Speaker 1: Good. They welcome to you ain't saying nothing yet? The
Speaker 1: movie podcast.
Speaker 2: We're our chat to a movie lover, a better classical
Speaker 2: beloved the movie they haven't seen until now. And today's
Speaker 2: guest comedian, author, TV presenter, Australian Bloody TV Royalty Julia Morris.
Speaker 1: Do you really think you have a chance against us?
Speaker 3: Mister cowboy?
Speaker 1: Open the pod bay doors.
Speaker 3: Hell, I'll have what she's having.
Speaker 1: It couldn't be happening right, nothing.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt that today's guest Julia Morris is Australian
Speaker 2: TV Royalty. I have known Juliet for a long time,
Speaker 2: back when I was making my way up to do
Speaker 2: the stand up circuit.
Speaker 1: Julia was already.
Speaker 2: A star and I got to hang out with her
Speaker 2: through my mates Matt and Janey and we had some
Speaker 2: fun times.
Speaker 1: And then Julie went to the UK and took the UK.
Speaker 2: By storm and then came back and she was always
Speaker 2: a great comic, but she came back a superstar comic.
Speaker 2: She has ability to cut through. She has a mainline
Speaker 2: straight into the funny, like funny is king for me.
Speaker 2: She reminds me of like Amy Powell and Tina Fey.
Speaker 2: Will Ferrell where she doesn't fuck around. She goes straight
Speaker 2: to the funny. She'll do whatever it takes to get
Speaker 2: to the funny. You go to Logis, and the Logis
Speaker 2: is one of the toughest rooms in the business. I reckon,
Speaker 2: I've done it, you know, eight times. As far as presenting,
Speaker 2: I reckon, I've probably got a fifty percent strike rate.
Speaker 2: Julia comes out and people stop and the room kind
Speaker 2: of falls somewhe It's like when Bert used to walk out.
Speaker 2: Hughesy has a similar feel. Shaw Mchaylith. Julia has that
Speaker 2: she has cracked up that room so many times. Not
Speaker 2: only are a jokes funny and beautifully crafted, She's also
Speaker 2: uses all of her physical abilities to get the laugh,
Speaker 2: whether it's her dancing or pratfalling. She will do whatever
Speaker 2: whatever it takes to get laughing. And I know you,
Speaker 2: Bobby thinking, well that's what comedians do. Don't know what
Speaker 2: comedians do anything to get the laugh. It's like no,
Speaker 2: not no. Some comedians will go I do the jokes
Speaker 2: and I tell the jokes and that's that's it. Julia
Speaker 2: will We'll do whatever it takes. Julia's taking her comedy
Speaker 2: to all four Corners of the Globe and the Edinburgh
Speaker 2: Fringe Festival to South Africa's Votercombe Funny Festival, Montreal is
Speaker 2: Just for Laughs, and of course all of.
Speaker 1: The Aussie local festivals.
Speaker 2: She won the Herald Angel Aw Order, the two thousand
Speaker 2: and one Edinburgh Freees Festival and Time Out Magazine's Comedy
Speaker 2: Perform of the Year in two thousand and four. When
Speaker 2: she came back to Australia, she.
Speaker 1: Hit the ground running.
Speaker 2: She was appearing in all the TV shows, but it's
Speaker 2: been more recently as the co host of I'm a Celebrity,
Speaker 2: Get Me out of Here on Network ten, that Julia
Speaker 2: has completely gone to a new level. That could have
Speaker 2: been a pretty perfunctory kind of role, like it's a
Speaker 2: host of a show. You've got to have thrown to
Speaker 2: the live bits, thrown to the tape bits and be
Speaker 2: done with that. Julia has made that role her own.
Speaker 2: What she has given and added to that her chemistry
Speaker 2: with doctor Chris Brown Brownie is hilarious. She has gone
Speaker 2: viral around the world based on her introductions, her throws,
Speaker 2: her transitions.
Speaker 1: She is just the bees knees. Julia is honest.
Speaker 2: She's a first rate piss taker, she calls a spade
Speaker 2: a shovel, She's ballsy, She's one of their absolute best.
Speaker 2: Like I said, she is one of the absolute royals
Speaker 2: of Australian showbiz.
Speaker 1: And I'm bloody starts to be hanging with her today.
Speaker 3: Hello, I'm Julia Morrison. My three favorite films are Waiting
Speaker 3: for Guffman, If I May be Blunt, What's wrong with You?
Speaker 4: Bridesmaids Ready che Pot, I Will and Steal, Magnolia's I'll.
Speaker 3: Write a Check. I support art, I just don't have.
Speaker 1: To see it.
Speaker 3: And the movie that I had not seen was Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 5: During high school, I played junior hockey and still hold
Speaker 5: two league.
Speaker 3: Records most time spent in a penalty box and I
Speaker 3: was the only guy to ever take off his skate
Speaker 3: and try to stab somebody.
Speaker 2: Yes, the nobl MTAV fight winner Happy Gilmore maybe Adam
Speaker 2: Sandler's most fondly revered comedy. Following up his sleeper hit
Speaker 2: Billy Madison, Sandler's Gilmore was a perfect vessel for his
Speaker 2: manchild shortview sports loving persona. When Happy Gilmore's grandma is
Speaker 2: revealed to be a filthy tax dodger and the house
Speaker 2: is under threat, Happy bumbles upon a few convenient discoveries,
Speaker 2: the kind we allowed in eighties and nineties comedies, the
Speaker 2: first being that, despite never having picked up a golf club,
Speaker 2: Happy discovers he can hit a ball off the tee
Speaker 2: a remarkable and barely believable distance. When he discovers he
Speaker 2: can make some fast cash, he enters tournaments under the
Speaker 2: mentorship of Apollo Creed himself Car Weathers as ex professional chubs.
Speaker 2: When Happy makes an enemy in the form of the
Speaker 2: perfectly slimy tour pro Schude McGavin played by Christopher McDonald,
Speaker 2: Happy's mission becomes way more personal. Add to this Julie
Speaker 2: Bowen to Modern Family, Virginia Bennett pr love Interest and
Speaker 2: It's All Happy Times Ahead, directed by Dennis Dugan, who
Speaker 2: also appears in the film as the tournament director. Written
Speaker 2: by Tim Herriley and Sam Lee himself with an uncredited
Speaker 2: pass by Judd Abbatow, Happy Gilmore is much loved, Silly
Speaker 2: and ridiculous, Julia Morris, have you ever punched on with
Speaker 2: Larry Amber at a golf pro am?
Speaker 3: I'm not convinced golf is one of my special gifts.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've got a lot of special gifts, Peter,
Speaker 3: but golf is not one of them. And I have
Speaker 3: played tournaments, but really badly and Ambrose where you go
Speaker 3: off the longest ball. But even then I think I
Speaker 3: just asked the boys could I throw the ball? That
Speaker 3: was in the days when you used to use your
Speaker 3: feminine wiles to entertain.
Speaker 2: I was thinking when I was watching that scene. We'll
Speaker 2: get to it a bit later, the Bob Barker fight scene.
Speaker 2: You know it wouldn't it be funny to you punch?
Speaker 2: I imagine me punching on with Larry MdeR and I
Speaker 2: think the result would be the same. I think Larryender
Speaker 2: would kick my ass. Arry's Larry's un like all those
Speaker 2: covers really cut.
Speaker 3: Like a diamond. Mate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know what I mean? I know makes
Speaker 1: me sick.
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you'd lose.
Speaker 2: No, I'd get a few cheeky ones if I surprised him. Yes,
Speaker 2: did to be the element of surprise?
Speaker 3: Tap tap tap Hello Laddie.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: You are one of the busiest people in showbiers and
Speaker 2: for watching the film and for coming to chat to
Speaker 2: me about it. Why you know you're one of Australia's
Speaker 2: funniest people. Why Why hadn't had you Gilmore been on
Speaker 2: your Was it on your radar at all?
Speaker 1: Was it on your radar when it was a release.
Speaker 3: I think when it came out, I would have felt
Speaker 3: like it was a boys film. I wasn't a big
Speaker 3: Adam sand La fan until Funny People, Yeah, jud Apatow,
Speaker 3: and I actually no before Funny People. That's not true
Speaker 3: in Wedding Singer, anything where he could be a little
Speaker 3: bit more tender, because I never quite believed all that
Speaker 3: gruff mister grumpy stuff, and there were so many of
Speaker 3: those sort of movies where he had that similar character
Speaker 3: of short views, guy mag school, all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: So I just didn't think it was for me, and
Speaker 3: it became all the boys around me forever. Anytime you
Speaker 3: mentioned that movie, oh it's remembered warmly, and you know,
Speaker 3: it was a big cult movie for I guess guys,
Speaker 3: there's not that many girls that I have crossbars with
Speaker 3: who are like, you've got to see this, this is
Speaker 3: a deal break up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this's probably you know, and I know these days
Speaker 2: we try not to, you know, generalize about being a
Speaker 2: boys movie or a girl's movie, but you know, from
Speaker 2: the terms of we were up with there doesn't seem
Speaker 2: to be a lot in this movie for women.
Speaker 3: Well, we started a few themes for women. So in
Speaker 3: the early part of the movie, Julie Bowen's character speaks
Speaker 3: up and she says she's got some fantastic ideas for yeah,
Speaker 3: and for golf itself and to get the pr out
Speaker 3: there and this that the other, and she's kind of
Speaker 3: He puts his arm around her and asked her just
Speaker 3: to duck off and get him a Kappa or something.
Speaker 3: I don't drink.
Speaker 1: She died.
Speaker 3: So we started what could be a frackha between the
Speaker 3: two of them of how very dare you and and
Speaker 3: him thinking that Julie Barnes's character likes him, but it
Speaker 3: never went anywhere. Yeah, so it had loads of moments
Speaker 3: throughout it felt like they had no consequences. Of these
Speaker 3: great big moments, fights, people falling out of windows. There
Speaker 3: was just no consequences. I'm like, maybe I might punch
Speaker 3: a few people up if I thought there was no consequences.
Speaker 3: I don't think you're had to say that though anymore.
Speaker 1: No, you are just punch him. Come on, hey, let's
Speaker 1: come back.
Speaker 2: There's so much to talk about, happy Gilmore and Adam
Speaker 2: Sandler himself. He's obviously he's come up recently a fair bit.
Speaker 2: On this podcast. We did Punch Drunk Love with Hamie McDonald,
Speaker 2: which is one of my favorite films of all time,
Speaker 2: which was very different film to Happy Gilmore. So I
Speaker 2: like to discuss about him and the movie itself, and
Speaker 2: but I want to talk about your three favorite films. Well,
Speaker 2: two of them are my absolute favorites. Let's start with them.
Speaker 2: Waiting for Government Time so good.
Speaker 3: Christopher Guest and his's team, Eugene Levy, I mean, Catherine O'Hara,
Speaker 3: Fred Willard genius from Go to Woe. Somebody said to me,
Speaker 3: you've got to see this movie. This would have been
Speaker 3: back in it I think early nineties, and I'd seen
Speaker 3: Spinal Tap because my mum and dad had that sort
Speaker 3: of sense of humor. So we've definitely seen Spinal Tap.
Speaker 3: And because I'd been in musical societies and I'd done
Speaker 3: local productions in small towns, and it just became there's
Speaker 3: expressions from the movie that I'm sure I still use today.
Speaker 2: I still often say often when roves around as well,
Speaker 2: we often use the term well, actually say, I know all.
Speaker 3: The terms say, in fact, I know all the terms
Speaker 3: so much and just drop my headphones. No, no, I'll
Speaker 3: just I'll just strike that because I do I know
Speaker 3: a lot of those terms going in. I mean all
Speaker 3: time favorish.
