearum sew in bed only to find out
Speaker 2: he wasn't wearing his fitbit.
Speaker 1: For Christmas.
Speaker 2: Ted's mum had given her kids fitbits and connected scales
Speaker 2: for Christmas. Ted's mom had given her kids fitbits and
Speaker 2: connected scales. I'd set Ted's scale up for us. He
Speaker 2: could step on it and given his weight about one
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five pounds, it would identify him and
Speaker 2: send his data to his fitbit profile. And when I
Speaker 2: stepped on the scale, the technology knew it was me.
Speaker 2: I'm about one hundred and thirty five pounds. Each person's
Speaker 2: info was accessible to each other's users of the scale.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool.
Speaker 2: It wasn't all laughs with Ted and this woman, though
Speaker 2: they'd broken up a couple of times and quickly gotten
Speaker 2: back together. But after their most recent drunken fight, this
Speaker 2: reader had texted where dome. The next morning, she woke
Speaker 2: up wondering what Ted had texted back, but he hadn't
Speaker 2: texted back. She decided to wigh two or more hours
Speaker 2: and thought he'd call. But he didn't call. She wasn't
Speaker 2: going to reach out because he was the one who
Speaker 2: owed her the apology, so she waited and waited and waited.
Speaker 2: Hid in text. She rented a movie, hid in text,
Speaker 2: She rented another movie, hid in text.
Speaker 1: She ordered food.
Speaker 2: She spent all day in her apartment, checking her phone,
Speaker 2: waiting around for him to text her and apologize.
Speaker 1: He didn't.
Speaker 2: After about ten PM, she turned off her TV. She
Speaker 2: went to bed and looked at her fitbit watch just
Speaker 2: you know, like memories vibes anyway, But the number next
Speaker 2: to her profile read one hundred and twenty six pounds,
Speaker 2: which is strange because it was logged at nine pm
Speaker 2: and this is ten pm.
Speaker 1: She's pretty sure that yesterday she weighed.
Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty six pounds, So how is it
Speaker 2: possible that she had lost ten ten pounds of weight
Speaker 2: in simply a day or an hour. She imagined it
Speaker 2: was like a tech issue, but then realize that no,
Speaker 2: it was the one hundred and twenty six pound woman
Speaker 2: standing on the scale at Ted's house, in Ted's bed
Speaker 2: because Ted had.
Speaker 1: Been cheating on her.
Speaker 2: He wasn't going to call because he'd already found her replacement.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait wait, why would the chick even
Speaker 1: bother sitting on the before not like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that is horrible. That's a horrible way to find out.
Speaker 2: I know, and a really smart and perceptive way to
Speaker 2: find out as well. Again, I'd be like, the thing
Speaker 2: is glitchy, not this woman, she knew better. Oh that's incredible,
Speaker 2: it's scary times. That was a story by Bree Mortimer
Speaker 2: for The Wired. There are more digital stories like that.
Speaker 2: There each worse than the other in the best way possible.
Speaker 1: Read at your own risk. Please now I want to
Speaker 1: know I f This is a bit of a simple
Speaker 1: one that I hope everyone listening will play along with
Speaker 1: at a home Would you rather close your eyes? Would
Speaker 1: you rather hang around with somebody who is a constant
Speaker 1: bragger or a constant complainer? This is a great question.
Speaker 1: Thank you. You might have to plagiarize this, okay.
Speaker 2: For your conversation cards Reflex It's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Reflex flex factory.
Speaker 2: I have a few question clarifying questions, and I hate
Speaker 2: clarifying questions when I personally pose these. But a complainer
Speaker 2: not to be confused with someone who is venting or
Speaker 2: sharing the same thing again and again and again and again.
Speaker 2: This is someone who is making you aware of a
Speaker 2: situation that they could fix and won't fix.
Speaker 1: H For me, this one is about someone who will
Speaker 1: like constantly find so negative that's a complainer. Like we
Speaker 1: go to a cafe and there's these gorgeous little tiny
Speaker 1: cupcake with little jelly bean on top, and they'll say, oh,
Speaker 1: like why jelly beans?
Speaker 2: She should have been m ms literally yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: By this one, low level complaining when you just it's
Speaker 1: the classic like not all thoughts need to be shpped.
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally literally, and it's a skill you learn with
Speaker 2: time and with humbling and then with a bragger. My
Speaker 2: initial thought went to someone who like embellishes a lot
Speaker 2: when they tell stories, but that's also not we're talking
Speaker 2: about either. We're talking about someone who was like I
Speaker 2: wish I could tell this story, but it's not appropriate
Speaker 2: for a give me an example of a bragger.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm imagining not in my work context. I imagine
Speaker 1: someone in high school who was hot, but they like
Speaker 1: had that real like I'm so hot energy and they're
Speaker 1: like very shit, which is kind.
Speaker 2: Of like, yeah, I can't even I can't even go
Speaker 2: to a bustop these days because at last my went,
Speaker 2: like four guys try to ask me out, and it
Speaker 2: was just like crazy because like I was like not
Speaker 2: even looking like that good that day.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't even.
Speaker 2: Matter because literally, okay, I personally would rather be friends
Speaker 2: with the drum wall. Please, I'm gonna say the bragger. Okay,
Speaker 2: why initially I thought the complainer, but misery loves company,
Speaker 2: and I really do believe, like even without the woo woo,
Speaker 2: that like we are all operating on like some kind
Speaker 2: of default and come some kind of default filter on
Speaker 2: how we view the world, a default filter for how
Speaker 2: we process our emotions. And like when you're hanging out
Speaker 2: with someone whose default is negative, it brings you.
