WEBVTT - WHAT TO WATCH - ALANA McLEAN

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV reload the podcast last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, Hi?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you love that The most Butcher's thing about me

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<v Speaker 1>that's ever happened is that I have a top gun mug.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say that you had a plaid pajama.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorting in Beethoven. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time that I ever met you, I was sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the first time you sort of ever hung out

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<v Speaker 1>one on one. I invited you over to my house.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so excited that you're coming to my house.

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<v Speaker 1>I like cleaned it within an inch of its life,

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<v Speaker 1>had everything all fully set up because I was just

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<v Speaker 1>like so excited you were coming over.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Oh I'm so sorry. I didn't notice

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<v Speaker 2>the cleanliness. If you've had the white King out. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I loved your place. It was just like it was

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<v Speaker 2>so quirky, but everything had a story, which makes sense

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<v Speaker 2>because that's very you.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben loves that I walk people around the house and

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<v Speaker 1>tell everyone how much everything is worth in case you

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<v Speaker 1>have to cash it.

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<v Speaker 2>In one day pawn shop, which is very likely.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, it's so fun about the fact that we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>this is how many people wrote to me to say,

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<v Speaker 1>when are you doing another what to watch with Ilana?

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<v Speaker 1>People who've never written to me ever before in their

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<v Speaker 1>life started writing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's so great. Well, it's good to

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<v Speaker 2>be back. There's plenty going on.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to watch Palm Royal because we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it a little bit later. But did you

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<v Speaker 1>end up having a martini because that show drives you

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<v Speaker 1>to drink? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I did not have a martini because I only watched

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<v Speaker 2>one episode and then I had to get to the

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<v Speaker 2>next one. However, tonight it's a Friday night, I'm one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent and watch a couple more and make something

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<v Speaker 2>something delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>So this week we're going to discuss Palm Royal, which

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<v Speaker 1>are so excited to talk about High Country, which also

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing, Apple Never Falls, and of course we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about all of the freeware stuff. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to touch on all the freeware changes that are about

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<v Speaker 1>to happen because obviously we're losing Maths. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be replaced with Food Stars, which you would know nothing about.

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<v Speaker 1>Idol's going to be replaced with Farmer One's Wife and

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<v Speaker 1>Channel ten's Loss Survivor, and now it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the Celebrity So I want to know from your

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<v Speaker 1>perspective from afar what you think about all of those changes.

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<v Speaker 1>But look, let's get into the real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a wild season of the show. You

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<v Speaker 1>and I debriefed this season well before it came out

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<v Speaker 1>and said that they need to have like a quieter,

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<v Speaker 1>fashion centric, easy season because of all the drama of

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<v Speaker 1>what had happened with Lisa Renna and with her leaving. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it was just such a mess of

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<v Speaker 1>a season in general, and I'm so disappointed. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>didn't believe that I could ever be this disappointed with

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<v Speaker 1>this franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I couldn't agree more. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was a very average season. I think the reunion was

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<v Speaker 2>just how they stretched that out to three parts is

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<v Speaker 2>beyond me. There was nothing there. And to get to

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<v Speaker 2>that final episode of the reunion, Kyle dancing around a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the questions about her and Mauricio, her and

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<v Speaker 2>more and way Sutton having her episode and getting taken

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<v Speaker 2>off with a medic but in a chanelle jacket that

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<v Speaker 2>she changed into with another cast member who they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>force to stay at answer the question. I was just like, what,

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<v Speaker 2>even he is a Kathy on the couch even though

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<v Speaker 2>she hadn't been on one episode of the season, almost

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<v Speaker 2>to be like a Kyle mouthpiece. I was just I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what's happening. I really was quite disappointed. I

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty disappointed in just that whole handling of the

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<v Speaker 2>situation by Andy Cohen. I just think he went so

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<v Speaker 2>easy on Kyle and you could see her giving him

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<v Speaker 2>the eyes. Don't you think like that, Andy, shut up?

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<v Speaker 2>That's enough in our eyes? And he did, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just really I know he's like really chumming with her

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<v Speaker 2>and their favorites, but I just expected a bit more

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<v Speaker 2>from him, given that that's really the only strong storyline

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<v Speaker 2>that they had. And then we sort of got to

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<v Speaker 2>the end and we didn't have an explosive finish. I

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<v Speaker 2>was just shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of reminds me, though, you know how they

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<v Speaker 1>said that or Erica Jane came out publicly and it

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<v Speaker 1>might have been in the start of the first episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the three part finale. You know that he viscerated

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<v Speaker 1>her when he needed to. But you know what was

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<v Speaker 1>really funny about that, I think we've got four parts

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<v Speaker 1>of that reunion, the time that Erica Jane got a vicerated,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if he ever asked her any

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<v Speaker 1>questions that we really wanted the answers to, and then

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<v Speaker 1>to see us here again with someone that we as

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<v Speaker 1>viewers have invested in for thirteen seasons to not have

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<v Speaker 1>him ask No, he did ask about Morgan Waite, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you Andy Coin for that, but we didn't get any answers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, I mean, look, he asked them, she

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<v Speaker 2>gave very top line or you know. I mean, at

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<v Speaker 2>one point she said it's none of people's business in

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<v Speaker 2>relation to one of the questions he asked, and you

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<v Speaker 2>could see Erica roller Eyes and Direte roller Eyes and

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<v Speaker 2>sort of think, well, hang on, it's everyone's business when

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<v Speaker 2>it's somebody else, or it's someone else's storyline or at

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<v Speaker 2>someone else's drama to kind of poke into. So they

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<v Speaker 2>did not appreciate that response. But I just think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's obviously got her own agenda of how she's going

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<v Speaker 2>to unveil that relationship, which I think everyone at this

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<v Speaker 2>point is believing that they are eaten, and or whether

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<v Speaker 2>she's wanting things to play out on Mauricio's show as well,

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<v Speaker 2>Buying Beverly Hills, because that's dropping and we've already seen

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<v Speaker 2>a few trailers for that, which are you know, delivering

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<v Speaker 2>pretty strong little nuggets of what was going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship, because that was filming later after Beverly Hills

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<v Speaker 2>had wrapped up, so they might be a bit more

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<v Speaker 2>juice there. But I just felt like, yeah, she answered them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think in her mind she's like, I've done enough,

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<v Speaker 2>and she made that very clear. She's like, I've delivered

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen season. Other people are delivering about you know, their

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<v Speaker 2>horses and their cashmere lines or whatever she said to something.

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<v Speaker 2>But I still don't think we got that much from her.

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<v Speaker 1>We got nothing. And you know what's so strange, I

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<v Speaker 1>think reality TV is going to have to change this

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<v Speaker 1>because we're so used to having everything stripped over a

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<v Speaker 1>whole season. You know, one storyline, Pandygate, one whole season.