Speaker 2: And the whole Uh yeah, I mean the ce Eugene
Speaker 2: Levy cutting and hoa together obviously seen more recently in
Speaker 2: Shit's Creek with Our Magic all again together. It's one
Speaker 2: of the all time endearing comedy partnerships that.
Speaker 3: They definitely, definitely and in watching it without exaggerating, Peter
Speaker 3: I reckon I would have watched it fifty times. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And every single time I watch it, I see a
Speaker 3: different joke or I'll see a joke in the set
Speaker 3: where I love production like that, where every single person
Speaker 3: who turns up to their job does a wicked job
Speaker 3: and all adds to the humor. So there's like multi
Speaker 3: layers of jokes all hiding in the set every time
Speaker 3: you go back to it. And one of my all
Speaker 3: time favorite observations is that how perfect the music is.
Speaker 3: If there's one thing about amateur musical societies, which I've
Speaker 3: been in, no amateur musicians. So the musicians that come
Speaker 3: up often they'll be in between orchestral gigs or something
Speaker 3: like that, and they come and be part of this
Speaker 3: local community feeling. So the music is always perfect. And
Speaker 3: in that production that's exactly what happened, because there was
Speaker 3: one thing that the musical director was in charge of
Speaker 3: that he could control. And the music is absolutely dreamy.
Speaker 2: The score is fantastic, and the voice that the voices
Speaker 2: nobody can really sing particularly well, but that you're the music.
Speaker 1: It's a really good point. Actually I never thought of that.
Speaker 2: The music's always really good, yes, but if it's Parka
Speaker 2: pose or.
Speaker 1: And they probably can sing. I'm sure they came well
Speaker 1: Hurricane doing that.
Speaker 3: And sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Fred will travel agents who have never left hand.
Speaker 3: Well, are you thinking what I'm thinking? I think Hollywood
Speaker 3: is the ultimate goal, but first, who knows, maybe Broadway,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, the delusion is part of
Speaker 3: my daily life, so I really, I really connect.
Speaker 2: With it, and I think, you know, I mean this
Speaker 2: is pre Office, you know The Office, where the idea
Speaker 2: of characters.
Speaker 1: With you know, delusions of grandeur hadn't you know.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they had been explored, but not like it's
Speaker 2: become very popular.
Speaker 1: I think post the Office, and I'm kind.
Speaker 3: Of juxtaposed in this ultra suburban setting that we all
Speaker 3: know so well. So it definitely was that precursor. And
Speaker 3: loads of those performers, including Sasha Baron Cohen, they all
Speaker 3: say Christopher Guest and Eugene Levy their original gurus, and
Speaker 3: that definitely gave that springboard thought of how can you
Speaker 3: take that that style broader? I mean, I can't tell
Speaker 3: you how many pitch meetings I would have been to
Speaker 3: over the years saying it's got a little bit of
Speaker 3: a waiting for government feeling. They're like, yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 3: it does. Show me in the writing. You're you can
Speaker 3: write any feeling you want on the pitch, but show
Speaker 3: me in the writing.
Speaker 2: You'd love to be a fly on the wall because
Speaker 2: there's a lot made that a lot of those scenes
Speaker 2: are ad libs, but I'd love to know. I think
Speaker 2: when you hear the term ad libbed or improvised, it
Speaker 2: means it means different things to different productions, in two
Speaker 2: different actors. Some kind of just maybe use a different word,
Speaker 2: you know, and they claim, oh, it seem was improvised.
Speaker 2: I remember watching the Wedding Crashes DVD and it kind
Speaker 2: of bugged me a little bit that Vince Vaughn went
Speaker 2: on how much he improvised in these scenes scenes, and
Speaker 2: I thought could have been a bit shorter and funny,
Speaker 2: to be honest, but either kind of thought, Hang on,
Speaker 2: there's a writer who's written this, yes, where I mean,
Speaker 2: the way Christopher Guest works is a very collaborative approach,
Speaker 2: even though I think he does get the writing credit
Speaker 2: on it, but he I'd still love to know how
Speaker 2: much was him, how much was the actors involved?
Speaker 3: Well, Peter, when you think about those days on set,
Speaker 3: and they're pretty brutal days when you go to shoot. However,
Speaker 3: many scenes that you're shooting that day, So knowing actors
Speaker 3: the way you and I do, they're not necessarily to
Speaker 3: be trusted for their brevity. So you're either going to
Speaker 3: have an extremely expensive shoot or you've got the proper
Speaker 3: bones of your script sorted out. And what I think
Speaker 3: happens is I say, do you know what. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: say it like that. I wouldn't say please get me
Speaker 3: a late, Peter, I'd say no other coffee, but late
Speaker 3: is my jam or whatever that expression is. I'd probably
Speaker 3: say it that way, which makes the acting moment feel
Speaker 3: more real. And I think that's probably the improvising they're
Speaker 3: talking about, because otherwise, as we know from improvising anything,
Speaker 3: it goes off in directions that it doesn't need to
Speaker 3: and the story does need to lead to the next scene, yes,
Speaker 3: or match with the scene later. So yeah, I imagine
Speaker 3: that there's still quite strong confines, hence the writer's credit,
Speaker 3: and then everyone's allowed to get loose because I have
Speaker 3: also been on sets where you're not allowed to change
Speaker 3: a word.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sam Johnson was here and he was chatting me about
Speaker 2: his frustration with a recent production where he was not
Speaker 2: allowed any kind of agency to kind of have input.
Speaker 3: My drama teacher when I went back to we lived
Speaker 3: in la for two years towards the end of two
Speaker 3: thousand and nine, and the acting teacher says, what makes
Speaker 3: you think you are more gifted than the writer that
Speaker 3: just got this project up? Just like okay, looking at
Speaker 3: it like that. Sure, yes, but.
Speaker 2: I think you know, and I've been in a situation
Speaker 2: where you know, with it today and how to say marriage,
Speaker 2: I think you bring people in who can help make.
Speaker 1: Your project better, whether it's you know, the pre.
Speaker 2: Production and it's art design and all that, and also actors.
Speaker 2: I love having actors, particularly comics who can come on
Speaker 2: and actually add stuff. Darren Gilshen and Phil Lloyd on
Speaker 2: how to Stay married with We just gold having the
Speaker 2: Mickey Britain was this gold having her on.
Speaker 3: That's I think the joy of being a writer that's
Speaker 3: not married to every single word. So oftentimes I'll cross
Speaker 3: pars with writers who are like, no, it has to
Speaker 3: be like this. And if I'm delivering something and someone
Speaker 3: tries to change it, say within a presentation, I am
Speaker 3: quite married to those words as well. I don't like
Speaker 3: people changing my work for say a speech or you know,
Speaker 3: something a little bit longer. But in terms of script,
Speaker 3: I think, yes, the more brilliant brains on it, it's
Speaker 3: just going to load it down with yummy stuff and
Speaker 3: beautiful jokes from everybody's families and you know, lots of
Speaker 3: really nice, nuanced moments.
Speaker 2: If you have that open minded, strong director who can say,
Speaker 2: like you can recognize when okay, yeah, no.
Speaker 3: Now we're just changing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah now we're just changing it.
Speaker 2: For changing it purposes you do need when you're improvising,
Speaker 2: of course you're going to mention it. Then you know
Speaker 2: it involves utue. You know at least two people in
Speaker 2: the scene. You know, sometimes there's the's sole those scenes
Speaker 2: that people can improvise, but you know, you do need
Speaker 2: you do need to be on the same page in
Speaker 2: a way or the same you know too. That's why
Speaker 2: Eugene and Catherine are so great is they're obviously both
Speaker 2: extraordinarily talented.
Speaker 1: They kind of can read each other.
Speaker 2: That's where I think some people try to improvise with
Speaker 2: maybe an actor they don't have that chemistry with.
Speaker 3: And get well, here's my suggestion of where the scene
Speaker 3: should go, and then you take it in a completely
Speaker 3: different direction. That's difficult. You need to trust that person
Speaker 3: that they're going to be like, oh, yes, that direction.
Speaker 3: I think so too.
Speaker 2: And it's also why Christopher Gets I think works with
Speaker 2: the same cast Investing Show and A Mighty Wind and
Speaker 2: the others that he did, because they all have this chemistry,
Speaker 2: they know the process, they trust each other, and.
Speaker 3: They're all quite classically trained actors as well, so they
Speaker 3: would also be keen on having I find it easier
Speaker 3: to change something than to write it, so I think
Speaker 3: they would be very happy to have a more structured
Speaker 3: place to get to within that scene and then have
Speaker 3: some fun.
Speaker 1: I remember going to see Bridesmaids.
Speaker 2: In fact took we took all the kids, actually, I'm
Speaker 2: sure that all the kids.
Speaker 1: Were there and the opening scene, and it.
Speaker 2: Was one of my favorite movie going experiences in all.
Speaker 2: I'm a big jud Apatol fan. Did he did a
Speaker 2: secret pass on this one, but early in his career.
Speaker 2: But this was just I think genius and talk about
Speaker 2: getting the right cast and the right chemistry together. Melissa
Speaker 2: McCarthy obviously Roseburn, it cursed. I was Kurston Christien mixed up,
Speaker 2: not just in Kirstin Wig, but every person or Christian
Speaker 2: Christian Wig, just genius, spectacular.
Speaker 3: I did the hoykey laugh where you think you're going
Speaker 3: to cough out party along and it didn't stop. And
Speaker 3: we were I was with a great made of mine
Speaker 3: and her teenage daughter, and the teenage daughter was mortified.
Speaker 3: My mate had to run out to the bathroom halfway
Speaker 3: through if she was scared she was going to let
Speaker 3: the balloon go. I mean, we were that sort of
Speaker 3: all sounded too far, didn't it. And then and then
Speaker 3: when we got outside, the teenager, you know, gave us
Speaker 3: a little talking to. You guys are so embarrassing in
Speaker 3: the theater. Your last was so loud. Yeah, mate, that's
Speaker 3: kind of what it's about. Yeah, it's a comedy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's because I saw it early.
Speaker 2: It might have been a previous screening and so it
Speaker 2: was at the RIVERI in Campwelling in Melbourne, and the
Speaker 2: the cinema was quite full. And to see it a
Speaker 2: comedy with a pretty much a.
Speaker 1: Full pack cinema. First we have laughter. It was like,
Speaker 1: this is it. This is what cinema should be all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: And that scene where do you stand on on like
Speaker 2: human that involves people shooting their pants or dresses.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a It's not for me, it's
Speaker 1: not for you.
Speaker 3: But only because I mean I laughed and laughed and
Speaker 3: laughed and laughed at that scene. But I don't know,
Speaker 3: just poo poop, I've got a thing. I'm just like,
Speaker 3: can we not leave that out? I don't know. I
Speaker 3: mean that scene was out of control.
Speaker 1: I find it the funniest thing in the world.
Speaker 3: Do you and fluffies? I have trouble with fluffies too?
Speaker 3: Is that some weird sort of like I don't know,
Speaker 3: like old Catholic thing? Do you reckon?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm Catholic and I find it hilarious.
Speaker 1: So fine because.
Speaker 2: For me, especially when it's adults, because as an adult,
Speaker 2: you know it's not supposed to happen.
Speaker 1: You know, you're supposed to contri.
Speaker 3: It merely happened to me last week. So everything's going fine.
