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Speaker 1: This is gem Nation. There's a new must read royal

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Speaker 1: page turner called The Palace Papers. And this has been

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Speaker 1: written by Tina Brown, who is reputable, very reputable journo

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Speaker 1: and authors. She used to be the editor of Vanity Fair.

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Speaker 1: She's written for Tatler Magazine and often very well researched

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Speaker 1: and resourced. So one of the revelations that's come out

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Speaker 1: from this, and I was sad to hear this is

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Speaker 1: that remember when Meghan and Harry came to Australia, they

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Speaker 1: announced that they were pregnant. While they were here, Australia

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Speaker 1: was full of rhapsody for them and for Meghan and

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Speaker 1: it was such a wonderful time. Well, according to a

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Speaker 1: former palace staffer, Meghan hated every second of it.

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Speaker 2: That's the quote.

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Speaker 1: Hated every second of it. Remember they did all the

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Speaker 1: sorts of fab things are at Bondi Beach, Sydney Opera

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Speaker 1: House to Roongazoo and it looked like they're enjoying themselves.

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Speaker 1: We love them. Well, apparently she didn't get this is

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Speaker 1: a quote from the book. She didn't understand why things

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Speaker 1: were set up in that way. Instead of being excited

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Speaker 1: when thousands of people showed up at the Opera House.

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Speaker 1: It was like, what's the purpose. I don't understand this

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Speaker 1: silly that a large crowd came out what she wanted. Well,

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Speaker 1: she thought she'd just come to Australia and she'd talk

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Speaker 1: about the causes that she wanted to highlight or spotlight.

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Speaker 1: This to me shows a basic issue of not understanding

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Speaker 1: the role of royalty. That she didn't, as the book says,

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Speaker 1: she didn't understand the representational role of the British monarchy

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Speaker 1: when they're on tour, and the history of the royal

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Speaker 1: tour and the nuances of it, and the emotion that

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Speaker 1: countries of the Commonwealth share for the Royal family. And

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have guessed it at the time. I guess

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Speaker 1: she's an actress, so we all got that. I'm just

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Speaker 1: disappointed to hear this, and I'm was a giant fan

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Speaker 1: of hers. I thought they are going to be the

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Speaker 1: modern Royals. They're going to be socially aware, issue provid,

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Speaker 1: issue changing thought starters. But no, it hasn't seemed to

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Speaker 1: be that way. Well, they don't want to do that

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Speaker 1: within the confines of the Royal family, and that's one thing,

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Speaker 1: But to Disroyal family on the way out, I think

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Speaker 1: is another. But it reminds me remember very early on.

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Speaker 1: One of the points apparently at which Harry bristled was

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Speaker 1: when William said, early on in their relationship, she doesn't

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Speaker 1: understand the difference between royalty and celebrity and they're two

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Speaker 1: different things. And that sounds like what this tour was about.

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Speaker 1: Your role as a royal is different to you being

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Speaker 1: a celebrity, true, and a lot. It's a role of service,

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Speaker 1: not a fame.

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Speaker 2: That's it. If you're a royal, you've got to fill

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Speaker 2: a fifteen year old up with scotch and then take

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Speaker 2: it to an island. That's what you've got to do.

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Speaker 1: Oh look, I'm not here defending present. I'm not defending princientage.

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Speaker 1: I'm not defending the royal family. But if she'd done

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Speaker 1: a modicum of research, she would understand the role of

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Speaker 1: what that tour was. And she didn't get it. It's

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Speaker 1: like we loved her and she didn't love us back.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit hurtful.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'd be like that if I was

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Speaker 2: married to Harry. I'd say, well, what are you people

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Speaker 2: doing here? Your fools? What do you go go home,

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Speaker 2: go back to your jobs. That's what I would think.

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Speaker 1: But would you take on the role then? And it's

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Speaker 1: a pr role to be a member of the royal family,

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Speaker 1: it's a PR role.

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Speaker 2: I think I'll probably marry Will Moore.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's discuss who you prefer bam to carry

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Speaker 1: your will. Well, I was sad to hear that.

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Speaker 2: Okay,