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Speaker 1: Well, if you're listening to the show last week, you

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Speaker 1: would have heard us all pretty mortified after we'd heard

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Speaker 1: that an eighty year old woman in Karama had been

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Speaker 1: broken into and assaulted. It shocked a lot of you,

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Speaker 1: our listeners, and we've caught up with her. Kathleen certainly

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Speaker 1: spoken to her and very glad to report that her

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Speaker 1: surrounding neighbors have responded and stepped into help by staying

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Speaker 1: over checking in as well. Now joining us on the

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Speaker 1: line is the local member Brian O'Gallagher.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Brian, Good morning Katie, and good morning to

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Speaker 2: your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Mate. We were all so horrified when we heard this

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Speaker 1: story last week that this eighty year old lady in

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Speaker 1: Karama had been broken into by young people and they'd

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Speaker 1: assaulted her. Now, I understand you've been out to see her.

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Speaker 1: How's she going?

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Speaker 2: I did, Katie, so look, I was shocked as the

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Speaker 2: whole community shopped by all of this. I think it

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Speaker 2: happened on the Wednesday night. I make con had to

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Speaker 2: her on a Thursday, spoke to him for about thirty minutes,

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Speaker 2: but I think she was also going off to set

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Speaker 2: the doctor and so on, and then on the Friday morning,

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Speaker 2: I went around and visited her and we sat down

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Speaker 2: and had a great chat. She's a wonderful woman, absolutely

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Speaker 2: wonderful woman. She's lived in Gramas since nineteen eighty two,

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Speaker 2: so she would have been one of the first residency.

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Speaker 2: You know, it really shakes you to the bone, and

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Speaker 2: you know she relaid what happened, but she's so resilient

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Speaker 2: to you know, she had a tough old bugger. I'll

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Speaker 2: give her that.

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Speaker 1: What a woman, Brian. The communities rallied around her as well.

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Speaker 1: Haven't they tell me what they've been doing to try

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Speaker 1: and give her a hand?

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Speaker 2: Oh, look, I think everyone's come around. When I went

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Speaker 2: around on the Friday, there was one of her neighbors

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Speaker 2: was there sitting there carefully. I think they're also waiting

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Speaker 2: to talk to victims of crime and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: But neighbors came in who she trusted. Some of them

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Speaker 2: slept over night just to make sure because what she

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Speaker 2: told me was that this happened on the Wednesday night.

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Speaker 2: There were about five years and she said, look, most

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Speaker 2: of them, she thought they were about eight years old,

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Speaker 2: maybe led by a twelve year old female. And that

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Speaker 2: really raises questions, what kid got that to do this for.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, they came up, they opened the door, they

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Speaker 2: came after. She's in a bit of an elevator house.

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Speaker 2: They grabbed it by the elbows and she said, luckily

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Speaker 2: they grabbed me by the elbows, Brian, because if they'd

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Speaker 2: got to buy the wrist, they would have had more

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Speaker 2: leaven pool and give a credit. She said, I need

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Speaker 2: one of the offenders in the chest to defend in

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Speaker 2: good honor. Yeah, you know, And then she barricaded herself in.

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Speaker 2: They stole a bag or something. She called the police,

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Speaker 2: and she's very complimentary about the police. The police responded

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Speaker 2: within ten minutes. They got there. Then they did a

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Speaker 2: search and all that and checked. She was okay. They

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Speaker 2: were trying to fix up because the kids are trying

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Speaker 2: to get in through the levers and they're trying to

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Speaker 2: fix all that stuff up. Then the police went through

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Speaker 2: the park, I think, and they found the bag. They

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Speaker 2: must have stolen some money out there, but I think

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Speaker 2: she's got a license and all that back all. But

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Speaker 2: the worst thing is Katie, after all that, they came

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Speaker 2: back again. You are gone and she's there and she's

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Speaker 2: rung the police and she tells me the police said

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Speaker 2: you stay on the phone, don't open the door to

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Speaker 2: anyone until we come to you. And they responded again,

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Speaker 2: and good them.

