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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, minister.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: Now, Minister, there is a lot that I'm keen to

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know that sounds like a shocking story, horrific story,

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Speaker 1: And look I know that you aren't the Minister for Police.

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Speaker 3: So, under the negotiations currently are out for teachers and

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Speaker 2: So was there an increase in anyway education than ever?

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Speaker 3: So that those decisions were made by the Education Department,

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Speaker 3: one thousand dollars has already gone into school budgets. Five

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Speaker 1: We are going to have to move along because there

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Speaker 3: So we're at the stage of consultation. So as you said,

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Speaker 1: Now, speaking of another development or another area where the

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Speaker 3: Well, this, this is the actual opportunity for those groups

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Speaker 2: And so will it be a petrochemical hub?

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Speaker 1: Hey, minister, a quick question that we've had from our

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Speaker 2: I tell you what.

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Speaker 1: We have had so many messages about those throughout this week.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad people are observant because I was the same

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, do we know how much they're going to

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Speaker 3: I haven't. I think somebody did tell me, Katie, but

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Speaker 1: Hey minister, A very quick question, and this is something

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Speaker 1: Well, Minister, for just about everything this morning. We appreciate

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Speaker 3: We actually, though I can mention I did hear Jared

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Speaker 2: And so is that why it's not going to be

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Speaker 3: It's part of the equation. But I mean the other

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Speaker 1: So, but at the end of the day, that Howard

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Speaker 3: It's just isn't feasible. You know, there would need to

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Speaker 3: There are considerable and we did look into all of this.

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Speaker 1: Well, Minister, we certainly appreciate your time this morning. Thank

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Speaker 1: of different topics.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thanks very much.

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Speaker 1: That is the Minister, also the Treasurer, Education Minister, Minister

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Speaker 1: for Infrastructure, Planning and Logistics.

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Speaker 2: Quite a few portfolios.

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Speaker 1: If you'd like to get in contact with me this morning,

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Speaker 1: that number to text through is zero four, double nine seven,

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Speaker 1: double one three six zero. We are going to have

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Speaker 1: to go to a break and get to the National

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Speaker 1: news