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<v Speaker 1>Youers are sick of this now. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>make good reality television, you're going to have to make

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<v Speaker 1>it faster, the same way that we saw the evolution

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<v Speaker 1>of scripted drama as well, Like back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>Party of Five would do a whole season on Nev

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell and a breakup, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do scripted drama like that anymore. You can

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<v Speaker 1>have a breakup that episode and then you need like

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<v Speaker 1>something very strong by the next ad break you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like, they can't script they can't strip

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff this long anymore, because I guarantee you it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be the death of reality. We need it faster.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. On that breaking news today around Beverly Hills and

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<v Speaker 2>the casting so Anne Marie Wiley Anna Marie, which we

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<v Speaker 2>were like, is it amory potato potato?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't even need to care about the pronounce.

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<v Speaker 2>It's literally gone on Instagram to basically confirm that she

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<v Speaker 2>will not be back for season fourteen. However, in doing so,

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<v Speaker 2>she has kind of thrown the production company under the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to read this quickly for people that

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<v Speaker 2>might not have seen the news. This is on her Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>I just got word today that I will not be

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<v Speaker 2>returning to the Real Housewives of Bev Hills. To say

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm disappointed is an understatement. I never auditioned for

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<v Speaker 2>this show. The show found me and asked me to

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<v Speaker 2>be on it. Out of the blue six weeks after

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<v Speaker 2>the cast had already started filming. I was thrown into

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<v Speaker 2>filming two weeks later mid season. I was excited about

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity, and I thought, following exactly what I was

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<v Speaker 2>instructed to do throughout the filming last season was the

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<v Speaker 2>way the game was played. Listening to what I was

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<v Speaker 2>actually instructed to do was my rookie mistake. What I

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<v Speaker 2>am disappointed about is that the fans never got to

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<v Speaker 2>see the real me or even a glimpse of my

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<v Speaker 2>unique life story, contrary to what was shown on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not obsessed with the esophagus, lol. What I am

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<v Speaker 2>is a woman, a proud Black woman who's truly blessed

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<v Speaker 2>with a wonderful, strong Black man as my husband who

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<v Speaker 2>lifts me up, and our full wonderful children with so

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<v Speaker 2>much love and positivity on the daily. It was an

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<v Speaker 2>important mission of mine for the next season to show

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<v Speaker 2>a solid black family unit and that true black love

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<v Speaker 2>exists even in Beverly Hills. My struggle with losing my

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<v Speaker 2>mother to Lunghans within weeks of taping, and my struggle

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<v Speaker 2>with adoption trauma, and what was going to be and

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<v Speaker 2>still will be a new life journey for me to

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<v Speaker 2>find my biological parents, all of which was taped that

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<v Speaker 2>never shown last season.

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<v Speaker 1>How fucking boring, though, Can I just say, like she's

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<v Speaker 1>missed it again, like I'm so sorry, Like all of that. Great.

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<v Speaker 1>You should emulate those things. You don't need to try

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<v Speaker 1>and prove those things. Do you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to come. I don't want people to

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<v Speaker 1>come for me with and cancel me for being racist. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>I get what she's trying to say about being a

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<v Speaker 1>strong black woman with a strong black whatever, all of

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. It is important. I'm not taking that away

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<v Speaker 1>from her, but that isn't the point of being on

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<v Speaker 1>these shows. The point, and we know this with reality television,

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<v Speaker 1>is to be genuine and authentic. That's the currency with

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<v Speaker 1>your audience. Do not listen to producers. They are like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bee in a little bubble and they're just

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<v Speaker 1>going to buzz around and tell you to be their mouthpiece.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not do that ever to anyone listening to this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do that on a reality show. You just

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<v Speaker 1>have to continuously be yourself or it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>I do feel for her, though, because I think you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when there's new castings you really do need a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of seasons for you know, that audience bond to grow

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<v Speaker 2>with a new person, whether it falls flat like it

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<v Speaker 2>has done with Crystal for three seasons or not, but

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<v Speaker 2>at least she's had the chance. I get what she's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>She's sort of got thrown in there. They were obviously

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<v Speaker 2>giving her little, you know, nuggets to say Polkes aren't

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<v Speaker 2>about these sophigures and this and that, and get in

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<v Speaker 2>there and be a bit dramatic with Crystal, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>followed their guide and then they've sort of said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well that's enough. Thing. So but for her to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of come out on Instagram and basically say that she's

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<v Speaker 2>really pissed with the production company is basically the subtext

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<v Speaker 2>of what she's written there. And that's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>thrown under the bas the.

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<v Speaker 1>Most interesting thing that you have done throw down at

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<v Speaker 1>Bravo publicly at this point of the game. I know

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<v Speaker 1>this sounds like a crazy thing to say at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>but every single moment that you're on reality television, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to be delivering something engaging, do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like every single day you need to drop

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<v Speaker 1>something big. Otherwise the audience are bored out of their brains.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, our own lives are more exciting than yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Anna Marie Well a shade from the Norris this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but like, come on at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite franchise of reality television basically ever is The

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<v Speaker 1>Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. It's really hard to fuck

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<v Speaker 1>it up. And this season was bullshit, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like even Denise Richards being dragged as hard as she

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<v Speaker 1>was to be allowed to be on the show that drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>Whilst it was great television and I love the upside

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<v Speaker 1>down jacket, thank you very much for that iconic piece

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<v Speaker 1>of work, it was all very unfair. It was all

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<v Speaker 1>a cash grab for our attention at the expense of

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<v Speaker 1>someone else's what I would say, or mental health.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I think we've spoken about this before. They

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<v Speaker 2>were clutching at straws. They've obviously been clutching its straws

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<v Speaker 2>enough for them to obviously go and cast Amory as

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<v Speaker 2>a full time housewife, not bringing her on as a

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<v Speaker 2>friend of which was their mistake, not bringing her on

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<v Speaker 2>in a casual capacity to be like, hang on, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just see how she deals with the group. But to

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<v Speaker 2>put her in the titles, give her a diamond, put

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<v Speaker 2>her on the press junket, and then to basically be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we fucked up, and then she's gone. So the filming

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<v Speaker 2>starts again in April, which is right around the corner.

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<v Speaker 2>This will be the first of the cast changes, I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think this will be the last one. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think they've got a very short window to fix this.

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<v Speaker 1>Alana, they all get told every time at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>But what happens is and Teddy Mellencamp revealed this, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is that they all take their time to have

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<v Speaker 1>their moment to say that the show is not happening

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<v Speaker 1>for them. And I think that this series has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of exits. I think there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of upsets with the way in which they change

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<v Speaker 1>the cast. And you better believe that Amerie coming out

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<v Speaker 1>first is your time to shine, honey, and now we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get to eat Crystal so many others like

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<v Speaker 1>even but.

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<v Speaker 2>How many do you think they can change in such

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<v Speaker 2>a short period of time before people start to freak

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<v Speaker 2>out because the familiarity isn't like how many realistically do

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<v Speaker 2>you think they could change?