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Speaker 1: Have they caught these kids?

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Speaker 2: Look not that I know of, And it was certainly

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Speaker 2: set up as a crime scene, and I hope they do.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't care what ages they are, but

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Speaker 2: it does raise the question, where's the parental responsibility around this?

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Speaker 2: If you've got eight year olds out there doing this

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Speaker 1: And where's the respect for this in the community? Like,

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Speaker 1: how would you feel if someone did that to your grandma,

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Speaker 1: to your great grandma? Like I would be horrified if

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Speaker 1: somebody did something like that to my mother or to

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Speaker 1: my you know, to my grandmother, God bless her soul,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like honestly, it's just horrible.

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Speaker 2: And this lady's lived here a long time. She actually

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Speaker 2: goes out and helps a lot of people. She's very

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Speaker 2: active in the community that way, So she gives the community.

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Speaker 2: And she wasn't really focused on herself. She was still saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, we've got to do something about these kids,

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Speaker 2: and whatever I see, we've got to get the parents

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Speaker 1: Know, Brian, is she like has she got everything she

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Speaker 1: needs at the moment. I know Kathleen, my producer, has

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Speaker 1: been in contact with her as well. But I know

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Speaker 1: that people are going to be listening this morning thinking

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Speaker 1: is there anything we can do to help her?

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Speaker 2: Look, I'd have to check with it. I know a

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Speaker 2: lot of people have made offers to her. I think

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Speaker 2: some of the business has made offers to her to

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Speaker 2: help find things. I really need to check. But I

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Speaker 2: just wanted to get better because I'd have to say

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Speaker 2: when I went over there on the Friday, and I

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Speaker 2: did give her a box of chocolates on behalf of

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Speaker 2: the community mass, Eh, that's not much, but it's just

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Speaker 2: the community sympathized with her trauma and they really do

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Speaker 2: want to get around that. Yeah, no, she had. You

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Speaker 2: could see the bruises were coming out on the railbows

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Speaker 2: where she got grabbed. So I was really concerned. I said,

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Speaker 2: you've got to make sure you look out. She's got

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Speaker 2: my number, she can bring me anytime. But everyone and

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Speaker 2: the neighbors are there, you know. I think they're talking

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Speaker 2: about certain alarms or those arms and the stress alarms.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we're all going to help her. But she's

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Speaker 2: a magnificent She sounds like she is.

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Speaker 1: Brian, let us know if there's anything else that she needs,

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Speaker 1: because our listeners are like I know that people if

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Speaker 1: there was something that she needed, I know people would

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Speaker 1: certainly get behind her and try to help her out. Look,

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Speaker 1: I hope she's okay. What I'm really pleased to hear

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Speaker 1: out of this whole, very ordinary situation is that the

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Speaker 1: communities rallied around her a made sure that she's looked after.

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Speaker 2: And look, I think you're right because you know, it's

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Speaker 2: an absolute disgraceful thing that happened, but it also brings

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Speaker 2: out the best the best in our community when they

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Speaker 2: get around there. You know that it's a bit like

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Speaker 2: a disaster and all that the community comes together, that's

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Speaker 2: what gives us all the strength. But you know, our government,

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Speaker 2: I've got to say, we're we're focused on improving community safety.

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Speaker 2: We're obviously you got a long way to go, but

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Speaker 2: this is unacceptable, unacceptable behavior in any sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Well, Brian O Gallagher, the member for Karama,

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Speaker 1: really appreciate your having a chat with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Mate, Thank you, thank you very much. And if you

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Speaker 2: ever think of a nomination for the territory and of

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Speaker 2: the Month nominated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, good on you. Thank you. We'll have to

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Speaker 1: try and bring it back at some point this year.

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Speaker 1: Good on your brow and thank you. Okay, Katie, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, you too. It is