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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four nine. It

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Speaker 1: is just sixteen minutes away from ten o'clock. Now you

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Speaker 1: may have seen or heard that the City of Darwin

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Speaker 1: is moving to beef up CBD safety on the back

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Speaker 1: of daily complaints about anti social behavior. So apparently there

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Speaker 1: was a meeting held with council determining whether there could

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Speaker 1: be a police space in the city. I think the

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Speaker 1: council is even prepared to offer up some free space

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Speaker 1: for the police. Joining me in the studio right now

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Speaker 1: is the Lord Mayor of Darwin convat scarlets. Good morning conn.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and yes you're absolutely right, I wan

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Speaker 2: say the council is offering a free office pace to

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Speaker 2: the police in the Westland Arcade to establish a police bit.

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Speaker 2: Now people will say, is it the first time, No,

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Speaker 2: it's not. We had one in kazurin our shopping square

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Speaker 2: many years ago that was proven to be very very

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Speaker 2: successful and that was actually taken out because the new

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Speaker 2: Kazuna police station were built. So now we've got people

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Speaker 2: asking for more police presence on the streets. The funny

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Speaker 2: thing is Kerns have the same problem that we have.

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Speaker 2: Kirns Town Council offered the police an office in Central

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Speaker 2: Kirns and the Queensland Police accepted it. So we said,

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Speaker 2: we're going to do exactly the same. We're offering us

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Speaker 2: free space, no rent, totally free to the police office

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Speaker 2: space in West Lenardcade.

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Speaker 1: So just let me get this straight. So the council

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Speaker 1: meeting has already happened and the councilors agreed.

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Speaker 2: To it unanimously agree to offer a police space to the police.

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Speaker 1: And have you had any discussions with the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: Police at this point.

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Speaker 2: We'll be sending a letter officially offering them to the

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Speaker 2: accommodation for rent free and ask them to establish a

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Speaker 2: presence in them all.

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Speaker 1: And why do you reckon this would help? Because I

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Speaker 1: guess you and I have spoken on so many occasions

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Speaker 1: about the anti social behavior issues. We don't need to

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Speaker 1: relive them. But why do you reckon having a police

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Speaker 1: presence in the CBD when they've already got one at

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Speaker 2: The police does a tremendous job, especially the people of

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Speaker 2: the ground. The only problem is people on the ground

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Speaker 2: are not too many. When you've got one police card

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Speaker 2: between Casarina and Dao and one in parmers on obvious

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Speaker 2: this problem. I understand they've got problems with leave and

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Speaker 2: sickness and things, but at the same time there are

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Speaker 2: problems out in the city. We spoke at nauseum about it.

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Speaker 2: People stop ministry and says can we do something about it?

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Speaker 2: What I said the police here we are. I know

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Speaker 2: you're a police stationed in Nake Street yep, but there

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Speaker 2: aren't many police coming out or there. So how about

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Speaker 2: you establish a presence in the mall. Very easy to

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Speaker 2: come out if there's a call, you just walk out

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Speaker 2: and there's a there's an issue. You told us you're

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Speaker 2: going to have the sad ways. I've seen them a

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Speaker 2: cy them ones they don't see them for many, many days.

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Speaker 2: So here you are, I'll give you a police presence,

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Speaker 2: a possibility of a presence in the mall. You don't

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Speaker 2: have to have twenty policemen. You can only have two

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Speaker 1: CBD Connor, I guess the issue here is going to

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Speaker 1: be and we heard it from the Police Association survey this.

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Speaker 1: You know the police don't feel as so there's enough

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Speaker 1: of them to be out to do their job. So

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Speaker 1: where are we going to get the officers.

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Speaker 2: From the sixteen hundreds of them? Kid, we had eight

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Speaker 2: hundred sixteen two thousand and one, and they had police

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Speaker 2: patrols and bike patrols throughout the city. Now sixteen hundred

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Speaker 2: and twice as many. Now, obviously it's something there is

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Speaker 2: not right. I don't know our locational resources rostering and

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Speaker 2: things like that, something that probably the police is to

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Speaker 2: look at it. I said to you before, I'm not

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Speaker 2: a campaigning against the police. I want to help the police,

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Speaker 2: and I want to help the police to do their job.

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Speaker 2: Probably that's why we offer them this office in.

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Speaker 1: The model con how much would it cost the council

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Speaker 2: Councils prepared to for go twenty thousand dollars a year

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Speaker 2: that would probably get as a rent or a bit

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Speaker 1: Presence of the street, and do you reckon that this

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Speaker 2: Well, if it makes a difference in Kern, if it

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Speaker 1: What about somewhere like Casuarina that's obviously experiencing really bad

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Speaker 2: Well, I spoke to the new orance of Casino Shobe

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Speaker 2: They like the idea. Now, if they want to actually

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Speaker 2: it's up to them to do so. I'm offering free

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Speaker 2: are furious with what's happening in their suburb. I sympathize

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Speaker 2: your rangers do it. Well, the rangers are rangers. They're

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Speaker 2: not policemen.