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<v Speaker 1>But the ratings have gone. The ratings are down. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the lowest rating season finale. And also it was

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<v Speaker 1>about the engagement level as well. And you have to

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<v Speaker 1>admit this. Have we ever in a reunion for Beverly

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<v Speaker 1>Hills felt as bored as we felt? It was literally

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<v Speaker 1>nothing like I felt like, Oh, next part three comes

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<v Speaker 1>out today, don't fucking care?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I know, And that's not like us We're normally

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<v Speaker 2>counting down the day. I just feel like three the

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<v Speaker 2>max they can change for one season before people start

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<v Speaker 2>to freak out. So I think the read might go,

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<v Speaker 2>and Crystal might go, and the rest. I think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>by complete default are going to be given a life jacket,

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<v Speaker 2>just because I don't think they can change more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know who I don't want to see on

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<v Speaker 1>this show become a housewife, and I don't you know

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<v Speaker 1>it would be detrimental to the series. If Sutton's friend

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<v Speaker 1>what's her name? That access Jennifer Tilly, if she turns

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<v Speaker 1>up on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no thanks, I'm done.

0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.760
<v Speaker 1>We get an exit from Kyle, which is a very

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<v Speaker 1>real possibility, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that she plays this game every year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she will be there until the wheels fall off.

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<v Speaker 1>She likes to off. It's the bottom of the car

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<v Speaker 1>now along the gravel, like you could now do to

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<v Speaker 1>this show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they've got a chance to bring it back.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think I think they I mean, will Kathy

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<v Speaker 2>be back?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know just what we want. All we care

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<v Speaker 1>about is the Richard Sisters. We want Kathy, Kim and

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle on the same show and just change the name

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<v Speaker 1>to the to the real Richard Sisters of Crazy Cuckoo

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<v Speaker 1>Town and at least have Lisa Renner there to take

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<v Speaker 1>them to account. Sorry for being so savage about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just genuinely that's how I feel. Before we

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<v Speaker 1>move off this, Yeah, I have some news for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I really hated Erica Jane's two part series Better Long Blonde.

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<v Speaker 1>I hated it.

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<v Speaker 2>Really you hated it. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you did. You send me a message and

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<v Speaker 1>we got to preview it early, so you saw it

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<v Speaker 1>before I did, and we got a previewing. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>How you for doing that for us, And you were

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<v Speaker 1>like really into.

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<v Speaker 2>It, but I was really into it.

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<v Speaker 1>You cried in the finale.

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<v Speaker 2>I genuinely cried. I was like, what a warrior she's overcome.

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<v Speaker 2>She's back on the stage. I sort of it maybe

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<v Speaker 2>because I pumped it up to you so much, the

0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.600
<v Speaker 2>expectations were higher. I just sort of went in for

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<v Speaker 2>a casual viewing thinking it was just going to be

0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:45.520
<v Speaker 2>dance rehearsals and yeah, just kind of watching her put

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<v Speaker 2>the nuts and bolts of the show together. I wasn't

0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:52.640
<v Speaker 2>sort of expecting the extra layer of vulnerability from her

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<v Speaker 2>and seeing her friendship with Mikey, seeing the ups and

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<v Speaker 2>downs of what happens behind the scenes of a show

0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:03.360
<v Speaker 2>in terms of like the ress and the relationships and

0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.160
<v Speaker 2>how they have to kind of navigate through such a

0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:10.040
<v Speaker 2>stressful process. So I kind of enjoyed that part of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I sort of thought when I saw her at

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<v Speaker 2>the end there, and I thought, you know, that's all

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<v Speaker 2>she wanted was that career, and she's managed to hang

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<v Speaker 2>on to it. Good for her. I just can't, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, though, in what way?

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<v Speaker 1>It's so contrived. It's so contrived and it is not

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<v Speaker 1>a reality. Like how deluded do we have to be?

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<v Speaker 1>We know that the ticket sales for Betterlan Blonde in

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas for like six dollars to go along and see it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not Madonna, She's not one of these true icons.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that I love Erica Jane Wright like

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<v Speaker 1>I love Erica Jane I think she's great talent, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel quite contrived by trying to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>she is as big as what they try to make

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<v Speaker 1>her out to be on that show. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I get what you're saying. But I mean, ultimately,

0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.480
<v Speaker 2>she does have a strong fan base for the people

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<v Speaker 2>that love her. Was it enough to sustain as many

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<v Speaker 2>shows as she did in Vegas? She did a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of shows that wasn't like she did one or two shots.

0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.600
<v Speaker 2>She had like a mini sort of residency there, So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they overcooked that a tad.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think, you know, come on, like it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>her fan base is literally it's us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you and I and we were there it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think, look, she almost had nothing to her

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<v Speaker 2>own admission, so to get something back and to not

0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.680
<v Speaker 2>be completely out on the street. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>another reason that if she gets off at another contract

0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.400
<v Speaker 2>for Real Housewives, she will say yes because she needs

0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.480
<v Speaker 2>it and to get you know, some kind of fan

0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.440
<v Speaker 2>engagement and that kind of show. I think she, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hats off. She could have just gone away in a

0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:44.120
<v Speaker 2>whole But anyway, it's not often we disagree on those shows,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's good.

0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Never, Never, we have to talk about Palm Royal, which

0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.400
<v Speaker 1>is now out on Apple Plus. It is a true

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<v Speaker 1>underdog story that follows Maxene Simmons, played by Kristin Wigg

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<v Speaker 1>as she endeavors to break into this high society club

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<v Speaker 1>which is really hard to get into it. It's all

0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.640
<v Speaker 1>said in Palm Beach. The cast is so amazing and

0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:08.359
<v Speaker 1>very camp, including Ricky Martin, Laura Dern, Allison, Jenny There's

0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.919
<v Speaker 1>just so many amazing people in this but it actually

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<v Speaker 1>does ask that question of how much of yourself are

0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you willing to sacrifice to get what someone else has said?

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<v Speaker 1>In the era of nineteen sixty nine, Palm Royal is

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<v Speaker 1>a testament to every outsider fighting for their chance to

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<v Speaker 1>truly belong to a group that doesn't really want them

0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.280
<v Speaker 1>to belong. I don't even feel like I need to

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<v Speaker 1>say too much more. What did you think of episode one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Oh my god, So I watched episode one last

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<v Speaker 2>night and I just was instantly swept into that world.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, quite a few shows, and we've

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<v Speaker 2>spoken about it before that we're watching at the moment

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<v Speaker 2>with episode one, it's a bit of a slow burn

0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.760
<v Speaker 2>and you're sort of a bit like it it's okay,

0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.680
<v Speaker 2>and you're trying to figure out the dynamics where it's

0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.600
<v Speaker 2>all kind of going to fit together. I did not

0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.040
<v Speaker 2>feel like that with this. I felt instantly like I

0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.760
<v Speaker 2>knew what was going on, the characters were well into

0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:03.560
<v Speaker 2>do Visually, it just looked stunning, and I think in

0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.560
<v Speaker 2>that sense it really had that like white Lotus appeal

0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.080
<v Speaker 2>where you just visually want to watch that. You want

0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.280
<v Speaker 2>to get your drink, you want your room to be dark.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got these beautiful iconic scenes of the beach and

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<v Speaker 2>the fashion, as you mentioned, and then Christian Wig just

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<v Speaker 2>instantly captivates you. She just takes you into that world.

0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.040
<v Speaker 2>That's the best character I've seen her play. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like a huge Christian Whig fan. I know that everyone

0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, Brad's Maids and this and that. I was like,

0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever, it's de rom com, but I just

0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.320
<v Speaker 2>find her in this role. She's absolutely killing it. And

0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:40.359
<v Speaker 2>the support cars Alison Janny, Laura Dern.