Speaker 3: I'm out with a mate, having a walk with the
Speaker 3: dogs along the beach at the front and having a
Speaker 3: lovely time chatting or well to go off the stupid
Speaker 3: walking path onto the grass right along the front there
Speaker 3: along Brighton Elwood and so on. And then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden that exactly like the scene in Bridesmaids. I
Speaker 3: hear glog. I'm like, what's that look? I said to
Speaker 3: my friend, where is that bathroom? She's like, it's the
Speaker 3: end of North Road. There's still a little way to go.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I thought, oh no, oh no, and
Speaker 3: then had to imagine me completely closing my bum and
Speaker 3: cheek was the only way that I could keep the
Speaker 3: passenger on board. As I walked like someone put a
Speaker 3: steak down the back of my spine and with sort
Speaker 3: of like weird squirrel hands, and I made my way.
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, it's overheated. I'd take layers off. I'm
Speaker 3: like I'm not going to make it. I was absolutely sure, because.
Speaker 1: When you get closer to the top, your body knows.
Speaker 3: That just never happens to me. Ever, so I had.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a feeling I recognized, but my god, did
Speaker 3: I know what was happening. And then and then I
Speaker 3: got in there and there was somebody in there with
Speaker 3: a radio on, like I think it's probably best turn up.
Speaker 3: So that scene maybe is more triggering than hilarious for me.
Speaker 2: Well, I find it obviously hilarious, and I'm sure in
Speaker 2: time you will too. I do love the idea, and
Speaker 2: I think I'm supportive of the idea of this blasting
Speaker 2: a few tunes while you're in the cubicle.
Speaker 3: Well, in years gone by, I would have had to
Speaker 3: lean over and put my hip out of place to
Speaker 3: we silently on the on the side of the bowl
Speaker 3: if somebody was next door. I don't know what anyway,
Speaker 3: I'm going to really work through that with the psychologist
Speaker 3: next week.
Speaker 2: I never thought of that, because it's easier, easier for
Speaker 2: a man to aim for the side.
Speaker 3: You would think, Peter, you would think, so where do
Speaker 3: we get to We've got off piece, We're horribly off peace.
Speaker 1: But I do love that. I think it's a perfect comedy.
Speaker 2: It's got it's got beautiful heart, it's so funny, it's
Speaker 2: brilliantly written.
Speaker 3: It's got all these lovely shelves that come back later
Speaker 3: where you place a little joke quietly in the front,
Speaker 3: and then you just know it's going to have the
Speaker 3: most yummy payoff later.
Speaker 2: On John Ham, I mean those scenes, and then Kristen
Speaker 2: Wig in those scenes where she's putting the makeup on,
Speaker 2: she's just woken up.
Speaker 3: Oh you gave me a fright.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the whole feeling. But the boob was just.
Speaker 3: Every time I open my fences I drive up to
Speaker 3: my home, I think of her riding that fans get
Speaker 3: off that property, and I keep wanting to watch it
Speaker 3: with my girls. But those the relations scenes are pretty intense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how old are you girls?
Speaker 3: They're thirteen and fifteen? Not the game, oh please, if
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have already seen it, I just mean sitting
Speaker 3: and watching it with me. I don't think we're there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it'll be a special time when you when you.
Speaker 3: Get to that routing scenes. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: So I still Magnolias. I love this movie. For those
Speaker 1: who haven't seen it, tell us about it.
Speaker 3: Well. It is a group of women in a small
Speaker 3: part of the South in America and they are just
Speaker 3: getting on with their day to day life and the
Speaker 3: things that happened to them and their extreme relationships.
Speaker 1: Extraordinary cast, brilliant cast.
Speaker 3: Sally Field as the lead has a monologue towards the
Speaker 3: end of the movie that is so breathtaking it is
Speaker 3: equaled only by Tom Hanks performance when he's brought back
Speaker 3: onto the boat in You're the Captain Now whatever that.
Speaker 1: Movie is called, Kevin Phillips.
Speaker 3: Yeah, remember when he's brought back onto the boat and
Speaker 3: the doctors are asking him some questions in the infirmary
Speaker 3: and he is missing. It's just it's heartbreaking, it's They're
Speaker 3: the two most exquisite scenes in film I think I've
Speaker 3: ever seen. But Sally Field amazing.
Speaker 1: It is Dolly Partons, MacLean, Yes, Juli Young, Julia.
Speaker 3: Roberts, Julia Roberts, and Darryl Hannah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, Tom Skerritt.
Speaker 3: A beautiful snapshot into how life was in the early eighties.
Speaker 1: What's a rare.
Speaker 2: Movie as well, because I mean, you know, Shirley, how
Speaker 2: often you see movies. I'm not sure how they would
Speaker 2: have been in the mid nineties. I'm guessing this film
Speaker 2: might have been made.
Speaker 3: I think so, No, that would have been oh maybe yeah,
Speaker 3: early nineties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe maybe early nineties.
Speaker 2: Sally Field, Dolly partner Shelly MacLean, olimpad carcass like women,
Speaker 2: you know, like women of you know, even over over forty,
Speaker 2: which I imagine they were back then.
Speaker 1: And this is extraordinary. It was a beautiful it had been.
Speaker 2: I watched it when it came out and it got
Speaker 2: to me and I know, and we don't want to
Speaker 2: spoil what happens at the end, but it is heartbreaking
Speaker 2: and you're at Sally Field's performance and reaction is just.
Speaker 3: Oh, exactly how you think you would respond and what
Speaker 3: she would have had to draw up to deliver that
Speaker 3: acting performance. I think did she not win the Oscar
Speaker 3: for that? I think she won the Oscar for that
Speaker 3: sort of she was amazing. They're just but also like,
Speaker 3: how can you choose three? How can you choose?
Speaker 1: Do you have some apologies?
Speaker 3: Oh? Look, I mean we're hohod you let off. There's
Speaker 3: sometimes that I'm a great revisitor of films so that
Speaker 3: they make me feel I don't know if they ease
Speaker 3: anxiety or what.
Speaker 2: It does not out My wife sent me an article
Speaker 2: recently because I often comment on how many times she
Speaker 2: goes back to the American President, and she sent me
Speaker 2: an article saying exactly that thing. There was research done
Speaker 2: that we watch old films, and I guess it makes
Speaker 2: complete sense. Yes, they make us feel comfortable, they ease anxiety.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it'll be revisiting some of the outfits in it.
Speaker 3: You know, I've seen the shapes of the clothes that
Speaker 3: I remember as beautiful, or there might be a great performance,
Speaker 3: or there might be one smile in it, or there'll
Speaker 3: be something and one. I watch them over and over
Speaker 3: and over again. That's when I try to I try
Speaker 3: to look at how that when an actor is looking
Speaker 3: and doing a piece with another actor is how close
Speaker 3: can you bring your face to the camera without looking
Speaker 3: down the barrel? And that's the trick of the movie star. Yes,
Speaker 3: I think closer we can see the full visage without
Speaker 3: being a side thing, or you know, get in the
Speaker 3: full face. That's quite difficult to do without looking like
Speaker 3: you're looking down the barrel. So I like to see.
Speaker 3: Kate Blanchett is a genius at it, and you know,
Speaker 3: anyone we truly love. That's the moment that they give
Speaker 3: us where they feel like they're looking at us without
Speaker 3: looking down the barrel. Amazing. So that's sometimes I'll use
Speaker 3: watching them over and over again, even though I just
Speaker 3: want you for my own happiness. I use them a
Speaker 3: bit for work as well well.
Speaker 2: So often when we people are nominating their three movies,
Speaker 2: they do nominate those films that they just can't if.
Speaker 3: It's on, there's no way. Contemuely, we're not tuning In
Speaker 3: the Holidays is another one like that. Even though it's
Speaker 3: daggy sweet romance. Mind you, the girls keep making trying
Speaker 3: to make me watch scared spooky stuff like Stranger Things
Speaker 3: or you know, like the Wizards of Waverly Place. Now
Speaker 3: that's a joke, but I've got no business with scary movies.
Speaker 3: I'm cha la la. Yeah, And that's it.
Speaker 1: It's whenny we were on.
Speaker 2: We went to Queensland for a holiday recently and we're
Speaker 2: in a must little villa and my wife and I
Speaker 2: were bridge. We're out having a wine out outside because
Speaker 2: it was it's you know, winter in Queensland.
Speaker 1: You can do that.
Speaker 2: We're in shorts and t shirts and my sons were
Speaker 2: catching up on the late season A Stranger Things, So
Speaker 2: from the inside all we heard that that series and
Speaker 2: I haven't watched the last couple of series of it.
Speaker 2: But it's just the music and the score is just
Speaker 2: so intense. It's like it's it's most horror movies, you know,
Speaker 2: horror series have like intense at times.
Speaker 1: This is intense the whole way through Flight Off.
Speaker 3: I'm in flight or Fight the whole time it's on
Speaker 3: the television. That's me cooking the dinner in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: I assume to get the last and when how many
Speaker 2: episodes do you have to go? Like this is our holiday?
Speaker 2: And where Johnny enjoy this? The Tranquil of Queens Marce dropped, Yeah,
Speaker 2: good times kill me. They did love it. Okay, let's
Speaker 2: find out why are we here? Ladies and gentlemen happy Gilmore,
Speaker 2: the Adam Sandler starring film from nineteen ninety six, directed
Speaker 2: by Doug Duggan and written by Adam Sadler and Tim Harriley,
Speaker 2: with a pass by Judd Apatow. Julia Morris, Did you
Speaker 2: enjoy Habby Gilmore.
Speaker 3: I found I did enjoy it. I'm happy that I
Speaker 3: saw it.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: I didn't have that moment where I'm like, We'll never
Speaker 3: getting that time back. But I think now fifty four, Peter,
Speaker 3: I have started to watch movies through a bit of
Speaker 3: a trauma lens right explain. So I don't know, just
Speaker 3: I think my empathy look is very heavy. So in
Speaker 3: watching a movie like this where the main character has
Speaker 3: aggression issues, he's aggressive to his partner, he is violent,
Speaker 3: but he still gets what he wants in the end,
Speaker 3: it is the And I know it was hilarious, hilarious
Speaker 3: in the nineties to joke about punching people and getting
Speaker 3: away with it, But I guess you know where a
Speaker 3: long time moved on from the nineties. And yes, I
Speaker 3: felt like a few of the themes in the movie
Speaker 3: I didn't take as lightheartedly as perhaps they'd been recorded.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's supposed to be cartoony, isn't it, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's but and that's how it was accepted in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety six and for many years afterwards. I Mean, one
Speaker 2: of the things I think you kind of refer to
Speaker 2: outside of the physical violence is the speaker the way
Speaker 2: he's talking to his girlfriend who has just left him, Yeah, which,
Speaker 2: you know, good call, and he's kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: he's what.
Speaker 1: Do you call what do you call it? What's the
Speaker 1: term is that?
Speaker 3: Is? That?
Speaker 1: Is that nagging?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: I don't know all the terms.
Speaker 2: But he's been very kind of He's saying to her,
Speaker 2: you know, your your ship.
Speaker 1: At your daycare.
Speaker 2: And there's a gag in there that the fingerpainting you
Speaker 2: brought home was was crap, and that's we understand that joke.
Speaker 1: It's a fun joke.
Speaker 2: But then it's he's coming back. He leaves the speaker
Speaker 2: phone and he comes back and says, oh, but baby,
Speaker 2: I love you, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he's making he's been abusive and then begging
Speaker 3: for forgiveness straight away and then abusive. I mean that's
Speaker 3: it is a classic cycle of abuse, yes, and then
Speaker 3: he sort of there seems to be these moments of
Speaker 3: violence that he Obviously the character is I get grumpy
Speaker 3: and I bunch people because that's what I did from
Speaker 3: when I was a child. So having no parents has
Speaker 3: never dealt with. The grandmother goes into a nursing home.