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Speaker 1: They have no.

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Speaker 2: Power to arrest, to move to tip water out. They

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Speaker 2: attack somebody, but certainly when it comes down to undisort

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Speaker 2: not the rangers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if the pla these aren't prepared to come

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Speaker 1: could you potentially still have some ranges that are there

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Speaker 1: that there's a council presence right there in the city

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Speaker 1: or even Larokie Nation.

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Speaker 2: Our rangers are there every morning from six thirt in

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Speaker 2: the people that slip rough our ranges and the mall.

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Speaker 2: I've sent them myself talking to people just talking because

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Speaker 2: they were not doing anything they're sitting around. Was really good,

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Speaker 2: situation getting out of hand. Let's again say that Larokia

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Speaker 2: Nation is not police Larkie Leasons they are not, and

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Speaker 2: none the indigenous police officers there are people are helping

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Speaker 2: the police to actually move people that are drunk or

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Speaker 2: people that prepare to be assisted.

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Speaker 1: So CONN in addition to this, you still want to

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Speaker 1: see that two kilometer radius law reenacted as well when

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the Chief the Chievemneys tell me that actually

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Speaker 2: the law still exists. I would like to see that one.

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Speaker 2: But also I would like to see make an offense

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Speaker 2: bridging bail again because currently it's been not there and

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Speaker 2: that's why you see all these young kids with bracelets

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Speaker 2: in their anklets in their uncles running around doing stupid things.

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Speaker 1: Son. Look, there'll be some people listening this morning thinking

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Speaker 1: you're the Lord Mayor, you're not the Commissioner of Police.

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Speaker 1: You know, why are you going down this path? And

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Speaker 1: you know why are you? Are you sort of offering

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Speaker 2: Why are you I'm the Lord Mayor. I listen to

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Speaker 2: what people have to say, But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: I'm not there winsing all the time. I'm offering solutions

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Speaker 2: the same way I talk about the ti kilometer low,

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Speaker 2: the same way I said to the Chief Minister, bring

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Speaker 2: back offense if you breach bail, that's a solution I offer.

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Speaker 2: I even spoke to you about rijik the bad drinkers

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Speaker 2: register to find out who is doing And secondly, supply

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Speaker 2: you can do that one. Now I know that the

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Speaker 2: the things we're talking here. They listen to it, and

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Speaker 2: some people have in the fifth floor decided, well that

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Speaker 2: might be a good idea. Let's explore it. And I

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Speaker 2: asked for the Chief minutes we have a meeting with

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Speaker 2: all the presidents and mayors of the Northern Territory. And

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Speaker 2: it happened, and she We'll meet again and again and again.

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Speaker 2: So people take notice when we make a lot of noise,

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Speaker 2: and I will continue to make a lot of note well.

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Speaker 1: And I think the point is that you know, the

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Speaker 1: public are making a lot of noise as well. People

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Speaker 1: are well and truly over it. They don't want the

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Speaker 1: kind of behavior that we've seen on the top end

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Speaker 1: kind of behavior. It hasn't impact in so many different ways,

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Speaker 1: particularly when you're talking about, you know, getting people to

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Speaker 1: move to the Northern Territory, when you're talking about tourism

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Speaker 1: like we were just a few moments.

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Speaker 2: Ago, one of spending millions to attract tourists. When you

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Speaker 2: get the situation in the street that you'd be embarrassed

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Speaker 1: Dara con can I ask you just on that very briefly,

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Speaker 1: what are the next steps now? So you're going to

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Speaker 1: be writing to the Northern Territory Police offering up this space, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Pretty sure that the listening to it, they're expecting a

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Speaker 1: Well, let us know how things go. Hey, am I

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Speaker 1: When it comes to the Casualina swimming pool, well, ten.

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Speaker 2: Thirty tonight I'm going to announce the winning tender. Who

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Speaker 2: is going to construct it?

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Speaker 1: Ten thirty tonight today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, not tonight. Sorry, don't line up in

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Speaker 2: Casorina ten thirty to night. It wouldn't be nobody there.

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Speaker 2: But the thing it took so long is because under

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Speaker 2: the legislation we have to follow a certain process ministers,

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Speaker 2: we have to sign certain things. We have to go

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Speaker 2: out and borrow the money, I think very much. Also

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Speaker 2: seven and a half million to it and certainly looks

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Speaker 2: invited to be there today. So everything is happening and

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Speaker 2: today will be the beginning of a year work for

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Speaker 2: twenty five million dollars Casuarina facility like not what you've

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Speaker 2: seen now, like a modern facility with a fifty meter pool,

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Speaker 2: twenty five minute pool, a resolve style pool, half court, basketball,

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Speaker 2: open spaces, buildings that they can be used by the

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Speaker 2: private business to establish a gym or allied health, phisio

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Speaker 2: therapy and other things. So it's going to be a big,

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Speaker 2: massive project in the northern suburb.