0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Laura Darney, like seriously like some.

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<v Speaker 2>Of our favorites. So I am just absolutely loving every

0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.120
<v Speaker 2>part of it. I feel like I've cut into one

0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.359
<v Speaker 2>of those big kitty rainbow cakes and there's all the

0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.080
<v Speaker 2>right colors and the layers, but like, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get We're going to get to the messy dirtiness of

0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:01.040
<v Speaker 2>it really soon. In regards to how they finished episode

0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.640
<v Speaker 2>one without giving away any spoilers, but I think they've

0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:05.679
<v Speaker 2>set the story up perfectly well.

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.239
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting that you talk about kristin Wigan, you're not

0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.679
<v Speaker 1>necessarily ever coming to her party because I'm such a

0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.399
<v Speaker 1>big Christian Whig fan. I loved her on SNL. I

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<v Speaker 1>was in on the ground floor of her success on

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<v Speaker 1>that I watched those seasons. I might have been the

0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.000
<v Speaker 1>only person that was watching SNL season four hundred and

0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.400
<v Speaker 1>fifty five at that point. But she was so good

0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:28.760
<v Speaker 1>and then Bride'smaids amazing. However, what had happened to her

0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:33.199
<v Speaker 1>after Bride'smaids was so insane. She tried to become a

0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.639
<v Speaker 1>serious actress. She was having all of these roles that

0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.760
<v Speaker 1>were like, oh great, she's in this amazing movie. You know,

0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.639
<v Speaker 1>love Christian Wig. But she never delivered like there was

0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.760
<v Speaker 1>like nothing. Every time I turned up to a Christian

0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Weik movie for the last ten years, I was like,

0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.280
<v Speaker 1>what is going on with this woman? And this is

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<v Speaker 1>her in her lane?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, she is in her lane alright. The way that

0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:58.040
<v Speaker 2>she's playing this character and she's sort of so optimistic

0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:02.480
<v Speaker 2>but then just enough to be the realist at the

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.280
<v Speaker 2>same time, and the way that she's sort of balancing

0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.480
<v Speaker 2>and dancing with that line. I think that's what's making

0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:10.520
<v Speaker 2>the dynamics sort of compelling viewing.

0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.560
<v Speaker 1>It's laugh out loud, you know what I mean, Like

0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.840
<v Speaker 1>you're actually watching the show and you're laughing, and it's

0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.040
<v Speaker 1>so relatable, Like as I was saying, when we sort

0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:21.000
<v Speaker 1>of intrude this about us when we were younger, always

0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:22.600
<v Speaker 1>wanting to be a part of the cool group. Do

0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Like that is gay?

0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just about fitting in in general, whatever

0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:29.760
<v Speaker 2>that means to you. And I think that's where people

0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.000
<v Speaker 2>can watch that show. And yes, it's about high society,

0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.920
<v Speaker 2>but really it's the society that we're all living in

0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.879
<v Speaker 2>in whatever way that is, whether you're a you know,

0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.040
<v Speaker 2>gul mum with the committees or whether you're at work

0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.840
<v Speaker 2>and you're trying to get into that department or whatever

0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.720
<v Speaker 2>it is, and that's where it's really can land for everyone.

0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.080
<v Speaker 1>What were you in law? What were you like? I

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.400
<v Speaker 1>want to just ask this question and delve a little

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.879
<v Speaker 1>bit deeper into Alana MacLean, Like in high school, are

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<v Speaker 1>you prom queen?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you fit in social hierarchy you? Because I

0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:03.680
<v Speaker 1>think I imagine you to be prom queen?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I wasn't. No. I was just sort of like

0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.880
<v Speaker 2>there was that kind of group, and I would say

0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.879
<v Speaker 2>I was maybe in sort of a next level group

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to call it that, in like a

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<v Speaker 2>pecking order. I was just no, I was just normal,

0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I wasn't you know, I had friends that were

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.959
<v Speaker 2>guys and girls. I was friends with like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different people.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds to me like you were popular at school, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Like, I mean, that's that's

0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:32.040
<v Speaker 1>human Your adult life is I think people genuinely are

0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:32.919
<v Speaker 1>drawn to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Alis and Jenny Laura Dern seeing them in

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<v Speaker 2>these type of characters, they're so strong in their own way,

0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:43.600
<v Speaker 2>and they really they really have set up a strong

0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:48.080
<v Speaker 2>tempo in this first episode that you can see exactly

0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.480
<v Speaker 2>where it's kind of going to play out in terms

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:52.080
<v Speaker 2>of those characters moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this show is really camp. It is really fun.

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.119
<v Speaker 1>It makes me want to have more spray hands that

0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:58.159
<v Speaker 1>I've ever had before.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Ricky Martin Levell break then he is bronzed.

0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:06.800
<v Speaker 2>He is beautiful. What a great sort of little side

0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.280
<v Speaker 2>role for him. I know I want that hair that

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<v Speaker 2>episode one. If you're not hooked, I'll be surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>The last thing I want to finish this on is

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<v Speaker 1>how funny is Laura Dern. It's a wig in this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Considering that this wig is Celeste's wig from Big Little Lives,

0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:26.800
<v Speaker 1>it's literally the same wig Nicole Kidman was wearing in

0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:28.200
<v Speaker 1>two seasons of Big Little Eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Really did it? I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 1>When you watch it, watch for that wig and then

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.120
<v Speaker 1>get a screen grab of Nicole in her Celeste glory

0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:40.160
<v Speaker 1>with her Big Little Lives wig and just laugh out

0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 1>loud like it's literally Laura Jurn must have wrung Nicole

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and said, hey, babe, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I need that wig. You still got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing it. I'm doing another series, babe, and I

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<v Speaker 1>need that wig. The Celeste wig and Nicole you know,

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.040
<v Speaker 1>would have been like, well, I don't know if you

0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:57.240
<v Speaker 1>can pull it off, but you know, I'll send it

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<v Speaker 1>to you in the mail.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's so good. I mean even with that that

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:02.919
<v Speaker 2>we the character that she's playing, which is sort of

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 2>the anti high society I guess you would call it.

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<v Speaker 2>And she is, you know, about women, and she's really

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<v Speaker 2>part of that feminist movement and women having a voice.

0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:17.160
<v Speaker 2>And Kristen is kind of caught between the two worlds

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:19.959
<v Speaker 2>in her character in this initial episode what she wants

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:23.159
<v Speaker 2>and then where she's actually being wanted, which is with

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Laura Dern's kind of a click so the wig or not.

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:31.159
<v Speaker 2>She's definitely a queen of you know, being able to

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:33.440
<v Speaker 2>sort of put on that smile but having so much

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:34.480
<v Speaker 2>more lying behind it.

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Obsessed. So Apple's Never Fall is also on being and Foxtel.