Speaker 3: She loses her house because she hasn't paid her taxes
Speaker 3: and she's put into a nursing home where she's then
Speaker 3: abused as in, you know, threatened by a care that
Speaker 3: works at the retirement village and they're all like working
Speaker 3: on quilts and making quilts, and he's making all the
Speaker 3: elderly people work and being nasty to them. But there's
Speaker 3: no consequences for those actions, or we don't go back
Speaker 3: and get that guy, which pays off the moment that
Speaker 3: he guess it's he's just desserts.
Speaker 2: It's super But do you think that Do you think
Speaker 2: it's a rather you know, progressive comment on the age
Speaker 2: care system.
Speaker 3: Yes, very much.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I think they were doing, Peter,
Speaker 3: I think they were having fun. I think he's read
Speaker 3: in this He's like, let's go onto the golf course
Speaker 3: in a beautiful spot, let's laugh our asses off. And
Speaker 3: then every time he would punch someone or do on
Speaker 3: something physical, the crew would be hacking, and then they'd
Speaker 3: add it again later. Yeah, I could just kept getting
Speaker 3: added to like that.
Speaker 2: I think the Adam Sandler business model is to go
Speaker 2: somewhere beautiful. He's made about five films in Hawaii now
Speaker 2: basically go there with mates. The grown up series exists
Speaker 2: because Adam Sandler just wants to hang out with his mates.
Speaker 2: And we'll get to Adam Sandler specifically soon. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: the I think the reason is that these things are there,
Speaker 2: but there's no consequences even for his violent actions. Now
Speaker 2: if he when he does the you know that he
Speaker 2: takes the jumper off that the guy and he just
Speaker 2: you know, smashes him, you know, but he obviously would
Speaker 2: be banned from that tournament. Like there's so there's as
Speaker 2: much as they're saying, oh, this happy Gilmoor, we think
Speaker 2: he's going to go too far.
Speaker 1: No, he's already gone too far.
Speaker 3: I mean on how many levels?
Speaker 1: But they the simple answer is they don't care.
Speaker 3: The smartest girl there has ends up choosing him, So
Speaker 3: I figure she's a codependent and he's a narcissist.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that the clear choice they have
Speaker 2: made it is for silliness, yes, over anything. I mean,
Speaker 2: even the fact that the way they handle golf. Anyone
Speaker 2: who knows a little bit about golf can see all
Speaker 2: the things.
Speaker 3: I was like, would you really be allowed to take
Speaker 3: a hockey stick onto the course to play? Are you
Speaker 3: allowed to do that even though the hockey stick actually
Speaker 3: said golf along the bottom. Did you notice that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, Chubbs says, this is my old part and.
Speaker 3: What about Chubs? Okay, Chubs and the hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's have it listen.
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen of when Happy Gilmore meets poly
Speaker 2: Creed himself play macarl weathers Chubs.
Speaker 3: Ooh yeah, yeah, bring that shit on. Man. God, I
Speaker 3: love it. Oh God, I hurt a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm all right.
Speaker 5: God, So what the hell are you doing? Three hundred
Speaker 5: and sixty four more days ti next year's hockey trial.
Speaker 1: I got a tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, Gord, I felt good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, boy, got that out. You're making me sick.
Speaker 6: Hey, so y'all hockey player, Uh huh Yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 6: give that shit up.
Speaker 1: You're gonna concentrate on golf.
Speaker 5: Who the hell are you? I'm the club pro here,
Speaker 5: Hubs Peterson, and I'm offering to teach you how to
Speaker 5: play golf personally for free.
Speaker 1: No, you have no.
Speaker 5: Idea who I am doing. No, I don't.
Speaker 6: Back in nineteen sixty five, Sports Illustrated said I was
Speaker 6: going to be the next Arnold Palmer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened?
Speaker 5: I wouldn't let me play on the pro tour anymore.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry you cause you're black.
Speaker 5: Hell no, damn alligator bit my hand. Oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 5: turn them down. In Florida, I hooked my ball in
Speaker 5: the rough down by the lake. Amn delligat who just
Speaker 5: popped up cut me down in my prime.
Speaker 1: He got me.
Speaker 6: But I told one of that bastard's eyes, I'll go
Speaker 6: look at that h you're pretty sick, chaps. I have
Speaker 6: never come in anybody hit that ball half as far
Speaker 6: as you can.
Speaker 1: You got real talent, kid.
Speaker 3: Oh that's nice here to say. I've been training to
Speaker 3: be a hockey player my whole life.
Speaker 5: Golf snow different from hockey requires talent.
Speaker 6: Self disc golf requires goofy pants and a fat ass.
Speaker 5: You should talk to my neighbor of the accountant, probably
Speaker 5: a great coffer, huge assy. I bet your neighbor of
Speaker 5: the accountant can't drive the ball four hundred yards. Bet
Speaker 5: your neighbor of the accountant doesn't have a shot.
Speaker 1: Could get on the pro tour?
Speaker 3: And how would I do that?
Speaker 6: You win the open to borrow, you're automatically on the
Speaker 6: pro tour?
Speaker 1: Then who knows? Maybe you went to a championship one day.
Speaker 1: Get that gold.
Speaker 5: Jacket, like I never got gold jacket, green jacket. Who
Speaker 5: gives this ship?
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't worry about that made of wood, it's real sturdy.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not how golf Tolment's work. Let's let's
Speaker 1: be honest. Grade doesn't hurt your feelings. Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 2: When I was in grade four or five, I wrote
Speaker 2: a book about It's called me the Sports Star, and
Speaker 2: I was I got to go pay the gais style
Speaker 2: not blasted. I made old and I was connection, veryless connection.
Speaker 2: I was playing basketball when I was on holiday in
Speaker 2: the States and Michael Jordan walked past and he said,
Speaker 2: that's a kid with telling and he entered me into
Speaker 2: the game the next day to play for the Boston
Speaker 2: Celtics against the LA Lakers, which Michael Jordan was playing in.
Speaker 2: Now it's weird Michaeljohn actually pay for Chicago Bulls. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure why I was playing for the bust and
Speaker 2: Celtics on that weekend Christ, but that that's the level
Speaker 2: that they're dealing with in this in this movie, entered
Speaker 2: him in the competition.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're just going, yeah, like it's Wimbledon. Where are
Speaker 3: you going to but you're in one of the opens
Speaker 3: and then and you can go. Is that right? You're
Speaker 3: going like a guest, like a.
Speaker 1: Wild card, a wild card.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, he was the wild one though. That's
Speaker 3: the it's very wild.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about Chubbs. What do you think of Chubs?
Speaker 3: So Chubbs, Well, anything that's carl whether Sels is amazing.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a It's interesting the the amount
Speaker 3: of things in the movie that would now not be appreciated.
Speaker 3: So his wooden hand, so obviously Chubbs gets his hand
Speaker 3: eaten off by an alligator in an earlier game, and
Speaker 3: then Adam Sandler accidentally smashes the hand out of his
Speaker 3: arm and then it gets run over, and then the
Speaker 3: whole way through the film there's the arms put it
Speaker 3: back with like half fingers and sticky taped together, and
Speaker 3: it's just this just feels really oddly disrespectful. I don't
Speaker 3: know why. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I do know why.
Speaker 2: But it's funny for me because I saw, you know
Speaker 2: when it came out, Yes, and it was just nothing
Speaker 2: but funny for me. So it's hard to imagine looking
Speaker 2: at it with fresh eyes.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, guys, this is unacceptable.
Speaker 2: And there's no I mean, I guess one of the
Speaker 2: you know, there is a storyline that I was glad
Speaker 2: that they kind of used it as a storyline with
Speaker 2: the alligator and Sandler getting kind of you know, killing
Speaker 2: the alligate, even though it ends up in Chubbs's untimely death.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, everyone kept dying.
Speaker 1: Everyone kept everyone what we never.
Speaker 3: Dealt with de grief or we never I mean, I
Speaker 3: feel like I'm bringing it right back to not being funny,
Speaker 3: which may be one of my special gifts. But yes,
Speaker 3: everyone important to him in his life died, but it
Speaker 3: wasn't giving him enough motivation to behave and it was
Speaker 3: just I think that what they did was they wrote
Speaker 3: it to have some fun, and they did it.
Speaker 2: And I think you set up the culture of your movie,
Speaker 2: you know, and they set up quite quickly that there's
Speaker 2: gonna be weird little gaps in logic. So you accept
Speaker 2: you accept it, and I think that's that's fine. That's
Speaker 2: not even the criticism, like good on them for for
Speaker 2: not in a way for at least making that choice
Speaker 2: and kind of going no.
Speaker 1: This is lives at this leg. Oh absolutely, I mean,
Speaker 1: and we're going to stick to this level.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you see the opposite happened, where it's silly, silly,
Speaker 2: silly silly, and they try to tack on. Sometimes you
Speaker 2: see in stand up comedy shows it's like, we're being silly,
Speaker 2: We're being silly, and at the end, my dad died.
Speaker 1: What you tried to win an award at the end,
Speaker 1: that's not where you're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: Where are you going with this? Exactly?
Speaker 2: So in a way, hats off for saying we are
Speaker 2: going to stick with this being ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Oh and did they?
Speaker 3: But also they literally every single person on camera looked
Speaker 3: like they were having a ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this movie and he's beloved. It's beloved, isn't he?
Speaker 3: And so it's the.
Speaker 2: Movie and the works I think is he's one of
Speaker 2: his most beloved films. I think Wedding Singer fifty first
Speaker 2: Dates might also be in those conversations. Outside of his
Speaker 2: dramatic turns and funny people, even though that's a quasi
Speaker 2: you know, dramatic comedy maid.
Speaker 3: Something like forty three million Peter funny people. No happy
Speaker 3: Gilmore did were right? They paid something like it was
Speaker 3: it twelve make or twenty four to make something like that.
Speaker 3: And the profit was out off the scale. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: did incredibly well.
Speaker 2: And it continue like it continues to find audiences. Are
Speaker 2: you saying you watched it with your your Oh yes.
Speaker 3: My teenage ladies yea, and yeah they were just kind
Speaker 3: of like me, yeah, and went off. I was like, ah,
Speaker 3: lucky ducks, I've gotta watch it to the end. God
Speaker 3: damn you, I'd have the company. Not only that, you know,
Speaker 3: it was even worse. I'd already watched half of it,
Speaker 3: and then the girls like, yeah, we'll watch it with you.
Speaker 3: They love Adam Sandler. And then they sit down to
Speaker 3: watch and they leave in like fifteen minutes in. I'm like,
Speaker 3: come on, I've just watched another fifteen minutes again for
Speaker 3: them to you went back to its going to go
Speaker 3: up to my room. I've got some homework to do,
Speaker 3: as if so have I.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I thought when I was watching
Speaker 2: this film was Nick curios. I thought, you know, it
Speaker 2: was very me baby Gilmoy has a very Nick Curios vibe.
Speaker 3: Mister grumpy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the idea, I like, the idea that can.
Speaker 2: This this guy be good for the sport? And Nick Kerios,
Speaker 2: you know, has just recently you know, I finished a
Speaker 2: runner up at Wimbledon, and the whole debate was, you know,
Speaker 2: every time you watch the well you had these English
Speaker 2: commentators debating whether he was good for the game, and
Speaker 2: he had John McEnroe unbelievably kind of come out and go, hey,
Speaker 2: he's gone too far right without his tongue anywhere near
Speaker 2: his cheek.
