1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: This is jem Nation. Recently, I've been reading a bit 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: about a story. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: It happened a while ago, but I've watched a TV 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: series on it, and I've listened to a podcast on 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: it called The Coughing Major. 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 3: I watched that. 7 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: My hold of the quiz was the TV show. It's 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: great and it's a fascinating story. 9 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: It's a true story about an army major who goes 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: on the English version of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: The show hadn't been running that long in England. 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: It takes how the show started and you know, so 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: you've got the producers, this was their baby, and then 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: this guy, well, in a way, yeah, I don' want 15 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: to give it away because when you watch it, you 16 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: don't know at the end if he was cheating or not. 17 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: No, But having said that, there were also syndicates that 18 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: were running where people went phone a friend, here's my 19 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: uncle Jerry. There's eighteen people in a room being uncle Jerry. 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: But this was all before you could google the answers. 21 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: So that's put paid to a whole lot of these quizzes. Anyway, 22 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: But what he was investigated for, and I won't say 23 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: i'll give you spoil on it because this happened years ago. 24 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: He was found guilty of it, but he's never said 25 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: he has always claimed his innocence. That he would look 26 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: at the answers and you get all those options, and 27 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: he'd say, I think it's a I think it's belize, 28 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: and then you'd hear a very vague cough and as 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: he's reading out all the options and he go, actually, no, 30 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: I think it happened in Paris. So he completely skew 31 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: his answer a different way. And when they thought, how 32 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: is he doing this? How is he winning when he 33 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: seems to have no idea? And they listened back and 34 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: one of the sound engineers said, I think someone in 35 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: the crowd is coughing and helping him. 36 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: And then they got the expert that comes along. The 37 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: guy that was coughing has got some sort of sinciitis 38 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: and he's actually got a cough that's quite regularly. 39 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: And the lawyer said, we'll have a listen to how 40 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: you've only isolated those coughs. 41 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: This is how many people cough during a television production, etc. Etc. 42 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: Durn cough. But what happened was he was. 43 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: Found guilty, they took his money away. The coughing major, 44 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: he's known as well, I want to raise the stakes 45 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: on how to cheat. Forget the coughing major. How do 46 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: you feel about remotely activated anal beads? Well, I know 47 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: you've been asked this a lot. Remotely activated this is 48 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: happening in the chess world. Allegations of cheating in the 49 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: chess world to the point where the chess world has 50 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: taken a huge, controversial, dramatic turn. Just recently, the world's 51 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: top player, five time world champion, the best chess player ever, 52 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: resigned from a rematch with a young opponent who unexpectedly 53 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: beat him because there's lots of rumors that this young 54 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: opponent is cheating with remotely activated anal beads. Because these 55 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: days there's a whole chess has tried to get rid 56 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: of all the cheats because there's a whole lot of 57 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: chess computer programs, and so you are scanned, your body 58 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: is scanned through metal detectors when you enter a tournament 59 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: to see if you're taking in any computer that might 60 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: help you, which is why. 61 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: But when you're playing chess, you can't have a computer 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: in front of you. 63 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: Well, different ways that maybe you could have on you've 64 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: watched I don't understand. I don't know, but this is 65 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: a lot there's a lot of money involved here. So 66 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: what this man has been accused of doing this year 67 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: nineteen year old player with the ribs remotely activated anal 68 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: be I was he pops them in and then an 69 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: accomplice vibrates them remotely to help him make various moves. 70 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: I'd make moves to having a seizure. 71 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: Have you got them in the even at the after party, 72 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: I'd keep them in. 73 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: The game for the five hours ago Gavin. 74 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: So he's saying no, no search me. There's nothing going on, 75 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: but that rumor is sticking as it were, right. 76 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: That's good. 77 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: There's no proof they haven't. 78 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: Got no but big time allegations. That's a big time, 79 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: big time allegations. 80 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: With other games like Hungry Hungry. 81 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: Kids are coming up to doing the HSC. I don't know, 82 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: this could be a thing. 83 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: Merely our executive producer said them. When she was in 84 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: her year eleven exams. 85 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: She still tell me she wasn't into robs. Please just 86 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: come back. 87 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: From she had access to conquers. 88 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: She she said she wrote a maths whisper. She wrote 89 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: a maths formula on the inside of a label that 90 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: she stuck. She then reapplied to her WoT in our day, 91 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: we didn't drink water. We all died of dehydration because 92 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: we didn't carry around water at every single minute of 93 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: the day like the lived generations now. But there was 94 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: a kid that I think I've always heard the story 95 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: at school that he would write the formulas and things, 96 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: just wrap them around the inside of the pen and 97 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: put it back into little case. 98 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: Is that bad a cheating I am? When I was 99 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: in I only made it too year ten in school. 100 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: I know you find that hard to believe. 101 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: From this is from the man who said stay in 102 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: school and learned school. 103 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: So that's what so in Latin as a tat you tend. 104 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: I'm doing these school certificate and a week before the 105 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: school of a few days before the school certificated, I 106 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 3: break my nose, so I couldn't actually sit the school certificate, 107 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: so they had to give it to me on a 108 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: later date. So while I was recovering, they set me 109 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: up in the school. 110 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: Library to do them the same exam that so all. 111 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: My mates gave me the answers, they gave me the answer, 112 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: They even gave me a bit of paper and the 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: teacher didn't jet and I took the answers into and 114 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: this is how bad I am a cheating. I just passed. 115 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: I just passed, and I had the answers in front 116 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 3: of me. I just passed. Really and my father, who 117 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: you know it was a maths genius and he went, well, 118 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: that's your best result ever, mate. So I was heartbreak. 119 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 3: I don't want to tell him, you know, dad, that 120 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: I cheated in there, but the best I could do 121 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: was fifty one percent with a page of the answer, 122 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: with a page of the answers. 123 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: How did you misspelled your name? I don't know. I'm 124 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: an idiot. 125 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. That's why I'm doing this. 126 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: Obviously, Well thank you? Was that studied? Like hell, what 127 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: does it leave me?