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:41.919
<v Speaker 1>Everyone in West Palm Beach knows the Delaney family. This

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>series is based on a Leanne Moriarty book which was

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<v Speaker 1>very popular, probably one of her most popular books. It

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.719
<v Speaker 1>does follow Anette Benning and Sam Neil's characters. We do

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 1>get to see them in Leanne Moriarty Glory, which is

0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 1>family dynamics being picked apart which I think is where

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:03.199
<v Speaker 1>this show works at its best. It is more of

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:05.439
<v Speaker 1>a who Done it? And that is completely set up

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>right from the start. It's very glossy, it's very expensive.

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 1>We know that it was filmed in Australia, except that

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:14.879
<v Speaker 1>it's apparently said in Miami. There's so much to be

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>drawn into this series, and I think a lot of

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:19.440
<v Speaker 1>people are going to be bing binge watching this over

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:20.479
<v Speaker 1>the next weekend.

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I'd say, well, I was very excited for this because

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I thought they were going to drop this week by

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 2>week and they've dropped it all in one go, and

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I thought, oh my god, brilliant. I want to watch that.

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Last week I was traveling, I thought, oh, watch them

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 2>all on the plane. That'll be great. And I didn't

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 2>realize that on Binge you can't download, you can only stream.

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.679
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh no, So I only just started

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 2>watching it this week, so I think I'm like one

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 2>and a half episodes in and I cannot wait to

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 2>watch the rest of it. I think Annette Benning and

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Sam Neil are cassed perfectly in those roles, so it's

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 2>set up like they are a retired couple. They've run

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 2>this very high profile Tennis Academy. They're very well known,

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 2>well to do in the community. They've got a beautiful

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.400
<v Speaker 2>family of four, they've got the gorgeous house. But as

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 2>you say, Leanne Moriarty, is there is the queen of

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 2>sort of setting up that scene and then going what

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 2>is really going on under the surface, And that is

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 2>really what you start to get a sense of in

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 2>that first episode when Anett Bennings character is missing.

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>It's set up so well. But my only issue with

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>this series, an obvious thing that I want to say,

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:29.199
<v Speaker 1>and that is that Big Little Lives feels like the

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:32.400
<v Speaker 1>bench was set so high, and so that can sometimes

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 1>be hard for viewers because we're always going to compare it.

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Is it an unfortunate way to enter this series to

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 1>compare Apple's Never Falls Fall to Big Little Lives? Because

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I felt a little underwhelmed by this series, unfortunately, And

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it's the comparison that's made me feel

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>like that.

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it could be because I didn't really yes,

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean obviously knowing it's the same author, but I

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 2>didn't really approach it with that lens of thinking, oh,

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to if it's going to be as good

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 2>as Big Little Lies. I thought the casting was great,

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:07.360
<v Speaker 2>with a Benning in the helm, and I think it's

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 2>interesting to see a protagonist sort of on the screen

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 2>that's in her sixties and you know, she hasn't had

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 2>any work done and she's you know, it's a very

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 2>different visual look from Big Little Eyes, where everyone was

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 2>looking absolutely slick and shiny and beautiful and wrinkle free.

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was a much more sort of

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 2>real setting. And I think Sam Neil always nails his characters.

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 2>He's always just got that little air of mystery and

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:38.199
<v Speaker 2>steek around him, but he's very charismatic. So and I

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.439
<v Speaker 2>think the way they sort of go between current time

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 2>and then they're doing the flashbacks and you really get

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 2>to see that playing out.

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 1>I got confused, though, I get so confused. Okay, but

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm stupid, so like you know, like like.

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 2>To me, I just liked that. I like their like, well,

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 2>this is what's happening now, this is kind of what

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 2>was happening then that that is giving you all the

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>little nugget to set up the family relationships and understanding

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.720
<v Speaker 2>where they sit, but in a not so obvious way.

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Also, I'm struggling with it because there are too many

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>flawed characters, Like I just all of these children, I'm like,

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>our assholes and I just don't know. I guess the

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 1>net Benning's the pull through, right. We do like and

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Betting in this show. There's something very warm about her,

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>but you know again, she does some pretty outrageous things

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>in this series. So I don't know, do you like King?

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 2>I thought with the kids, so there's four kids in

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 2>the first episode, I think it almost made it a

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 2>little bit too obvious in that opening scene that they

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 2>were like, this one's the fuck up, this one's the

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 2>successful one, this one's the you know, like this one

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 2>they're hiding lies from her parents. Like it was almost

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 2>a little bit too obvious in that first scene. I

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 2>think they didn't need to paint it that clearly. I

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 2>think we would have got it, do you know what

0:27:58.640 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean?

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Although those children don't look related at all, like did

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>they go to an adoption?

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 2>So the casting was a little bit strange there, I

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 2>agree with, Yeah, you're right, they could have made them

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 2>at least look a little bit more similar.

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>We have to talk about Jake Lacy, So he is

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 1>very famous for being in that first series of whiteloaders.

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 1>He's done a lot of shows. He's doing a lot

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of TV work, which I'm very happy with. I really

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>like him. But I can't work out and why don't

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:23.640
<v Speaker 1>we judge people based on what they look like. I

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 1>just want to know if you think he's hot. I

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>can't work out if I think he's hot.

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's attractive. I wouldn't say like he's an

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 2>attractive bote like he's attractive, but I wouldn't say I'm like,

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, Jack lazy. But I think you have

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 2>a serious crush because I think he's literally brought him

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 2>up to me about five times. So I think you

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 2>do think he's hot. Ben. Yeah.

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>A friend of mine met him while he was filming

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the show and said he was also really lovely. I

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>love that. I love when you hear that these actors

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>from America that come over to Australia and they're down

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to Worth and I think that's great, that's great for him.

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>But I just I feel like I spent most of

0:28:57.960 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the series trying to judge whether or not I found

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>him are active, which is not the point.

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well maybe you missed a few other bits.

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Then what is your guest from watching the first few

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>episodes on what has happened to Joy because I just

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>want to me I feel like she has been murdered

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>by sam Neil. I feel like they're going to lead

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>us all the way to the end with him being

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the red herring, for him to be the bat like

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>we'll be like, no, it's not sam Neil, it's not

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the husband. For them to tell us it's the husband.

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's what are you?

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're setting it up sort of. There's a

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 2>lot of mystery and why is he lying to his

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 2>own children. There's this mystery character Savannah, which would be

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 2>like the obvious one. I think that they've pumped her in.

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 2>She's an outsider. What's her motive? Why is she there?

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Has she got something to do with it? And where

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 2>is she sort of going to head in in regards

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>to the whole series. So they're setting it up like that.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>But it's always it's always some other character. I think

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 2>that's the formula for these who done it. It's always

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>like some side character that you didn't really look at

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 2>too much at the start, and you followed all these

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 2>other trails and then it ends up being I don't know,

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 2>one of the kids or something.

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, is that your guest, like as in I feel

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>like I want you to reveal remember includo when you're

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>a kid used to play and you have to try

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and give a hard guest workout.

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Ben Norris in the drawing room with the Knights. Yeah.

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Always, always.

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm going to say it's one of the kids.

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 2>And I've only watched one and a half episode, so

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be my little tip.

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, that answers my question. Are you going to keep watching?