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Speaker 1: Ten thirty you're announcing that, why not just tell us now?

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Speaker 2: Well I can, but I said ten thirty and friend

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Speaker 2: will keep Okay, Calicos Construction is going to actually do

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Speaker 2: the construction. And we had four tenders, one Withdrew. We

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Speaker 2: look carefully to all three of them. We decided we're

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Speaker 2: not going to spend any more money. Two the five

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Speaker 2: million dollars. It's the cut off point, and we will

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Speaker 2: deliver the five million dollar project.

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Speaker 1: And so that I've come in based when it comes

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Speaker 1: to that tender process. So I'm told because we don't

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Speaker 1: elected members don't take part in the allocation of tenders,

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Speaker 1: have to be done all by officers.

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Speaker 2: We will do that one. And they've done that job

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Speaker 2: and they offered came to counsel the putting before counciled

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Speaker 2: elected members decide.

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Speaker 1: How quickly is that we're going to get under why?

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Speaker 2: I think they're probably already working on it because we

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Speaker 2: had we had to talk to them before. I think

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Speaker 2: very very soon they will start constry.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I know that the pool out there

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Speaker 1: in Palmerston as well. They've started construction out there, So

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Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see thirty.

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Speaker 2: Of September the summing pool in Casuna will close.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the thirtieth of September it's going to close.

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Speaker 1: And have there been sort of arrangements made with those

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Speaker 1: regular pool users to be able to use.

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Speaker 2: And Snightcliff can accommodate these people that we met a

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Speaker 2: regional with the YMCA and people make bookings. So look,

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Speaker 2: the reality is you can't do something if you don't

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Speaker 2: close it. There's no way you can close it on sections.

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Speaker 2: He here's to close completely and in order to reconstruct it.

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Speaker 2: And I know it's going to be inconvenient for a year,

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Speaker 2: But wait till you see what would deliver.

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Speaker 1: Conn I'll tell you what you've said. The text line

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Speaker 1: a light with the discussion about having a police be

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Speaker 1: in the mall. Some people very supportive of it, saying

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Speaker 1: that you know, it's a joke. At the moment there's

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Speaker 1: people smoking, drinking, doing all sorts of things, so they're saying, yes,

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Speaker 1: it is a good thing. Others saying, you know, where

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Speaker 1: are they actually going to go? Rod had called through

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Speaker 1: and said where do you want people to go after

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Speaker 1: they are arrested? He said, you know, the jail is

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Speaker 1: already basically full, so where are they going to go

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Speaker 1: once they're arrest Excuse me.

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Speaker 2: If the people go to prison if they commit a crime,

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Speaker 2: but if they are the social behavior the police is there,

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Speaker 2: the same people will not do the stupid things they

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Speaker 2: do when the police is not there. And if we're

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Speaker 2: noticed in the past, police presence discourages people doing stupid things.

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Speaker 2: Nobody talks about sending people to prison. Only people go

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Speaker 2: to prison of the committed serious crime. People are actually

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Speaker 2: doing stupid things like running a muck or running naked

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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 1: Well. Russell's message through he said, good morning, good on

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Speaker 1: you con at least you're trying something. I really hope

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Speaker 1: they take it up. So lots of messages coming through

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Speaker 1: we will keep talking about that tells.

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Speaker 2: You that people there had enough simple as that. I

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Speaker 2: know some people who says, oh where are they going

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Speaker 2: to go? First of all, if you go to if

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Speaker 2: I go to a community like Naala boy and I

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Speaker 2: don't behave, I've been told off and they have the

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Speaker 2: power to tell not to come back again. Now I

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Speaker 2: expect people when they come here to behave. I don't

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Speaker 2: want people naked in the streets. I don't want people

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Speaker 2: to smash windows because they had too much a drink.

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Speaker 2: I don't want people abusing their wives the middle of

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Speaker 2: the street because they're drunk. I don't want people to

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Speaker 2: actually drag their kids around because they just felt like

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Speaker 2: it's part of time to go to Darwin. And I

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Speaker 2: don't want people from Victoria or New South Wales come

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Speaker 2: down to Mitchell Street behave like idiots because they have

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Speaker 2: too much drink. If police is there, it's not good

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Speaker 2: to happen.

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Speaker 1: Well Convat Scarlus, the Lord Mayor of Darwin, it's always

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Speaker 1: good to catch up with you. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: For your time this morning. It is just a few

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Speaker 1: minutes away from ten o'clock.