Speaker 3: Well, it kind of if nobody says anything and normalizes
Speaker 3: that that sort of behavior on the court. And then
Speaker 3: all of your young tennis players who are coming up
Speaker 3: through the system, who really are there every Saturday and
Speaker 3: every Sunday and driving to tournaments, and you know, their
Speaker 3: parents are putting in the hardyards for this for the
Speaker 3: kid's love of tennis. I've got a great mate who
Speaker 3: drives his son all over the place for tennis. And
Speaker 3: then if this is how you get your point across,
Speaker 3: and this is what we want to teach to the
Speaker 3: young players. I mean, I suppose it's either in you
Speaker 3: or not. You're either that person who blows up or
Speaker 3: you're not. But I just figure that's got to that's
Speaker 3: got a shelf life that's sort of blowing up because boring, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like you're slowing stuff down, you're not being very sportsmanlike. Okay,
Speaker 3: that you know, and I can't help but wonder. And
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is the case with Nic
Speaker 3: curious because I don't know enough about him and his
Speaker 3: family life. But most of the time that sounds like
Speaker 3: someone who hasn't had any boundaries to me. If you
Speaker 3: can blow up and still feel okay about it, you're
Speaker 3: just like you need to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine I'm trying to think the biggest stage for comedy,
Speaker 2: say maybe you were doing the opening monologue at the Oscars.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine going out there and being petulant or
Speaker 2: like or having the confidence to be petulant or the
Speaker 2: confidence totally respect.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, having just done the opening only recently,
Speaker 3: of course, you definitely feel halfway through that petula. I
Speaker 3: felt it because I was like this crowd, because we
Speaker 3: had no warm up. Yeah, no one was used to
Speaker 3: voice in the room. All of a sudden, I'm on.
Speaker 3: Not only that moment before I within the hour of
Speaker 3: me going to do the opening up, my shoe broke.
Speaker 3: The high heels that I'd bought broke, and I had
Speaker 3: about four shelved jokes through my opening about the shoes
Speaker 3: which led one piece to the next because the shoes
Speaker 3: were so high and so impossible, and then when the
Speaker 3: dancers came out, they were going to drag me back
Speaker 3: and the shoes were going to like whatever. So but
Speaker 3: they were still in the auto Q. So while I'm
Speaker 3: standing there doing my monologue and I'm all I'm seeing
Speaker 3: is how slowly the jokes that are no longer appropriate
Speaker 3: are rolling. She doesn't know the whataque lady doesn't really
Speaker 3: know where I'm up to because I'm not doing the
Speaker 3: joke as written and the audience are not listening. I
Speaker 3: was just like, it is this crowd, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: It is the toughest room. No, And I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you do get and I've done about eight I
Speaker 2: reckon six to eight kind of you know, presenting with somebody,
Speaker 2: and I've had I reckon a fifty percent striker.
Speaker 3: You know, it's the poison chalice.
Speaker 1: So sometimes you get a sweet spot where for some
Speaker 1: reason they are they're there.
Speaker 2: I mean you are, but you are one of the
Speaker 2: absolute you know, like the audience usually forced quiet, and
Speaker 2: so you and Hughesy and I think Sean have an
Speaker 2: ability for the audience to kind of you know, quiet
Speaker 2: down and listen.
Speaker 3: They eventually did, but I was quite a way in
Speaker 3: before they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean they should have been. They
Speaker 1: should have been there from the start, hardcore.
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's bring But.
Speaker 2: When I can only imagine you realizing because you become
Speaker 2: outside of your head, then don't you.
Speaker 3: For And I'm thinking, where are those jokes? Where are
Speaker 3: they placed? Okay, so when the dancers come and take
Speaker 3: me back, what am I going to say? Because I
Speaker 3: hadn't thought of it either, I haven't. I knew that
Speaker 3: I was disappointed. The shoes are broken, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Not a not a classic story. But then I was
Speaker 3: in trainers, not even my good trainers, and trainers are
Speaker 3: just sort of worn on the day to get there,
Speaker 3: to get my makeup done. It was all out of micas.
Speaker 2: Night at Nights, nominated for All the gold Load monologue,
Speaker 2: opening monologue.
Speaker 3: And I'm in the gardening trainers. And then the next
Speaker 3: day I didn't read any of it. But oh my god, Peter,
Speaker 3: did I get sliced and diced every single word some
Speaker 3: some group was crumpy about So I was just like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, whatever you need, whatever you need you know,
Speaker 3: it's just chokes.
Speaker 2: It is just jokes, and it would be it'd be nice.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I like that comedy evolves, and
Speaker 2: I think it's important that it's so important that it evolves,
Speaker 2: because I'm glad we're not doing mother in law.
Speaker 3: Jokes totally shaken women's boobies, and that's alone is hysterical,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it used to be you could you know,
Speaker 2: you would have you know, references in your pocket to
Speaker 2: kind of go, okay, that is the the ugly celebrity
Speaker 2: we can make fun of in certain you know, or
Speaker 2: fat celebrity here, or downtrodden celebrity here. And I feel
Speaker 2: like we are, you know, we are beyond that now.
Speaker 2: And it challenges you to work in a different way.
Speaker 2: And I'm really I love that challenge, you know. I
Speaker 2: loved putting the thoughts that I've had through a certain
Speaker 2: filter and kind of going Okay, how can I make this?
Speaker 2: And it's not even about making it work or anything
Speaker 2: like that, it's just making it something that's a positive experience.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, because that's what we're there for, exactly,
Speaker 3: to make people laugh, not to get people offside or
Speaker 3: to disrespect a group or and there's no point disrespecting
Speaker 3: a group if you don't genuinely feel that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have to repeat often these these routines. Yeah, many, many,
Speaker 2: many times. If you're doing a tour and I don't
Speaker 2: want to play to a certain member of the crowd
Speaker 2: and leave out you.
Speaker 3: Know, everybody else, Well, my teenagers help I reckon. Oftentimes
Speaker 3: there'll be something that I will say what, I'm like, what,
Speaker 3: and my girls will correct me. Just go do you
Speaker 3: know what? Just don't use it at all. So I
Speaker 3: said something, I said that whatever it was, I said, God,
Speaker 3: that is savage. And the girl said to me, you
Speaker 3: can't say that. I'm like what they said, it's disrespectful,
Speaker 3: and then went into a series of I said, well,
Speaker 3: hang on, I'm not saying that somebody is a savage.
Speaker 3: I am saying that that behavior is right. His hardcore is,
Speaker 3: you know, disgrace or whatever. No, Ruby's like, just leave
Speaker 3: it out, just leave it out. I'm like, all right, Well,
Speaker 3: I'm happy to leave it out, and I'm happy to
Speaker 3: learn that that's not right. Do you know someone told
Speaker 3: me the other day. Someone told me the other day
Speaker 3: who's they had bumped into a chap in a homeless
Speaker 3: chap and she said, thanks champ. He opened the door
Speaker 3: for her, and she has, thanks champion. He has, don't
Speaker 3: ever call me champ and she's like what and he said, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a dobber in jail and I'm not a dobber.
Speaker 3: And she said, oh, well, may I call you a
Speaker 3: lovely gentleman? He goes that you can call me and
Speaker 3: that was their exchange, and she's like, ha, do I
Speaker 3: not have that exchange? I would never have known the
Speaker 3: calling somebody a champ means you're calling them a daughter.
Speaker 1: I mean champ. Champ's a great word.
Speaker 3: See a champ, see a champ.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: So in that evolving, I'd like to think that I'm
Speaker 3: evolving in the right direction. I'm open to it if
Speaker 3: I might push back at first, or I'm like, hang on,
Speaker 3: that's not grammatically correct.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you want to understand as opposed. I don't think
Speaker 2: we should be like, you know, okay, you just tell
Speaker 2: me what I can say. Why I can't say. It's
Speaker 2: like I want to be.
Speaker 1: Part of absolutely you want to understand it.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not using it exactly. And then I figure, well,
Speaker 3: if if I'm going to get it even vaguely wrong,
Speaker 3: then I'll just dump it. I don't need to say it.
Speaker 3: Get another word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: A lot of comedy on stage, particularly live comedy, is
Speaker 2: risk versus reward.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, what's it worth? You know?
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'd forgotten Peter as well, is
Speaker 3: that when I do stand up these days, I'm on
Speaker 3: so you know, the whatever fifteen hundred people, two thousand
Speaker 3: people whatever are sitting in the crowd. I'm there to
Speaker 3: well maybe not all of them, but they are there
Speaker 3: to see me. So when I come out on say
Speaker 3: something like the LOGI stage to do stand up, it's
Speaker 3: the feeling will be different because the whole room are
Speaker 3: not there to see Mete. So they had that was
Speaker 3: an odd awakening as well.
Speaker 2: I've had the experience just recently. Last night I did
Speaker 2: a gig with jimal On and Dave On there. We
Speaker 2: had a great, great night, just a local bowls club
Speaker 2: to be honest, and it was so much fun. They
Speaker 2: knew who they were coming to see. It was so
Speaker 2: much fun. But the gig before I had done before
Speaker 2: that was for a football club where I was a surprise.
Speaker 2: In fact, I was filling in for somebody who had
Speaker 2: to pull out and that I was a surprise, and
Speaker 2: it was everyone's a.
Speaker 1: Bit dressed up.
Speaker 2: And it's that classic thing where you do often at
Speaker 2: corporate gigs as opposed to stand up ruins where you
Speaker 2: have a dance floor in front of you, and so
Speaker 2: you're playing to advance law and you know, you know
Speaker 2: they dance well for comedy, but of.
Speaker 3: Course any paquetry in tonight.
Speaker 1: So you also know that you are one small portion
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 3: Night totally, and it was you know, you are the stripper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a stripper. I consider it to be
Speaker 2: honest because it was tough.
Speaker 3: I don't do corporate comedy anymore. Peter years are stressing
Speaker 3: out that I was going to say the wrong thing
Speaker 3: and get into trouble because people will be like, you
Speaker 3: know what, we're pretty loose. Say what you want. Then
Speaker 3: I'll get up and do well, here we go then
Speaker 3: and oh my gosh, I get into trouble afterwards. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: so about ten years ago, maybe I'm like, yes, I
Speaker 3: think corporate stand up is over for me. So now
Speaker 3: when I go and host stuff, I'm like, no, I'll
Speaker 3: host your awards and I don't do whatever you want,
Speaker 3: but I don't do a comedy spot. If you want
Speaker 3: to comic, get one in. That's not that night. I'm
Speaker 3: an mc that night. I can't deal with the stress.
Speaker 3: I'm doing my pants. It doesn't stop me from saying it,
Speaker 3: Peter when I'm in the stand up moment, because I feel,
Speaker 3: let's go. But yes, to stand up such a different
Speaker 3: arena to the corporate world where, like, you know what,
Speaker 3: you can say old around here.
Speaker 1: I've had so many people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I've had the experience, but people
Speaker 2: have gone, like the CEOs over there, he's a good guy,
Speaker 2: have and they have a go and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: you shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, here's this time the Securities Commission, we're after him.
Speaker 3: Joke about that sounds terrific. I'll definitely do that.
Speaker 2: So what I was trying to think, why does Happy
Speaker 2: Gilmore work despite the fact that there's you know, there's
Speaker 2: some average jokes in there, there some cracking jokes. In fact,
Speaker 2: I just want to play my favorite line in the
Speaker 2: whole series. It's become a famous line. This is between
Speaker 2: Shuda McGavin and Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 1: And this is the.
Speaker 6: Big trouble Thot pieces a ship like you for breakfast.
Speaker 5: You eat pieces of ship for breakfast.
Speaker 3: No, I think works is Adam Sandler?