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, definitely, No, I will definitely keep watching. And I

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 2>think another one sort of I mean it's setting Palm

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Beach as well, so just visually appealing and just something

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 2>that yeah, I just think is a nice watch. It's

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>not I haven't it hard to watch?

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, we've got the sign off because mister McLean as

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>in your dad.

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my dad, Yeah, he watched the whole thing. We're

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 2>leaving with my parents the moment that's really a separate

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 2>podcast and dad smash It, Dad slash It in a weekend.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he watched all seven episodes in one go. We're

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>moving on to which I think is actually my favorite

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>show at the moment, which is high Country, which is

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>out on Binge Foxtail if you do not have Binge

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and Foxtail. We're not sponsored by them, by the way,

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>but they've got a lot of good content, so amazing.

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, look, a detective has transferred has been transferred

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>to a Victorian high country. She's there to investigate a

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>missing person. She uncovers a complex web of murder, deceit

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and revenge. I think it's the answer to Mayor of

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>east I think it's Australia's answer to Meryor of Eastown.

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>You watched the first episode last night. Are you engaged?

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I am that. I had to push myself a little bit,

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know whether that is because I had

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>come from watching Palm Royale and then it was such

0:31:56.520 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>a shift of gears. So I will say it didn't

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 2>haptivate me like Apple's and Palm Royal. However, I will

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 2>watch it again with a bit more I will go

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 2>into it watching it first, this time with a bit

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 2>more of a clear sort of space around it and

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 2>take it for what it is. I think, yeah, you

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>sort of turn on. I'm like, oh, it's an ozzy

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 2>cop drama, middle aged sort of cop drama, and I

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 2>just wasn't instantly loving it. But I will say I

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 2>like what they've done with the casting. I think they're

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 2>tapping into a lot of different areas of what happens

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 2>in the community and those sort of dynamics. I think

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 2>they've got a lot to work with their as a canvas.

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 2>But I do think it was one of those ones

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 2>where it's sort of, yes, things were happening in that

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 2>first episode that were quite dramatic, But overall, I found

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 2>that one was a little bit more of a slower burn,

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>which isn't a bad thing. I think I was just

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>a little bit spoilt for choice on the other ones,

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>where everything was just given to me and it was

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 2>very easy to follow on the first episodes, this one

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 2>was a little bit more. You had to dive a

0:32:59.360 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 2>bit deeper.

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, all these shows that we're talking about are a

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.239
<v Speaker 1>take on a murder mystery, do you know what I mean?

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 2>They're all that's true. We didn't really mean to do that,

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, that's true.

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>We definitely did not mean to do that. But I

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:11.959
<v Speaker 1>mean it is really popular, and I think that has

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot to do with the world's obsession with true

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>crime at the moment. I feel like we all love

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>to put on our little PI investigator hat and watch

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>these shows. I think that's why we're getting so many

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>of them. But it's interesting. This is like a back

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to basic, strict murder mystery like you would see maybe

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>in the eighties and nineties. Like it's a bit Agatha

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Christie in a way where like Palm Royle and Apple's

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Never Fall are jazzed up a little bit, do you

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean?

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, this is this is gritty. I mean, look

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 2>visually that Victorian high country, the hills, the fog, the

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 2>density of it, the mountain, like, it's pretty extraordinary to watch,

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and it does. It's sort of if you look at

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 2>the visual sort of scenes, it does sort of ply

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 2>on that dynamic of exactly what's going to happen in

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 2>the show. It's going to be you're going to have

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 2>to work your way through the trees. There's going to

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 2>be a lot of mountainous territory, and I think that's

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 2>very symbolic. But I think it has legs. But we

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 2>have seen a lot of these Ossie sort of crime

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 2>dramas and I think the US do them so well.

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 2>So it's got a lot to kind of stack up to.

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's created by so many people that made the

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>series Wentworth, which was also on foxtoel Masia Gardner. She

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>is the executive producer I think on this, and she

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.320
<v Speaker 1>was instrumental with all of Wentworth and I loved Wentworth

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like this it fits very nicely into

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the handbag of that series. So like I feel like,

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>if you've watched Wentworth and loved it, you'll love this.

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>It's very similar in the way in which they set

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 1>up the characters, and it is shot. I think it's

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 1>directed by the same director that directed a lot of Wentworth.

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. For me, this is like a nice

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 1>companion piece to that.

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's fair, and I think, look, it's interesting when

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean we're just talking about these other shows that

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 2>have such well known people as the lead characters, and

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 2>then suddenly you put a show on like this and

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of unknown faces and you don't

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 2>sort of have that instant relationship with someone that you've

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 2>seen on other things, like I don't know who this

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 2>actress is the main.

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Lead carriage, You don't know who Liah Pizell is, like, so.

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 2>You know, I haven't watched her in anything. I don't think,

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 2>oh my, have I what she been in?

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean she was in the last like four

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.399
<v Speaker 1>seasons of Wentworth, but I know that you didn't watch web.

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't see that ere I.

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Wonder whether or not this show is going to do

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>that well because Leah is not a bigger name, she's

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>not a recognizable name. I almost wonder whether or not

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 1>this show would feel and look a little bit different

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.879
<v Speaker 1>if we had a bigger star in this role.

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, you mentioned there of Easttown, and that's a perfect

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 2>example of it. So you had that sort of small

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 2>town community crime drama. But you've got Kate Winslet at

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 2>the helm, So I think instantly, I don't know, just you,

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>you sort of go, oh, well, Kate's in it, it must

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 2>be really good. Whereas this one, I think it can

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 2>be good. I'm still going to watch it, but I

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 2>could have easily flicked past it as I was scrolling,

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 2>unless you had told me we're going to talk about this.

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't even look it doesn't even look like.

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't look like anything on the.

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Poster or it's a really big gut, which I think,

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>could you imagine if this series had Naomi Watts back

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>with her Australian accent being this detective, what this show

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>would be because the writing and everything is so amazing

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm obsessed with Thereseel so like for me, it's amazing.

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>But could you imagine what the series would be doing

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 1>if you had a Naomi Watson that role.

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly right. And look, I think Leah is

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.919
<v Speaker 2>brilliant from what I've seen on this phenomenal but it's

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 2>just it is. I guess it's just we do get

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 2>a little bit used to and I guess it's like

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Jodie Foster in the latest series of True Detective, but

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 2>we need to give all these other actors a shot

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 2>for them to get to that level. So it's like

0:36:56.200 --> 0:37:00.720
<v Speaker 2>the Catch twenty two. And would it be the same

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 2>level of vulnerability, grittiness, realness if you had someone like

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Naomi in the role. Maybe not, So I think.

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>It would work with her because I think what worked

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>with Mayor of Eastown with Kate was the subtlety of

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>that performance but still having that star power, still having

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>that you know that when you're at that level, all

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 1>of the nuances are so digestible. Do you know what

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean like you're just hanging off every single thing

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>that they're saying. I just wonder whether or not this

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>show would work a little bit better if it had that.

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I may, I get what you're saying. I think definitely

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 2>from just a promotional point of view, I think you'd

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 2>have more eyes on it, no question. But I really

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 2>hope that the show gets up.

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:43.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure.