Speaker 1: Down to where they are.
Speaker 2: A negative person really commands a space so quickly. Let's
Speaker 2: say you walk into you know, you're in a new country,
Speaker 2: traveling your wide at everything's exciting, like it stinks at
Speaker 2: the man, even did you consult heat?
Speaker 1: I just want to get ax with my water.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, but please please. But then the bragger,
Speaker 2: I can imagine you would have to really stop yourself
Speaker 2: from wanting to to humble them and just let them
Speaker 2: have it. Like the bragger is like thinks everyone's everyone's
Speaker 2: flirting with them. You know, do you think we got
Speaker 2: Do you think we got in for free because they
Speaker 2: think I'm cute? No, it says it's free before ten
Speaker 2: pm and it's eight pm. Babe, that's what's happening. I
Speaker 2: think the bragger could really like ascend your mentality by
Speaker 2: just being around them. They're like everything's hot, I'm hot,
Speaker 2: I'm smart. The world is fun, life's and adventure. It
Speaker 2: could get annoying, but I think for the best, what
Speaker 2: do you reckon?
Speaker 1: I agree the only the only other thing about the
Speaker 1: bragger is like maybe they're It's sometimes when someone's bragging,
Speaker 1: you can think that it's because they're like trying to
Speaker 1: make you feel bad, whereas a complainer like often is
Speaker 1: benign there in their own world. But I would still
Speaker 1: agree that it's kind of good to be around people
Speaker 1: who are megalomaniacs in some respect low level narcissist literally,
Speaker 1: because really, I'd rather have to ask someone to stop
Speaker 1: bragging than ask someone to stop complaining.
Speaker 2: It has been long debated whether or not it is
Speaker 2: appropriate and or virtuous to share your most intimate moments online.
Speaker 2: Your engagement post, you crying in a depressive episode, fights
Speaker 2: with your mom. We see these things and say thank
Speaker 2: you for the entertainment. We appreciate you exploiting your most
Speaker 2: intimate moments, But what does it do to you psychologically?
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure. There's this TikTok here Bye, there's
Speaker 2: this TikTok here by Hot Weird Girl g zero RL
Speaker 2: that debates that we should not share our most intimate
Speaker 2: moments online. Do we tend to agree or disagree. Let's see,
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 3: Your most intimate moments belong online. This is a very
Speaker 3: deep Hayter opinion of mine. But whenever I see those
Speaker 3: videos of like a kid crying because mommy and daddy
Speaker 3: got divorced, or like my grandma just said goodbye to
Speaker 3: her sister, did you ask them if you could put
Speaker 3: what is a very tender and extremely painful moment online
Speaker 3: for the approval of strangers. Like I don't know if
Speaker 3: I should be watching this, And I guess it's one
Speaker 3: thing to put your most tender and intimate.
Speaker 1: Moments online, and.
Speaker 3: I teach it around. I wouldn't, but you can, but
Speaker 3: like putting third parties in your life, like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: I've got my girlfriend a beautiful gift and it reminds
Speaker 3: her of her dead dad. So I filmed her reaction
Speaker 3: and I uploaded it. What I think something's are private.
Speaker 3: I know I shouldn't be watching this, Like we've normalized
Speaker 3: that a bit too much and it's not cool. Sucks.
Speaker 1: Actually it's giving Kanye buying the hologram of Robert Kardashian
Speaker 1: for Kim's fortieth Did that happen? Yeah, you saw that. No,
Speaker 1: it's like a whole thing, Like he like bought this
Speaker 1: hologram of Rob Kardashian for him to like say, have
Speaker 1: you birthaty Kim?
Speaker 2: I mean not comparable?
Speaker 1: Okay, did you see the hologram? No body, he was
Speaker 1: another party. You just know it exists. Yeah, has anybody
Speaker 1: seen it fully across it? Anyway? I digree.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you I fell off. I've fallen off, and
Speaker 2: I kind of like it here. I don't know what
Speaker 2: is going on in any of the moment. What I
Speaker 2: will say, though, is this is my grap and we're
Speaker 2: going to look back on it in twenty years time
Speaker 2: and say authenticity culture did a number on you did
Speaker 2: a number because while you're here exploiting your base nature,
Speaker 2: your intimate moments and refusing to process in favor of
Speaker 2: performing to an imaginary audience of strangers, Like, it's all
Speaker 2: going to come back to you in a couple of
Speaker 2: years time. I'm not to say that you can't share
Speaker 2: or you shouldn't share, but I think like there's a
Speaker 2: lack of consideration of what we're doing when we do
Speaker 2: share these moments.
Speaker 1: It's weird. What are you trying to get out of it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But also what will the implication be to you, like
Speaker 2: psychologically in a couple of years time. Do you know
Speaker 2: It's like when you see those get ready with me
Speaker 2: to break up with my partner videos and you're like,
Speaker 2: you are you in the room with us right now?
Speaker 2: You're processing this because I know what I'm seeing, But
Speaker 2: what are you experiencing that would warrant you making this
Speaker 2: and putting it out to the world.
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes you don't know when you're doing
Speaker 1: a post like that. It just feels you just feel
Speaker 1: like you want to do it for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: Zacobc should be so happy with himself right now, Well,
Speaker 2: I've changed your physiological response to existing and you like,
Speaker 2: at one point in time, we had cortisol to tell
Speaker 2: us when to be fearful, and now we have impulses
Speaker 2: to post on an app.
Speaker 1: I love it. It's crazy. It's crazy. You've been listening to
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