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think both. I think Adam Sandler, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Christoph McDonald. And we should talk about him because
Speaker 2: this is one of the reason it works. They have
Speaker 2: come up with a great villain. But he is so good.
Speaker 3: The super Hansome is very funny. Is timing is dreamy.
Speaker 3: It's not an over actor. Sometimes when actors need to
Speaker 3: be a bit dastardly, there's just you know, it's like
Speaker 3: the Wacky Races is on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his performance.
Speaker 3: Is actually quite subtle for such a big performance movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he you mentioned it earlier about the idea
Speaker 2: he can't introduction to him is him saying to Julie
Speaker 2: Bowen's character Virginia, get me a PEPSI like dismissing her.
Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: And that doesn't go anywhere, Like it doesn't become a
Speaker 2: theme that you know, he has no respect for the
Speaker 2: work that she's doing. But it does set up straight
Speaker 2: away that he's a jackass, as the Americans would say.
Speaker 3: And I wonder if, because it was the nineties, it
Speaker 3: felt like so I was talking before about consequences, so
Speaker 3: punched someone no consequences. But there was also I felt
Speaker 3: like a lot of setups that were going to go
Speaker 3: into a much worse situation. So I feel like movie
Speaker 3: writing has changed since then because I so of the
Speaker 3: many things they set up through the movie. I kept
Speaker 3: thinking on God so like when he when the posh
Speaker 3: guy sort of hugs Julie Bowen, I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 3: is going to turn into something never did. So they
Speaker 3: felt like the steps were up in there for lots
Speaker 3: of themes, and maybe they just had to cut a
Speaker 3: whole lot of extra stuff they shot out for timing.
Speaker 3: But these days, that's why my teenagers found it boring
Speaker 3: because it just didn't It didn't go harder, harder, hard
Speaker 3: or harder. If you think of a movie like Date
Speaker 3: Night with Tina Fey, it just gets worse and worse
Speaker 3: and worse and worse, and it just kind of I
Speaker 3: felt like happy Gilmore cruised on the one kind of
Speaker 3: bad thing that I sought and need to sort of air.
Speaker 2: Came up with the idea, which I think was based
Speaker 2: on a friend of Adam Sandler, who was very good
Speaker 2: at hockey and could smack a ball like go for
Speaker 2: quite far and that's the seed of the idea, and
Speaker 2: they and then he's written this with Tim Heraley, who
Speaker 2: is his co writer. He wrote a lot of his stuff
Speaker 2: at Saturday Night Last, Adam Sandler gets sacked. He does
Speaker 2: five Years on Saturday Night Live and gets sacked because
Speaker 2: the ratings went great, even though he was quite popular.
Speaker 2: He does a lot of his musical stuff on SNL.
Speaker 2: Ratings went great, so they let him and I think
Speaker 2: Chris Farley's great mate, Chris Farreley go And then a
Speaker 2: lot of people assumed at the time he was just
Speaker 2: going off to make movies. I'm not sure how much
Speaker 2: was made at the time that he was actually sacked
Speaker 2: because he used to always bring his crew with him.
Speaker 2: I think he's very loyal to his mates, and they
Speaker 2: didn't like well.
Speaker 3: He feels like an incredibly good guy. It does feel
Speaker 3: like I'm disrespecting this work, which I definitely am not,
Speaker 3: because I really have an understanding of how hard it
Speaker 3: is to write a script, to get backers, to get
Speaker 3: it up, to get it happening. There's so many different
Speaker 3: levels that prove and whenever anybody speaks of Adam Sandler,
Speaker 3: he is so beloved, so I definitely don't want it
Speaker 3: to sound like I'm disrespecting this movie, but.
Speaker 2: There is something about Adam Sandler that seems to be
Speaker 2: extremely divisive, like I. He's either beloved or he's derided
Speaker 2: like that, and there seems to be I seem that
Speaker 2: exists somewhere in the middle where I I. I think
Speaker 2: Habby Gilmore has been over the years for me a
Speaker 2: pretty easy watch.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's one that I would put on
Speaker 2: the watch, but if it's on, I'd watch.
Speaker 1: I watch a bit of it, right, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of it has to do sit in McGavin.
Speaker 2: I me and my wife on our honeymoon in New
Speaker 2: York saw Christopher vic DNA mcgavn at in Central Park
Speaker 2: and we ran after him.
Speaker 1: And this year that sute McGavin.
Speaker 3: Amazing, amazing and the at least waves.
Speaker 2: He turned around and gave us a smirk, and that
Speaker 2: was enough. That was enough for us.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine the body of work and just people
Speaker 3: running after him calling out shoot mcgavern.
Speaker 2: Well, he almost didn't want to do the role because
Speaker 2: he'd played a few villains leading into this.
Speaker 1: He was in thelmon Luise, so he's course he's he
Speaker 1: was amazing, He was so good and such such a prick.
Speaker 3: Fantastic, and he feels like, but he's done that role
Speaker 3: a number of times, hasn't he. He's been when I
Speaker 3: was in drama school. Excuse me. When I went back
Speaker 3: to drama school in two thousand and ten in Los Angeles,
Speaker 3: they were talking about people's head shots and what they
Speaker 3: look like. So everyone had to bring in a head shot,
Speaker 3: and then one by one the headshot were held up
Speaker 3: and the whole room had to say what they would
Speaker 3: cast that person in. And so if you are if
Speaker 3: you look like me, they have said you could be
Speaker 3: an English nanny, or you could be somebody's older mum
Speaker 3: or whatever those roles were. That that was what you
Speaker 3: needed to lead into. There's no point pushing against that,
Speaker 3: Like I'm going to get a romantic lead. Why would
Speaker 3: I keep going for that when I just simply don't
Speaker 3: look like that person? So he I wonder has he
Speaker 3: just been cast over and over again because he's so
Speaker 3: exquisitely handsome, He's a very talented actor, and he does
Speaker 3: fill that role beautifully. So yeah, it makes it that
Speaker 3: sometimes you need to lean in to that type. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just to continue working.
Speaker 1: I mean when he's little David Hasseloff joke.
Speaker 2: This is hilarious, Yeah, for the right and wrong reasons.
Speaker 2: But when he's into it before I noticed it when
Speaker 2: I got to it last night, when he's introduced on stage,
Speaker 2: before he does he's first day, but joke.
Speaker 3: Is so fair, like he's not there and then he
Speaker 3: turns are like, hey, hey guys, I'm here.
Speaker 2: It was like I've been in that situation where you
Speaker 2: kind of go, I don't like before I go on stage,
Speaker 2: ideally I'm not seen by the audience. It's it's like
Speaker 2: it's become a superstition, and it's just like it's just
Speaker 2: it's been a show.
Speaker 1: Buz. It's like I hear you, are you get the applause?
Speaker 3: And so were you a bigger sensification?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he's recognized that idea, that kind of feeling
Speaker 2: of going there just behind a curtain is behind a
Speaker 2: curtain and his back turned.
Speaker 1: So it's so good.
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to when Shude McGavin and and
Speaker 2: Happy Meat not for the first time, but they kind
Speaker 2: of get to get her in the bar and shoots
Speaker 2: done to feel a bit threatened by Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 5: I was quite assure you put on too that Gilmore.
Speaker 1: You were the talk of the tournament.
Speaker 3: Wow, thanks so that? Yeah, well you were the crushed
Speaker 3: that ball off the two. I'll tell you what, you know,
Speaker 3: you'd be something when I was a long drive contest.
Speaker 3: You can buy a very good living traveling around hush
Speaker 3: living driving ranges.
Speaker 1: Thanks Pilling. That's that's that's you know.
Speaker 4: I know what you're doing right now, and I don't
Speaker 4: like it, So why don't you just shut your trap
Speaker 4: before I put my.
Speaker 5: Foot don't turn your back on me.
Speaker 7: Let's get one thing straight.
Speaker 1: This is Shooter Store.
Speaker 6: I've worked hard my whole life, paid my dues, and
Speaker 6: now it's Shooter's turn and should's not.
Speaker 7: About to let his run at the top be spoiled
Speaker 7: by some freak sideshow clown. Did you just call me
Speaker 7: a freak?
Speaker 4: I was on this tour for one reason money, but
Speaker 4: now I got a new reason, kicking your ass.
Speaker 6: Well, I'd like to see you try.
Speaker 4: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Then on a golf course.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, what is going on here? Huh oh?
Speaker 4: I was just I'm looking for the other half of
Speaker 4: this bottle, and uh oh, there's some of it right,
Speaker 4: there's a there's some.
Speaker 5: Right there too.
Speaker 3: Why don't you just put it down? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I know, just stay out of my way.
Speaker 7: You'll pay listen to what I say.
Speaker 3: How about I just go eat some Hey, I can
Speaker 3: make things out of and lay by the bay.
Speaker 1: I just may What do you say? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: Well broken bottle trick.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting with the aggression. We did Punstrung Love
Speaker 2: with Hamish McDonald. Hamish did not particularly respond to that movie.
Speaker 1: He didn't like.
Speaker 2: Barry Egan Adams send a place aggression that he has
Speaker 2: his like. But I think in Punstrung Love he we
Speaker 2: know where the aggression comes from. Even though there's a
Speaker 2: there's a small attempt to explain that his parents have
Speaker 2: died and he've got which is you know, we can
Speaker 2: understand that would be the thing, so at least there
Speaker 2: is an effort to explain that, but it doesn't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you it just seems aggression for aggression's sake.
Speaker 3: Well, and also the character is not. In Punch Drunk Love,
Speaker 3: we get a like a ballast of grief and sadness
Speaker 3: almost underneath whatever that aggression is. But we don't have
Speaker 3: those levels of character because he's called happy and he
Speaker 3: seems quite happy. He kinda i'm in things, give him
Speaker 3: the ships during the day and then his response is
Speaker 3: to punch it out. But in actual fact, if you know,
Speaker 3: he was a funny character and trying to entertain the crowd,
Speaker 3: and you know, so he didn't have those levels of
Speaker 3: tragedy like say his character and punch drunk love. So
Speaker 3: it's a little bit more difficult to justify or ever
Speaker 3: justify that violence, I guess. But that's not scene breaking
Speaker 3: a bottle and.
Speaker 2: Next, well, that that was one where I did kind
Speaker 2: of go like the other some of the other stuff
Speaker 2: that I felt was some of it is cartoon throwing.
Speaker 3: Well, federation wrestling, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Thrown at the tax guy out the window, you know,
Speaker 1: and the.
Speaker 3: Tax guys walks off. I guess he hates me. Wait
Speaker 3: what are you not going to hospital? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess I guess he'd be going to treat
Speaker 2: it as cartoony. You can't have consequence, no consequences. Did
Speaker 2: he follow through with that. But one of the interesting
Speaker 2: things Christopher McDonald had issues with being should have been
Speaker 2: scared of happy, because he's like, well, I'm six three
Speaker 2: and you're like, you know, five nine, I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if this is you know, a bit of ego maybe
Speaker 2: from Christopher McDonald. Adam sund I had to explain, well,
Speaker 2: you know, because you know Happy, he's a very volatile character,
Speaker 2: so he's you're scared of he's you know what, you
Speaker 2: know what he would be prepared to do in an
Speaker 2: actual fight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, not the face, the face.
Speaker 1: Not the face.