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 2>I hope at the moment it's one of the top

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 2>ones because it's just been launched this week as you're scrolling.

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's very easy. If people don't start engaging,

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 2>it just drops further down the list and then it

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:58.720
<v Speaker 2>might get missed. But well, there's so much an interesting

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.240
<v Speaker 2>story and a little bit more of a gritty take

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 2>on what we would see as a sort of regional

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 2>rural community crime series.

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Have you got a guess on who you think the

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>killer might be? Because I mean we've only you and

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.240
<v Speaker 1>I have both only seen episode one, so we've really

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>just had some characters set up. I'm going to go

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 1>with the coffee shop lady revenging her son, That's what

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think I have a guess yet. The

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 2>guy that is, you know, the sort of quiet, kooky

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 2>psyekick that they're sort of trying to pin it on,

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 2>that X CoP's trying to pin the murders on. I

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 2>don't think it's him, but I think he will play

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 2>a very interesting character.

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's the police officer that's retiring, Maybe it's the

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>sheriff or whatever his name, because like he's finished his

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>career and he's just really stressed about what's next, so

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>that he starts just murdering people in the town.

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh charming, and what a great thought about our law enforcement.

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Well are you going to keep watching? That's all we

0:38:58.120 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>need to know is Alana McLean.

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I will watch her, but after episode one it was

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 2>my least favorite. However, completely to my own admission, I

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 2>probably wasn't as engagement because I was watching it a

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 2>little bit later. So I will. I think this is

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 2>one that you know, we talk about this a bit

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:19.439
<v Speaker 2>in regards to whether you watch something all in one

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 2>go or whether you can watch it week by week.

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 2>I think this is one that you will get more

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 2>out of if you set aside a few hours on

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.879
<v Speaker 2>a Sunday afternoon with your popcorn and watch a feel

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 2>in a row.

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>We need to quickly talk about the big shift that's

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>about to happen on freeware television. So we're about to

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 1>lose Meredith First Site, Idol and Survivor. I know that

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you don't watch a lot of Free to Wear, so

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>this is a really interesting question for you about those changes.

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>So Meredith First Site is now going to be Food

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Stars with Gordon Ramsey, and do you know much about

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>that series?

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:53.879
<v Speaker 2>No, tell me about that because I feel like if

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:57.640
<v Speaker 2>that is a new one, I kind of like watching those.

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I kind of enjoy watching something we haven't seen before

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 2>in regards to that, So tell me more about that one.

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 1>It's more like Shark Tank, but for food. So that's

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the way they're Oh okay, and then it has what's

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>her name of Ellis.

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, she's a part of Shark Tank.

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Too, so that's where they're going with this. Seems like

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 1>a really odd choice to me for channel Line to

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>progress from maths into this kind of foody Shark Tank

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 1>world in a reality space. And Gordon Ramsey, to me,

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 1>he's not a drawer card. I don't know. I think

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 1>this could be a this could be a turkey for

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 1>channel Line.

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I like Shark Tank because of the business sort of

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 2>side of it. I'm the marketing and I sort of

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 2>do a lot of that in my sort of nine

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 2>to five job, so I do get something out of that,

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I think. I mean, look, whether you like him or hating,

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 2>that's exactly what Gordon Ramsey the brand and how he's

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:50.959
<v Speaker 2>designed himself to be. So the people that might tune

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 2>in might really like him. The appeal is waiting for

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 2>him to crack and say yeah, I do shit, get

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.720
<v Speaker 2>out like people like that kind of shock value.

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I need that in my life.

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:01.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I want that right now.

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean, like at you, but I

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 2>mean people love food. People are obsessed with it, all

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:11.320
<v Speaker 2>those Master Chef and bake Off and all those shows.

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 2>People do love it. We'll see how it goes.

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Then you've got Austraian Idol, which is on Channel seven

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 1>is going to become Farmer Wants a Wife and Farmer

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Wants a Wife. I have to tell you is a

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:23.360
<v Speaker 1>bit of a guilty pleasure. I've been watching it for

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:25.799
<v Speaker 1>years with my best friend Carrie. We love to watch

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 1>this show and just yell at the TV screen about

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 1>all of the dumb decisions that these women make when

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>it comes to falling in love with a farmer, as

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>if they all want to move to the country. I

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 1>guess some people might. But this season different to last year.

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, being what I've been told from Channel seven

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 1>is it's quite complicated because everyone last year ended up

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>with their farmer, was a love story that it ended well.

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>This year, I think it's going to be a little

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 1>bit massy, you know, which is fine. A question for

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you with this Sam Armitage, what do you think about her?

0:41:58.800 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 2>This year?

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Draw card for you? Are you're going to watch Farmer

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 1>for her?

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.439
<v Speaker 2>Someone told me I look like her the other day.

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Were they drunk?

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 2>No, I quite like Sam.

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Actually, I can see it now, I can see the bit.

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm now looking over it because you're on this big

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 1>monitor over there.

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, what how big?

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 1>It's huge. I'll take a photo and set it to you.

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Be mortified.

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I want to put some makeup on. You told me

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 2>you never used the video.

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm never using. It's for communication purposes only. But you're

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>up on the screen over there, and you look you

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 1>actually just as per usual, just look perfection.

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Holy moly, No, look, I think Farmer wants a wife.

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't even think they originally set out for it

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:39.359
<v Speaker 2>to be, you know, the true love angle that they've

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 2>pushed so hard, but I think they've managed to really

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 2>have that juxtaposition against mass and so the people that

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 2>want to watch that just want it to be chilled viewing.

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.279
<v Speaker 2>They do want to watch a real story. They do

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 2>want to know that people do stay together and have

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 2>kids and move to the farm, and they just want

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 2>that type of viewing. So I think they found their

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:02.839
<v Speaker 2>lane with that. I hope they don't go too dramatic

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.959
<v Speaker 2>and too massy. Otherwise I think they're really at risk

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:09.399
<v Speaker 2>of alienating their core fan base and I don't think

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 2>that will work well for them, So I think they've

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 2>got to be really careful with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I always call Farmer Wants a Wife like the Math's antidote,

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>like as in, you know, after a season of Merit

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 1>at First Sight, it's kind of the series of Finding

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>love that is the opposite of Merit at First Sight,

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 1>And it would be really tempting for these producers to

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:32.240
<v Speaker 1>want to tap into the Meretit first Sight elements because

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.399
<v Speaker 1>of the success of that show, you know what I mean, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think I really think if you start

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 2>pulling it that thread. Everyone that watch to everyone that

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 2>watches Math is watching because they like the drama. Everyone

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 2>that's watching Farma wants a wife does not want that.

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 2>So if you start putting that into that show, I

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:51.720
<v Speaker 2>think that's a recipe for disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I agree. So Channel ten a strand survivor

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 1>will now be I'm a Celebrity. Everyone turns up to

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 1>watch I'm a Celebrity for the first episode to find

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>out who the celebs are. I know you watched this show.

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>You tap into this show.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind this one.

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any guesses on the celebs so far?

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, I saw Britney Hockley's already been announced.

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:14.839
<v Speaker 1>She is she a celebrity? Well?