Speaker 2: The other The other reason I think this movie works
Speaker 2: really well is there's it's a perfect sport for Happy
Speaker 2: Gilmore to invade. Like there's so much pomp and ceremony
Speaker 2: around golf. You know, there's so many rules. You take
Speaker 2: your kids out in the course of the amount of times,
Speaker 2: and I did it for the first time recently, all
Speaker 2: three of them. I've taken them out separately, but all
Speaker 2: three of them and took to the Queen's own and
Speaker 2: recently and we all play golf together. And the amount
Speaker 2: of things I had to take through this is you know,
Speaker 2: you have a replace your divits, and you've got you know,
Speaker 2: the this is you, this is the tea you know,
Speaker 2: tea up from and and there's so many things, and
Speaker 2: then there's like little things about when you're playing let alone,
Speaker 2: when you're at a professional tournament and the protocols involved.
Speaker 3: And we did heap small fish out of water stuff.
Speaker 3: I feel like in the nineties, like the Private Benjamin. Yeah,
Speaker 3: taking this person put them into this completely opposite environment
Speaker 3: and you know, like trading places.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, well he reminded me when he went and he
Speaker 2: didn't know who the caddy was and he kind of
Speaker 2: like you think, thought he was stolen in his clubs.
Speaker 2: He reminded me when Danny Zuko in Greece starts. Ye,
Speaker 2: it's absolutely run the track team and then the wrestling team.
Speaker 3: In is yeah, lettering and track.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also there's there's there's good physical gags. You know,
Speaker 2: there's set scenes. And I think I make his point earlier.
Speaker 2: You know, you're you meant a very good point you
Speaker 2: made about the film that's not having a sense of
Speaker 2: almost like it was nothing really led to anything else.
Speaker 2: It did feel like it was set peace after set
Speaker 2: piece of set piece, which probably comes from it they
Speaker 2: sat in that live.
Speaker 3: Also felt like he was going to win the house back.
Speaker 3: I guess that's what there was. There was no jeopardy much.
Speaker 3: I thought he's just he's so gifted, he's probably going
Speaker 3: to win the house. Back, but I thought what they
Speaker 3: might have done was that he would have lost the tournament.
Speaker 3: But then somehow the tournament was then given to him
Speaker 3: through the other guy cheating or you know, because there
Speaker 3: was you know, the other guy had someone try and
Speaker 3: run out him sound over.
Speaker 2: A security was lack other days driver Volkswagen onto a
Speaker 2: golf course. I mean, looking back, you imagine the public
Speaker 2: liability insurance so that the structure that falls over onto
Speaker 2: the green.
Speaker 3: Amazing, amazing, it was, Yes, so many different market thinking,
Speaker 3: this is just this keeps getting better and better, this movie.
Speaker 1: It's wild.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's certainly what what you had the fantasy scenes
Speaker 2: which I remember always like, you know, laughing at like
Speaker 2: that this is in Habby's head.
Speaker 1: And you got Julie Bowen in the in the lingerie
Speaker 1: with the beer. You had two jugs of beer, two
Speaker 1: jugs of beer.
Speaker 2: And then the second second one I thought was was
Speaker 2: the funnier one where Shin McGavin comes in.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta say, like very handsy with Oh
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, did you see what I saw? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like there was if you look at one hand, it's like.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that feels perilously close. Yes, yes, I mean, now,
Speaker 3: that's that's why you have intimacy coaches these days. That's
Speaker 3: not to suggest that there was anything out of out
Speaker 3: of proprietary, but it was.
Speaker 2: I thought, But you're right in the ty coaches are
Speaker 2: a welcome addition to the secause I reckon that would
Speaker 2: have maybe been been discussed.
Speaker 1: But then I didn't love that. He also then pashed Manner.
Speaker 3: As well, very very funny. That was very funny. Yes,
Speaker 3: I mean, I loved the fantasy scenes and I love
Speaker 3: I love using my body in jokes, so I think
Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved it. And Julie Bowen is
Speaker 3: a very very smart, clever, aerodite, you know, comedy actress,
Speaker 3: and she would have definitely been a part of that
Speaker 3: process because the one thing I keep noticing about Adam
Speaker 3: Sanders films is there he has surrounded himself with friends
Speaker 3: and possibly the absolute best in the business at the time,
Speaker 3: and lots of emerging comedians and comic actors that I
Speaker 3: felt like then just became massive after that. They would
Speaker 3: have been already on track. But there were so many
Speaker 3: little pop ups through the movie where you're like, oh, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: there's another famous person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does bring back Friends. Apparently Chris McDonald keeps
Speaker 2: saying to him, when am I going to be in
Speaker 2: another movie? And he's like, you shouldn't, Magavin, You always should,
Speaker 2: do You remember at.
Speaker 3: The beginning of Funny People, and they show a lot
Speaker 3: of prank calls that Adam Sandler may back obviously in
Speaker 3: his very very early twenties. I think, yeah, so they might,
Speaker 3: and Janine gar Uffalo and say it. And there was
Speaker 3: another comic there as well, but obviously, like deep Old Friends,
Speaker 3: that's a that's a mighty team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I really love that about Adam Sandler. He's
Speaker 2: just he's living his best life totally. He's making films
Speaker 2: just to entertain people his audience. I think he has
Speaker 2: a fair idea who his audiences. He's not even when
Speaker 2: he makes his serious film, you don't get the impression
Speaker 2: that he's doing it to win a moscar. He doesn't
Speaker 2: make puns strang love for that reason. He doesn't make
Speaker 2: uncut gems for that reasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's spectacular. Oh my god, so stressful. I'd like I
Speaker 3: had the stomach of fifty sit ups.
Speaker 1: What the most stressful films I think I've ever seen?
Speaker 3: I couldn't go like a what's happening?
Speaker 4: He was?
Speaker 3: But he is amazing. He is.
Speaker 2: He is one of the reasons that the films that
Speaker 2: popular because at the time the Riose of Tiger Woods
Speaker 2: is one of these things where you never quite know
Speaker 2: what's in the waters when you release a film, and
Speaker 2: the Rise of Tiger Woods he was just taking the
Speaker 2: golf world by a storm, so golf was experiencing.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a GEISTI I mean, he's obviously a huge
Speaker 3: are both the Madison movie, they're both golf films.
Speaker 2: Billy Madison basically is him being an adult in a
Speaker 2: primary school basically. Okay, yeah, I kind of forget I've
Speaker 2: I've only seen it once, but it's him being an adult.
Speaker 3: In of course, he did water Boy as well, didn't he.
Speaker 1: Well, he's a big sports fan.
Speaker 2: He's got this new one, Hustle, which is a more
Speaker 2: of a dramatic one on Netflix, where he plays an
Speaker 2: NBA scout, So he's a big he's a big sports fan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is I wonder, I hope is that
Speaker 3: that Well, I'm so sure he has been for a
Speaker 3: long long while at that point is of his you know,
Speaker 3: working life where he can literally pick and choose what
Speaker 3: he wants to do, work as little or as much
Speaker 3: because he's got I think he's got kids similar age
Speaker 3: to ours. I think they're only just teenagers. So yeah,
Speaker 3: creating that early success as he has in the real
Speaker 3: Churnabyl movies, and then picking the more heart and blood projects,
Speaker 3: you know, one by one as you start to age.
Speaker 3: I think we all do that a little bit.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Bob Barker was concerned about doing the scenes.
Speaker 2: He's the Price is Right host in the States, and
Speaker 2: he only was convinced to do it because he'd been
Speaker 2: actually training with Chuck Norris.
Speaker 1: On his own.
Speaker 3: I think just and I don't know I hear that
Speaker 3: sentence more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he trained with Chuck Norris and was was convinced
Speaker 2: to do it when they said you are going to
Speaker 2: be in a fight. It's going to be a fight
Speaker 2: scene with Adam Sandler, and he said, I'll do it,
Speaker 2: but only I actually do. I don't want to use
Speaker 2: body doubles. Now I suspect they use the body double
Speaker 2: when they're rolling.
Speaker 1: Yes, but it is.
Speaker 2: It is. It became like the iconic scene of the movie.
Speaker 2: Even the promotion leant heavily into this. The trailer Adam
Speaker 2: Sandler goes on prices right to promote it. It became
Speaker 2: a big selling point in the movie. I love how
Speaker 2: Long agoes, but it goes almost the perfect length of time.
Speaker 1: It keeps on going, It keeps on going, gets worse
Speaker 1: and worse. The lines are good.
Speaker 2: Let's ever listen to a little bit of the far
Speaker 2: between Bob Barker and Habby Gilmore.
Speaker 1: I can't believe you're a professional golfer. I think you
Speaker 1: should be working at the snack bar.
Speaker 4: You better relax, bar.
Speaker 6: There is no way that you could have been as
Speaker 6: bad at hockey as you are at golf.
Speaker 5: All right, let's go.
Speaker 2: Do like that old man.
Speaker 1: You want a piece of me. I don't want a
Speaker 1: piece of you. I want the whole thing.
Speaker 2: It is interesting when people watch it now, where they're
Speaker 2: seeing the reactions they're having two vos. I mean, that
Speaker 2: feels like a very cartoony fight. It's also probably helps
Speaker 2: that it is. It's important. I think that Bob Barker
Speaker 2: wins that fight.
Speaker 3: I think so too, And I think that Bob Barker
Speaker 3: entering into it does He is the stress on the
Speaker 3: either the happy Gilmore character bullying him, the fact that
Speaker 3: he kind of comes back and they have this even
Speaker 3: exchange of weird aggression every step.
Speaker 1: Of the word.
Speaker 3: I kept thinking, this is comedy mind field when we
Speaker 3: go to speak about it, because I know lots of
Speaker 3: bits of it art, right, I know it's legendary. It's
Speaker 3: it's a tricky one to revisit. Yeah, yeah, Like I
Speaker 3: wish i'd seen it at the time. Now, yeah, so
Speaker 3: I could have had already had my love affair with
Speaker 3: it instead of coming into it now just going wait,
Speaker 3: what is that? Oh more of that boring misogyny that
Speaker 3: we've come to know in love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's I mean I was twenty one
Speaker 2: when I saw it, and I say, it's not It's
Speaker 2: not up there in the my absolutely favorite comedy movies,
Speaker 2: but it has become an easy movie.
Speaker 3: It was like Animal House or Animal House.
Speaker 1: And Caddy Shack. We're kind of you know, I think
Speaker 1: influences on.
Speaker 3: This, Yeah, right absolutely where.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's there's a it's funny.
Speaker 2: I don't think we make movies that are as cartoony
Speaker 2: where the thing like you kind of mentioned it earlier,
Speaker 2: where I think these things don't actions don't have consequences,
Speaker 2: and there's Just and Adams and the films that all through,
Speaker 2: Like leech Avino, it's just this pops up and I'm
Speaker 2: say I got the Like the second or third time
Speaker 2: Lechavina was, I was like, okay, all right, we've had
Speaker 2: enough leach Avena. And then he does it for a
Speaker 2: fourth time. I think maybe is it the is it
Speaker 2: the e conditioner going down? No, I think it's when
Speaker 2: when Chubbs dies, When Chubbs dies and Lechavenas, I think
Speaker 2: I laughed over that loud. I've forgotten that he pops
Speaker 2: up again. It's yeah, it's it's silly, and it's it's
Speaker 2: they're so hit and miss, but there are they go
Speaker 2: for so many jokes.
Speaker 3: Als it's a very quick joke before someone dies each time.
Speaker 3: So I noticed a couple of times in those in
Speaker 3: the early stages with my girls talking as we wind
Speaker 3: our way down into a movie, they missed two of
Speaker 3: the deaths. I think because they were too busy chatting.
Speaker 3: I'm like, do you want me to go back? They're like,
Speaker 3: please don't.
Speaker 2: I did one question I had about Nana and why
Speaker 2: wasn't she allowed to stay in the house you had
Speaker 2: ninety days?
Speaker 1: Why wasn't she allowed to stay in.
Speaker 3: The house and they'd already taken her stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, they they've taken her stuff. That that's on day one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, they took everything so that none of that
Speaker 3: was making sense unless yeah, so again it.
Speaker 1: Is it is.
Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter, and they know it doesn't matter. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the audience has obviously got it doesn't matter. What
Speaker 2: do you think of the the Adam Sandler's become for
Speaker 2: a bit of product placement? Where do you stand on
Speaker 2: product placements? There have been times where I've worked with
Speaker 2: the ABC where you not have products, but sometimes you like, well,
Speaker 2: I would like to reflect the world. We live in
Speaker 2: a very commercialized world. I feel like the Subway product placement.
Speaker 2: There's and pepsi in there as well, but the Subway thing,
Speaker 2: it kind of I was, I'm kind of okay because
Speaker 2: it's golf and it's kind of you know, you do
Speaker 2: see advertising around and they did add it into.
Speaker 3: The narrative where that you got that little bit of
Speaker 3: extra money because he did a commercial, which is not
Speaker 3: out of the question for an emerging pro gole for
Speaker 3: I guess just you know, just get some of the
Speaker 3: sort of smaller ones instead of the big cars and
Speaker 3: the airlines and whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if Subway, after seeing him punch up
Speaker 2: Spectators and again to a fight with that but love
Speaker 2: it hosting your pro happy, we would be going for
Speaker 2: the movie. But I think in the actual world if
Speaker 2: Subway would be going, he just punched on with the
Speaker 2: host of the Prices, right, let's give him a contract.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that would happen. I think it's
Speaker 2: very funny that they did. Maybe I was trying to
Speaker 2: move on from the It used to give.
Speaker 3: Me the dirts, like when I'd see the girls cleaning
Speaker 3: their teeth in The Bachelor and stuff like that. I'd
Speaker 3: be like, is this the way we're headed? And then
Speaker 3: I did take Away so Sunday Night take Away with
Speaker 3: Chiz and it's all about saying company names and products
Speaker 3: and people nothing to do with me, but something to
Speaker 3: do with the show. So there was something about that
Speaker 3: show that made me understand, it's okay. It's okay to
Speaker 3: have some product placement if it keeps us all on
Speaker 3: the air.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, ever fits the story, and I think Subway
Speaker 2: this here, it fits a story, and I think those
Speaker 2: I remember when Ken Park used to come and give
Speaker 2: away a car and hey hate Saturday either giving away
Speaker 2: a car. I don't care that Ken Parker gets a plug. Now, yeah,
Speaker 2: there was a line obviously, and it can be complicated.
Speaker 2: On the project we did the story, you know, well,
Speaker 2: they weren't.
Speaker 3: Trying to sell us the subway because it was within
Speaker 3: the joke of the commercial, wasn't it. So yes, it
Speaker 3: was in there, but and the joke was kind of
Speaker 3: like going buy one. But it didn't feel like we
Speaker 3: were dirty and being sel something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it felt like it was. It was part
Speaker 2: of the story. It can put up place and can
Speaker 2: get complicated. Though we had at a moment on the
Speaker 2: project where we had done a story, a kind of
Speaker 2: expose a on a delivery, one of the delivery servers
Speaker 2: and you know, the treatment of the drivers and all
Speaker 2: of that. We threw to a The next show was
Speaker 2: a reality show. I don't think it was one of
Speaker 2: your ones, one of your three or four, but one
Speaker 2: of the prizes was somebody like being whoever was in
Speaker 2: there being delivered by this delivery. So they I think
Speaker 2: spent a lot of money you know for that and
Speaker 2: have and and like literally minutes earlier, there's an expose
Speaker 2: about how they're you know, treating.
Speaker 3: Some of their so you know what, Well, that's to
Speaker 3: the project's credit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's not having.
Speaker 3: A little slurp slurp on the corporate luge. Yeah. And
Speaker 3: if something doesn't feel like it's right that the project
Speaker 3: feels like, it's the place where I hear it.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, and quick, quick fun facts
Speaker 2: before we go. I think I think we've covered some.
Speaker 2: Christopher McDonald, I didn't say, rejected the role initially, then
Speaker 2: he took it on. He's also in a great movie
Speaker 2: around a time we doesn't get spoken about enough called
Speaker 2: Quiz Show. Robert Redford directed that with Ray Fines, a
Speaker 2: true story about the quiz show scam that was happening
Speaker 2: around that time. But in twenty seventeen, Christopher McDonald was
Speaker 2: he crashed his car put outside the road and not
Speaker 2: seriously when he was drunk, and the first words apparently
Speaker 2: came out of his mouth was I was in happy Gilmore.
Speaker 3: I do love that.
Speaker 2: One of the golf pros who consulted on the script.
Speaker 2: I can't say I saw the fruits of this consultancy
Speaker 2: too much throughout it, but it was a bit offended
Speaker 2: that initially is going to take basically the US Open
Speaker 2: and to win the famous green jacket, and he thought
Speaker 2: it was it was offensive to that. So they made
Speaker 2: up a new tournament like his big tournament, and he
Speaker 2: became the gold Jacket.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming Adam Sander is a huge golf fan, is he? Is? He?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think he's a fan of sports just in general. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Apparently he's not particularly good at golf. He's not
Speaker 2: particularly good at hockey, but he loves his sports. The
Speaker 2: laughing clown that we're here at the mini golf tournament,
Speaker 2: that's Adam Sandler himself.
Speaker 1: And go back and listen to that. Mark Mothersbrough from
Speaker 1: Devo did the music. I'm not sure if you picked up.
Speaker 3: I didn't see that.
Speaker 1: That's the whip it himself. He's become quite the composer.
Speaker 2: He works a lot with I think Wes Anderson did,
Speaker 2: I think Thor Ragnar Rock I must have you did
Speaker 2: the recent one.
Speaker 1: But he is.
Speaker 2: He's become quite the film composer. Julian Morris, this movie
Speaker 2: comes with homework and you have done it and I
Speaker 2: appreciate it.
Speaker 3: I rocked it.
Speaker 1: You absolutely rocked it.
Speaker 2: We had you know we I think we've done well,
Speaker 2: We've recognized some of its some of its flaws. It
Speaker 2: is when it comes as shock to anyone. Happy Gilmore
Speaker 2: is not a flawless film.
Speaker 1: No, it's just not.
Speaker 3: But it is wonderful to watch to see how far
Speaker 3: we have come in society and that in actual fact,
Speaker 3: walking up to someone who was just standing there being
Speaker 3: a smart ass doesn't actually need to be nearly punched
Speaker 3: to death. So like, at least at least we can
Speaker 3: really see the changes in our society. You know, I
Speaker 3: don't think this film has that much gravitas, but it
Speaker 3: certainly gives us an idea that those things that we
Speaker 3: even thought were funny then and any falling over kind
Speaker 3: of physical comedy, lots of it is funny. But yeah,
Speaker 3: in this it's it's an unusual revisit.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much and keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You're one of the funniest people I know.
Speaker 2: And you are so loved on screen and whenever you,
Speaker 2: like I said, you have when you walk on stage
Speaker 2: at the logis and with the wardrobe malfunctions aside this year,
Speaker 2: but over many many years now, when you walk on stage,
Speaker 2: there is a reverence for you and you are always
Speaker 2: hilarious and let's keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna happy gil will that shit and just punch
Speaker 3: people next year.
Speaker 1: Shut up, Happy, I don't feel bad about me.
Speaker 5: I got my handbag.
Speaker 1: Sie, just begun.
Speaker 2: Julia Morris is an absolute delight, an absolute delight. That
Speaker 2: was a lot of fun reliving Happy Gilmore with Julia.
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed it too. Yes, anytime you can
Speaker 2: catch Julia old Julia Robbers she is. I think Julia
Speaker 2: Morris is the Julia Roberts of Australian show beers.
Speaker 1: I really do. Thanks Jules for that. That was amazing.
Speaker 2: Derek Mayer some Guysway Studios dot com dot au is
Speaker 2: who you need to chat to if you're looking to
Speaker 2: get your podcast up. He helps stitch all of this together.
Speaker 2: Where do you sit on the Adam Sandler spectrum, Derek.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm in a bit of a no it's a
Speaker 7: bit of no go zone for me.
Speaker 1: I really can't stand well. However, I'm glad that you
Speaker 1: enjoy putting this episode together as well.
Speaker 7: Although Happy Gilmore came for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like yeah, I feel like that.
Speaker 2: Billy Madison and Happy Gilmore with Adam Sandler before he
Speaker 2: became this global thing. I I like Adam Sandler, even
Speaker 2: though I don't particularly well. I love him because of
Speaker 2: punts drunk love really, but I love to have you
Speaker 2: Gilmour when I you know, when I came out and
Speaker 2: that was like, Okay, this guy, this guy's funny.
Speaker 1: I like this guy.
Speaker 2: But then he kind of got into these don't message
Speaker 2: Ohan and mister Deeds and the movies that were just
Speaker 2: weren't very good. And he said to be making a
Speaker 2: lot of movies and they weren't always keeping up to
Speaker 2: that standard. But when he's in his sweet spot, you know,
Speaker 2: like Fifty First Dates I think is a really fun film.
Speaker 2: Another one is All the Jury, very more wedding Singer
Speaker 2: I think is really really fun. So when he's in
Speaker 2: that sweet spot, I think he's really great.
Speaker 7: We enjoyed it. I mean when it came out, we
Speaker 7: loved it. Yeah, I laughed, and it was like sort
Speaker 7: of somehow connected to Caddy Shack, which was already historical
Speaker 7: for us. You know, it was locked in yep, and
Speaker 7: so we loved it and it was probably it stood
Speaker 7: outside my a the only film I've ever walked out
Speaker 7: of ever in a cinema because I'm scotsman. I don't
Speaker 7: walk out of things that I've paid for.
Speaker 1: It was water Boy, all right, Yeah, I just.
Speaker 7: For ten minutes in I went, I can't stand that voice.
Speaker 1: I'm out. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: When he's almost playing himself, I quite like him. When
Speaker 2: he puts on a voice, an affected voice, I find
Speaker 2: him less.
Speaker 1: Warm in a way.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm really I'm fascinated by Adam Sandler as
Speaker 2: a the way people react to him.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 2: I hope he does more dramatic stuff. I said, Punchbank love.
Speaker 2: I love uncut Gems amazing. So yeah, there you go
Speaker 2: next week on the show, very special show, very special,
Speaker 2: maybe the most special show we have done. It's a
Speaker 2: one hundredth episode live. We recorded it at the Brunswick
Speaker 2: Ballroom only only last week. Thank you for everybody who
Speaker 2: came out to watch the show. It is Tom Gleeson,
Speaker 2: who was our very first guest, very first guest who
Speaker 2: the Lion King for his first episode, for our first
Speaker 2: episode and for our one hundred episode.
Speaker 1: He watched The Hunger Games, Jennifer Lawrence.
Speaker 2: Lame Hemsworth and all everyone else, especially Jay law Let's
Speaker 2: be honest, we had a fun time. I can't wait
Speaker 2: for you to hear that for those who were there,
Speaker 2: and obviously for more of you who weren't there, because
Speaker 2: you know, we can only fit so many people in.
Speaker 1: But we had a great time.
Speaker 2: So that's next week and you ain't seen that the
Speaker 2: year one hundred episode, my great mate Tom Gleason watching
Speaker 2: the Hunger Games for the very first time.
Speaker 1: If I have a live audience, love it. Until then,
Speaker 1: Bye for now, and so we leave old Pete, save
Speaker 1: fan soul, and to our friends of the radio audience,
Speaker 1: we've been a pleasant good name.