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:17.879
<v Speaker 2>She, I mean she looks In Australia, we're a little

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 2>bit devoid of those big celebs, but I think she does.

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 2>She's very successful. She's got her very successful podcast, she

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 2>does radio, and we've seen her in The Bachelor, which

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 2>was obviously a reality franchise back in the day. So

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 2>she's managed to really cultivated career outside of that. So

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 2>I think she's quite a likable personality and I think

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 2>she'll be a good addition. I haven't really put my

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:41.240
<v Speaker 2>detective cap on.

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Which is very unlike you normally you're like the.

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Other clues, Give me one of the other clues, and

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I'll I can just put a couple of names out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone who was on Big someone who was on Big Brother. Hi,

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>you live from the Jungle. Yeah, No, someone who's a

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 1>mega influencer now, someone who turned their reality TV fame

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 1>into influencing Blonde from the Gold Coast, fake boobs, really stupid?

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Just Capella? Oh no, she was on Mass It.

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Was Mass Sky Wheatley.

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay. I mean this is a thing though. I

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:20.320
<v Speaker 2>think sometimes they put people in there and you're like who,

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 2>But it's more about then you learn. You actually learn

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:26.439
<v Speaker 2>more about them when they're in there, so they sort

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 2>of have the names that you recognize. Then they have

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.879
<v Speaker 2>the fillers that you like who. But quite often they're

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 2>the people that deliver the most nuggets, potentially because they've

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 2>got less to lose.

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 1>The other one that I'm gonna I'm not going to

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 1>say this person's name because it'll give it away, but

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 1>someone I know quite well that's an unusual character in

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 1>my backstory, is going into the jungle. Do you have

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>a guess on who that might be. Ronda Berchellt. Yeah,

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:53.720
<v Speaker 1>she was my babysitter. No, I'm only kidding.

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.919
<v Speaker 2>No, I quite like I'm a celeb. Get me out

0:45:56.920 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 2>of here. Look, even if you're not avidly watching, I'm

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 2>very interested to see Robert Irwin as a host. I

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:05.720
<v Speaker 2>will say that I think that's kind of a really

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 2>unique pairing having here with Julia Morris. And look, hats

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.320
<v Speaker 2>off to the network for saying, no, we're keeping Julia.

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 2>We're going to put her with this, you know, younger

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 2>fresher host who's like been Australia's son in a way,

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:21.959
<v Speaker 2>and we're just going to see how it goes. Because

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 2>they could have easily got rid of Julia and put someone,

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 2>you know with Robert Irwin who was younger as well,

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 2>and maybe fresher and all of that sort of stuff.

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:32.719
<v Speaker 2>But I think I think it'll work really well. I

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:36.960
<v Speaker 2>think it'll be surprising and that'll add another layer to it.

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:38.880
<v Speaker 2>But I think this is one where you can just

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 2>follow along on the social media, watch all the clips

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:45.760
<v Speaker 2>and get the get the sort of goth and watching

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:48.759
<v Speaker 2>it moment to deliver it on socials without having to

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 2>necessarily watch it every single night.

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 1>That's you on LL shows these days. Actually that's the

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>next generation. Like everyone's like, did you watch the next

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 1>season of the last year's season of I'm a Celebrity?

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Get Me out of Here? And people go, yes, but

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>they only watched it on TikTok, you know what I mean?

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Like they it's an interesting world that we've found ourselves

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 1>in the way that I'll finish this chat with, I'm aslab.

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Does this show rely on the celebs needing to be famous?

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that the audience that want to watch

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:17.880
<v Speaker 1>this and love this show care about the level of

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>fame of these celabs. I think they do in a sense.

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I think if you started off with all nobodies and

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 2>it was just it was almost like a big brother

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:30.800
<v Speaker 2>of just random Australian people. But in a jungle setting,

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 2>you want to see the layers come off, you want

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:35.399
<v Speaker 2>to see the makeup come off. You want to see

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 2>them without their caffeine. You're waiting for a Naki moment.

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 2>You want the lacious stories from their career and back

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 2>in the day. You are tuning in for a lot

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 2>of that. I think it works when you've got the

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 2>pairing of the less famous celebrities who are giving you

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 2>a bit more goths, I guess in regards to their

0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 2>own background and career because they don't have as many

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:56.720
<v Speaker 2>things to be hiding.

0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Well. Their jobs to ask the more famous people questions

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 1>about that care, do you know what I mean? Like

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're a Sky Wheatley and you've been

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 1>on one series of Big Brother and had your boobs

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 1>out on Instagram for ten years, I think your job

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>is to then ask the more recognizable people, you know,

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:15.839
<v Speaker 1>who is the worst, who is your worst co star?

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:18.880
<v Speaker 1>You know what happened with the divorce? And then also

0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 1>we care about these celebrities talking about hot topics, like

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I want them to talk about what they thinks happened

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>with Kate Middleton, you know what I mean? Like you know, yeah,

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you're right, yeah, Like get them to talk about the

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 1>hot topics, because we do care about what those uber

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 1>famous people or more famous wreck or recognizable people have

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 1>to say about some of those things.

0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I agree, and that that is where the appeal is

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's where the show has that longevity

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 2>on social media and in the mainstream press because of

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 2>those are the stories that get that get picked up

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 2>blah blah said these about Trump, you know, like that's

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 2>what's going to get about.

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what it is. Alana. I just want to say,

0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I am obsessed with you. I am so excited every

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 1>single time to talk to you. I actually feel and

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:04.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to say this, I feel like the

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:08.359
<v Speaker 1>most myself and the most relaxed when I'm talking to you.

0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>And so the idea that we have a podcast where

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 1>we get to just have a diatribe like this is

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 1>my heaven and I'm obsessed with you.

0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. I just love doing this so much.

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.799
<v Speaker 2>And I'm really really glad that people are tuning in

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.319
<v Speaker 2>and want to be part of the conversation. And I

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:27.480
<v Speaker 2>hope that we can grow that and I hope that

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 2>we can get some engagement happening online and the conversation

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:33.839
<v Speaker 2>going two ways. And if you've got a recommendation of

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:35.959
<v Speaker 2>something that we should watch and maybe we can cover

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.800
<v Speaker 2>for the next episode, or you want to give your thoughts,

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, it would be great to have that sort

0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 2>of conversation going with the listeners as well. But I

0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:47.720
<v Speaker 2>really love coming on here and there's so much media

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:49.759
<v Speaker 2>and so much out there and be able to do

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 2>a little deep dive on a few of those. It's

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 2>really fabulous. I love it.

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 1>This is a message Hi Ben, thanks for your chat

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>with Anaconda amazing. This is Luke's by the way. I

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 1>hope he doesn't mind that I'm shouting out to him.

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:05.760
<v Speaker 1>That was a really good chat just binge population eleven,

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>which was another chat I did last week for people listening.

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Go back and listen to that chat. That was amazing.

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 1>But then he says, are you going to be doing

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:15.359
<v Speaker 1>more episodes of What to Watch with Alana McLean? When

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:16.560
<v Speaker 1>is it coming out? Ah?

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. Well here's one signe feal delive, enjoy, happy listening,

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and can't wait to do it all again.